Title: FFT the Holy Armada
Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 04, 2009, 11:30:12 am
Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 04, 2009, 11:30:12 am
Takes place in Bervenia Free city, in Zeltennia.
a 16-year-old boy named Torren Lenando (ラナンドゥ トーレン) a member of the Church's Paramilitary group "The Holy Armada", under the command of Cardinal Alphons Draclau. Torren's friends and Squad members consist of Isabella, an Archer; Tuckert, a former Nanten Knight; Gaston, a young Priest; and Radcliff, Torren's best friend.
The Holy Armada had existed for 3 years by the time the Death Corps had engaged the Hokuten. By that time, they had seized the Leo, Pisces, and Aries Holy stones. Lenando and his squad were given the task of tracking down the stone to Zeltennia (after meeting several people along the way in Limberry Castle and Zarghidas Trade City) where an informant brought them to the slums where an underground Organization was working.
Lenando and Radcliff had gone in to reach a deal with the group called "Righteous Eagles". 20,000 Gil for the stone they had found, Gemini. The Leader of Righteous Eagle, Corella Lestrang, refused the offer saying "it had powers to take over an entire country and was worth much more than 20,000 gil." She demanded 100,000.
Lenando had said it was too much that the Church couldn't offer, and Lestrang decided to take the 20,000 gil he had with him and organize another deal.
Being pulled into battle, the others join in and defeat Lestrang, but when reinforcements arrive, they're all taken prisoner and sent to Lestrang's HQ in Goug so that she can orchestrate another deal. Lenando, in anger, stages an escape and upon his way out of her Fort, Lestrang arrives with her guards. Lenando fights her one on one while the others stop her guards.
With Lestrang's death, several important plots are put into motion. With Lestrang and the Righteous Eagles out of power, common farmers and the Noble Nanten have no evening ground starting a food riot. Meanwhile, Lestrang's absence in Lionel elevates the Church to complete control of the territory.
However, after Lenando discovers the power of the stones in his mission of retrieving the Aquarius Holy stone. He deffects from the organization in shame an fear, and is marked as the Holy Armada's prime suspect. The only one to join him after leaving, was Radcliff. With Lenando gone from the seat of leading the Armada in Lionel, Cardinal Draclau is forced to hire the Bart Company to retrieve the Taurus Holy stone.
That's basically the first chapter, and if anyone has any ideas they want to add or anything let me now. I kinda thought it up on the spot, but I think its pretty good for an initial idea.
What do you guys think?
a 16-year-old boy named Torren Lenando (ラナンドゥ トーレン) a member of the Church's Paramilitary group "The Holy Armada", under the command of Cardinal Alphons Draclau. Torren's friends and Squad members consist of Isabella, an Archer; Tuckert, a former Nanten Knight; Gaston, a young Priest; and Radcliff, Torren's best friend.
The Holy Armada had existed for 3 years by the time the Death Corps had engaged the Hokuten. By that time, they had seized the Leo, Pisces, and Aries Holy stones. Lenando and his squad were given the task of tracking down the stone to Zeltennia (after meeting several people along the way in Limberry Castle and Zarghidas Trade City) where an informant brought them to the slums where an underground Organization was working.
Lenando and Radcliff had gone in to reach a deal with the group called "Righteous Eagles". 20,000 Gil for the stone they had found, Gemini. The Leader of Righteous Eagle, Corella Lestrang, refused the offer saying "it had powers to take over an entire country and was worth much more than 20,000 gil." She demanded 100,000.
Lenando had said it was too much that the Church couldn't offer, and Lestrang decided to take the 20,000 gil he had with him and organize another deal.
Being pulled into battle, the others join in and defeat Lestrang, but when reinforcements arrive, they're all taken prisoner and sent to Lestrang's HQ in Goug so that she can orchestrate another deal. Lenando, in anger, stages an escape and upon his way out of her Fort, Lestrang arrives with her guards. Lenando fights her one on one while the others stop her guards.
With Lestrang's death, several important plots are put into motion. With Lestrang and the Righteous Eagles out of power, common farmers and the Noble Nanten have no evening ground starting a food riot. Meanwhile, Lestrang's absence in Lionel elevates the Church to complete control of the territory.
However, after Lenando discovers the power of the stones in his mission of retrieving the Aquarius Holy stone. He deffects from the organization in shame an fear, and is marked as the Holy Armada's prime suspect. The only one to join him after leaving, was Radcliff. With Lenando gone from the seat of leading the Armada in Lionel, Cardinal Draclau is forced to hire the Bart Company to retrieve the Taurus Holy stone.
That's basically the first chapter, and if anyone has any ideas they want to add or anything let me now. I kinda thought it up on the spot, but I think its pretty good for an initial idea.
What do you guys think?
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Post by: AngrySurprisedFace on February 04, 2009, 05:03:26 pm
Post by: AngrySurprisedFace on February 04, 2009, 05:03:26 pm
I really like the story.
But you haven't listed possible sprites, new spells, new monsters/characters/ changes you would make/add to the game.
