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Title: Testers
Post by: Zozma on September 06, 2009, 05:04:29 pm
I need one or two people willing to test my monsters and battles up untill chapter 2.

one person focused on monster developement: someone that can make some good suggestions on balancing each of the available monsters.

and the other focused on battle difficulty.

I need these mechanics fine tuned so that i can focus on implimenting the actual events. Just be aware that your not really getting a sneak peak at the story as so much as you are seeing a few gutted events.
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future updates from testing:

Orbonne Monestary - Lavian will have Non-Charge just for show as her ai apparently hits as many buddies as she does enemies with her fire spell.

Dorter 1 - Add 2 more archers and another black mage

Rat Cellar - Corrected Delita's skillset, hes NOT supposed to have Ultima lol
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 06, 2009, 05:08:20 pm
I can do battle difficulty.
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Post by: Zozma on September 06, 2009, 05:14:58 pm
good, your 1 of 2 then.

and since you're femiliar with my patch youd be able to give me ideas for story input as well.

So what you're trying to do is help me make the battles as hard as possible. but i need you to test it as someone without any gameshark or any other kinds of shortcuts.
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 06, 2009, 05:15:51 pm
Sure can do.
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Post by: Zozma on September 06, 2009, 05:24:09 pm
Here is what im trying to do DP, that requires your input

I want enemies to be so difficult (if possible) that you are almost willing to keep going if one of your specials crystalize. Including randoms.

It is nowhere near that point right now and as far as what the enemies have available? well it still needs to become progressively harder as the game moves forward so they arent going to just be able to start with things like "counter" "blade grasp" "hamedo" etc so primarily all i have to work with is their numbers, jobs, and levels. Equips are going to be generated based on their levels.
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 06, 2009, 05:36:18 pm
Alright, so you want to go near 1.3 difficulty but to stay away from the threshold of it. Am I not right?
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Post by: Zozma on September 06, 2009, 05:41:38 pm
something like that. I definately want to try to help enemies get the upper hand whenever possible.
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 06, 2009, 05:46:44 pm
It did always bug me that elite soldiers could be thoroughly upset by a heretic and some cadets.
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Post by: Zozma on September 06, 2009, 05:54:49 pm
Im counting on you.

Pick each battle apart. Im currently debating weather or not to allow monster recruitment at all right now as well... im just not sure
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 06, 2009, 06:02:06 pm
Overanalyzing things into oblivion is what I do best.

Hint: The biggest mass murderer in Star Wars is the guy who fired the Deathstar's cannon at Alderon.
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Post by: Zozma on September 06, 2009, 06:06:00 pm
good, when i put out a demo up to chapte2 end i wan't it to be well worth the long wait.
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 06, 2009, 06:09:31 pm
It shall be.
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Post by: Samuraiblackbelt on September 06, 2009, 07:40:32 pm
wish I could...
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Post by: Zozma on September 06, 2009, 08:26:22 pm
but you cant?
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Post by: Kagebunji on September 07, 2009, 11:58:27 am
I can, maybe those 50 times of beating vanilla will finally be usefull. If I find battles easy, I will tell. Deal?
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Post by: Zozma on September 07, 2009, 04:41:43 pm
sure why not ;), ill have to wait till i get my internet back up, sunday or monday, at home before i can send you guys patches.
it will definately start out easier than 1.3, thats why i need them tested and then get feedback
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Post by: Zozma on September 11, 2009, 10:06:21 am
So Kage and DP im just waiting on my ISP to come back up on Sunday and im also making some additions to those battles up till chapter 2 end.

Certain areas as of yet are a bit neglected but with your help testing things should evolve pretty well. And as i've mentioned before, just dont expect many things to make sense as you will see special guest/ enemy characters without any explaination as to why they are there. Events take a long time to create so most of that isn't worked out yet.

