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Modding => Spriting => Topic started by: Jon on January 15, 2012, 04:13:26 pm

Title: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Jon on January 15, 2012, 04:13:26 pm
(http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz26/jonsbucketsprites/WhiteBlueandGreenChocobos.jpg)
(http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz26/jonsbucketsprites/3Chocobos.png)

White, Blue and Green Chocobo

(http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz26/jonsbucketsprites/Cactuarversion1.jpg)

Cactuar version 1

I kinda already know whats wrong with version 1 Cactuar, so I don't need crits on this one, but I will need crits on version 2. Here is what I have done so far (and please note I am gonna make a brand new dead frame):

(http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz26/jonsbucketsprites/Cactuarv2cleanupwork.png)
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Vanya on January 15, 2012, 05:50:29 pm
Ever consider giving these poor deprived chocobos a proper beak?

I did these a long time ago, but never really finished.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Dome on January 15, 2012, 05:52:43 pm
Dat cactuar is awesome
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Vanya on January 15, 2012, 05:54:34 pm
Quote from: Dome on January 15, 2012, 05:52:43 pm
Dat cactuar is awesome


Agreed. FFT has needed one of those for ages.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Lijj on January 15, 2012, 08:08:23 pm
I was wondering how you oriented the two frame run over the five frame cycle.. simpler than I thought; very interesting.
Thanks for posting here.
Can you make version two less saturated? Especially the portrait.


I really like the blueish-green and gray together on the 3rd palette of the chocobos.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: GeneralStrife on January 15, 2012, 08:33:41 pm
Good to see you jon!
Cactaur is awesome, Good job it took alot of effort I bet.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Mando on January 16, 2012, 03:41:46 pm
Glad to see you back my friend! we should work together on some sprites sometime!! (As you see I finally improved some in spriting :D )
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Xifanie on January 16, 2012, 04:25:54 pm
I'm sorry Vanya, but how are those beaks proper?

Chicken: Brown feathers, brown beak
(http://i-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com/uimages/la/2008_03_19-Chicken.jpg)

Chicken: Black feather, black beak
(http://yiddish-nc.com/pics/black-chicken.jpg)

Ostrich: Black feathers, black beak
(http://www.hedweb.com/animimag/ostrich-head.jpg)

Cardinal: Mostly red feathers, red beak
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ECtN5a3M-ZE/TcTG4HqipBI/AAAAAAAABdo/8LJaqX00Kzk/s1600/cadinal-birds.jpg)


In chicken, feather pigmentation is generally revelant of beak, legs and egg pigmentation as well. The only exception I can think of are white chicken where most races (but not all) will have yellow beaks instead of white. Personally I believe they are giant chickens, but if you think they're ostriches, the same logic applies. Some bird types like eagles will always have a yellow beak, but birds having yellow beaks is a stereotype which is false most of the time. Any human made bird looking product tends to have yellowish beaks for some reason. You could argue a lot of beaks have a yellowish tone but the feather colour to the beak is predominant.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Jon on January 16, 2012, 05:03:54 pm
(http://uirpg.com/resources/charsets/19.png)

Here only the black and green chocobos have a colored beak, but I think the ancient classic chocobos from like the SNES era had different colored beaks that did not match their feathers. I actually personally like the beaks to be the same color as the overall bird, I'm guessing Xif too... Your chocobos do in fact look interesting though Vanya, I could give it a shot. Here are some more classic based ones:

(http://www.freewebs.com/chocoboevolution/hatarakuchocobo.gif)

Edit: Any specific sprites you have in mind Mando? Right now my life is extremely busy but thanks to Raven I finally learned how to use the Palette Editor (which I never could figure out before for some reason) so I'm really enjoying recoloring sprites, and it doesn't take too long...
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Vanya on January 16, 2012, 09:20:24 pm
Quote from: Xifanie on January 16, 2012, 04:25:54 pm
I'm sorry Vanya, but how are those beaks proper?

Chicken: Brown feathers, brown beak
(http://i-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com/uimages/la/2008_03_19-Chicken.jpg)

Chicken: Black feather, black beak
(http://yiddish-nc.com/pics/black-chicken.jpg)

Ostrich: Black feathers, black beak
(http://www.hedweb.com/animimag/ostrich-head.jpg)

Cardinal: Mostly red feathers, red beak
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ECtN5a3M-ZE/TcTG4HqipBI/AAAAAAAABdo/8LJaqX00Kzk/s1600/cadinal-birds.jpg)


In chicken, feather pigmentation is generally revelant of beak, legs and egg pigmentation as well. The only exception I can think of are white chicken where most races (but not all) will have yellow beaks instead of white. Personally I believe they are giant chickens, but if you think they're ostriches, the same logic applies. Some bird types like eagles will always have a yellow beak, but birds having yellow beaks is a stereotype which is false most of the time. Any human made bird looking product tends to have yellowish beaks for some reason. You could argue a lot of beaks have a yellowish tone but the feather colour to the beak is predominant.