But you haven't listed possible sprites, new spells, new monsters/characters/ changes you would make/add to the game.
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Post by: Llednar on February 04, 2009, 05:31:11 pm
Post by: Llednar on February 04, 2009, 05:31:11 pm
Another issue is that you call it an "armada", but an armada classically has ships (or I suppose for Final Fantasy, Airships) so...
but otherwise excellent.
but otherwise excellent.
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Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 04, 2009, 10:17:10 pm
Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 04, 2009, 10:17:10 pm
when I was about 12, I wanted to to write a sequel to FFT and learned that an Armada was linked to ships, but I figured it was okay for the story. Not to mention the name has a ring to it.
My purpose of this post/topic was the storyline. The first post, that it is. I should gradually work on the sprites and such.
Would anyone like to help with this project?
My purpose of this post/topic was the storyline. The first post, that it is. I should gradually work on the sprites and such.
Would anyone like to help with this project?
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Post by: Llednar on February 04, 2009, 10:32:48 pm
Post by: Llednar on February 04, 2009, 10:32:48 pm
I would but so far I am mostly incompetent at coding and won't even discuss my lack of talent in the sprite department. But I do think it is a good idea. You may want to make them part of lionel's navy or something, or people will get angry and demand to know why...
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Post by: Zalge on February 04, 2009, 10:34:55 pm
Post by: Zalge on February 04, 2009, 10:34:55 pm
Read the stickies. You seem about as naive as I was. I'm making a sequel as well, check out my thread.
http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtop ... sc&start=0 (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1439&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)
But, other then that, your story sounds good... except, how do they escape the prison without weapons?
http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtop ... sc&start=0 (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1439&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)
But, other then that, your story sounds good... except, how do they escape the prison without weapons?
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Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 04, 2009, 10:37:25 pm
Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 04, 2009, 10:37:25 pm
Lionel's navy? That's not a bad idea. Infact, I've got something.
Since the Holy Armada is never mentioned in the actual storyline, they're a small department of the Lionel Navy called the Holy Armada and acting as a sort of Church Marine corps. They're actually a group under direct command of the Shrine Knight's under Vormav.
It seems pretty logical to me...
About the sprites and actual editing of the storyline. I dont know to do it, and I dont think my computer can do it. So, if anyone would like to help in that department... I'd be grateful. I'm just the writer.
Since the Holy Armada is never mentioned in the actual storyline, they're a small department of the Lionel Navy called the Holy Armada and acting as a sort of Church Marine corps. They're actually a group under direct command of the Shrine Knight's under Vormav.
It seems pretty logical to me...
About the sprites and actual editing of the storyline. I dont know to do it, and I dont think my computer can do it. So, if anyone would like to help in that department... I'd be grateful. I'm just the writer.
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Post by: Llednar on February 04, 2009, 10:54:47 pm
Post by: Llednar on February 04, 2009, 10:54:47 pm
hmm...maybe our stories could work together a bit becuase I also have a story based on the Knights Templar (FFT: WOTL) or Shrine Knights as they are called in FFT
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Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 04, 2009, 11:06:44 pm
Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 04, 2009, 11:06:44 pm
well what exactly is your story about?
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Post by: Llednar on February 04, 2009, 11:17:05 pm
Post by: Llednar on February 04, 2009, 11:17:05 pm
Mine is a side story involving other parties in the knights templar that attempt to compete with folmarv to lead the Knights Templar. Two guys whom are friends rise in rank and, during the events in Final Fantasy Tactics, attain the same rank as Folmarv does (marshal of the Templars). About when delita kidnapped ovelia did Folmarv assassinate (no evidence) the former Grand Master and take the position upon himself. But the main character and his friend are the same rank as he is, so, though he becomes the official grand master, all three have about the same influence in the templarate. Anyway the friend (now rival) whom is not the main character starts dabbling in forbidden magic. The main character starts investigating him. Folmarv is killed. The two former friends are now bitter enemies trying to become leaders in the Knights Templarate. The main character ambushes his rival in his fortress, preventing outcry by showing his evidence of forbidden magic, and confronts him. The rival escapes to finish his ritual. The main character pursues him, but finds the rival and sorcerors assisting him slain by the "demon of the future" they tried to raise so they could have unlimited power. The demon of the future I was planning to be Llednar from FFTA (since he is a demon pretty much). They defeat and dispel Llednar. After that the main character, now the Grand Master of the Templar, Slowly starts to demilitarize the Templarate so they can help rebuild after the Lion Wars.
That is my idea in a nutshell.
That is my idea in a nutshell.
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Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 04, 2009, 11:41:18 pm
Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 04, 2009, 11:41:18 pm
Well my story in a nutshell is basically, throughout Chapter one the main character Torren Lenando (Balmafula's younger brother) heads a squad of the Holy Armada in tracking down a Holy stone (described to them as an artifact belonging to the Church). They retrieve it and defeat a criminal syndicate by the end of the first chapter.
