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Title: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Barren on August 13, 2016, 08:18:09 am
Everyone, now it's time to starting submitting teams for this year's FFT Arena AI Tournament!

We are conducting this tournament with traditional arena rules and this format will be in Swiss Style.

You can submit your team by PMing me and the deadline will be August 28th 11:59 PM EST.

Once we gather all the combatants we will divide the brackets and assign hosting duties to those who volunteered.

If you have any questions please post here and one of us will be able to answer them. Thank you and good luck!

Update: Now we're aiming for 36 players cause why not?

Combatants
Barren
silenkaster
Rouroni Elmdor
Otabo
Heroebal
dw6561
gatebuster202
Argy
Reks
Corosar
Dokurider
Jumza
Mudvayne
Anima Zero
Chemist
FDQuinn11
Red World
Kyrpt
TrueLight
Velcrow
Dol
Shintroy
CT5Holy
White Knight Wiegraf
Kashkabald
Skiploom188
fattyzilla
Andante49
Havermayer
synth
Andrew
VireBlaze
Eternal
jaaster
Vigilanti
DomieV
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: silentkaster on August 16, 2016, 10:53:50 am
I might have missed this and apologize if I did, but are the brackets going to be seeded?
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Barren on August 16, 2016, 10:56:56 am
It depends on how many people sign up for the tournament. So far no one has registered
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: silentkaster on August 16, 2016, 10:59:50 am
Well, I'm submitting a team. And I'm sure you will. If it's only us, we'll be guaranteed at least second place :P
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Elmdork on August 16, 2016, 11:36:02 am
Oh, I'm in.

We might want to send out some mails to remind people a tourney's happening and 1.4 is a thing.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Otabo on August 16, 2016, 11:41:28 am
I still can't get used to this patch, but I'm in this time.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: gatebuster202 on August 16, 2016, 12:52:14 pm
I'm submitting at the last minute
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Argy on August 16, 2016, 01:28:48 pm
Yeah, i am in as well. I will be posting closer to the deadline day.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Barren on August 16, 2016, 01:36:59 pm
When I receive team submissions I will update the first post to show off registered players

EDIT: After hearing silentkster's suggestion, what I'll do instead is name the people that say they want in. And worry about what team they submit later
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: dw6561 on August 16, 2016, 03:08:36 pm
I'll be participating for sure, but I need to actually make a team first :P
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Heroebal on August 16, 2016, 04:48:24 pm
I have some teams in the middle of processing, I haven't decided which one to go with yet.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Reks on August 16, 2016, 08:26:11 pm
I'm in.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Corosar on August 16, 2016, 11:10:39 pm
yea i wanna join in. i am just needing to go through the team and try and think of things that may be worrysome for it.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Dokurider on August 16, 2016, 11:56:07 pm
Creating a team, will try to have it submitted by Friday.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Jumza on August 17, 2016, 12:38:01 am
I'll be joining in, why not?
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Mudvayne on August 17, 2016, 09:34:39 pm
I'd love to join.

Quick question, is there a team building spreadsheet to use for the new patch? I'm on a new computer and don't have any of my old FFT files, including the team building spreadsheet which seems to have entirely disappeared from the site. I haven't made a team for the new patch because I haven't been able to find anything to help with teambuilding.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Gaignun on August 17, 2016, 10:17:32 pm
Hi Mudvayne,

The thread to which the spreadsheet was uploaded was unstickied because the spreadsheet is not yet updated to reflect the changes of latest patch.  You can find the thread here (http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=8202.0).

I am currently in the process of updating this spreadsheet.  It should be released in a few days.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Andrew on August 17, 2016, 11:12:10 pm
@Mudvayne: The memory card generator doubles as a team-building tool, but please read the "additional information" spoiler in its thread before using it.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Anima Zero on August 18, 2016, 07:33:06 am
Just sent in my team last night.  Here's hoping for the best this go around!
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Chemist on August 18, 2016, 08:27:28 am
I'll toss my hat in the ring! How so I sign up exactly. >.>
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Barren on August 18, 2016, 08:32:45 am
Quote from: Chemist on August 18, 2016, 08:27:28 am
I'll toss my hat in the ring! How so I sign up exactly. >.>


You can PM me your team. You can also refer to the master guide here (http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=11428.0) to look up equips and abilities for your team.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Chemist on August 18, 2016, 08:35:51 am
Quote from: Barren on August 18, 2016, 08:32:45 am
You can PM me your team. You can also refer to the master guide here (http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=11428.0) to look up equips and abilities for your team.