Don't take my use of the word proper so literally. I meant proper as in having a distinguishable beak at all as opposed to the FFT way of not bothering to differentiate it with even so much as a line to show where the feathers end. And I never said mine were proper. My bad if I seemed to be imply that that were. <3

@Jon: Thanks. :)
Those aren't the only ones I did I have a whole crapload based on the original palettes from all the old games directly. I can post them on my deviantART account if you want to see them.

EDIT: In fact, I think I'm going to ga ahead and do that anyway. I should put as much of my work up there as possible.

EDIT: Here they are: http://lordvanya.deviantart.com/gallery/34788193
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: RandMuadDib on January 17, 2012, 05:01:35 pm
LOL LOVE BOO BERRY! is there a finished sheet for him somewhere or was it just those couple frames?
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Jon on January 21, 2012, 12:46:01 pm
Wow, not bad at all Vanya! I wonder if people here are interested in recolored sprites, I certainly am! I like the Hydras strangely the best, the Ghost called Boo Berry is cool too but I don't know where that's from...

The second sheet is FF 7 Chocobos! These are by far the coolest imho. You're choice of colors are like exactly like the ones in 7. Only 2 small nit picks, the first regular chocobo looks somehow actually bland and the black chocobo could be slightly darker...other than that awesome! :mrgreen:

If only there was some Chocobo Ranch and chocobo raising going on in FFT...not just plop, egg, random bird... :/
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: RandMuadDib on January 21, 2012, 03:31:58 pm
Boo berry is a cereal, along with frankenberry and count chocula.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: 3lric on January 21, 2012, 04:06:48 pm
Jon, I really like those chocobo colors, I may some use for those :D
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on January 21, 2012, 04:38:12 pm
Could you make the white chocobo a little less gray?
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: 3lric on January 22, 2012, 02:14:05 am
Can you send me the sheet you have with those 3 palettes?
I really like the White one  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Jon on January 23, 2012, 09:12:22 am
Quote from: Elric42 on January 22, 2012, 02:14:05 am
Can you send me the sheet you have with those 3 palettes?
I really like the White one  :mrgreen:


Its attached now, yeah didn't realize that every time you simply upload a BMP to Photobucket it becomes a JPEG...

Quote from: Pickle Girl Fanboy on January 21, 2012, 04:38:12 pm
Could you make the white chocobo a little less gray?


Okay, next post/edit will be a less gray, whiter version...should be easy enough...

Quote from: RandMuadDib on January 21, 2012, 03:31:58 pm
Boo berry is a cereal, along with frankenberry and count chocula.


Haha, I see...


EDIT: Now you can compare the newer, whiter Chocobo to the older one and pick whichever one you like better. I honestly like the older sprites colors better (the darker whites and grays) but the new portrait is more accurate. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Jon on January 23, 2012, 09:47:26 am
Double post!!

I took Vanya's Black Chocobo and I changed its beak around so it looks more like a full beak and a little less like I guess a parrot's. I think that the original one looked almost as if it didn't have a lower beak and just went into its feather colors. Dunno, you guys decide.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: GeneralStrife on January 23, 2012, 09:52:57 am
huh. I think I like it, but it's weirding me out just because I think we are so used to a seamless beak area.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Kagebunji on January 23, 2012, 09:58:45 am
I like it, looks more proffesional than the old one. Though it does look weird, given how FFT beaks were all same color with body.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Choto on January 23, 2012, 10:10:52 am
maybe making the legs/beak a little darker to blend a little better with the color of the body would make it seem a little less of a shock given that people are SO used to seeing all the same color. Nice to see more of vanilla FFT being evaluated though :)
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: 3lric on January 23, 2012, 10:35:58 am
Very nice job. If you end up doing the original chocobo sheet (yellow, black, red) with those beaks I will definitely use them (as well as the other ones you did, but they are for something else  :mrgreen:)
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Vanya on January 23, 2012, 11:04:58 pm
Quote from: Choto on January 23, 2012, 10:10:52 am
maybe making the legs/beak a little darker to blend a little better with the color of the body would make it seem a little less of a shock given that people are SO used to seeing all the same color. Nice to see more of vanilla FFT being evaluated though :)


This.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: GeneralStrife on January 23, 2012, 11:09:57 pm
But the beak is using the same colors as the feet it seems like. How many colors can be sacrificed?
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on January 24, 2012, 12:49:50 pm
Whiter white chocobo looks a lot better.  Could you work a little light blue into it?  Like, icy blue-white, with more white than blue on the glossy sheen parts of it's feathers, with a little darker blue on the shadowy parts?  And it needs blue eyes too.