In the second chapter, Lenando and his squad are given another mission, and upon tracking the Holy stone to Goland Mining town, they discover that the stone is of the Lucavi. Lenando and his best friend, Radcliff, resign from the Armada and are labeled as Heretics after pleading their discovery to the other members of their group. By the time the Princess is captured, Lenando and Radcliff go to Lionel to talk to the Cardinal.
They're stopped in Dorter, and Zaland along the way by their former partner, Tuckert. He's killed in their second encounter. Once they reach Lionel Castle, they use Tuckert's documents and get in. They find out that the Princess is in their custody and manage to free Agrias. Meanwhile they escape back to Zaland, luring away half of Draclau's troops.
Once Ramza and his group make their attack on Lionel, Draclau's main force is occupied in Zaland in an intricate trap lead by Isabella, Lenando and the others.
That's basically the first two chapters. I just thought of this story today, so I haven't gotten to Chapter 3 and 4 yet
In the second chapter, Lenando and his squad are given another mission, and upon tracking the Holy stone to Goland Mining town, they discover that the stone is of the Lucavi. Lenando and his best friend, Radcliff, resign from the Armada and are labeled as Heretics after pleading their discovery to the other members of their group. By the time the Princess is captured, Lenando and Radcliff go to Lionel to talk to the Cardinal.
They're stopped in Dorter, and Zaland along the way by their former partner, Tuckert. He's killed in their second encounter. Once they reach Lionel Castle, they use Tuckert's documents and get in. They find out that the Princess is in their custody and manage to free Agrias. Meanwhile they escape back to Zaland, luring away half of Draclau's troops.
Once Ramza and his group make their attack on Lionel, Draclau's main force is occupied in Zaland in an intricate trap lead by Isabella, Lenando and the others.
That's basically the first two chapters. I just thought of this story today, so I haven't gotten to Chapter 3 and 4 yet
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Post by: Llednar on February 04, 2009, 11:47:09 pm
Post by: Llednar on February 04, 2009, 11:47:09 pm
I thought up the general plot for my story, but not the specifics. Maybe not an actual in game meeting, but maybe "oh remember marshal so-and-so's orders!". You can think up a name if you want to...I'm terrible with names...Or perhaps my main character and his retinue pass by your guys while they are talking...real innocent like :p
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Post by: LastingDawn on February 05, 2009, 12:38:16 am
Post by: LastingDawn on February 05, 2009, 12:38:16 am
Quite nice Izlude! That's a well thought out plot. Interesting character's to be sure. But I noticed you mentioned the Leo stone, from the way the game makes it seem that Vormav had possession of the stone for quite some time, could be wrong though. So it takes place three years before the game starts then?
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Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 05, 2009, 01:21:53 am
Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 05, 2009, 01:21:53 am
3 years before?
I actually have it taking place at the same pace as the original game. Ofcourse, if the Leo stone is already in Vormav's possession, there are others that I can write into its place.
I'd be glad to intertwine my story with yours however, Llednar, and maybe even yours too Lastingdawn
I actually have it taking place at the same pace as the original game. Ofcourse, if the Leo stone is already in Vormav's possession, there are others that I can write into its place.
I'd be glad to intertwine my story with yours however, Llednar, and maybe even yours too Lastingdawn
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Post by: Llednar on February 05, 2009, 03:45:40 pm
Post by: Llednar on February 05, 2009, 03:45:40 pm
Hmm, well I am not even near starting my own story so you won't have to go around much. I will leave whatever references you want to make to my game up to you, and I will make sure to try and keep with your story as well.
But again, I know almost nothing about making the game yet, so it will be a long while before I go out of basic game editing and dowloading patches.
But again, I know almost nothing about making the game yet, so it will be a long while before I go out of basic game editing and dowloading patches.
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Post by: ShadowX on February 05, 2009, 04:04:25 pm
Post by: ShadowX on February 05, 2009, 04:04:25 pm
Interesting idea Izlude. Being new here myself I'd actually like to help to get a little more experience with this stuff. If you would like I can offer my services in class and skill changes. I'm working on learning sprites so I won't be much help with that until I can actually make a few good sprites.
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Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 05, 2009, 05:43:10 pm
Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 05, 2009, 05:43:10 pm
thank you ShadowX, and you too Llednar. I guess we'll all be working together in a way....
Do you have any suggestions, Shadow? like job classes or skills or anything?
Do you have any suggestions, Shadow? like job classes or skills or anything?
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Post by: ShadowX on February 05, 2009, 06:09:34 pm
Post by: ShadowX on February 05, 2009, 06:09:34 pm
Well considering that your patch goes right along with FFT it would be up to you if you want to change generic job names and sprites. And for special characters I would need a list of them and what job you want to give them (that includes enemies). If you don't know what job to give one of them I would need a description of the job you think they should have and I'll give it a name and skillset. As for sprite as I said they'll have to wait unless someone else would help with that sooner.
Now for the skills we gatta get rid of charge... that is unless you like it. Even basing the archer skills on FFTA skill would be an improvement. Also the break skills could be changed and a few skills could even be added. Any other skill change suggestions would be welcome but that's what I have right at this moment.
