Final Fantasy Hacktics

As per Kage's request I'm begrudgingly making this topic... begrudgingly namely because so many of you guys are busy with other projects. About half of the generic jobs in PW still need new sprites and as much as I dislike bothering you guys, with so many new spriters, I figure it couldn't hurt to ask. Below is a list of each job I need a sprite for and some general background on what they're like in battle and what their themes are.

Male Sniper:
The Sniper uses Bows, Crossbows, and Guns. Their attacks hit with perfect accuracy, and their skills rely on laying Snares- continual attacks that damage enemies and debuff them while possibly Immobilising them, causing them to become trapped in those Snares. Replaces Archers.

CONCEPT: http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/3/32/Ff14-class-archer.jpg

(Minus the hat... hood... thingy.)

Female Berserker:
The Berserker uses Berserk magic to throw enemies into a fury, as well as Berserking themselves to increase their raw power. They also cripple enemies in hand-to-hand combat by breaking their limbs and throwing sand in their foes' eyes to Blind them. Using their bare fists, Beserkers ravage enemy forces. Replaces Monks.

CONCEPT: http://www.spriters-resource.com/snes/chronotrigger/sheet/2511

(Minus the tail, poofy hair, and different color scheme for the fur.)

Male Elementalist:
The Elementalist uses nature to both harm enemies and aid allies, ranging from effects such as damage, to debuffs, to buffing, to healing- all varying on what terrain the Elementalist is on. Replaces Geomancer.

CONCEPT: http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/e/e7/Ffta-moogle-animist.jpg

(Non-moogle, of course.)

Female Elementalist
See Male Elementalist.

CONCEPT: http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/2/21/Ff13-fang.png

Male Performer:
Troubadours whose songs and dances leave enemies enthralled and can aid allies. Like vanilla's Bard and Dancer rolled into one package, with new Songs/Dances. They use Instruments and Carpets as weapons. Replaces Ninja.

CONCEPT: http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/6/63/Arc-Bard.png

Male Psion:
Pyrokinetic, emotionless mages whose magicks manipulate and befuddle enemy forces. Their ability to disrupt enemy thoughts also lend well to crippling enemy mages. Replaces Time Mages.

CONCEPT: http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/1/19/BangaaTrickster.jpg

(Without visor. Human, obviously.)

Female Psion:
See Male Psion.

CONCEPT: http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/a/a8/Psychic_Paine.jpg

(Again, minus the visor.)

Male Sage:
Arbiters of time and space, and keepers of the ultimate magicks, Sages use Gravity, Flare, Meteor, and Ultima as well as other map-wide skills to change the flow of battle. Though their bodies are frail, their magicks can easily destroy enemies. Replaces Calculators.

CONCEPT: http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/5/5e/Dissidia_Onion_Sage.png

Female Sage:
See Male Sage.

CONCEPT: http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/5/5e/TAYPSP-LeonoraSprite.png

(Maybe less baggy sleeves?)

Male Avatar:
Shamans whose contracts with those beyond the veil allow them to summon Espers from Magicite. As the player progresses with the story, they acquire shards of Magicite which allow Avatars to summon monsters to damage enemies and aid allies. Replaces Samurai.

CONCEPT: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110115132338/finalfantasy/images/thumb/7/73/FF3-Evoker.png/250px-FF3-Evoker.png

Female Avatar:
See Male Avatar.

CONCEPT: http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/8/89/Ffta-viera-elementalist.jpg

(If I were to ever write lore for these guys, it'd be that males summon spirits from Magicite by chanting incantations, whereas females would summon them by performing wild, magical dances.)

Female Scholar:
Intelligent mages who specialise in the school of Aero and Bio magicks, as well as are able to remove buffs and debuffs. Replaces Mediators.

CONCEPT: http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/6/65/Hal.jpg
CONCEPT 2: http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/d/df/TAYPSP-HarleySprite.png

Male Mime:
Same as Vanilla's mime.

Male Freelancer and Female Sentinel taken by me. I will do some concepts at a later date.

I want Male psion and female berseker, because I'm stuck with nakoruru's sprite and I need something else to do.

Feel free, guys. Have fun! :P

EDIT: Posted concepts.

EDITRA: Feel free to break away from said concepts if you'd like. This is just kind of how I see them, and, well, I have no taste in sprites. So do what you guys think would look best. :P

I'm no spriter but i realy like the concepts, if the spriters can make somethings like that Parted Ways will be prettier than expected, i loved the sga concept. Anyways, hopes for good sprites, i know you all can.