One other thing, could you make an actual "Black" black chocobo, using dark grays and blues?
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Jon on January 24, 2012, 03:47:58 pm
Yeah, I can make the White Chocobo have blue eyes and icy blue wing tips and darkish blue dark areas, and I could make a better Black Chocobo than that! Instead of dark grays and blues why not blacks which turn into really dark grays as it gets lighter...actions speak louder than words, I'll post something soon.

Edit: I made this a while ago, might be too dark but don't judge it because of the black background, it might actually look good in game, I dunno...
(http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz26/jonsbucketsprites/blackchocobo.png)

This isn't the one I was talking about up above, just a random one I made and thought might be interesting as a base...it has really dark blue hues, seems to work okayish...
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on January 24, 2012, 05:28:15 pm
Looks pretty good.  Make sure you keep the whites of it's eyes the color they're supposed to be.

If you want to preview it, temporarily change the 00/00/00 black - which is transparency - into 255/255/255 white.

Took a closer look at the dark chocobo.  It looks very dark purple, not an actual black.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Jon on January 24, 2012, 08:55:27 pm
You're right- the eyes lost the whites! XD

Eternal suggested that I make the eyes red and make some kinda demonic chocobo outta her...I'm gonna make a new sheet tomorrow with new colors, was thinking black (new and better), gold and maybe use the purplish one you can see in Shishi that never got used (you can only see it under one of the portraits). For black I'm not sure but prolly something like 00red, 00green and like very, very dark blue...I'll think of something...
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: 3lric on January 24, 2012, 09:21:32 pm
Quote from: Jon on January 24, 2012, 08:55:27 pm
You're right- the eyes lost the whites! XD

Eternal suggested that I make the eyes red and make some kinda demonic chocobo outta her...


You should also do the white one with Red Eyes  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Vanya on January 24, 2012, 11:37:00 pm
Quote from: GeneralStrife on January 23, 2012, 11:09:57 pm
But the beak is using the same colors as the feet it seems like. How many colors can be sacrificed?


Not sure what you mean.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: GeneralStrife on January 24, 2012, 11:48:11 pm
Quote from: Vanya on January 24, 2012, 11:37:00 pm
Not sure what you mean.

I must have been on a natural high or something when I wrote that, I ment to say the beak jon did was sharing colors with the feet.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: RavenOfRazgriz on January 25, 2012, 01:56:13 am
Quote from: GeneralStrife on January 24, 2012, 11:48:11 pm
I must have been on a natural high or something when I wrote that, I ment to say the beak jon did was sharing colors with the feet.


I'm not seeing any problem with that.  That's how most birds operate, really, as far as I can remember...
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: GeneralStrife on January 25, 2012, 02:13:31 am
The point was he wanted the beak to be darker, and the feet would have been affected too.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Jon on January 25, 2012, 07:13:19 am
I'm making 2 sheets now with 6 Chocobos altogether, first one is the traditional FF 4 types, so the normal yellow (unedited), white and black chocobos, and the black one came out pretty good I guess. Is it a tad too gray though? It might be hard to see due to the black background but I hope its good. Reminds me a bit of the Hydras...
The second sheet I'll work on isn't done yet but it'll be blue, green and gold. Here's the first sheet attached:
Edit: Got rid of the weird white chocobo...
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Twinees on January 25, 2012, 08:15:18 am
Yes, that black chocobo is much, MUCH, better than previous one, the shades of black are better spread out. Great job. I also prefer your first white chocobo sprite colours than any of the others, but prefer the portrait for the white one you are using atm.

The blue and green chocobo sprites are quite dark, and the colours are blending a lot. Try to make the colours further apart from each other like you have done for the white/grey chocobo.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Mando on January 25, 2012, 09:11:06 am
I'll try my hand at these later, they still look a bit off to me.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Jon on January 25, 2012, 09:59:04 am
Quote from: Mando on January 25, 2012, 09:11:06 am
I'll try my hand at these later, they still look a bit off to me.

You don't like the black one? I'm not sure how you can make it blacker than that and not go into the background, oh well...

I think the blue one is the real problem. Here are the (new) blue, green and gold chocobos:
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Mando on January 25, 2012, 11:50:08 am
The black one isn't too bad but the white one appears to be a bad blue of sorts. Why not try using the dragon colors I have on my sprite page? I'm at work so I cannot do it right n but you maybe able to beat m to the punch.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on January 25, 2012, 12:33:29 pm
Black is excellent!  White could stand a little more white, and slightly less blue.  Blue and Green need to be seen in a battlefield, next to vanilla chocobos.  Gold looks good, but I really wish we had a sparkle effect, or even a glittering mist that could float over it.