Now for the skills we gatta get rid of charge... that is unless you like it. Even basing the archer skills on FFTA skill would be an improvement. Also the break skills could be changed and a few skills could even be added. Any other skill change suggestions would be welcome but that's what I have right at this moment.
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Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 05, 2009, 06:47:49 pm
Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 05, 2009, 06:47:49 pm
well I'll list some characters-
Torren Lenando (open)
Radcliff (open)
Tuckert - Former Nanten Knight
Isabella - something along the lines of an archer
Corella Lestrang - head of a criminal syndicate
Alester Zurich - head of the Lionel knights
thats what I have so far
Torren Lenando (open)
Radcliff (open)
Tuckert - Former Nanten Knight
Isabella - something along the lines of an archer
Corella Lestrang - head of a criminal syndicate
Alester Zurich - head of the Lionel knights
thats what I have so far
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Post by: ShadowX on February 05, 2009, 10:52:58 pm
Post by: ShadowX on February 05, 2009, 10:52:58 pm
Well I need a little bit more for Torren and Radcliff.
Tucket - Ex-Nanten - Skillset: Black Lion
Isabella- Ranger/Crossbowmen/Hunter - Skill: Precision (Ripped off of FFTA XD)
Corella - Criminal/Assassin/ Eagle Leader - Skill: Debauchery/Crime/Criminal Skill
Alester - Knight Master/Knightblade/Blademaster - Skill: Imperial Sword
These can definitely be changed but that's all I could get in my tired state.
Tucket - Ex-Nanten - Skillset: Black Lion
Isabella- Ranger/Crossbowmen/Hunter - Skill: Precision (Ripped off of FFTA XD)
Corella - Criminal/Assassin/ Eagle Leader - Skill: Debauchery/Crime/Criminal Skill
Alester - Knight Master/Knightblade/Blademaster - Skill: Imperial Sword
These can definitely be changed but that's all I could get in my tired state.
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Post by: Zalge on February 05, 2009, 10:58:36 pm
Post by: Zalge on February 05, 2009, 10:58:36 pm
I just thought I'd throw something in
How bout...
Isabella- Huntress - Skill: Archery Skills
Alester - Flare Knight - Skill: Burning Sword
(I just thought that maybe Alester could be fire themed xD)
How bout...
Isabella- Huntress - Skill: Archery Skills
Alester - Flare Knight - Skill: Burning Sword
(I just thought that maybe Alester could be fire themed xD)
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Post by: LastingDawn on February 05, 2009, 11:04:58 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on February 05, 2009, 11:04:58 pm
Hmm... a patsy for Ramza... I could actually see Griescher using this group as an excuse as to some of the things normally attributed to Ramza, haha! Yes, I think our two stories can go relatively hand in hand with Lenando, being part of Griescher's main focus in disproving the "good" that Ramza had done, by saying his group was responsible.
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Post by: ShadowX on February 05, 2009, 11:19:23 pm
Post by: ShadowX on February 05, 2009, 11:19:23 pm
Quote from: "Zalge"Isabella- Huntress - Skill: Archery Skills
Huntress, duh! now I feel like a sexist... *facepalm*
@LastingDawn: Hmm... that's something I would've never noticed even if I went back and fourth from your section to this tread over and over for 24 hrs. XD
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Post by: Llednar on February 06, 2009, 08:56:46 am
Post by: Llednar on February 06, 2009, 08:56:46 am
Radcliff could = Holy Priest (uses healing magic and condemnation magic)
Torren... I was thinking (in my story) making the main character change over time. Your main character could start with squire or ensign, go to captain, and then if we keep the navy idea admiral.
Class suggestion (if you keep the navy idea) Marine - equivilant of knight. Instead of breaks could use Ferocity - which would be buffs/debuffs and minor attacks.
Class suggestion (ultimate class) holy knight - equivilant of WOTL's dark knight. Instead of Dark Knight abilities it uses holy knight abilities.
Torren... I was thinking (in my story) making the main character change over time. Your main character could start with squire or ensign, go to captain, and then if we keep the navy idea admiral.
Class suggestion (if you keep the navy idea) Marine - equivilant of knight. Instead of breaks could use Ferocity - which would be buffs/debuffs and minor attacks.
Class suggestion (ultimate class) holy knight - equivilant of WOTL's dark knight. Instead of Dark Knight abilities it uses holy knight abilities.
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Post by: SentinalBlade on February 06, 2009, 09:03:57 am
Post by: SentinalBlade on February 06, 2009, 09:03:57 am
One thing id love to see in a sequel/side story is the development of balmafula
In her history/facts it says she fell in love with delita...though not much is given to why...it is clear to see delita cares for her to during the zeltenia castle scene, but still..there isnt much reasoning/background to it.
In her history/facts it says she fell in love with delita...though not much is given to why...it is clear to see delita cares for her to during the zeltenia castle scene, but still..there isnt much reasoning/background to it.