Gotcha, shall I PM you on discord? :D
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Barren on August 18, 2016, 08:40:17 am
I already got the team from you. You're good to go. Feel free to make any edits you desire before the deadline. Just as long as its within the JP cap
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: silentkaster on August 19, 2016, 12:43:20 pm
Count FDQuinn11 and RedWorld in. I'll get 'em to make teams :P
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Krypt on August 20, 2016, 08:29:57 am
Count me in, just submitted my team. Excited to see how things will go in new patch
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Dokurider on August 21, 2016, 01:20:59 pm
Submitted.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Velcrow on August 23, 2016, 03:09:28 am
Submitted.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: silentkaster on August 24, 2016, 10:31:22 am
Okay guys, time is winding down. Remember, deadline is at the end of the day this Sunday!!! (11:59 PM EST so for those of you in other time zones) Make sure you get those teams in!! If you have any friends or know of anyone who wants to join, make sure they get Barren a team by then!!

Good luck everyone!

Edit: I've been asked by a couple players to look at their teams and make suggestions before the tournament. I can't record matches for you, but I can test the team and/or offer suggestions on what I think might be missing or helpful. I'm willing to do that and I'm sure a couple others here are as well.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Shintroy on August 25, 2016, 12:43:48 am
Can't decide between a revised mime team, 140 meta melee mime, or Mimic Ultima. All I know is after all this testing (2 hours worth lol) I'm looking forward to a team with Paladin taking this tournament.

Good Luck all.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: CT5Holy on August 25, 2016, 01:28:43 am
ahhhhh hope this works!
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: silentkaster on August 25, 2016, 09:40:45 am
Quote from: CT5Holy on August 25, 2016, 01:28:43 am
ahhhhh hope this works!


(Ahhhhh must mean CT5 is running Dark Holy...)
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Kurosabes on August 25, 2016, 09:57:14 am
Did you get my team?
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: dw6561 on August 25, 2016, 10:31:18 am
I submitted my team a while back.

Come on tourney just 3 more days...
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Barren on August 25, 2016, 10:40:47 am
I got your team WKW don't worry. Also I'll be away for the weekend since I'm going to a Super Smash Bros Tournament. I'll take a look at the rest of the PMs when I get to the hotel in Boston
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Kashkabald on August 25, 2016, 11:01:33 am
Quick question: is the format just gonna be Swiss all the way or Swiss + top4/8 single/double elim split? I think the latter is better since you still get all the benefits of running a Swiss tournament while still having a final match.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Kurosabes on August 25, 2016, 11:06:33 am
Quote from: Barren on August 25, 2016, 10:40:47 am
I got your team WKW don't worry. Also I'll be away for the weekend since I'm going to a Super Smash Bros Tournament. I'll take a look at the rest of the PMs when I get to the hotel in Boston
Ah ok I wasn't worried. Just didn't see my name on the combatants list so I had to point that out.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: silentkaster on August 25, 2016, 11:12:49 am
Quote from: Barren on August 25, 2016, 10:40:47 am
I got your team WKW don't worry. Also I'll be away for the weekend since I'm going to a Super Smash Bros Tournament. I'll take a look at the rest of the PMs when I get to the hotel in Boston


Good luck! Have fun!
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Barren on August 25, 2016, 11:28:28 am
Quote from: Kashkabald on August 25, 2016, 11:01:33 am
Quick question: is the format just gonna be Swiss all the way or Swiss + top4/8 single/double elim split? I think the latter is better since you still get all the benefits of running a Swiss tournament while still having a final match.