When I messed around with Chocobos a long time ago, I documented the ratios between R/G/B for each of the vanilla birds, and then switched the colors around.  IIRC, Red Chocobo color ratio was a pain, and Black Chocobo color ratio looked weird.  Only Yellow Chocobo color ratio worked for me.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Jon on January 25, 2012, 03:13:13 pm
Hmm, I think I'll definitely redo blue and green and base them more on these two with brown legs:

(http://www.ffonline.com/1_ff7gfx/chocobo-blue.gif)
(http://www.ffonline.com/1_ff7gfx/chocobo-green.gif)


Edit: Wait WTF?? Which version is the right one?! Now the green has green legs?!

(http://s3.hubimg.com/u/4131354_f496.jpg)
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Joseph Strife on January 25, 2012, 03:59:26 pm
The second version is the right one, i remember them from FF7, they were light green on body and dark green on legs, same goes for blue and gold.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on January 25, 2012, 04:29:38 pm
I think the feather color is the dominant one.  Go check the chocobo races, to be sure.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Jon on January 25, 2012, 06:38:46 pm
So technically my blue and gold ones are correct? They both have darker legs, the green one has more or less identical legs to its body colors. Both are in FF7, one is the stable version(above ones), the other (below and big green) is the racing and over world version I think...
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on January 25, 2012, 06:45:52 pm
Leg color = feather color, often darker, sometimes with some brown thrown in.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Jon on January 25, 2012, 06:55:31 pm
Right now I'm honestly only 100% happy with the white and black chocobos. The first white one (that looks a tad gray in the darker areas) and the 2nd portrait seen nearly on all the sprite sheets. So all I should do is make the legs a bit darker on blue/green/gold? No problem, gonna post it soon or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Joseph Strife on January 25, 2012, 07:06:19 pm
i think you could simply make the body of the green and the bluen lighter, like the second pic. Light green and light bluen on the body and a little darker on the legs.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on January 25, 2012, 07:32:40 pm
Quote from: Joseph Strife on January 25, 2012, 07:06:19 pm
i think you could simply make the body of the green and the bluen lighter, like the second pic. Light green and light bluen on the body and a little darker on the legs.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Vanya on January 25, 2012, 09:10:12 pm
Quote from: Joseph Strife on January 25, 2012, 03:59:26 pm
The second version is the right one, i remember them from FF7, they were light green on body and dark green on legs, same goes for blue and gold.


Quote from: Pickle Girl Fanboy on January 25, 2012, 04:29:38 pm
I think the feather color is the dominant one.  Go check the chocobo races, to be sure.


Technically they're both correct. Both versions appear in the game in different places. The map, ranch, and race chocobos all use different models. I think the battle chickens use the same model as the ones on the ranch.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Joseph Strife on January 25, 2012, 09:15:36 pm
Quote from: Vanya on January 25, 2012, 09:10:12 pm
Technically they're both correct. Both versions appear in the game in different places. The map, ranch, and race chocobos all use different models. I think the battle chickens use the same model as the ones on the ranch.

Yes, that's right, battle ones are the same as the ranch ones.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Mando on January 25, 2012, 10:12:25 pm
Well, I'm by no means following "traditional colors" because to be quite honest I could care less about that. I do not think some colors will translate well period in terms of eye appeal.

Here is my version of the chocobo sprite recolored, started with blue. The colors are Blue, Green, White, Yellow, Black, and Red. The red portrait came out the worst, red is very hard to get correct and looking good... when it is the ONLY color.

Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Durbs on January 25, 2012, 10:15:35 pm
Quote from: Mando on January 25, 2012, 10:12:25 pm
Well, I'm by no means following "traditional colors" because to be quite honest I could care less about that. I do not think some colors will translate well period in terms of eye appeal.

Here is my version of the chocobo sprite recolored, started with blue. The colors are Blue, Green, White, Yellow, Black, and Red. The red portrait came out the worst, red is very hard to get correct and looking good... when it is the ONLY color.


Much better choice of blue. :mrgreen: Red is still... odd, but the others are nice.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: 3lric on January 25, 2012, 10:18:07 pm
These are very nice Mando, tho the green is a bit to much Olive colored in my opinion. but the rest are great
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Xifanie on January 25, 2012, 10:33:52 pm
I edited the red portrait a bit... it's just because you didn't aim to go "browner" for the darker reds mando.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Mando on January 25, 2012, 10:34:32 pm
Fixed the red, added another version of the white. The second version of the white is a bit more silverish
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Lijj on January 26, 2012, 02:10:53 am
Figured I'd join in on the chocobo recoloring party:
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: RavenOfRazgriz on January 26, 2012, 02:25:06 am
Topic: Jon's New Sprites ALL THE CHOCOBOS.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Lijj on January 26, 2012, 02:35:13 am
heheh. sorry but..