For the Sages you should try using these as bases:

(http://grond.x10.mx/kasanemEdit.bmp)
http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=1072.1080

Just get rid of his goattee and he will make a great generic. Give him a funny hat if you wish. The arms might be an issue since the attack animations are incomplete, but they might not be that hard.

(http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7483.0;attach=8236;image)

Just do a palette change and maybe a different headswap and she would be pretty perfect and would go with the other guy very well.

Oh man...I will meditate on this.

I even began cleaning up that Sage guy some time ago. He surely would make a great Sage. For the missing part of the sheet Simon/Zalmo could work, just making it a little different. I was a fan of White Noble in the contest(I even voted for it as a third place), so I fully support the idea of making it a female. Perhaps Diil could do it?

Concept for Female Guardian:

(http://i54.tinypic.com/2cmokrq.png)

Main goal was to keep it close to Knight and give some Guardian stuff(the helmet), also to differ her a little more from male, I gave her cute eyes, as opposed to male's angry ones.

That's winning, kage.
I can't see anything I don't like about it at the moment.

Quote from: Kagebunji on August 04, 2011, 12:34:21 pm
Main goal was to keep it close to Knight and give some Guardian stuff(the helmet), also to differ her a little more from male, I gave her cute eyes, as opposed to male's angry ones.

Well that worked because without reading your post I saw the pic and the first thing that stunned me was the feminine face; I hadn't even looked at the dress.

Small update. Reworked the helmet's shading, thanks to Twinees for pointing it out. I will have to do something about back frames, since the hair doesn't blend in too well as you can see. Probably Female Onion Knight will help here.

(http://i53.tinypic.com/105bqzq.png)

It would be nice to see here in a different color than blue, maybe a purple? The hair doesn't need to be gray right?

Metal hair...not sure if sexy.

Is!

Blue is the default first palette, so I am not eager to change it, all I could do is some different shades of blue. There are no more colors, so I cannot do anything else than "metal hair". It was decided earlier on chat that I will hide the hair.

I'm planning to do a small edit in her clothes because it still look like the Lijj's female viking. Any suggestion for clothes??

She is looking a little SD. Hair is too bit and body is too skinny. Her feet look a bit big too. Sorry Wolfran, I'm not a fan of this berserker.

Teh feet. I got a foot fetish and I can safely say those are monsters.

I think I got those clodhoppers from the thief;
don't make fun
jk -
I do like the female Viking with the dress far more but this seems good for a berserker concept
I like the concept and hair Wolfran I can't think of anything though for the clothing. For the hair, maybe it could come in a tad in the back.. but as it is it doesnt bother me.

For the guardian
I think the idea of a plume from the oyo knight could femenize the helmet more..
Good work fellows

(http://bestgamewallpapers.com/files/elder-scrolls-3-morrowind/nord.jpg)
Gentlemen, this is what a Berserker should look like.

Wolfran already did this sprite :).

If anyone feels like doing it, I request a portrait for Female Gurdian (Mav, perhaps you could?), that way I could concentrate on sprite and palettes.

Is there really nothing that can be done about the metal/silver hair? It is driving me nuts.

It is already hidden inside the helmet, Cheetah. I have most of the sprite done, I just don't update it here, I will do it once it is done. All I need is a portrait. Mav, I would be glad if you take a shot at Female too, pretty please bro. :D

Good deal the hair got to me too; hope she gets a cute feather as well.

A feather on helmet? It might be little weird, since feathers should go with hats, and plumes should go with helms. IIRC, Jimmy had a plume on one of his past designs for Knight when Mercenaries were alive, but I wasn't much fan of the plume. For now I will do the current design.

Now should be a nice berseker with that fox head, and smaller feet.
@Kage: Feathers in a helmet is more common than you think, Imo it looks better than plumes.

(http://www.childhoodsdream.co.uk/index.php?option=com_cdream&task=getThumbnailImage&imageid=2369)

Nice work everyone. Keep the concepts coming. :D

The angle of the helmet looks different when compared to the head itself, that's the feeling I have. Could you post a smaller size too? I would like to help you a little with the skin colors etc.

The new avatar I have will be a new character in PW named Quinn. Portrait made by Twinees, great job on this pal.

I know, I just saw it. And the port is very impressive. Cool circlet crown thing. PW will be amazing, no pressure Et.

I love that Wolfran! So good for a berserker.her skin is too yellowish is all.

