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Modding => Spriting => Topic started by: AuraDragon on October 17, 2008, 03:10:28 pm

Title: The Dark Knight & Holy Knight
Post by: AuraDragon on October 17, 2008, 03:10:28 pm
It all started when I first played Final Fantasy Tactics, I had always wished for the Holy Knight class and the Dark Knight class, mainly inspired by Agrias and Gafgarion, who happen to be two of my favorite characters.


(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/Knights.png)
 ^Old Portraits
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/mDK.png)(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/mHK.png)(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/fDK-1.png)(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/fHK-1.png)
 ^New Portraits!

 ~CURRENTLY WORKING ON:~
 -fHK Portrait Complete
 -fHK Sprite
 -ASM formula hacking
 -Unrelated things


(Please give credits where credits are due!)
(Main post is edited, earliest posts are irrelevant.)
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Post by: Jacob31593 on October 17, 2008, 03:27:34 pm
i like the 4th one
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Post by: digitaldragoon on October 17, 2008, 04:31:32 pm
The similar palettes and different helms remind me of Judges, very nice.
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Post by: Dormin Jake on October 17, 2008, 05:17:55 pm
I'd say number 4 too.  I really like the variety.

Tiny nitpick: the chest armor in profile makes the male dark knight look slightly buxom, the way it bulges out a bit.
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Post by: Zozma on October 17, 2008, 07:45:25 pm
i say number 4 too
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Post by: AuraDragon on October 17, 2008, 08:36:38 pm
#4 is decided, just gimme a minute to finish the Directions and Portrait. :)
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Post by: AuraDragon on October 18, 2008, 01:02:59 am
Update (sorry for Double)
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Post by: Cheetah on October 18, 2008, 02:00:22 am
Well your spriting skills look good. I'm still not sure about the design as a whole, but it is certainly interesting looking. What is supposed to be on the head of Holy Knight #2?
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Post by: AuraDragon on October 18, 2008, 03:00:27 am
It's a Shrine Knight's Hood, cause Holy doesn't mean Priest... :D
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Post by: LastingDawn on October 18, 2008, 07:34:40 am
Hm... is that a skirt of a robe, or just very baggy pants? If they're robe skirts, quite unique. It almost seems to give the affiliation to the church.
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Post by: Zozma on October 18, 2008, 12:45:16 pm
they appear to be like the oracle robe, which i always liked that idea for using them with knight armor, good job :D

i say the first holy knight would be better, the hood doesn't seem like it should go there...

and the dark knights looking interesting, id say the frame where he is facing directly forward, the robe isnt going down low enough. but besides that looks good.
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Post by: KazeKasano on October 18, 2008, 12:52:45 pm
Very nice! looking forward to seeing this completed.
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Post by: Cheetah on October 18, 2008, 01:24:55 pm
Maybe save the hood thing for the female version of the Holy Knight.
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Post by: AuraDragon on October 18, 2008, 04:19:17 pm
Update. :D
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Post by: Jacob31593 on October 18, 2008, 04:41:41 pm
i like the first holy knight
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Post by: AuraDragon on October 18, 2008, 05:49:36 pm
Updated, added a Portrait for the Holy Knight. :D
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Post by: Zozma on October 19, 2008, 03:56:16 pm
nice job on both :D
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Post by: gojoe on October 19, 2008, 08:02:38 pm
wow looks better than the dk from psp (what doesnt?)
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Post by: Cheetah on October 20, 2008, 02:50:10 am
I'm definitely digging these sprites, especially the Holy Knight.
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Post by: DarthPaul on October 20, 2008, 09:38:12 am
Quote from: "gojoe"wow looks better than the dk from psp (what doesnt?)

nothing looks worse than the psp dk

if you think im wrong feel free to prove me wrong
Title: Re: My Sprites for my patch (Dark Knight, Holy Knight) *UPDA
Post by: Lydyn on October 20, 2008, 01:24:21 pm
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/Knights.png)


Wow, amazing! I love'em. :)
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Post by: gojoe on October 20, 2008, 04:04:58 pm
hmm i see your requirement is lvl 8 knight only. i'd go with at least another requirement, like lvl 8 blk or wht mage
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Post by: AuraDragon on October 20, 2008, 04:28:27 pm
It will be like that, I just didn't want to have lines coming from the White and Black mages to the HK and DK. :(
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Post by: gojoe on October 21, 2008, 10:54:36 am
ah kewl, any ideas for skillsets?
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Post by: AuraDragon on October 21, 2008, 04:19:51 pm
Updated, btw, what happened to your dragons Joe?
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Post by: Zozma on October 21, 2008, 05:15:52 pm
for dark knights, id say create like 2 or three more skills

they did a horrible job with new skills on the psp version

id say one skill should be Dark Wave , spread damage but damages user as well (the worker8 dispose skill formula)

and then another one could probably be like a reverse night sword, that heals target and damages caster (like wish) and perhaps undead reversible so it would be useful on undeads