We needed a flamingo colored chocobo around here, there's no doubt about it.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Joseph Strife on January 26, 2012, 08:02:50 am
So many chocobos, don't know where to start :?

@Mando
Yes, your chocobos are looking good, except for the green one, it looks to much olive, like elric said, try another green.

@Lijj
I liked them all, even that flamingo one XD, looks very professional, same goes for mando.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Mando on January 26, 2012, 09:07:36 am
Ok here is the final one I've put together. Essentially I've merged some of mine and lijj's together. So that most of the colored chocobos would appear in one sheet. People can change the order themselves.

Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Kagebunji on January 26, 2012, 09:40:44 am
Quote from: RavenOfRazgriz on January 26, 2012, 02:25:06 am
Topic: Jon's New Sprites ALL THE CHOCOBOS.
Title: Re: Jon's New Sprites
Post by: Jon on January 26, 2012, 09:43:19 am
Wow, so many! Didn't know you guys loved chocobos so much too!

@Mando: I like your last post the best obviously, I think you got the blue one the way I was aiming to do it! Good job! I don't like the white one on the last post you made but the second one on the second to last post you made, those colors look much better imho. The green and pink ones look awesome too!

@Lijj: I seriously like all of them, some remind me of the "unknown, unnamed" chocobos you see in the chocobo races in 7. Only one problem is that the black chocobos portrait isn't dark enough, it looks kinda like dark gray...

@Everyone: Gonna rename this thread like Raven said! And I still like (just my opinion) my black the best, all the others from Lijj and Mando beat my other ones though...excellent work everyone! :mrgreen: Let's keep making more monsters! (at least recoloring)

Edit: I think we need more chocobos, yes more more more! Even if its just 1 recolor, post it people! Maybe a rainbow colored chocobo or other new ideas, anything! Post away! :D
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: GeneralStrife on January 26, 2012, 09:47:24 am
are chocobos the new ponies? these are good recolors, but uh I think we got it covered now!
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Jon on January 26, 2012, 09:56:00 am
Quote from: GeneralStrife on January 26, 2012, 09:47:24 am
are chocobos the new ponies? these are good recolors, but uh I think we got it covered now!


IT IS NEVER COVERED!! MAKE MOAR CHOCOBOS!!
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on January 26, 2012, 12:10:21 pm
Someone needs to make a chocobo battle chicken coloring book.  Seriously.

RAINBOW RAINBOW RAINBOW

We need a hot pink chocobo, as well as some neon green and yellow ones.  Perhaps a themed chocobo party is in order.  Maybe a red, white, and blue one, or whatever you nation's (and/or favorite soccer club's) flag colors are.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Kaijyuu on January 26, 2012, 12:15:09 pm
We need chocobos turned into ponies.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Kagebunji on January 26, 2012, 12:27:00 pm
Quote from: Kaijyuu on January 26, 2012, 12:15:09 pm
We need chocobos turned into ponies.


Keep this shit away from FFT please. I do not approve this -.-
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on January 26, 2012, 12:54:09 pm
Ponies, please!
Or better yet, turn them into Chocokins.
Or an armored chocobo...
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: 3lric on January 26, 2012, 01:35:24 pm
Quote from: MiKeMiTchi on January 26, 2012, 12:54:09 pm
Or an armored chocobo...
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Jon on January 26, 2012, 02:06:29 pm
Quote from: Kaijyuu on January 26, 2012, 12:15:09 pm
We need chocobos turned into ponies.


Quote from: MiKeMiTchi on January 26, 2012, 12:54:09 pm
Ponies, please!
Or better yet, turn them into Chocokins.
Or an armored chocobo...


WHAT IS THIS?!!!
(http://i41.tinypic.com/15o78fq.png)
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Joseph Strife on January 26, 2012, 03:05:33 pm
Quote from: MiKeMiTchi on January 26, 2012, 12:54:09 pm
Or an armored chocobo...

That would be awesome.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Lijj on January 26, 2012, 07:20:48 pm
Awesome Mando, I like the denim colored chocobo and the consolidated palette choices. Anyone using these along with Wiz's palette dropping tutorial in the 6 pack can make them in any order they please with ease.

Armored chocobos would be awesome.. and probably not that hard to do since they work frame by frame in Shishis.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Twinees on January 26, 2012, 11:08:55 pm
Quote from: Kaijyuu on January 26, 2012, 12:15:09 pm
We need chocobos turned into ponies.