Update of female elementalist.

ooh fancy

Twinees is just getting so disgustingly good at FFT sprites.

Yes indeed.

Quote from: Cheetah on August 10, 2011, 01:22:02 am
Twinees is just getting so disgustingly good at FFT sprites.

He already is, Cheetah, haha. Great job as always, Twinees.

While hopefully waiting for Mav to do the portrait, Kagebunji decided to mash some portraits together. This is junk, and not meant to take seriously.

LOL uh....it looks strange. THERES A BLOODSUCKING SEASHELL ON HER

Quote from: Kagebunji on August 09, 2011, 03:22:46 pm
The angle of the helmet looks different when compared to the head itself, that's the feeling I have. Could you post a smaller size too? I would like to help you a little with the skin colors etc.

Do whatever you think is better,Kage.

Let us wait till tomorrow, Wolf, heh.

Oh, and Twinees, after looking closer, I noticed that the upper part of hair on Elementalist seem kinda flat, maybe add some shades, highlight etc. there.

Quote from: Kagebunji on August 10, 2011, 01:36:02 pm
Let us wait till tomorrow, Wolf, heh.

Oh, and Twinees, after looking closer, I noticed that the upper part of hair on Elementalist seem kinda flat, maybe add some shades, highlight etc. there.

Tomorrow is here :P and you are right, I will fix the lack of highlights when i work on it next.

After seeing your concept Wolfran, I was inspired to do something of my own but I tried stick to your overall design. The male, on the left, is 14 colours atm (including the background colour) and the female , on the right, is 16 colours (including the background colour). I'm also thinking about changing the colour of the female's wristbands, and I'm not very happy with her skirt, any ideas? I hope everyone likes them.
Once I come up with a good design for the male elementalist, I'll decide which set I should work on first.

*faints from twin's work*

The male looks great =D i would love to have one of those in my party.
The female looks good too, the helm looks great but it seems a little out of place, maybe is the colour or maybe she needs a little more furr in her outfit.

The male looks damn near perfect. I'm not a fan of the clothing style on the female, but it's still pretty nice. For the skirt, I would replace it something akin to a loin cloth. Like Ayla, from Chrono Trigger. Your call though, cause she might end up looking trampy.

Twinees you are killing me, these are just so amazing. Are you officially pursuing a career as a spriter/artist?

Male Berserker: is INSANE. Perfect design, except the monk arm bands need to be blended in just a bit better, because I can still tell they are there. Just a couple pixel changes but that will make the arms pretty tough, but not for you. It would be amazing if the female had a different animal head, but I'm not sure what to use.

Female Elementalist: This is just an amazing sprite. I have no recommendations.

Female Berserker: Yeah it is the right idea but it needs some refinements. So for the skirt I think you should do a long, but divided skirt. Like something a Viera would wear, like this:

(http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/7/73/Ffta-viera-redmage.jpg)

I would also recommend the animal furs be brown instead of tan, so that it doesn't blind with the sin tone as much. Maybe her skirt could also be the fur color and just her top could be brown.

I would stab someone for a Viera sprite, I thought about trying it myself. I remember a pretty bad jap Fran sprite floating around somewhere, still, its better than starting with a blank sheet.

Thankyou everyone for the crits and comments, it has really helped with fixing the female berserkers design. I decided to go with a cheetah look for the hat, rounded ears and slightly different eye sockets. Added more fur, and added Cheetah's suggested for the skirt (ive yet to change the colour but i most likely will) and im down to 13 or 14 colours.

Quote from: Cheetah on August 11, 2011, 01:21:55 am
Twinees you are killing me, these are just so amazing. Are you officially pursuing a career as a spriter/artist?

Male Berserker: is INSANE. Perfect design, except the monk arm bands need to be blended in just a bit better, because I can still tell they are there.

I actually based the male berserker's arm entirely on the bare chested man and i didnt use the male monk as a reference at all :P.
And I'm in my final year of high school still Cheetah, so i still have decided what im going to do :P.

Looks so good :0

I agree. These two deserve to be in your party just because of the sprite, even if the class itself suck.

I'm loving it! Maybe people will actually use Berserkers and Elementalists now! :D

I got pawned on my arm comments haha.

Female berserk looks great now except for some palette changes as you said. Obviously I love the cheetah head as well, the rounded ears make a big difference. You could maybe change the nose so it is a bit shorter to add even more variety.

Man, the two berserkers are simply awesome! Great Job!