(those are just my ideas)
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Post by: AuraDragon on October 21, 2008, 06:59:11 pm
I like your ideas. :D  I'll try adding them, but I don't know how to make an animation for them...
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Post by: Zozma on October 21, 2008, 07:53:06 pm
you dont have to create new animations for then

heres an idea for you,(and they did it in to these two skills in the psp version as well)

there are a total of three versions of the skill for bombs called "Small Bomb" tow of them right next to each other in between the Ja Skills

both of them use the weapon swinging animation, you can assign another grafic to them, for example for Dark Wave you could change the small bomb effect to the one for Koutetsu which would look pretty good for a skill like this imo. and then the reverse night sword could use the wish effect really... its very easy to do once you get the hang of it, you have to patch battle.bin as well as the scus

just be sure to give the other two bombs the only other remaining Small Bomb skill
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Post by: AuraDragon on October 21, 2008, 10:52:48 pm
Major Update, btw, do not watch an Anime called Perfect Blue!
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Post by: Lydyn on October 21, 2008, 11:01:36 pm
With FFT Patcher's automatic function of patching the ISO, you don't need to really patch those files seperately...
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Post by: Archael on October 21, 2008, 11:31:40 pm
gojoe's dragons.. well... they got.. they became too greedy with money

and orlandeuaue came down from the sky to inflict some punishment
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Post by: gojoe on October 22, 2008, 01:53:57 am
bu.. but my dragons were making soooo much money :(..... ill fix it

EDIT: Ha!
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Post by: Dormin Jake on October 22, 2008, 02:37:34 am
Those dragons are less cool un-slaughtered.
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Post by: Lydyn on October 22, 2008, 02:40:50 am
Sadly, I agree. :P Great job, by the way AuraDragon!
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Post by: Green Archer on October 22, 2008, 03:48:11 am
Hey auradragon! Nice work on the sprites! I just had an idea, I think it would be cool if alternate sprites for Holy/Dark Knight were made (similar to the alternate costumes when you play Tekken / Soul Calibur, etc... :)
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Post by: digitaldragoon on October 22, 2008, 01:09:43 pm
Great sprites Auradragon. Don't know if anyone else has mentioned it, but Holy Knight reminds me of Disciple from KOTOR 2.
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Post by: BeoulveBlack on October 23, 2008, 10:09:19 pm
damn gojoe, Zodiac just ownz'd all your dragons...

btw, for some reason, i can't see the different palettes for the dark/holy knights (if there are, in fact, any alternate colors)
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Post by: Zozma on October 23, 2008, 10:26:53 pm
i hope you're planning on making more sprites , youre doing pretty good :D
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Post by: AuraDragon on October 26, 2008, 01:46:25 am
Finished the damned (err... BLESSED) Holy Knight Sprite, now to make the damned (:D) Dark Knight, will release the HK soon, but I just wanted to make an update, so post here so I don't Double Post.
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Post by: DarthPaul on October 26, 2008, 11:50:31 am
do you plan on making female sprites of these in the future
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Post by: AuraDragon on October 26, 2008, 06:19:07 pm
There, released the HK sprite, enjoy! (no palettes yet, but I said I was going to release it today... heh)
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Post by: Zozma on October 26, 2008, 06:57:07 pm
nice sprite! ill have some enemies spamming the holy sword set mwahahaha
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Post by: gojoe on October 26, 2008, 10:32:27 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"do you plan on making female sprites of these in the future

hmmmm maybe use a variation like holy lancer & dark lancer
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Post by: DarthPaul on October 26, 2008, 11:20:11 pm
Quote from: "gojoe"
Quote from: "darthpaul"do you plan on making female sprites of these in the future

hmmmm maybe use a variation like holy lancer & dark lancer

that a cool concept
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Post by: Setzer on October 27, 2008, 06:11:58 am
Valkyries, maybe.


Nice sprites, AuraDragon!
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Post by: LastingDawn on October 27, 2008, 01:03:06 pm
Truly a Grade A sprite AuraDragon! This may be one of the best sprites I've seen in some time! I would be honored, if you would allow it to see use in Mercenaries (perhaps not as Holy Knights... but they will be something)
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Post by: AuraDragon on October 27, 2008, 02:04:02 pm
Credits, not permission, so go ahead and use the sprites. ;)
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Post by: DarthPaul on October 27, 2008, 03:17:40 pm
..... no words should have sent a poet *tear*
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Post by: gojoe on October 27, 2008, 04:19:01 pm
these are so good that i messed myself (twice)
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Post by: DarthPaul on October 27, 2008, 04:28:23 pm
O.o .......................same here
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Post by: AuraDragon on October 27, 2008, 04:30:07 pm
Messed...?
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Post by: DarthPaul on October 27, 2008, 04:33:18 pm
ummmm if you ask that question you might just be too young to hear the answer
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Post by: AuraDragon on October 27, 2008, 04:58:00 pm
:D

I've posted all the Dark Knight Palettes, and the Holy Knight's Palettes will be redone after I finish ol' Darky. :D
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Post by: gojoe on October 27, 2008, 05:59:23 pm
nice i like the variations
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Post by: BeoulveBlack on October 27, 2008, 07:09:32 pm
ok so now i can see them and i'm definitely diggin the sprites...

was the oracle used as a base for the holy knight?
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Post by: DarthPaul on October 27, 2008, 07:20:16 pm
that or he wrote the oracle over for it
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Post by: Archael on October 27, 2008, 09:01:31 pm
lookin good AD
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Post by: AuraDragon on October 28, 2008, 10:23:10 pm
http://www.ffhacktics.com/psx/sprites.php (http://www.ffhacktics.com/psx/sprites.php) <Done Products, available for download too. :D
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Post by: Zozma on October 29, 2008, 01:54:02 am
nice job :D and you got them done in a pretty short time
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Post by: Vanya on October 29, 2008, 08:35:20 am
Excellent! =)
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Post by: AuraDragon on October 31, 2008, 10:38:45 pm
UPDATE: Mrs. Holy Knight was posted, please leave your comments and opinion on what you like about each one, like maybe you like the 3rd mHK but would prefer White boots like the 1st.  You get the idea.
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Post by: Lydyn on October 31, 2008, 11:27:08 pm
Maybe the second one... with white boots and without the hair-bun. Perhaps longer hair too.
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Post by: AuraDragon on October 31, 2008, 11:49:42 pm
It's not a hat, it's a hair bun... thing... like from Chun-Li from Street Fighter.
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Post by: gojoe on November 01, 2008, 01:13:26 am
i'd say either of the two on the right, the white glove thing seems best fitting
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Post by: Xifanie on November 01, 2008, 01:25:34 am
the armored ones need much longer arms
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Post by: Zozma on November 01, 2008, 01:29:20 am
hmmm... 3 looks good, but really, try a sample of 3 but with agrias' arms or custom miluda's arms
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Post by: Lydyn on November 01, 2008, 09:31:04 pm
Quote from: "Lydyn"Maybe the second one [top row]... with white boots and without the hair-bun. Perhaps longer hair too.