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Post by: Llednar on February 06, 2009, 09:07:34 am
Post by: Llednar on February 06, 2009, 09:07:34 am
If she appears in the game, make sure to make her a sorceror, that is what she (supposedly) was in a multiplayer mission. Another really odd thing about her is that she actually has a sprite on the character menu, despite the fact that (as far as I know) she isn't possible to get... somehow she replaced my Wiegraf, portrait and all which was funny.
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Post by: Aquilae on February 06, 2009, 09:52:33 am
Post by: Aquilae on February 06, 2009, 09:52:33 am
I don't think the Holy Armada being a part of the navy is a good idea, logically speaking if they were part of the navy they wouldn't be sent to retrieve the stones simply because it is not their area of expertise. It would be more likely they would be sent to deal with pirates and protect trade routes instead of going to retrieve the stones, I feel you should keep your original idea of the group being a paramilitary group.
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Post by: Zalge on February 06, 2009, 12:02:03 pm
Post by: Zalge on February 06, 2009, 12:02:03 pm
Quote from: "Aquilae"logically speakingWho cares about logic? if FFT had logic, then the Shrine Knights would never have existed, because logically St. Ajora was full of bull.
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Post by: ShadowX on February 06, 2009, 03:43:39 pm
Post by: ShadowX on February 06, 2009, 03:43:39 pm
@Sentinal: That's something I'd also like to see, but you'd also have to see how much Izlude want's the Black Sheep Knights to play a role. The stones seemed unimportant to Delita's goal, but you can always change the way Delita made his way to King involving the Holy Armada... that's what event editing is for isn't it XD.
And also it could be stated that even though the Holy Armada is a faction of the navy their special skill proved more that worthy to take on a new task i.e. hunting down the stones.
And also it could be stated that even though the Holy Armada is a faction of the navy their special skill proved more that worthy to take on a new task i.e. hunting down the stones.
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Post by: Llednar on February 06, 2009, 08:09:35 pm
Post by: Llednar on February 06, 2009, 08:09:35 pm
Quote from: "ShadowX"And also it could be stated that even though the Holy Armada is a faction of the navy their special skill proved more that worthy to take on a new task i.e. hunting down the stones.
XD sounds like the red wings from FFIV
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Post by: ShadowX on February 07, 2009, 02:06:04 am
Post by: ShadowX on February 07, 2009, 02:06:04 am
Quote from: "Llednar"XD sounds like the red wings from FFIV
Because Square already thought of every given scenario. ^_^
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Post by: Llednar on February 07, 2009, 01:16:04 pm
Post by: Llednar on February 07, 2009, 01:16:04 pm
yeah, they have done just about added every heroic cliche in their final fantasies.
Rebels, chosen heroes, working for a bad country and fighting back against it, the wanderer, Brainwashed/altered by the enemy, the reluctant hero, the criminal with a heart, a dude with a great life torn away from him, MMO, and the heroic thief fighting off oppressors.
Rebels, chosen heroes, working for a bad country and fighting back against it, the wanderer, Brainwashed/altered by the enemy, the reluctant hero, the criminal with a heart, a dude with a great life torn away from him, MMO, and the heroic thief fighting off oppressors.
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Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 07, 2009, 02:41:18 pm
Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 07, 2009, 02:41:18 pm
those are pretty good.
Perhaps Nanten Knight's should have skills similar to Tuckert.
I like all those suggestions, I just wish I could think of something for Torren and Radcliff
ohh, I didn't even read the second page!!
Radcliff isn't a priest, that's Gaston. And he's still a young priest....
Well, the main character in this story is Balmafula's brother. So There is going to be a lot of showing of her.
As for Torren being a captain or Admiral. The point of the Holy Armada was it was a secret group that was part of the Navy. On the surface, they seemed to answer to Lionel Navy officials, but they really answer directly to the Shrine Knights.
And they're completely unrelated to the Navy, however the suggestion oif having the Knight class turn to a Marine is good and I like it.
And lastly, I dont want to alter the original storyline in any way. According to this story, all the truths of Final Fantasy Tactics (If it will help, the 1997 version) (and if it will help you, Lastingdawn, the documents published by Alazlam Durai) are intact. I'm just working off of the parts where people aren't being shown.
The time between the Zeakden incident and the Princess' kidnapping for example. For both Rmaza and Delita.
Or, what happened while Delita was a member of the Black Sheep Knights. Something like that. The Holy Armada is a secret paramilitary group that acts under the Shrine Knights.
On the surface they seem like a division of the Navy, but half of the time they aren't even in a port city... let alone the sea. Does that make sense? They're acting as a group of the Navy, but are really a paramilitary group that does the Church's bidding.
Perhaps Nanten Knight's should have skills similar to Tuckert.
I like all those suggestions, I just wish I could think of something for Torren and Radcliff
ohh, I didn't even read the second page!!
Radcliff isn't a priest, that's Gaston. And he's still a young priest....
Quote from: "SentinalBlade"One thing id love to see in a sequel/side story is the development of balmafula
In her history/facts it says she fell in love with delita...though not much is given to why...it is clear to see delita cares for her to during the zeltenia castle scene, but still..there isnt much reasoning/background to it.
Well, the main character in this story is Balmafula's brother. So There is going to be a lot of showing of her.
