Tonberries and Dark Knights

[SentinalBlade]

New Monsters

[Skip Sandwich]

seeing as no one else seems to be stepping up, i figured I start up the discussion myself.

Tonberries
The signature point of the tonberry, to me at least, is how they take several turns to reach you, but when they do, they immediatly start wrecking havoc with painfull attacks like Everyone's Grudge and Knife, and how thier immunity to instant death and gravity attacks forces you to manually cut through thier enormous HP.

So, my innitial idea, stat wise, would put them at somewhere like so

HP: Amazing
MP: Poor
PA: Great
MA: Great
SP: Amazing

Move: 2
Jump: 4
Evasion: 0%

Element: Immune Dark

Innate: Defense UP, Magic defense UP, Damage Split, Meatbone Slash

[boomkick]

Tonberries

HP: Amazing
MP: Poor
PA: 99 (at level 99)
MA: 99 (at level 99)
SP: Amazing

Move: 2
Jump: 4
Evasion: 10%

Element: Immune Dark

Abilities:
Everyone's Grudge- Really BS damage, or Max Hp damage, or Max Hp - Current Hp.
Knife- Unevadable 999 damage and Add: Dead.
Monster Skill- Ultima 2 (yes, really really ****ing strong).

Dark Knight

HP: Moderate
MP: Moderate
PA: Good
MA: Good
SP: Moderate

Move: 3
Jump: 3
Evasion: 15%

Absorb Dark, Weak to Holy.

Night Sword (or you can call it Blood Strike)
Dark Sword (or you can call it Spirit Strike)
Demi (all 3, which includes Gravi 2)
Blood Suck (Sucks Life and applies blood suck, costs MP).

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Tonberry skills
Everyone's Grudge: this, I feel, should become like Lifebreak with an area of 1 (vert 2). As a ranged attack, it should see more use then Knife, though Knife's utterly BS damage should cause the AI to prioitize that move when possible. Also, unlike Knife, this attack is evadable. CT adjusted to accomodate the Tonberry not having innate Short Charge.

Knife: 100% accuate 100% hp damage, non-elemental, not reversed against undead, range 1, vertical 3.

Gravi 2

Return 2

[TRC]

I would contribute, but I suck at this kind of stuff. =/

[MagiTek v1.0]

Tonberry: (all stats at L99)
HP: 700
MP: 100
PA: 99
MA: 80
SP: 6
Mobility: 2M 1J.
Skills:
Knife - Deals damage equal to HP
Everyone's Grudge - Stone, Death, Silence, Frog, -OR- PA+10
Murderous Thrust (from Crisis) - Deals 999 to enemy or deals 699 damage to self.
Lantern - PA +2, MA+2 to all surrounding (3R)

Dark Knight: (all stats at L99)
HP: 400
MP: 150
PA: 50
MA: 50
SP: 9
Mobility: 6M 3J.
Skills:
Bloody Oath - Steals HP
Mage Basher - Steals MP
Darkest Wish - Gives 1/4 of own HP to deal 4 times damage spent.
Soul Eater- Kills self and deals 400 damage to all foes.

[Dome]

Monsters can be recruited?
If they can, dont make tomberry too much imba, otherwise it will break havoc in every battle if recruited xD

[SentinalBlade]

Tonberries are enemy exclusive, and immune to invite

[Dome]

Ah ok then ^_^
Give Them at level 100:
999 hp
1 mp
3 move
3 jump
a good speed

Knife: like a normal attack, does 999 DMG, 100% accurate
Everyone grudge: Random damage (from 1 to 999) range of 4, vertical 3, count like a magic attack to evade it, not counterable xD
and some magic like demi 2 or shit like that (at 0 mp cost)

They are fucking bastards xD

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Dark Knights

General Traits
HP: Great
MP: Good
PA: Great
MA: Great
SP: Good

Move: 4
Jump: 3

Ev%: 50

Innate: Short Charge, Walk on Water, Defense UP, Hamedo

Elements: Immune Holy, Immune Dark, Half Fire, Half Ice, Half Thunder

Status: Immune Poison, Blind, Silence, Zombie, Death, Charm, Confusion; Always Innocent

Monster Skill:

Attacks

1st tier: Black Knight

Cruel Blade: basic physical attack, 25% chance of casting "Rend", range 1v3

*Rend: deals damage equal to TarMaxHP - TarCurHP  (climbhazzard formula)

Lay on Hands: transfer life from self to target ally (wish formula), range 1v3,

Life Tap: absorb 20% of target's max hp. range 5, area 0, ct 4

2nd Tier Gray Devil

Cruel Blade

Blaspheme: evil spell that perverts holy power to smite foes. Deals magical holy damage at MA * 33, range 4, area 1v1, ignores faith, ct 8, may inflict blind

Gift of Chaos: randomly grant Protect, Shell, Haste, or Regen to self or single ally.

3rd Tier  Fallen One

Cruel Blade

Aura Blast: blast nearby targets with unholy power; range 0, area 2v1, dark element magic attack, MA * 21 damage, unevadable, ct 5

Meteor: ultimate black magic that summons a meteor; range 5, area 3v255, non-elemental, ignores faith, ct 15, MA * 50 damage, unevadable.

[psp master]

Tonberry
lv 99
HP 450
MP 200
PA 10
MA 10
speed 20
move 2
jump 2
c-ev 0 %
skills:
chase - has a 100 % chance to move behind the target on the next turn
with monster skill:
Knife - 100 % 999 damage.

[akwikone]

are counter flood and geomancy unused(sorry haven't been keeping up with with SoR), if so you could make a large aoe everyones grudge counter(ala FFVIII), I would suggest dmg_castermaxhp-castercurrenthp for it, if they are being used I vote Domes idea

[SentinalBlade]

Geomancy and counter flood are made into the counter ability "Counter Status" so unfortunatly, that idea is out of the question D:

good idea though, i forgot about that one till you mentioned it.

[SydneySoul]

You can break 999 HP, correct? As seen with the Zodiac monsters having 56,000 HP in someone's patch. So I'd assume crazy HP for a tonberry might be in the low thousands (2500 maybe?) so ??? to display HP.

[SentinalBlade]

actually, im trying my absolute hardest to break the max HP cap. bring it up to 9999, instead of 999, so there wont be need for the ??? stats if you have specific bosses...but making bosses out of normal units will use the ??? system...

If i every get any progress on that...

Anyways, i agree, they should have a high hp, but tonberries are common enemies in several maps, and i only have 2 boss tonberry maps planned.