I stick to this.
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Post by: Zozma on November 02, 2008, 02:35:41 am
alright thanks for the new samples

i really think you should go with either number 9 with the hood
or number 7
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 05, 2008, 05:12:37 pm
Update:

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/MsHolyKnight4FINAL.png)(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/MsHolyKnight5arch.png)
Pick on, which ever one has the most votes within 48 hours will be made.

IT'S ELECTION TIME AGAIN! XD

(At request of Voldemort, I added a 5th candidate. :D)
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Post by: Archael on November 05, 2008, 05:13:53 pm
what teh fuck happened to the silver armored gauntlets

I vote for none

go die
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Post by: Lydyn on November 05, 2008, 05:14:05 pm
I'd like #2, but I'm not fond of any of the arms, myself.
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Post by: Zozma on November 05, 2008, 05:19:15 pm
i say number 4
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Post by: Archael on November 05, 2008, 05:59:30 pm
number 4 with armored gauntlets
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Post by: Zozma on November 05, 2008, 06:23:10 pm
mmkay so then i guess i meant number 5
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Post by: Lydyn on November 05, 2008, 06:31:57 pm
#2 with #5's gauntlets.
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Post by: Archael on November 05, 2008, 06:35:35 pm
#5

I'd do her
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Post by: Zozma on November 05, 2008, 06:38:20 pm
but arch shes underaged!
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Post by: Archael on November 05, 2008, 06:42:27 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"but arch shes underaged!

your point?
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 05, 2008, 07:22:23 pm
And she is digital...
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Post by: gojoe on November 05, 2008, 08:56:55 pm
i'd have to say #2 with #5 arms as well
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 05, 2008, 09:45:11 pm
Quote from: "Voldemort7"#5

I'd do her

me too (whos knows here age and who cares if shes digital so am i

DUN DUN DUN
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 06, 2008, 02:58:44 pm
10 to 2 to 1... I think that the only way #5 won't win is if everyone from the rest of the forum comes and chooses #4... xD
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Post by: Vanya on November 06, 2008, 03:48:21 pm
Or she decides to run a McCain-ish campaign! =P
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Post by: Xeno3 on November 06, 2008, 04:25:46 pm
hmm... well I couldn't really vote because well to be honest I liked the lasts ones shoulder armor and gloves but the first ones feather, maybe this could be a new look for the Ms. holy knight???
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 07, 2008, 08:52:36 am
Quote from: "Vanya"Or she decides to run a McCain-ish campaign! =P

NICE
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 07, 2008, 02:40:49 pm
@ Xeno3 :  It won't be the new look if no body votes for it.  :D  And I will also be making another sprite after, well, after the Female Dark Knight. ;)
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Post by: Xeno3 on November 07, 2008, 04:45:33 pm
Quote from: "AuraDragon"@ Xeno3 :  It won't be the new look if no body votes for it.  :shock:

lol let me clarify a little more, I meant like another option to vote for, btu since voting is over there is not point in it now, it was just another option to go with off the poll
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 11, 2008, 07:46:19 pm
Temporary Hiatus in sprite making, just letting everyone know why there is a slow down in sprite creation.  :shock:
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Post by: Xeno3 on November 11, 2008, 09:19:33 pm
Don't take this the wrong way but doesn't the last sprite on the lower right some what resemble The Shredder from the ninja turtles?

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/Palette2D.png)
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 12, 2008, 11:31:20 am
Kinda it took you pointing it out to make any connection without the claws.
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 14, 2008, 12:21:28 am
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/fHK.png)

Update, so far so good?  Or bad?  Your comments:
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Post by: Lydyn on November 14, 2008, 12:24:10 am
I like it.
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 27, 2008, 10:16:50 pm
Female Dark Knight:

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/fDK2.png)
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 28, 2008, 02:00:04 pm
Nice!!!!
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 29, 2008, 02:33:14 am
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/fDK5.png)
:D
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Post by: LastingDawn on November 29, 2008, 07:42:10 am
Much nicer! I prefer the helmetless one much more, then the... well helmeted one.
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Post by: Archael on November 29, 2008, 11:55:31 am
the hair band looks too much like fHK hood

I liked helmet better
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Post by: gojoe on November 29, 2008, 05:43:40 pm
AD needs another poll
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 29, 2008, 09:32:42 pm
I'm out of polls, would need Zodiac or someone to remove it so I can start a new one, but that is unrequired as I am not accepting anymore opinions on the fDK. ;)
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on January 19, 2009, 12:50:30 pm
The female dark knight is beautiful.
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Post by: Green Archer on January 20, 2009, 12:51:01 am
I second the motion.
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Post by: Luiakyn on February 09, 2009, 10:28:52 pm
Wow, very nice project :o I may still the holy knight design for a new look for Luiakyn >.>
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Post by: Llednar on February 09, 2009, 10:29:39 pm
Is there a female one out yet?
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Post by: Kokojo on February 26, 2009, 02:34:40 am
Me and Aura (i managed to fish him back) are currently working on the Female holy knight and Female Dark knight sprites. Should not be so much compliquated as Aura did 90% of the work for me. This will slow me down in COP, but hell, il use the sprites there.