As for Torren being a captain or Admiral. The point of the Holy Armada was it was a secret group that was part of the Navy. On the surface, they seemed to answer to Lionel Navy officials, but they really answer directly to the Shrine Knights.
And they're completely unrelated to the Navy, however the suggestion oif having the Knight class turn to a Marine is good and I like it.
And lastly, I dont want to alter the original storyline in any way. According to this story, all the truths of Final Fantasy Tactics (If it will help, the 1997 version) (and if it will help you, Lastingdawn, the documents published by Alazlam Durai) are intact. I'm just working off of the parts where people aren't being shown.
The time between the Zeakden incident and the Princess' kidnapping for example. For both Rmaza and Delita.
Or, what happened while Delita was a member of the Black Sheep Knights. Something like that. The Holy Armada is a secret paramilitary group that acts under the Shrine Knights.
On the surface they seem like a division of the Navy, but half of the time they aren't even in a port city... let alone the sea. Does that make sense? They're acting as a group of the Navy, but are really a paramilitary group that does the Church's bidding.
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Post by: Llednar on February 07, 2009, 03:58:55 pm
Post by: Llednar on February 07, 2009, 03:58:55 pm
Sorry, I was took the and away from the priest and Radcliff
Yeah...that is a good idea, telling the untold stories as well as the side story.
Yeah...that is a good idea, telling the untold stories as well as the side story.
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Post by: CidIII on February 09, 2009, 05:43:21 pm
Post by: CidIII on February 09, 2009, 05:43:21 pm
Armada doesn't have to refer to a fleet of warships...
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Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 11, 2009, 02:05:52 pm
Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 11, 2009, 02:05:52 pm
First, really? What else could it refer to, I've ever heard it that way. Actually, the only time I've heard of an Armada was the Spanish Armada.
second, your signature is awesome ._.
second, your signature is awesome ._.
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Post by: DarthPaul on February 11, 2009, 02:22:40 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on February 11, 2009, 02:22:40 pm
...........Armada only refers to a fleet of warships or a large number of ships.........I have found multiple sources on this one before posting.
Though it is seen referring to other things though, not as often.
So even without boats Holy Armada still stands as an awesome title.
Also yes that sig is amazing.
Though it is seen referring to other things though, not as often.
So even without boats Holy Armada still stands as an awesome title.
Also yes that sig is amazing.
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Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 11, 2009, 03:28:51 pm
Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 11, 2009, 03:28:51 pm
You really like it?
I did think that The Holy Armada was a very respectable name.
Much like I see the Nanten, Hokuten, and Aegis are. So, that's why I gave them such a title.
I did think that The Holy Armada was a very respectable name.
Much like I see the Nanten, Hokuten, and Aegis are. So, that's why I gave them such a title.
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Post by: DarthPaul on February 11, 2009, 04:39:05 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on February 11, 2009, 04:39:05 pm
Where does Aegis come up with other than the shield.
Wait never mind I remember now.
Wait never mind I remember now.
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Post by: CidIII on February 11, 2009, 05:20:34 pm
Post by: CidIII on February 11, 2009, 05:20:34 pm
Well, armada can refer to an Armed Force. Some Spanish speaking countries refer to their armies as an armada.
It makes no difference, however.
It makes no difference, however.
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Post by: DarthPaul on February 11, 2009, 05:23:01 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on February 11, 2009, 05:23:01 pm
That would fall under another Language's definition of the word.
If they are speaking Spanish then I assume Armada means army in Spanish.
Hopefully Arch can tell us.
If they are speaking Spanish then I assume Armada means army in Spanish.
Hopefully Arch can tell us.
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Post by: CidIII on February 11, 2009, 05:26:43 pm
Post by: CidIII on February 11, 2009, 05:26:43 pm
I'm pretty sure it means 'Navy' or 'armed' in Spanish.
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Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 15, 2009, 02:30:12 pm
Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 15, 2009, 02:30:12 pm
Well, regardless.... Final Fantasy Tactics uses several things from other Nationalities in it's game. And if it's any consolation, Ivalice looks kind of like Europe....
So, In the end, I believe Armada was an alright term. Moving along, does anybody have anything else to say about the story?
I started working on the script....
So, In the end, I believe Armada was an alright term. Moving along, does anybody have anything else to say about the story?
I started working on the script....
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Post by: Archael on February 15, 2009, 02:38:47 pm
Post by: Archael on February 15, 2009, 02:38:47 pm
the definition of Armada in spanish:
armada s. f.
1. Conjunto de las fuerzas navales de un estado.
2. Conjunto de embarcaciones de guerra que participan en una acción o se destinan a un servicio determinado.
which directly translates into:
1. Group of naval forces belonging to a country or nation
2. Group of war vessels that take part in an action or determined service
armada s. f.
1. Conjunto de las fuerzas navales de un estado.
2. Conjunto de embarcaciones de guerra que participan en una acción o se destinan a un servicio determinado.
which directly translates into:
1. Group of naval forces belonging to a country or nation
2. Group of war vessels that take part in an action or determined service
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Post by: DarthPaul on February 15, 2009, 02:41:10 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on February 15, 2009, 02:41:10 pm
So the definition didn't change.
