Reliquian (Antiquirian) (Update on First Post)

[MiKeMiTchi]

I tested the 5th Male Reliquian palette:
(I did this also for fun)



Oh look at the new Gafgarion! hehe. LOL.
My.. my.. I'll have to test my luck on those gamblers..

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Hey Gambler, look at me! Am I handsome?

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Haaaaaa!! Here's what you get for lying!!!

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Ughh.. let's play dead!

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The sprite works flawlessly so far.
Good job.

[Xifanie]

The palette looks horrible; A greenish shading for grayish clothes? what.

[Asmo X]

Yeah I just assumed that was a work in progress. it looks horrible right now

[mav]

Many thanks Mike, but it looks like there's been some major discoloration, on the sprite at least. It should look more like how it does in this PNG spritesheet. And the interior of the cape looks like it lost the second shade...I'll work on getting LD the BMPs of this, so consider this a work in progress.

Though testing the sprite in game must have been fun...

[MiKeMiTchi]

Well, that can easily be fixed.

[Asmo X]

what is that thing on the reliquian's chest?

[mav]

I believe it's Minwu's strange breast and ab plates, assuming the sprite was designed with this image in mind.

[Asmo X]

I see. I think people need to be more considerate of what parts of a design are and are not going to translate well in sprite form. Right now it looks unintelligible. Think simple designs everyone.

[MiKeMiTchi]

^ Agreed.
In that case, it will be easier to make them.

Although I did like the chest part of the sprite.
It makes the sprite more noticeable.

..and I think, without it, they'll look weaker.

[dwib]

Try changing the breastplate into a belt (a thick belt)
Right now it is way too high and is only a few pixels away from touching the sprite's face.
If you're worried about looking weaker know it is better than looking like you shouldn't be able to move your arms efficiently

[mav]

In an unrelated note, I decided to download Shishi and all that jazz to test out one of the palettes and portraits. Hmm...does the breastplate look a little less irregular on this palette?

Open the spoilers to see the images...

spoiler: "Reliquian Speaking"

spoiler: "Reliquian Charging"

spoiler: "Reliquian Casting"

spoiler: "Reliquian Taking Damage"

I think the portrait looks perfect (it looks like how it does in Paint, etc) and the palette looks correct (as in no color loss; I'm thinking about darkening the palette), though it seems that the sprite itself looks kinda awkward at times. I'd like to hear what you guys think...

[dwib]

the eyes look low while just standing there and charging... you can't even see the Reliquian's left eye when it's charging.
Taking damage looks perfect though wouldn't change a thing

[SplashWoman]

I agree, It seems like the eyes are kind of low in general/the shawl/mask over the mouth is too high.

[Archael]

portrait is perfect but sprite needs work

I was wrong about the in-game, the face needs help ASAP

[mav]

I agree wholeheartedly: I've never been partial to the mask and the eyes tend to get lost quickly, which isn't good...I guess I could work on it...though I'm not much of a spriter.

So should I hold off on finishing the palettes until the sprite is cleaned up, or will it be possible to easily implement those palettes after the sprite has been modified?

[dwib]

I think the mask looks fine... the eyes suck. When you can actually see the eyes it looks like he has down's syndrome... overall it's nice work though, i'm a fan

[Asmo X]

The portrait looks pretty solid to me. I seem to remember someone had a version of the portrait with some different shading that i preferred but the current one is still pretty good. With the sprite, what you really need is for your dark areas to be even darker. Compare the reliquian sprite to the ones around it. It almost looks like it's glowing. The shading needs to go a bit deeper.

[mav]

Alrighty--I'll keep working on the brown palette; I can darken the shadows a bit, thanks for the tip Asmo. And if no one else wants to work on the sprite itself then I'll take a stab at that later. Right now I have the black palette done (took the colors straight from one of the Ninja's palettes, I believe) and the very white one (which I took from one of the Priest's palettes), so hopefully those two will look proper.

EDIT: More of the sprite in action. Now you can see the brown palette modified and one of the other palettes too.

spoiler: "He attacks."

Note how his palette is a bit darker than it was previously.

spoiler: "He attacks some more!"

Hmm...

spoiler: "More Reliquain"

Note the three of 'em, especially the dead one. What do you guys think about this portrait?

spoiler: "He Casts Again..."

Looks like I accidentally painted something white that should have been brown. Better fix that...

spoiler: "He Hurts So Good."

Nothing special, I just like the way the white ones look...

[MiKeMiTchi]

If you'd ask me,
they're fine.

(except for the "He Attacks" pic)

[dwib]

Here is a quick edit of what looks more natural for his face... The original is on the right