And if i start spriting, well you can expect a whole new lot of customs sprites for all of my jobs. :D

(Shameless Bump and advertising incorporated)
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Post by: Celdia on February 26, 2009, 02:44:13 am
Hadn't seen this before. I really like the helmet-less one.
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Post by: AuraDragon on February 26, 2009, 09:47:34 pm
I hate you Kokojo, I hate you...

Yeah, anyway, working on the fDK... *sob*
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Post by: gojoe on February 27, 2009, 08:42:01 am
Quote from: "AuraDragon"I hate you Kokojo, I hate you...

Yeah, anyway, working on the fDK... *sob*

rape is never the answer
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Post by: AuraDragon on February 28, 2009, 12:36:27 am
:shock:


(http://gickr.com/results/anim_d83dcb92-04cb-42e4-89ef-d0d9edfc2961.gif)
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Post by: Kokojo on February 28, 2009, 12:50:11 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69MTjwpW88 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69MTjwpW88)
Shocked
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Post by: Cheetah on February 28, 2009, 03:00:23 am
Looks dang good.
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Post by: gojoe on February 28, 2009, 11:28:09 am
sweet
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on March 01, 2009, 12:55:12 am
Yea. Looks very nice ^^
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Post by: AuraDragon on March 01, 2009, 10:42:16 pm
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/fDK02.gif)(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/fDK01.gif)

It is coming, soon, yes... soon....  Going to update the mainpage too.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on March 01, 2009, 11:57:13 pm
Great ^^
Can't wait till it's done ^^
Looking forward on it ^^
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Post by: Cheetah on March 02, 2009, 12:04:12 am
Everything looks good in the back view except the hair ribbon appears to be glitching our a bit with some blue showing. Maybe that is just how it is though.
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Post by: AuraDragon on March 02, 2009, 12:13:21 am
Your eyes are sharper than knives Cheetah, even I didn't notice there was a strand of blue in her hair. x3
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on March 02, 2009, 12:47:48 am
Lol. Yea. Me neither.
It looks perfect, but cheetah found the glitch. Lol ^^
Great owl eyes ^^
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Post by: Cheetah on March 02, 2009, 01:28:46 am
I'm a bit of a perfectionist in those respects. It is what really slows me down in my spriting. I might not have the best artistic abilities, but no pixel is out of place.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on March 02, 2009, 05:05:29 am
Perfection is good ^^
Makes everything looks perfect rather some glitches here and there ^^
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Post by: Scionti on March 13, 2009, 11:56:28 pm
Newfag here, just registered, I have to say, I totally love the sprites.  :roll:
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Post by: Kaijyuu on March 14, 2009, 12:42:06 am
You can import them with Shishi's sprite editor, I believe. (haven't used the new version myself)
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Post by: Kokojo on April 15, 2009, 01:17:48 pm
So here is the FDK, i can't complete her myself : Palettes are my big enemy.
If you spot any problem, il be glad to fix them. Spriting is not my fun, anyway.

I think it is complete, minus the Obvious palettes. Could someone do them?
(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5262/femaledarkknight.png)

Edit : Zozma spotted the backside legs not being colored and i fixed them.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 15, 2009, 10:52:01 pm
This is nice ^^
Great work.
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Post by: Vanya on April 16, 2009, 12:21:19 am
Yeah. Petty damn sweet.
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Post by: Kokojo on April 18, 2009, 01:12:22 pm
Here are all the sprites !
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Post by: Smash on April 19, 2009, 03:31:02 am
Dark Knight female, palletes 1-5 done. Testing is needed

No mug as of yet.
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Post by: Kokojo on April 19, 2009, 01:28:33 pm
Well exept for sprite number #3, the dark/white one, where her eyes are grey, the rest looks well and blend in.
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Post by: Cheetah on April 20, 2009, 05:03:00 pm
It would be pretty awesome if you did a mug for this sprite Smash. I'm exciting to take a look at the palettes later in ShiShi.
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Post by: Smash on April 21, 2009, 03:00:29 am
I did actually suggest him that myself.


Palletes are taking a while, mainly because of the lack of time, and life, of course.
Once I get back to it though, they'll be done quickly.
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Post by: Kokojo on April 21, 2009, 03:01:28 am
No problem smash ! We love you !
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Post by: mav on April 29, 2009, 03:26:47 pm
Beautiful sprites! These were tremendously well done; kudos to you guys. And while we're on the subject of mugs/portraits, maybe you should model part of the helmet (so not the cowl) more off Gafgarion's and less off of the lancer helms. I think it'd be a little more distinctive and would really help these characters come together.