Then again we probably commandeered the word for use in the English language.
Then again we probably commandeered the word for use in the English language.
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Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 16, 2009, 02:22:10 pm
Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 16, 2009, 02:22:10 pm
....
There are a lot more things that dont make sense in the Final Fantasy world, we dont need to spend all our time on this topic discussing the legitimacy of the word "Armada"
There are a lot more things that dont make sense in the Final Fantasy world, we dont need to spend all our time on this topic discussing the legitimacy of the word "Armada"
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Post by: Setzer on February 16, 2009, 02:35:10 pm
Post by: Setzer on February 16, 2009, 02:35:10 pm
In Portuguese, Armada=Army.
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Post by: SentinalBlade on February 16, 2009, 02:42:42 pm
Post by: SentinalBlade on February 16, 2009, 02:42:42 pm
Guys, its Izlude_Tingel's topic. im not sure he appreaciates the continued conversation of the word armada when he has said there are more deserving discusions relating FFT, and possibly his patch.
In short i think i speak for izlude when i say; "Focus on the patch, not literal definitions"
In short i think i speak for izlude when i say; "Focus on the patch, not literal definitions"
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Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 19, 2009, 12:13:39 pm
Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 19, 2009, 12:13:39 pm
I mean, its just a word....
I could have called it the Holy farmers and it wouldn't have mattered. The Group still would carry out the same tasks.
Thank you, SentinalBlade...
Does anyone have any questions or comments about the characters? Because that is the area I'm working in right now.
I could have called it the Holy farmers and it wouldn't have mattered. The Group still would carry out the same tasks.
Thank you, SentinalBlade...
Does anyone have any questions or comments about the characters? Because that is the area I'm working in right now.
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Post by: DarthPaul on February 19, 2009, 12:29:58 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on February 19, 2009, 12:29:58 pm
I vote for Holy Ventriloquists!
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Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 19, 2009, 08:46:41 pm
Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 19, 2009, 08:46:41 pm
.... This just doesn't end does it?
I never thought people would get so fixated on the stupidest thing.
Why is that all you guys care about?!?! It's Holy Armada, and it will stay that way. I've had that name for almost 4 years now. So can we please NEVER speak of the Armada thing? Please!?
I never thought people would get so fixated on the stupidest thing.
Why is that all you guys care about?!?! It's Holy Armada, and it will stay that way. I've had that name for almost 4 years now. So can we please NEVER speak of the Armada thing? Please!?
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Post by: SentinalBlade on February 19, 2009, 08:50:39 pm
Post by: SentinalBlade on February 19, 2009, 08:50:39 pm
DP and some others have a REALLY hard time KEEPING SPAM IN THE SPAM TOPIC.
I actually like the holy armada. the english language has proven through out time that the language is born to adapt...
At any rate, is there any more information on the background of the main character? will there be more than the main characters mentioned appearing from the holy armada? like maybe their boss makes an appearence somewhere along the story
I actually like the holy armada. the english language has proven through out time that the language is born to adapt...
At any rate, is there any more information on the background of the main character? will there be more than the main characters mentioned appearing from the holy armada? like maybe their boss makes an appearence somewhere along the story
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Post by: dwib on February 19, 2009, 09:30:56 pm
Post by: dwib on February 19, 2009, 09:30:56 pm
Armada sounds fine. The Inquisition was originally named The Holy Office, but I didn't see any inquisitors having a desk!!
SentinalBlade, ph33rb0t is simply spreading the ph33r!!!!
SentinalBlade, ph33rb0t is simply spreading the ph33r!!!!
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Post by: Llednar on February 19, 2009, 09:39:14 pm
Post by: Llednar on February 19, 2009, 09:39:14 pm
*Ahem* I apologize for starting this madness that has taken up waaaaaaaaay to much space. Anyway what will the main character appear as? If he is working for the templarate will he have the traditional gold leg/arm armor with a colored tunic over it, or will he appear as something else? If he does take that guise, will he have the hood like what Loffrey had, or will he be hoodless like the other members?
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Post by: DarthPaul on February 19, 2009, 10:44:31 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on February 19, 2009, 10:44:31 pm
I agree with Sentinal the English language is the most versatile one I know of.
Also I said Holy Ventriloquists to lighten the mood and steer us back on topic.
Or I was spreading the ph33r, whichever one you like.
Also I said Holy Ventriloquists to lighten the mood and steer us back on topic.
Or I was spreading the ph33r, whichever one you like.
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Post by: CidIII on February 19, 2009, 11:26:15 pm
Post by: CidIII on February 19, 2009, 11:26:15 pm
Shouldn't this be locked?
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Post by: SentinalBlade on February 19, 2009, 11:30:19 pm
Post by: SentinalBlade on February 19, 2009, 11:30:19 pm
With the amount of spam, for a time it deserved to, but this guy has a wellthought story...if he posted i nthe new projects/ideas thread, itd be alot harder to organize everything inbetween the posts relating to other ideas. some that were going nowhere needed to be shut down. this one is getting back on track.