Monsters are a bit screwy right now since i used an asm hack that disables the fixed color palettes. so if you see monsters with the wrong palette let me know so i can set it right in ENTD
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 11, 2009, 10:28:10 am
Alright, ready for the patch when it hits the shelves errr I mean our inboxes.
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Post by: Zozma on September 11, 2009, 10:51:21 am
np, just remember that you have to apply the "expanded iso" patch to a vanilla rom first and then apply this afterwards
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Post by: Kagebunji on September 11, 2009, 12:15:07 pm
I'm waiting. It is simple procedure to patch clean ISO, yes? Just like you do with 1.3?
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Post by: Zozma on September 11, 2009, 12:20:57 pm
yeah, you just have to expand the iso with the first patch, and then patch mine
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Post by: Xifanie on September 11, 2009, 01:16:35 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"Monsters are a bit screwy right now since i used an asm hack that disables the fixed color palettes. so if you see monsters with the wrong palette let me know so i can set it right in ENTD
I can fix that kind of stuff pretty easily. maily it's a copy/paste in excel and set the palette to their original value based on the job.
Seem a bit complicated but it's extremely easy for someone like me.
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Post by: Zozma on September 11, 2009, 01:23:36 pm
cool, its nice to have control of a monster's color palette with ENTD but if the palette is set to 0 its nice for them to take the one that matches their job/tier
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Post by: Arvine on September 11, 2009, 03:45:43 pm
dang too late
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 11, 2009, 04:47:44 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"np, just remember that you have to apply the "expanded iso" patch to a vanilla rom first and then apply this afterwards

If you could link me to it that would be nice. I lost my copy somehow and can't find the thread.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 11, 2009, 07:09:17 pm
Is this it?

Extend ISO
http://www.ffhacktics.com/downloads.php?id=13 (http://www.ffhacktics.com/downloads.php?id=13)
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Post by: Xifanie on September 11, 2009, 07:34:41 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"cool, its nice to have control of a monster's color palette with ENTD but if the palette is set to 0 its nice for them to take the one that matches their job/tier
Um... that would require modifying the asm hack and would create the restriction that you would be unable to use for instance a dark behemoth with the normal behemoth's sprite.

My plan is "manually" set all the corresponding palettes with excel and then if you create a new battle or something else you'll have to manually set them too.

If you still want just send me your fftpatch.

Else you can just use the special units/generics version of the hack if you're not planning to give any monster a special palette.
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Post by: Zozma on September 12, 2009, 03:33:32 pm
ill have to think about it, i havent applied that long part of the asm to the battle.bin because of that crash i menioned earlier.  hopefully tho ill have the internet back up at home tonight when i get off work

and yes Mike, that is it.  thanks for linking it
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Post by: Zozma on September 13, 2009, 07:25:48 am
damn AT&T they pushed back my activation day till tomorrow. thats some bullshit! (im writing this from work so i dont have my files)

i cant send it till tomorrow sorry testers...

and Arvine you are not too late, my patch will be a hot mess when you play as a tester but you're welcome to do it as well.
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Post by: Kagebunji on September 13, 2009, 01:13:13 pm
Remember that I have school on my head, so I can't report everything regulary, I will play when I will be able to. Btw, will we be able to recruit someone?
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Post by: Zozma on September 13, 2009, 02:16:46 pm
huh, u mean any of the special units? or like monsters and humans etc?

generic humans can only be hired at the soldier office
monsters currently cannot be recruited except for Boco

for special units you get Boco, Mustadio, and Lavian before chapter 2 ends which is the end of the patchwork so far
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Post by: Kagebunji on September 13, 2009, 02:42:21 pm
I'm happy to know that someone joins. Soldier office is the same, or can we hire some new units?
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Post by: Zozma on September 13, 2009, 02:44:55 pm
its the same,

you, however, get more special units join up by the end of the game than you have space for so either way you have to boot some characters. Its a shame i couldnt get it expanded to 20 to fit everyone but thats just the way it is.
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Post by: Kagebunji on September 13, 2009, 02:48:53 pm
I think it's good, it forces you too beat game at least twice.
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Post by: Zozma on September 13, 2009, 02:53:45 pm
I think you'll enjoy the selection, alltho they are all human except boco so far
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 13, 2009, 04:09:09 pm
I was working on expanding the amount of units available before my last computer died. I did some comparison and copy pastes between PSX and PSP and had a semi feasible setup though the background was severely messed up and it had a tendency to crash.