If you need a mockup, I'll post a very crude example of what I mean.
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Post by: Kokojo on July 16, 2009, 03:48:37 am
Im having dire pallete problems (im stupid)

Can anyone help ? I think i got a ok-ish potrait for the female Holy knight.

we really need palettes for those 4 and it makes two totally new class !
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Post by: RopeSander on October 10, 2009, 03:19:35 pm
Did anyone ever convert these sprites for PSX?
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Post by: Kokojo on October 10, 2009, 03:30:55 pm
They are already done for PSX, my friend. They just need palettes. (Female one)
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Post by: RopeSander on October 10, 2009, 03:39:03 pm
Post the Fem Holy Knight sprite for psx, I can't seem to see it in the thread.
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Post by: RopeSander on October 10, 2009, 03:42:49 pm
Never mind.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 12, 2009, 09:46:11 am
Submit them, Sir Kokogir!
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Post by: Kagebunji on October 12, 2009, 10:13:53 am
Uuuum, so palette is everything that is missing? How about group effort? Every spriter can join, and do one palette. Five palettes are needed, so five spriters can join (I'm in).
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 12, 2009, 10:53:07 am
Yeah. Good idea.
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Post by: Kokojo on October 12, 2009, 01:02:33 pm
Portrait too ! I could logically try to do the palettes, but urgh XD
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Post by: mav on October 12, 2009, 05:05:26 pm
Lemme see the sprite, and you might find yourself with a portrait...
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Post by: Kokojo on October 21, 2009, 08:19:18 pm
Mav, the sprites are listed here :
(or do you need a better format ?)

http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtop ... &start=124 (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1134&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=124)
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 21, 2009, 08:28:53 pm
Were the first two, the latest ones?
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Post by: mav on October 21, 2009, 08:48:30 pm
Hmm...Okay, I'll see what I can do. I wish Smash made the portraits...just cause his always managed to look perfect. For the Holy Knight, she has a hood on and two bangs sticking out, right? I'll probably start with that one, since it's easier. :P
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Post by: Kokojo on October 21, 2009, 09:15:29 pm
No In fact thats her armor, not her hair ! (Funny heh ?)

Thanks you a lot, mav !
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Post by: mav on October 21, 2009, 09:32:18 pm
Wait, that's armor?! Hmm...can you explain what exactly this portrait would need to show?
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Post by: Kokojo on October 21, 2009, 09:44:07 pm
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4559/793.gif)

The way I see it, shes similar to the priest Portrait, but she has less hair (her hair goes more in her hood), she has a different, more focused and less kind face.
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Post by: mav on October 22, 2009, 05:49:48 pm
Is this in the right direction?
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Post by: Kokojo on October 22, 2009, 07:38:39 pm
Yeah, its about that i had in mind, minus the fact that the sprite has shoulderpads/armor/something like that, not cloth...

It looks very good by the way.
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Post by: mav on October 22, 2009, 07:59:57 pm
I'll fix up the armor design--in terms of color, how does everything need to be? Gold armor, blond hair, white hood, or something else?
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Post by: Kokojo on October 22, 2009, 08:09:31 pm
Yes, you got it right !
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Post by: Zalge on October 22, 2009, 08:33:25 pm
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/Goten3620/fholyknightportrait_152.png)

Here is my crack at it;
I know the neck is screwed up, I fail at necks. But this is what I did in just a few minutes.
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Post by: mav on October 22, 2009, 08:43:27 pm
Stealing Zalge's hood, quick recolor, new neck, and voila:
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 22, 2009, 11:48:43 pm
^ Nicely stolen and done. :)
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 23, 2009, 12:12:26 am
Wow...very nice there mav and Zalge. Very nice ^^
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Post by: mav on October 23, 2009, 08:27:56 am
I might need to modify the hood when I get back home today...

Oh and what are the other palettes like, or have they not been designed? I just wanna warn you that the chances are that the gold armor and the blond hair will end up sharing colors, so if that becomes a problem palette-wise, I'd like to know now...
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Post by: Kokojo on October 23, 2009, 12:18:50 pm
Not designed yet, but yeah, I do think the colors will need to change, if it is possible...
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Post by: mav on October 23, 2009, 05:16:04 pm
If the hood is the only thing being changed, then there shouldn't a problem. If the hair is being changed or the armor's being changed, then we may run into some difficulties...But if the hair and armor are being changed to similar colors, then we can pull it off. If you give me an example of the different palette, then I might be able to devise some kind of workaround.
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Post by: Kokojo on October 23, 2009, 05:58:48 pm
First I though about just changing the hood, but the colors would not permit it.
I tried making this, then... tell me what you think.
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Post by: mav on October 23, 2009, 06:08:26 pm
Hmm...I'll work on it--this shouldn't be too difficult.
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Post by: Asmo X on October 23, 2009, 11:36:37 pm
looks good mav
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Post by: Aquablack on October 24, 2009, 12:18:12 am
Female holy knight's portrait is looking good so far I think.
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Post by: mav on October 24, 2009, 02:35:20 pm
Okay, I couldn't really replicate the look of the sprites the way I wanted, and for that I apologize, but here are my attempts. Each portrait is 16 colors, and the portrait at the bottom is supposed to be for the sprite here (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1134&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=124).

So I guess I need to better implement the palette here...
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 24, 2009, 10:49:50 pm
Very nice palette choice there mav. I like them all. ^^
So, the blue armor is the original portrait for the sprite? I mean corresponding with that sprite ^^
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Post by: mav on October 25, 2009, 12:48:24 am
Technically, yes. The blue one goes with the blue clothed one...who's technically blond. If you look at the sprite file, you'll see the one who wears aqua clothes has dark hair and the one who wears red has reddish or orange hair. If I lighten the hair, I can make the blue one blond and the red one more of a redhead, but the aqua one will likely lose her darker hair color.

I dunno yet; I'll see if I can fix it.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 25, 2009, 10:45:20 am
Ah, I see. Well, they are looking great. Though hope you can fix the blonde, just for better fitting to the sprite ^^
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Post by: RopeSander on October 28, 2009, 05:07:27 pm
I did a re-color with a few other tweaks What do you guys think?
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Post by: Kokojo on October 28, 2009, 05:15:44 pm
Hey, this looks great !
You took the background ''Gold'' armor and put it the same color as the hair, allowing us to change only the skirt ?