It will be top 4 then it's single elimination. But if everyone wants a double elimination after the top 4 has been decided then I would not object. It will be up to the people recording the videos if they want to do that
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Kashkabald on August 25, 2016, 12:02:47 pm
I'm fine with either. Just really want a final match to happen~
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Gaignun on August 26, 2016, 05:54:06 am
Has somebody volunteered to organize the pairings for each round?
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Barren on August 26, 2016, 06:43:56 am
I believe Andante said he would do it. I'll PM him after this weekend, we're still accepting entrees as we speak.

With that said, there's seems to be enough people so far. However, if we're looking for more we would want 8 more people so that way the brackets can even out especially for the latter half
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Kashkabald on August 26, 2016, 12:44:57 pm
Submitted.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Reks on August 26, 2016, 01:13:16 pm
And finally submitted

Goodness I'm so nervous...
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Corosar on August 26, 2016, 07:50:35 pm
you and i both reks
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Anima Zero on August 26, 2016, 11:16:08 pm
My team's been submitted for awhile.  I'm also really nervous, but also really excited for the new season to see what everyone's come up with to win it all.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: CT5Holy on August 26, 2016, 11:31:53 pm
ahhhhh
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: skiploom188 on August 27, 2016, 12:32:16 am
Ohhhh no I'm about to miss out on my favorite AI tournament!

Did any rules for team building change? Any JP restrictions and limits for equip and abilities? I want to know the conditions so I can make a team on time.

Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: CT5Holy on August 27, 2016, 12:53:16 am
skiploom - nothing's changed in terms of teambuilding! Just take a look at the master guide and start teambuilding!
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Jumza on August 27, 2016, 01:13:05 am
Submitted.

Wheee~!
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: skiploom188 on August 27, 2016, 04:49:34 am
Quote from: CT5Holy on August 27, 2016, 12:53:16 am
skiploom - nothing's changed in terms of teambuilding! Just take a look at the master guide and start teambuilding!


Thanks for the info CT5Holy.

All righty then, to MS Excel!!!!
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: gatebuster202 on August 27, 2016, 08:41:06 am
Skiploom and Jumza, awesome!
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Otabo on August 27, 2016, 11:54:35 am
Submitted.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: CupOfOrangeJuice on August 27, 2016, 01:54:12 pm
I should have a team in at the very last minute possible.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Andante49 on August 27, 2016, 04:52:38 pm
Submitted
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Mudvayne on August 27, 2016, 10:23:22 pm
Submitted... Good luck to all!


I'm rather nervous. I didn't actually get a chance to do any actual testing on my team versus other teams. I spent a few days constantly making changes on paper but never actually tested it in battle. Maybe not the best idea.  :oops:
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Argy on August 28, 2016, 02:21:53 am
Team is submitted!! So nervous and good luck to everyone!!
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Barren on August 28, 2016, 10:26:47 am
With 29 entrees already we just need 3 more to have a full 32 player bracket!

C'mon people we just need a couple more people and we're good!!
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Heroebal on August 28, 2016, 11:24:41 am
I'm still mulling over Blackmail/Mimic Daravon vs quickening/gil toss/steal heart. Decisions, Decisions.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: gatebuster202 on August 28, 2016, 11:29:19 am
16 matches per round, I'm excited to do all that recording!! Tons of practice on my Shoutcasting!
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Gaignun on August 28, 2016, 12:36:34 pm
I am willing to be contestant #30.  Did my PMs reach your inbox, Barren?
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Kashkabald on August 28, 2016, 01:00:36 pm
Since there's gonna be quite a lot of matches, I'm willing to volunteer to stream some of these if there is a need.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Barren on August 28, 2016, 01:06:37 pm
That would be nice.

Also is everyone okay with a discord discussion for tomorrow night so we can see who will cover what bracket?
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: gatebuster202 on August 28, 2016, 01:56:54 pm
Sure, what time?
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Barren on August 28, 2016, 02:03:25 pm
Is 7pm EST good for everyone?
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: CT5Holy on August 28, 2016, 02:28:45 pm
Won't work for me.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: gatebuster202 on August 28, 2016, 03:26:35 pm
7CST is better
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Barren on August 28, 2016, 03:40:58 pm
I can PM you guys the details if neither host/back up host can make it
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: gatebuster202 on August 28, 2016, 05:25:56 pm
My daughter doesnt have daycare tomorrow, so I might make 7 EST
If we can do this quickly I can get matches in on Friday
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Barren on August 28, 2016, 05:28:47 pm
Once we see the brackets determined we can figure out who should assume responsibility of the bracket A, B, C and D since we want to divide it up
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Kashkabald on August 28, 2016, 05:37:22 pm
Dividing a Swiss system tournament kind of defeats the whole idea of easily sorting out the best teams without going through a full round-robin.