If I can remember what I did I'll redo it and post a PPF for you guys to play around with.
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Post by: Zozma on September 14, 2009, 07:34:22 am
maybe its a good thing... having to boot some lol

btw im STILL waiting for fucking ATT to activate my internet. i donno whats with isp's and bad service
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 14, 2009, 09:25:21 am
I've never had that problem. Then again roadrunner sucks anyway.
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Post by: Zozma on September 14, 2009, 09:34:29 am
well my room mate cancelled the internet because "its the principle of the thing"

and i told her they dont give a shit about that you're just another number to them and she called to get it back lol
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 14, 2009, 09:47:10 am
Quote from: "Zozma"well my room mate cancelled the internet because "its the principle of the thing"

That doesn't even make sense. Is her statement context base or drivel?
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Post by: Zozma on September 14, 2009, 09:57:19 am
i donno some billing issue or something. and when i find out "but its the principle of the thing"

im like wtf?? why the hell would a big company give a shit about that lol
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Post by: Zozma on September 15, 2009, 09:13:31 am
k guys, my internet is back up. I have 2 more battles to alter

(adding in Melodia Fenzol the sniper) i should be able to pm a patch to my testers sometime tonight
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 15, 2009, 11:18:17 am
Good to hear that ^^
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Post by: Zozma on September 15, 2009, 11:28:33 am
were you testing it too jimmy? its a bit messy right now but still the test is for battle layouts
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 15, 2009, 12:50:09 pm
Alright my schedule for tonight has been cleared.
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Post by: Zozma on September 15, 2009, 01:02:35 pm
very well creature
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 15, 2009, 01:09:38 pm
Unfortunately, no Sir Zozma. I wish I knew how. Haha ^^
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 15, 2009, 01:12:17 pm
Yes a mastah.
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Post by: Zozma on September 15, 2009, 01:21:19 pm
its just a runthru from a few other ppl's point of view so i can see how things are working so far
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Post by: Kagebunji on September 15, 2009, 04:31:33 pm
Is it just me, or you too didn't get patch DP? Btw, it's already afternoon in my country, that's why I'm asking.
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Post by: Zozma on September 15, 2009, 05:56:27 pm
sorry! theres um an intruder in my house!

i have to wait till "they" get rid of him. hopefully he hasnt fucked up my shit
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 15, 2009, 06:08:09 pm
Yea I got nothin.

Hope they catch that "intruder".
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Post by: Zozma on September 15, 2009, 06:09:20 pm
im actually sitting in my work office. i had to leave and call some cops, apparently its someone to do with my room mate so i cant really get rid of him
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 15, 2009, 06:11:18 pm
That's why they sell spare room mates you can put in you trunk or bolt under you car,
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Post by: Zozma on September 15, 2009, 06:15:51 pm
its real bullshit. if any of my stuff got fucked up, im going to be so mad.

i should still be able to send the patch tonight provided that i can get back to my house......
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 15, 2009, 06:37:51 pm
Alright.

I can understand a sense of anger. Stuff gets annoying easily.
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Post by: Zozma on September 15, 2009, 06:39:02 pm
its frustrating. cant even protect my stuff with room mates there
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 15, 2009, 08:55:20 pm
Could be worse. My family has sold my stuff before for spending money.

Had to replace my PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube because my dad wanted a new grill.

Hope you stuff is okay though.
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Post by: Zozma on September 15, 2009, 11:55:33 pm
you 2 have mail!
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Post by: Kagebunji on September 16, 2009, 12:00:43 pm
Ok here are two bugs:

(http://i31.tinypic.com/viogup.png)

(http://i29.tinypic.com/35avec1.png)

Difficulty of Gariland was quite high, I had to lure one by one enemies to win, Orbonne was easy though, maybe boost power of enemies, or give them some good support skills, like Defense UP or Attack UP?

Btw, great music for world map ;)
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Post by: Zozma on September 16, 2009, 03:37:35 pm
your having a text issue? how is your emulator set up? or is he actually using Dark Sword there? that would be odd

also thx for pointing out the palette issue i missed one. I recently applied an asm hack that allows special units to have multi palette use just like generics do so thats all that is.

thats Odd with the text for the bio spells too, i patched an extended vanilla, and everything seems to be working fine..... yours did have any other patches applied right?
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Post by: Zozma on September 17, 2009, 04:14:50 pm
okay, i need a third to test for the same things. someone that has their emulator set up specifically for FFT is preferable

also it appears your original version should be this size 541,315,152.

according to melonhead. but thats probably what creates the errors is a size difference

If its not, please let me know what yours is..
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Okay testers, check your boxes again
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 17, 2009, 05:11:29 pm
Cool. I'll work on this tomorrow I have my evening rather tied up.
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Post by: Zozma on September 17, 2009, 08:11:36 pm
very well creature
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Post by: GeneralStrife on September 18, 2009, 02:26:33 pm
I can do this if you need any more testing help, I am good with grammar and spelling.  I will look at my original iso size when i get home later today.
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Post by: Zozma on September 19, 2009, 02:22:17 am
ill post things that will be updated on the first post of this topic
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Post by: AngrySurprisedFace on September 26, 2009, 11:53:34 pm
O: Zozma!