No. I will not allow this.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Vanya on January 27, 2012, 04:51:45 am
Quote from: MiKeMiTchi on January 26, 2012, 12:54:09 pm
Ponies, please!
Or better yet, turn them into Chocokins.
Or an armored chocobo...


A couple of years ago I was working on an armored chocobo for cut scenes since I didn't like them not matching the FMVs. SO I think that would be a great thing for someone to do ... especially since mine are gone.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: GeneralStrife on January 27, 2012, 05:06:47 am
Quote from: Vanya on January 27, 2012, 04:51:45 am
A couple of years ago I was working on an armored chocobo for cut scenes since I didn't like them not matching the FMVs. SO I think that would be a great thing for someone to do ... especially since mine are gone.

Don't even have the concept or something? I know there's an armored chocobo portrait on my HDD somewhere..
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Jon on January 27, 2012, 08:57:16 am
Is this red one any good?

Edit: How do you make those preview shots Mando? Like you have just like me a few palettes per sprite, but you can show all of them in one pic, how???
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Joseph Strife on January 27, 2012, 09:50:14 am
The colors a bit strange for me, i think lijj's red one is the best so far. Try something more "alive", like a flaming red or something near.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Mando on January 27, 2012, 09:52:09 am
Well, lijj's version has some orange red parts in it as well that makes a huge difference
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Jon on January 27, 2012, 10:18:40 am
How do you (Lijj and Mando I mean) make those previews? Like on page 3, in your first post, the second picture Mando, like that I mean...?
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on January 27, 2012, 11:46:10 am
I like your red, but I agree, a brighter red might be cooler.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Jon on January 27, 2012, 12:48:11 pm
Yeah, Mando has an excellent red on his last post one page back. I think if its okay I'll borrow his colors and give them the same color feet but darker...next post! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Kagebunji on January 27, 2012, 01:25:33 pm
Just download palette editor, and open the Chocobo in it, there will be option to make all kinda previews.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Jon on January 27, 2012, 03:40:36 pm
Thanks, I have Palette Editor I just didn't know you could make a preview in that program, checking...
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: 3lric on January 27, 2012, 04:31:41 pm
Quote from: Kagebunji on January 27, 2012, 01:25:33 pm
Just download palette editor, and open the Chocobo in it, there will be option to make all kinda previews.


Maybe I'm a tard but I have never seen that in Palette Editor O.o 
I just checked and couldn't find an option to do so either, Kage, which version of Palette Editor do you have??
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Jon on January 27, 2012, 05:15:13 pm
Quote from: Elric42 on January 27, 2012, 04:31:41 pm
Maybe I'm a tard but I have never seen that in Palette Editor O.o  
I just checked and couldn't find an option to do so either, Kage, which version of Palette Editor do you have??


Yeah, its not there, I can't make previews. Maybe only Lijj and Mando know how to do it?

Update, lighter green chocobo with darker green legs, lighter blue with dark blue legs. I'm trying to stay as close to FF VII as possible! Hope you like it!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Kagebunji on January 27, 2012, 05:23:09 pm
Open a sheet in Palette Editor, highlight the the option you want (example: Basic Monster Sheet) and click save once the image shows itself.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: 3lric on January 27, 2012, 05:32:24 pm
Quote from: Kagebunji on January 27, 2012, 05:23:09 pm
Open a sheet in Palette Editor, highlight the the option you want (example: Basic Monster Sheet) and click save once the image shows itself.

Yea, I must totally suck, cause I don't even get those options :P

And Jon very nice :D I'm loving all these variations of different colors,
EDIT: Nvm I lost my scripts folder, that was the cause XD
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Jon on January 27, 2012, 05:46:21 pm
I don't get it either, what version you on Kage? Post a screen shot how to do it?
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Jon on January 27, 2012, 05:54:48 pm
Thanks Kage and Elric, got it working now:
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Joseph Strife on January 27, 2012, 06:11:27 pm
Green looks very nice, very very nice, blue too, but i think the contrast between the legs and the body is too much now, make those legs with a little lighter green and that should do it.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on January 27, 2012, 07:23:46 pm
Aw yeah, blue looks good.  Like a blue popsicle, just the way I like my battle chickens.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Vanya on January 28, 2012, 12:48:36 am
Quote from: GeneralStrife on January 27, 2012, 05:06:47 am
Don't even have the concept or something? I know there's an armored chocobo portrait on my HDD somewhere..