Brillant !
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Post by: mav on October 28, 2009, 05:19:22 pm
So now we can have different hair and skirt colors? Fantastic. Should I modify the portraits? All blond, with different colored armor and slightly different colored hoods? Or is it all gold armor, different hair colors, and slightly different hood colors? Blah.
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Post by: Kokojo on October 28, 2009, 05:50:50 pm
I think it is only a skirt difference... mabey you could change only a little of the shirt, Mav ?
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Post by: RopeSander on October 28, 2009, 05:57:01 pm
Sorry, I thought it looked better : /  I was drunk when I wrote this post, for some reason I thought you were sarcastically enthused.  go figure :p ?
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Post by: mav on October 28, 2009, 06:19:37 pm
Technically you can do a lot with the sprite's palette now. There's a very light yellow shade that seems extraneous, if you can drop that, you can probably distinguish her hair and armor from her body. Not to mention that you can give her new skirt colors and hood colors (assuming you utilize palettes like on the Priests--i.e. light palettes).

Okay, here's a 16 color portrait. Technically she's wearing cloth, but it looks like armor...yeah. I can also give her different light colored hoods, which I'll show you on later palettes.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 28, 2009, 08:53:34 pm
Great portrait. Now we can work on the palettes.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 28, 2009, 09:45:35 pm
That purple palettes isn't bad at all. Nice ^^
Looks great ^^
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Post by: mav on October 28, 2009, 10:11:41 pm
Updated previous post to show purples, since it's a drastically underused color...
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 28, 2009, 10:33:34 pm
Very nice mav, though I think that cloth is too armor. Perhaps show her neck more, like the sprite? Then add a little purple cloth below before the end there, perhaps? ^^
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Post by: mav on October 29, 2009, 02:21:03 pm
Hmm...I'll see what I can do.

EDIT: Take a look...
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Post by: RopeSander on October 29, 2009, 03:52:02 pm
Very nice.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 29, 2009, 06:13:05 pm
That fits the sprite better, mav. :P
Okay. Should we finish this already?
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Post by: Kokojo on October 29, 2009, 06:21:38 pm
I vote yes, we should !

But the more work we put into it, the better !
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Post by: mav on October 29, 2009, 07:47:51 pm
Should I showcase some alternate palettes?
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Post by: Saigas on October 29, 2009, 08:17:27 pm
Yes, please. ^_^
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 30, 2009, 01:19:13 am
Yes, yes, that's spot on. Perfect mav ^^
Very nice and yes please, mav.
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Post by: mav on October 30, 2009, 08:18:36 am
Alrighty, I'll hop to it when I get back home later today. They all have to be blond, if I understand correctly, so the hoods and cloth will all have to look different from one another.

EDIT:
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Post by: mav on October 31, 2009, 07:22:35 pm
Shit, edits don't mark topics as new...So here's a bump. Hopefully I ain't breaking any rules...

How do the portraits and palettes look? Note that palette 2 and 4 have different skin colors than each other and all the rest, and that each sprite has a different hood color and robe color, of course.
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Post by: Saigas on October 31, 2009, 08:05:28 pm
I think these are awesome. Great work, Mav!
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 01, 2009, 01:17:07 am
Yes, these are looking great!! Well done mav, well done ^^
One thing, shouldn't her left side of her neck of the transition with her hood and cloth be a little bit darker, since least expose to the light, with that hood blocking? ^^
Anyway, they are great ^^
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Post by: mav on November 01, 2009, 12:19:35 pm
Yeah, I should darken that up a bit, thanks jimmy. Once the sprite is finalized, I'll start working on the portrait in GraphicsGale, so I can put on some finishing touches without editing every portrait manually.

Oh and how many palettes will this sprite have? I made five for the portraits, but supposedly up to 8 can work...
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 02, 2009, 11:41:51 am
Yea, so 3 more palettes ^^
Looks like GraphicGale is much better than GIMP.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on November 02, 2009, 06:00:35 pm
QuoteLooks like GraphicGale is much better than GIMP.

For palette and\for pixel editing, yes.
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Post by: Kokojo on November 02, 2009, 06:45:47 pm
Err yeah, will Ropesanders finish it or should I ?
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on November 02, 2009, 11:22:51 pm
I think you should, kokojo.
It's yar sprite after all.
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Post by: mav on November 03, 2009, 07:18:48 am
Yeah, just take note of any redundancies in the palette and modify accordingly. After the sprite is ready, I can get the portraits up in no time.
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Post by: Kagebunji on November 03, 2009, 10:43:44 am
I like this portrait, it's so cute :).
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Post by: Kokojo on November 08, 2009, 01:16:43 pm
So.... I did the palette judging from a normal squire palette. How does that sound ?
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Post by: mav on November 08, 2009, 02:42:25 pm
Well, I added and modified the portraits to match their respective sprites (i.e. brown clothes, blue, red, green, purple) and added them to the BMP. I didn't test these out in game and I'm not sure how the sprite palettes look either, my only suggestion is to borrow the blues from the male Ninja or something...But the sprite is done. Test away, my good friends! I've attached the BMP and the SPR, so do yo' thang. And if all is fine and dandy, submit it on up, Kokojo.