Have I been gone too long to qualify for testing this magnificent piece of FFT art?

D;
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Post by: Zozma on September 27, 2009, 12:18:20 am
nah of course not.

its a bit of a mess. I now have a plan in motion at least for chapter 1 to have all the enemy units in event battles have set equipments.

im working on that now. i suppose i can create an update thusfar.

it seems that mages get themselves in a bit of trouble if you're playing the game on low levels.

well pm me and ill send u a patch
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Post by: CTS413 on September 27, 2009, 03:53:45 pm
Hey i would like to help out testing. plz respond back
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Post by: Zozma on September 27, 2009, 11:33:17 pm
ill be sending out an updated version of the ppf soon, then i suppose you can get one as well
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Post by: Orlandu on October 19, 2009, 11:34:11 pm
lookin forward to it, i'll help testing although i'm not sure if i could be of any help :P

whoa.. didn't see the last post date, it's been a month.. is the patch already out?
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Post by: Zozma on October 19, 2009, 11:57:05 pm
Stand by,

I'll let you all know when the next update comes.
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Post by: DarthPaul on October 20, 2009, 12:18:30 am
Standing by. Getting a new laptop tomorrow that should hopefully allow for video capture.

Then I am back into the fold.

My electronic devices hate me.
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Post by: Ceallach on October 26, 2009, 06:42:40 am
This might be a little late, but if you're still looking for testers I would like to help out. I'll probably be using ePSXe and Delta, if that helps any.
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Post by: Zozma on October 26, 2009, 06:56:00 am
ill let u know the next time i update
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Post by: Shade on October 26, 2009, 09:37:49 am
I would be also be happy to help you.
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Post by: BloodyBlade on October 26, 2009, 09:48:01 pm
All hop aboard the Zozma Testing Train!!!
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Post by: PX_Timefordeath on October 27, 2009, 12:42:18 am
In
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Post by: Wasabi on October 30, 2009, 01:03:54 am
I'd definitely want to test, although all I have is a PSP with CFW.
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Post by: DarthPaul on October 30, 2009, 12:21:41 pm
Sweet new testers. I'm hoping to do a collaboration with my friend Morph when I continue. That is if his college will let Koiz stay as well.

If not I resume testing after Halloween. Tonberry costume for the win.
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Post by: BloodyBlade on November 03, 2009, 05:35:40 pm
lol Darth. Still testing BTW. So far, monsters are just epic. We gotta work on them. Like the Bull Demon. Damn Blow Fire hits hard.

AI needs some work. I wish you let Bosses have random strong gear. Im ast level 80+ and at Fort Zeakden, Damn Vicks had like crappy gear except his Accessory which was a Feather Mantle
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Post by: Zozma on November 04, 2009, 03:52:30 am
Thank you to everyone who has tested the game so far.

Nice catch DC on the places that exceeded the sprite cap.

the next patch will be released when chapter 3 is complete. (excluding events scenes!)
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 04, 2009, 12:26:58 pm
So, still got long way to go? ^^
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Post by: BloodyBlade on November 04, 2009, 03:42:09 pm
Yea. Me and Zozma still working out bugs and some interesting story plots. And making the AI harder.
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Post by: AngrySurprisedFace on November 04, 2009, 04:42:40 pm
p_p
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 04, 2009, 11:46:30 pm
As yes, AI harder, that's good. Not easy to finish and win ^^
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Post by: BloodyBlade on November 12, 2009, 05:23:51 pm
UPDATE: I will show off the Ignis battle soon since I am there pretty much but I need another mic.
Title: Re: Testers
Post by: Ulric on March 01, 2010, 06:23:22 pm
I would like to help however I can, if possible.
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Post by: Kokojo on March 01, 2010, 06:47:27 pm
This projet is *mostly* dead as of now, I think.
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Post by: Ulric on March 01, 2010, 09:15:17 pm
Hm... That sucks.
Title: Re: Testers
Post by: GeneralStrife on June 15, 2010, 10:40:05 am
nah
Title: Re: Testers
Post by: Zozma on June 15, 2010, 03:30:56 pm
chapter 3 ENTD setups are nearly complete and then testing can begin just note t hat you will not be able to get past Riovannes rooftop deliberately chapter 4 will be sealed off
Title: Re: Testers
Post by: GeneralStrife on June 16, 2010, 12:15:28 am
Great!