IIRC I was working off the artwork from one of the newer main FF games. X maybe or something.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Jon on January 28, 2012, 08:11:08 am
Yellow, Black and Gold update, they also have colorful legs (not brown or anything). I honestly think Black and Gold chocobos must have the same color legs or they don't look right:
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Joseph Strife on January 28, 2012, 08:17:08 am
Black is awesome, i like it very much.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Lijj on January 28, 2012, 08:20:56 am
Nice black, you were right about mine being too grey. Damn We need some in couerl colors.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Jon on January 28, 2012, 10:28:01 am
Thanks! Black is really easy to do, start with their darkest color being 1, 1, 1 and then the second darkest being 3, 3, 3 and continue upwards til the lightest color only by 1 each time, so 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, etc. :mrgreen:

Btw, that black is my favorite chocobo I ever made!
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: MysticKnightFF5 on January 28, 2012, 12:08:19 pm
I don't even know what to say to this awesomeness.
So I won't.
...
...
Seriously though, darken the beaks a little...too ostentatious.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: mav on January 28, 2012, 12:25:15 pm
There are some pretty nice ones here. Way before I realized hacking FFT existed, I had created some custom Chocobo palettes myself. I was always a fan of them looking natural in both FFT's setting as well as in the wild. Like, how would a black Chocobo be purple and survive in the wild? It's beyond me. I made a brownish/black palette, a jade green palette (much like Lijj's), and a less pink red one. It's been a decade, so those are long gone.

Back on topic though, I like these a lot. We should take the best 8 and submit em as one sheet. And be careful on the portraits, guys. Some of them look like they've lost depth, cause the shades are too close in color to one another.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Jon on January 29, 2012, 06:51:32 am
I see what you mean about the portraits, didn't realize that! Yeah, compare the gold to the standard yellow and his head looks like one big orange color...gotta change that...

Should we kinda vote for which chocobos should be on this 8 palette sheet to submit? I vote only my black one please, I think the rest should be obviously the standard yellow and Lijj's/Mando's versions.

Anyone think the gold one I did is a tad too saturated? I seriously wonder how it would look in game...
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Lijj on January 29, 2012, 07:35:54 pm
I would like your black included, Mando's denim blue and my red and white (the second one). Those are the one I really like. Denim makes a good palette one. But really everyone probably has their own taste so I'd suggest just grabbing the ones you want for your own personal sheet. But be aware of the ones, as mav said, with portraits having lack of depth on some.
The other's maybe the green idk.. flamingo pink maybe.

Mav, that's pretty funny that you did that so long ago.. pretty cool!
I had a dream soo long ago... maybe 2 yrs after the game came out that FFT was pvp and you could pick each unit's color.

Also, yeah the gold one super is bright.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Jon on January 30, 2012, 07:37:31 am
Oh yeah, well the sprite sheet should probably be (not in this order except for yellow):

Yellow, White, Blue, Green, Black, Red, Gold, and maybe then Pink lol

Almost like the colors of the rainbow (Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo, Violet)....
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: RandMuadDib on January 30, 2012, 07:23:28 pm
Quote from: Vanya on January 28, 2012, 12:48:36 am
IIRC I was working off the artwork from one of the newer main FF games. X maybe or something.


Probably 12?
Quote from: Jon on January 30, 2012, 07:37:31 am
Almost like the colors of the rainbow (Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo, Violet)....


I thought they took indigo out of the rainbow, like demoting pluto to a trans-neptunian object?
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on January 30, 2012, 09:23:45 pm
I see a marked lack of rainbow colored chocobos.  Yes, I mean a single chocobo, rainbow colored.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: MysticKnightFF5 on January 30, 2012, 11:53:38 pm
Because that's a single task with so few colors.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Jon on February 01, 2012, 12:29:29 pm
I'll show you why it hasn't been made!
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Xifanie on February 01, 2012, 01:11:44 pm
(http://xifanie.ffhacktics.com/rainbow_chocobow.gif)
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Kokojo on February 01, 2012, 01:16:25 pm
Fuck CoP.
I am now making the adventures of the rainbocobo
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Jon on February 01, 2012, 01:54:13 pm
Somehow I find the head banging chocobo scary XD
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on February 01, 2012, 03:36:40 pm
What about plaid?
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Dome on February 01, 2012, 03:39:24 pm
Quote from: Kokojo on February 01, 2012, 01:16:25 pm
Fuck CoP.
I am now making the adventures of the rainbocobo

A chocobo-only patch would be a nice spoof patch to have xD
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on February 01, 2012, 03:41:29 pm
Chocobo Fantasy Battle Chicken: Final Tactics
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Dome on February 01, 2012, 03:43:43 pm
Gaffgarion will be replaced by a Black chocobo
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: 3lric on February 01, 2012, 03:51:14 pm
Quote from: Kokojo on February 01, 2012, 01:16:25 pm
Fuck CoP.
I am now making the adventures of the rainbocobo