Omsa, It's beautiful, Twinn.
I think a tail is not a great idea because the animation in the walking frames could be a really pain in the ass.
And the left ear in the wolf helmet looks like it has a straight cut and the right ear in the female berseker maybe looks better a few pixels to the left and...

Quote from: Cheetah on August 11, 2011, 09:31:59 am
You could maybe change the nose so it is a bit shorter to add even more variety.

Per Et's request:

Here is the spritesheet for Female Guardian. All she needs is a portrait and palettes. It misses few water frames(5 I think), but this will be done swiftly along with palettes.

Excellent work as always, Kage! :D

Quick female. Obviously she isn't as heavily armored........crits please.

Thanks GS, but it looks too much like the male, hehe. I will stab the portrait later, so don't worry.

Awright, man. I was gonna leave some hair from onion port but there is none in the sprite.

Obviously I suck balls compared to you and twin in the port department but I've been 'trying' to get better.

Any help is appreciated. Doesn't hurt to try anyways!

That face is interesting though. But since everything else about it is so close to male's I understand.. It's just good to see you going for it and improving GS.

Thanks Lijj, I knew it still looked too much like the original, it was just a start. I thought I should start with female facial features.

berserker looks epic
squire lv8
+
monk Lv8
+
Knight Lv5
=
Berserker   :more:

There already is a job tree made, ask Eternal or visit PW section for more details.

Berserker Male is 75% made, and portrait done.

Post the portrait, man. I want to see how it is :D

Oh my gosh I want to see it!!

yeah me to!

You have to wait till PW is released, guys, heh.

I finished the male Berserker a few days ago, and have begun working on the female since (once I'm happy with the female's tail it should go a lot faster).
I hope to get the female done before Eternal updates his patch next so he can release the sprites at the same time.
You will just have to wait a bit and play PW to see what it looks like ;)

As usual twin, you will outdo yourself and everyone else, especially judging from that portrait. I thought it was white Barret, heh.

Haha, thanks GS. I will most likely redo Cid too, just to let you know :P.

Quote from: Twinees on August 31, 2011, 03:24:09 am
I will most likely redo Cid too

I came.

Shouldn't this thread be called something in a sub-forum that's titled "Parted Ways Spriting Forum" like Mercenaries had?

It'd help promote PW by giving the patch more depth as opposed to being indulged within the monstrously large Spriting Forum imo (not that there's anything wrong with this section >_>).

Twinees you are killing me with the waiting!! I really liked the old Barret portrait, but this new one is absolutely amazing as well. We really need to think of a decent idea/approach for an FFVII patch just to make a home for all these amazing sprites.

Yeah Wiz, i agree with you in making a sub-forum. But the problem is that the spriting section isnt getting much activity recently (most probably due to the end of summer holidays) so I'm pretty sure a Parted Ways Spriting sub-forum (although it may inspire people to do make some sprite for it) wont receive much activity.

Cheetah, I'm all for making a FFVII patch :P. I'm interested in making events and maps anyway but like you said, we need to think of a decent idea/approach for it. Maybe we can get some in the patches section.

That is something I would actually put my time into, FFVII being my heart and soul of gaming.

That portrait is once again insanely awesome. I feel like you might have overdid the aging and roughness just a bit though and I'm not sure what all the white pixels to the right of his goggles are about.

Yeah maybe we should all butt heads together and see what we can come up with for an FFVII patch.

Quote from: Twinees on September 01, 2011, 05:05:48 am
Cheetah, I'm all for making a FFVII patch :P. I'm interested in making events and maps anyway but like you said, we need to think of a decent idea/approach for it. Maybe we can get some in the patches section.

I would like to help this like hell, i'm  a lover of FFVII :D

I'm not a big fan of FF7 but I think you'll need a bunch of new sprites and fix others to do a good patch.

Thanks to Twinees, Female Guardian has a portrait now. All that is left are palettes. She should be done today.

Um, there has been a sort of lack of updates. Sorry for that. Lately I have been working on Male Cadet, as some may know, but I am still undecided about the legs. Front frames don't look too bad, but back frames are damn bad IMO(I used Delita's pants for this, too bad his pants are baggy...). Could anyone give some suggestions for his legs? I thought of using Knight or DelitaCH2(with leather colors, not metal ofcourse). Any ideas are welcome.

ET still need's a female scholar for PW. Quick Fem scholar tiem

For a frankensprite it is working. I would change colors to those of Male Scholars though, and probably add a scarf(either from Wiggy, Mediator, or Scholar himself) to make it more Scholar like.