EDIT: I've fixed the palettes so that they borrow from existing in-game colors. Kokojo, if you're alright with this, I'll attach it. But since it's your sprite, I'll wait for your permission or denial before doing so.
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Post by: Seushiro on November 08, 2009, 09:25:51 pm
testing it. . . like the palette choice too. . . have not fully tested sprite in all conditions yet. . . still at it. . .  so far so good. . .
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Post by: RopeSander on November 08, 2009, 09:39:11 pm
Glad this project is back underway.  Mav, Kokojo, I tip my hat to you.
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Post by: Kokojo on November 08, 2009, 09:43:44 pm
Mav, By all mean, go on. And this isin't ''My sprite''. Sure I worked on it a lot, but it is Auradragon's one, and he wanted it to be top quality! Post it !

I've found several head problems...
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Post by: Jumza on November 08, 2009, 10:33:04 pm
It might just be my imagination but the dress in the back view walking animations seem a little screwy.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 09, 2009, 12:26:05 am
Very nice ^^
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Post by: mav on November 09, 2009, 08:23:07 am
Quote from: "Kokojo"Mav, By all mean, go on. And this isin't ''My sprite''. Sure I worked on it a lot, but it is Auradragon's one, and he wanted it to be top quality! Post it !
Alrighty. Basically all I did was change the values for the hoods and skirts on all the sprites. It should look a little closer to the other jobs in game.

Again, I didn't get a chance to test this yesterday, but I'll see if I can today. Though if any of you guys can, please do...
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 11, 2009, 11:18:30 pm
I see some errors in the sprite still.
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Post by: mav on November 12, 2009, 07:16:19 am
Heheh, yeah...I don't really know how to fix sprites, so I left 'em alone. Hopefully you (or anyone with the necessary abilities) can fix it. It's a gorgeous sprite, after all.
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Post by: Kokojo on November 12, 2009, 11:03:03 am
Hey, since when did you get back on FFH ?

I might finish them, but for now I am quite lazy... or should I say very preoccuped with COP script and others first.
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 12, 2009, 02:11:56 pm
Mmm kay, I'll finish the sprites.  The portrait exceeds my expectations  btw. ;)

And, did you guys bugger with my palette? xD I thought I set it up perfectly in a way that would allow a large amount of variations in different team palettes.  But meh I guess this is what happens when I leave my sprites for almost a year.
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Post by: mav on November 12, 2009, 07:41:24 pm
Hmm, I dunno how much the palette setup changed between versions, but I know all I did was tweak the color choices. Whitish hoods and colored skirts...that's about it.
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 15, 2009, 10:42:09 pm
For those who have forgotten, I've was also working on a female Dark Knight:
Quote from: "AuraDragon"(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/fDK02.gif)(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/fDK01.gif)

And the new portrait for the said female Dark Knight:
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/fDKPort.png)

Female Dark Knight portrait suggestions, comments, criticizm, random flame\troll?

I'm game for any of it. (or I'll just ignore it, as usual)
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Post by: BloodyBlade on November 15, 2009, 10:58:36 pm
This sprite looks real good man. I really like that bow on her.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 16, 2009, 01:07:23 am
Wow...that looks great Aura. Very nice. Is it me or is the blue is bit saturated? Hmm...
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Post by: mav on November 16, 2009, 08:15:18 am
The blue on the portrait is a bit too bright, but overall it looks pretty solid. I'm not a fan of the weird eye holes though...

Was the female Dark Knight completed? I remember seeing Smash's palettes and figured the sprite was essentially done...
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 16, 2009, 08:36:30 am
I think the sprite is done.
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 16, 2009, 01:41:23 pm
Maybe I'll recolor it...

And the sprite isn't done, I have it right here, it needs like 6 or so more pieces to be completed, easy stuff.

Thanks for your hard work on the female Holy Knight portrait mav, it was inspiration to get me to make the above portrait.
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Post by: mav on November 17, 2009, 05:14:08 pm
Hah, good to hear--the sprites in this topic were some of the first sprites I saw on the board, so when Kokojo asked for some portrait help, I jumped at the offer. And I just watched Voldemort's video for your female Dark Knight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qluyz4j3hDI), the sprite looks fantastic. Great work.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 17, 2009, 11:10:08 pm
Yea. Looks great. Well done ^^
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 18, 2009, 09:06:19 pm
Updated, see main page, I'll be posting there to keep this ever growing abyss neat and tidy.

UPDATE: New portraits.  :more:
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Post by: Kokojo on November 19, 2009, 10:27:21 pm
wow very nice new portraits.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 19, 2009, 10:34:06 pm
Wow, that FHK's new portrait is great. Very nice, Aura. I like it ^^
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Post by: mav on November 20, 2009, 08:28:33 am
Awesome portraits, my only suggestion is to work on the upper part of the helmets on the male and female Dark Knights.
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Post by: Cheetah on November 20, 2009, 12:24:08 pm
The new portraits are looking better. For the Male Holy Knight I would recommend reducing the size of his hood even more, especially since he doesn't actually have one. The female Holy Knight is very original looking, and chance of getting the hood in her sprite to match that a bit better.
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Post by: mav on November 20, 2009, 05:02:42 pm
Is it just me, or is the female Holy Knight's right eye one pixel too low?
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Post by: Wasabi on November 20, 2009, 09:09:36 pm
I agree mav, it does seem that way. Maybe the portrait is supposed to emphasize a slight tilt away from the viewer's perspective?
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 20, 2009, 10:34:06 pm
Quote from: "Wasabi"the portrait is supposed to emphasize a slight tilt away from the viewer's perspective

Opposite for the mHK.
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Post by: mav on November 21, 2009, 12:04:05 pm
I figured as much, how close are all the sprites to completion?
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 21, 2009, 03:51:30 pm
fDK = 98% (Need to test)
fHK = ~60% (Needs fixing on a bunch of sprites)
mDK = 99% (Need to tweak, palette maybe?)
mHK = 99% (Need to tweak, palette maybe?)