I would play this  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Joseph Strife on February 01, 2012, 04:41:24 pm
Quote from: Dome on February 01, 2012, 03:39:24 pm
A chocobo-only patch would be a nice spoof patch to have xD

Quote from: Dome on February 01, 2012, 03:43:43 pm
Gaffgarion will be replaced by a Black chocobo

This should go here: http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=7675.0

Quote from: Elric42 on February 01, 2012, 03:51:14 pm
I would play this  :mrgreen:

And yes, i would too XD
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Jon on February 01, 2012, 06:09:59 pm
I actually tried doing plaid after you said that you'd like to see one, any ideas? I failed miserably. Describe what you'd expect to see for plaid please!
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on February 01, 2012, 06:44:19 pm
Screw plaid, let's see a green and red xmas battle chicken.

Every year, on the Eve of Saggittarius the 30th, Kanbabrif mounts his airship with red and green chocobos, which pull it across the night sky of Ivalice.  While he flies, he dispenses justice upon the wicked and drops candied frogs down upon the righteous.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Lijj on February 01, 2012, 07:14:37 pm
Quote from: Xifanie on February 01, 2012, 01:11:44 pm
(http://xifanie.ffhacktics.com/rainbow_chocobow.gif)
^^^^ U RULE
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: 3lric on February 01, 2012, 08:12:12 pm
Quote from: Pickle Girl Fanboy on February 01, 2012, 06:44:19 pm
Screw plaid, let's see a green and red xmas battle chicken.

Every year, on the Eve of Saggittarius the 30th, Kanbabrif mounts his airship with red and green chocobos, which pull it across the night sky of Ivalice.  While he flies, he dispenses justice upon the wicked and drops candied frogs down upon the righteous.


..Could I buy some pot off of you?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on February 01, 2012, 09:00:49 pm
I don't drink, smoke, do drugs, or drink coffee.  And enough off topic, TO THE BATTLE CHICKENS!
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: DarkShade on February 01, 2012, 10:20:35 pm
it looks more like someone is seeing a chocobo in a thermal scope or device. there is just to much red, orange and yellow. still its okay.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Vanya on February 02, 2012, 03:17:44 am
Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is pure win, Xif. :D

PS- I would totally support "Chocobo Fantasy Battle Chicken: Final Tactics".
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Taichii on February 02, 2012, 04:25:49 am
Quote from: Kokojo on February 01, 2012, 01:16:25 pm
Fuck CoP.
I am now making the adventures of the rainbocobo


EPIC XD
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Celdia on February 02, 2012, 05:55:57 am
Quote from: Elric42 on February 01, 2012, 08:12:12 pm
..Could I buy some pot off of you?  :mrgreen:
Quote from: Pickle Girl Fanboy on February 01, 2012, 09:00:49 pm
I don't drink, smoke, do drugs, or drink coffee. 


Just think about that. PGF is this kind of fucking crazy when entirely sober.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Lijj on February 02, 2012, 09:05:01 am
^
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on February 02, 2012, 08:47:00 pm
Quote from: Vanya on February 02, 2012, 03:17:44 amPS- I would totally support "Chocobo Fantasy Battle Chicken: Final Tactics".


Quote from: Celdia on February 02, 2012, 05:55:57 amJust think about that. PGF is this kind of fucking crazy when entirely sober.

Yeah, I don't have many friends.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: 3lric on February 04, 2012, 06:41:12 pm
Quote from: Pickle Girl Fanboy on February 02, 2012, 08:47:00 pm
Yeah, I don't have many friends.


I'll be your friend PGF :P

If you don't mind me smoking this joint right mere.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on February 04, 2012, 07:16:00 pm
As long as I don't have to join in right meow.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: 3lric on February 04, 2012, 07:21:51 pm
hahaha
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Joseph Strife on February 04, 2012, 09:27:33 pm
Quote from: Pickle Girl Fanboy on February 01, 2012, 09:00:49 pm
I don't drink, smoke, do drugs, or drink coffee.

And i thought i was the only one like this, except for the drink, i like some beer sometimes. :D
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Lijj on February 05, 2012, 05:29:31 am
Interesting. So it's the ones that do smoke around here who actually do stuff. The ones who don't just post crazy ideas about hacking or complain about us people who do stuff saying it isn't enough.
Title: Re: ALL THE CHOCOBOS
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on February 05, 2012, 01:09:00 pm
Quote from: Lijj on February 05, 2012, 05:29:31 am
Interesting. So it's the ones that do smoke around here who actually do stuff. The ones who don't just post crazy ideas about hacking or complain about us people who do stuff saying it isn't enough.

I'm a homeless Linux user running a SaGa Frontier modding forum, leave me alone!