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Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 22, 2009, 01:49:06 pm
Post by: Izlude_Tingel on February 22, 2009, 01:49:06 pm
I knew you were joking Darthpaul, I really did 
and thanks SentinalBlade, for really bringing this back on track.
on friday, my friend let me borrow his PSP, so I am finally able to play Tactics again. The only problem is, he didn't give me the charger so it died before I even got to Dorter trade city. The reason I bring this up is because when somebody is going to create a new story for anything... or even any idea at all... they are inspired by their surroundings.
Like, the music you listen to, the things you watch on TV, or the games you play.
Seeing as how I am trying to create a story based on Final Fantasy Tactics, it is good to keep myself exposed to the game. So, by playing FFT all day, I will get ideas for the story.
If we need to go over the characters again, I will:
Torren Lenando- leader of his team in the Holy Armada. He will look something like Mustadio. So, that's what his sprite will be based off of. His initial job will be just like Ramza.
Isabella- an archer, that simple. Her sprite will be a simple female archer, however her abilities will be like the combination of a knight and engineer. So she can break weapons/armor/stats and use arm aim/ leg aim.
Tuckert- a former Nanten knight, his job will actually officially be Holy Knight. His sprite will be Wiegraff while he was im the Death corps.
Gaston- a young priest, his sprite will simply be a male white mage. His skills however will be the same as the Heresy Examiner Zalmo.
Radcliff- Torren's best friend. His sprite will be a simple squire, but his face shot will be the Death corps Squire from the first battle in Gariland. His abilities will be the same as Torren.
IS that a good overview of the main characters?
and thanks SentinalBlade, for really bringing this back on track.
on friday, my friend let me borrow his PSP, so I am finally able to play Tactics again. The only problem is, he didn't give me the charger so it died before I even got to Dorter trade city. The reason I bring this up is because when somebody is going to create a new story for anything... or even any idea at all... they are inspired by their surroundings.
Like, the music you listen to, the things you watch on TV, or the games you play.
Seeing as how I am trying to create a story based on Final Fantasy Tactics, it is good to keep myself exposed to the game. So, by playing FFT all day, I will get ideas for the story.
If we need to go over the characters again, I will:
Torren Lenando- leader of his team in the Holy Armada. He will look something like Mustadio. So, that's what his sprite will be based off of. His initial job will be just like Ramza.
Isabella- an archer, that simple. Her sprite will be a simple female archer, however her abilities will be like the combination of a knight and engineer. So she can break weapons/armor/stats and use arm aim/ leg aim.
Tuckert- a former Nanten knight, his job will actually officially be Holy Knight. His sprite will be Wiegraff while he was im the Death corps.
Gaston- a young priest, his sprite will simply be a male white mage. His skills however will be the same as the Heresy Examiner Zalmo.
Radcliff- Torren's best friend. His sprite will be a simple squire, but his face shot will be the Death corps Squire from the first battle in Gariland. His abilities will be the same as Torren.
IS that a good overview of the main characters?
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Post by: LastingDawn on February 23, 2009, 01:18:55 am
Post by: LastingDawn on February 23, 2009, 01:18:55 am
Simple, yet profound, sounds pretty good.
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Post by: SentinalBlade on February 23, 2009, 01:29:20 am
Post by: SentinalBlade on February 23, 2009, 01:29:20 am
Excellent summary, izlude.
I recommend a different name for Radcliffe though.
Radcliffe is a genericly rolled name for males. i get it tons of times with my male starting generics. its a good name, but not most unique
I like Torren though. very cool.
I recommend a different name for Radcliffe though.
Radcliffe is a genericly rolled name for males. i get it tons of times with my male starting generics. its a good name, but not most unique
I like Torren though. very cool.
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Post by: ShadowX on February 24, 2009, 09:40:41 pm
Post by: ShadowX on February 24, 2009, 09:40:41 pm
So you came up with ideas for those characters you didn't have before, that's good to see. Did you want to change the color for Radcliff's sprite? That's something easily don't and it won't take away from the simplicity of it.
And Sent: can't you change the names of the generics? I really didn't get much time to play with Tactext before I lost my comp but I say a tab on there that had all of the names.
And Sent: can't you change the names of the generics? I really didn't get much time to play with Tactext before I lost my comp but I say a tab on there that had all of the names.
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Post by: Smitson on March 11, 2009, 06:17:35 pm
Post by: Smitson on March 11, 2009, 06:17:35 pm
Whatever happened with this?
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Post by: Asmo X on March 12, 2009, 04:31:20 am
Post by: Asmo X on March 12, 2009, 04:31:20 am
It went nowhere what a surprise. This could probably be closed.
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Post by: Dominic NY18 on March 12, 2009, 12:03:55 pm
Post by: Dominic NY18 on March 12, 2009, 12:03:55 pm
Wow. I hadn't realized it's been so long since anything of interest happened here. Well, I'm going to close this for the time being. Maybe he'll show up again soon enough. If not...