@fHK : Kokojo n' co. helped alot with adding the pieces onto the sprites, makes my job that much easier.
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Post by: mav on November 21, 2009, 04:18:17 pm
If you need palette creation/corrections, I could help out (assuming you were okay with how I did the colors on the female Holy Knight).
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 27, 2009, 06:18:35 pm
female Dark Knight Release Candidate 1, have fun and don't anyone dare post this on the Site Submission forum, she isn't done yet.

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/fDKDoneRightSample.png)(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/AuraDragon/fDK-1.png)
female Dark Knight Download (http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/11/24/2663787/fDK%20test4.SPR)


QuoteIf you need palette creation/corrections, I could help out (assuming you were okay with how I did the colors on the female Holy Knight).
Thanks but no thanks, I'll manage making palettes on my own.
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Post by: Kokojo on November 27, 2009, 06:32:18 pm
Alright, The whte pixels on the armor head (the Helmet) looks too bright for what they should should be.

On the first frame, there is a grey pixel under the eye that looks like a continuation of the eye and it's weird. The part under the arm makes little sense, the drak line looks wierd.

The second frame shading on the helmet is a bit weird, it misses a pixel on the top.

Thirs frame, weird 2-pixel shading on the side of the helmet, should't they be on top and bottom ?

Fourth Frame, the head looks like it has shrunk a little. The Shadow of the ponytail does not completly follow the pattern it should have. (A little too big). Also the top is the helmet is not black-lined with pixels for X reason ; make them darker if it's the edge ?

Fifth, the ponytail shadow is a bit big, and the helmet is again not that black. The feets are small and should be a little closer.
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 27, 2009, 06:43:48 pm
Thanks. ;) First useful post in this topic in a LONG time.
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Post by: R999 on January 24, 2010, 07:19:06 pm
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Post by: VampragonLord on January 24, 2010, 07:29:03 pm
Quote from: "AuraDragon"female Dark Knight Release Candidate 1, have fun and don't anyone dare post this on the Site Submission forum, she isn't done yet.
Quote from: "R999"I can't seem to find these sprites in the downloads section... Would love to try them out they look great!

yay logic
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Post by: Boxiii on March 26, 2010, 05:39:17 am
Were the male versions ever released?
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Post by: VampragonLord on March 26, 2010, 06:49:03 am
Yes, but theyre hidden in the lair of lies and can only be obtained by going under the bridge and seeking the trolls help.
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Post by: Luiakyn on April 20, 2010, 05:45:35 am
I'm actually looking forward to this one O.o

Any plans on finishing it?
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Post by: DeadManWalking on April 22, 2010, 02:09:18 pm
Doesn't appear to be the case.
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Post by: GeneralStrife on May 21, 2010, 10:50:50 am
Quote from: "DeadManWalking"Doesn't appear to be the case.
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Post by: Knox on May 21, 2010, 12:47:37 pm
Anyone have the male holy knight version? I went back to the one in the site submission forum but the arms act weird when i upload it via shishi.
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Post by: Kagebunji on May 21, 2010, 01:42:22 pm
Ask Koko for this, he has it for 100%. And you probably just pasted this sprite into wrong type.
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Post by: Knox on May 21, 2010, 02:36:36 pm
Who's Koko?

And maybe, but i tried it on multiple characters and it didnt seem to fit right on any of them. That and im not too sure what sprites are what type, i think theres a thread about it but im not too sure.
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Post by: GeneralStrife on May 21, 2010, 02:37:34 pm
Quote from: "Knox"Who's Koko?

And maybe, but i tried it on multiple characters and it didnt seem to fit right on any of them. That and im not too sure what sprites are what type, i think theres a thread about it but im not too sure.

kokojo..hes got the invader zim avatar i think, and cop designer.
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Post by: azavier on December 25, 2015, 01:58:01 am
is their any sprites of the dark knight that has the portrait included in it? i want to use it in my patch but i cant find one with a portrait in it

or at least how could someone tell me how to add the portrait the op created to the sprite

Edit from Toshiko: You've been here long enough to know what the edit button is, not to double post, and heard of Shishi. I am not impressed right now.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight & Holy Knight
Post by: Kokojo on December 25, 2015, 02:21:40 pm
Well you could have messaged me like the last guy did. But here they are, freshly extracted from CoP.
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Post by: 3lric on December 25, 2015, 04:09:02 pm
Dark Knights
http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=7522.msg151812#msg151812
Title: Re: The Dark Knight & Holy Knight
Post by: azavier on December 25, 2015, 05:26:31 pm
Okay , i just emailed you Kokojo, im looking for the costume female knight with the bow and portrait you created
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Post by: Kokojo on December 28, 2015, 02:00:30 am
Here are the dark knights, too.

If I recall correctly, there never was any portraits for the male dark knight. A shame!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight & Holy Knight
Post by: Jumza on December 29, 2015, 12:41:24 pm
What's up with that Male Dark Knight? His portrait is in the middle of the sheet D:
Title: Re: The Dark Knight & Holy Knight
Post by: 3lric on December 29, 2015, 08:25:50 pm
Jumza, you've been here long enough to know that's the old format. Xifanie's Palette Editor can switch it to the new format
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Post by: Jumza on December 29, 2015, 08:37:36 pm
You're right >.< I forgot all about it.