I understand the logistical concern but you're still going to have to wait for every bracket to finish a round before you can do another pairing and start another round. It doesn't help very much, if at all.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Barren on August 28, 2016, 06:09:10 pm
Definitely bring that point for the discussion for tomorrow if you can make it, if not then I will ask people on there the easiest way to conduct the brackets
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Eternal on August 28, 2016, 07:07:05 pm
And I'm entered! Been a bit since I've done an Arena battle, so I wholly expect to be thrashed.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: bruinsgirl33 on August 28, 2016, 08:25:49 pm
Hi! I'm here since my Boyfriend asked me to join his tournament. I'm interested since I play FF7 and have seen him play Tactics before. Hopefully you guys don;t mind :)
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: CT5Holy on August 28, 2016, 10:59:13 pm
Perhaps the way to divide the Swiss portion is to have hosts take turns doing whole rounds? i.e gatebuster does all the R1 matches, then dw does all the R2 matches, etc.

Also I think I asked this before, but the format sounds like it's Swiss for X rounds, then teams with 8 best records advance to and face off in a single elimination bracket?
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Gaignun on August 29, 2016, 02:41:30 am
We could also apportion matches to each of the hosts at the beggining of each round, wait for the hosts to upload their videos, perform matchmaking for the next round, then repeat the process.  This would lighten the burden on any one host, but add some delay between rounds as we wait for every host to finish his or her matches.

In addition, do we have a matchmaking algorithm prepared?  We have more than 32 contestants, so we will need a method for efficiently and fairly pairing players with similar win/loss ratios.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: CT5Holy on August 29, 2016, 02:55:44 am
I think challonge can do Swiss - if yes, then it should be able to automatically pair players by win-loss record, right? Or are there other factors to consider?
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Gaignun on August 29, 2016, 04:05:37 am
Oh, I did not know that Challonge has Swiss tournaments.  I am having a look at it, and it seems we can even award points for each win of a match.   Challonge should do nicely.

Double-post: I won't be able to make it to the evening discussion due to time-zone differences, but let me know if I can contribute in some way.  I can do everything other than record matches.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: gatebuster202 on August 29, 2016, 09:01:12 am
If it can't I just need someone to randomize everyone and I can build the Swiss pairings. (Swiss doesn't use a Bracket at most TCG tournaments.)

Usually you randomize everyone. 1 plays 2, 3 plays 4 ect. For round 1

Winners of round 1 play Each other and losers face of. Match 1 and 2 winners play each other. (Yes it looks like a traditional bracket for the first two rounds. After that, you just pair the closest records. Which can be a bit hard, but it will make sense and everyone should be able to back check my work if I did it.)
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: CupOfOrangeJuice on August 29, 2016, 06:54:45 pm
I can't wait to see how my team does! I'm excited for how things will go.
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Andante49 on August 29, 2016, 09:41:51 pm
Here's how things are looking with 36 participants.

http://challonge.com/arena5 (http://challonge.com/arena5)
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: gatebuster202 on August 30, 2016, 12:19:55 am
Andante, do you have the bracket? If so perfect. Less work on me. :v/:
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Celdia on August 30, 2016, 12:59:45 pm
*walks in, reads the sign about the deadline, checks her watch*

Oh, god damnit...

Well. Good luck, everyone! :D
Title: Re: FFT Arena Season 5 Registration
Post by: Barren on August 30, 2016, 04:58:13 pm
Quote from: Celdia on August 30, 2016, 12:59:45 pm
*walks in, reads the sign about the deadline, checks her watch*

Oh, god damnit...

Well. Good luck, everyone! :D


If you still want to join celdia we are looking for a couple more people since we need to even out the brackets