I try edit sunglasses but it looks ugly and weird =.= I can't seem to make it look right =.= Need some help on the glasses. And I changed his hair color. What do you think of this color? Oh, and that blue thingy on his face is the mark on his nose.
EDIT: Head and the hair clip/band/something (http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt312/jimmyjw88/Kazeprogress16glasses-1.png)
Is the head still too front? Honestly, the only that looks kinda nice for the glasses is the side-view Don't you think? ^^
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This is a work done by KazeKasano. I will give credits to KazeKasano if I finish this sprite. ^^
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Post by: Kaijyuu on April 19, 2009, 12:31:09 pm
I like the general idea. The hair definitely needs work; the front-side view head seems a bit misshapen, and the part switches places between perspectives.
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Post by: KazeKasano on April 19, 2009, 02:36:04 pm
When I stole Agrias' hair for that, I was totally inebriated, and half-way incapacitated. Please, do something nice with it!
It is my shame.
Edit: Might need to use a darker color for the hair. Also possibly sunglasses.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 20, 2009, 02:26:18 am
Oh...so is this your work, KazeKasano? I'm sorry. I didn't meant to take other people's work and make it my own. You can take it back and I will delete this topic. Sorry. I didn't mean to steal your work. It's just that it stop progressing, so I just pick it up. My apology.
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Post by: KazeKasano on April 20, 2009, 02:48:43 am
No, please take it. I insist. I actually don't have the time to do it, since I've been working on starting a sprite comic and I have finals coming up next week.
I have no plans to pick it back up, so no apology required. Besides, I'd like to see where it goes. ^_^
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 20, 2009, 12:15:44 pm
I see. Well, I continue to progress it then ^^ Thanks, Kaze.
I'll try my best to work this sprite out.
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Post by: KazeKasano on April 20, 2009, 01:47:37 pm
It is I who should be thanking you, my friend.
Edit: Oh damn. That looks MUCH better than before. Very nice work. For the sunglasses, you might want to take a look at the ones in my very pointless set of images in the spam forum under the thread "Take A Look At Me".
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Post by: Cheetah on April 20, 2009, 04:56:58 pm
Very cool that you are picking up a request Jimmy. Looks like a good start, those glasses are going to be tough. I would recommend focusing on other parts of the sprite so you continue to make progress and learn and then take another shot at the glasses later since they will be really easy to add to the sprite at any time.
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Post by: Zozma on April 20, 2009, 05:18:40 pm
the head on the diagonal is not right, it should be a bit bigger towards the back
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 20, 2009, 11:39:40 pm
Thanks for the support guys. And, Zozma...Yea. The head for front-side view is abit too front. Thanks I didn't really notice that as I was busying try to make the glasses look right. I even use one of the sprite (Auron), made by the japanese for the reference of the glasses.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 23, 2009, 04:28:37 am
Sorry. Busy trying to make Llednar mug look right.
UPDATE* Two more poses (http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt312/jimmyjw88/Kazeprogresses.png)
What do you think? The hair looks abit funny though Any suggestions / criticism on the hair?
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Post by: Zozma on April 23, 2009, 06:03:31 am
looks good but not so consistant from the forward facing to the diagonal (in the front of the face)
and are u trying to do glasses? i think its best to make the eyes look normal for now, somehow the eyes look a mess, but its much better than before overall
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 23, 2009, 09:54:45 pm
I'm not doing the glasses for now, as Cheetah said, its better to focus other major parts and give another shot on the glasses when everything is done. By the way, Zozma, are you talking about the front view?
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Post by: Zozma on April 23, 2009, 09:58:43 pm
well front and diagonal
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 23, 2009, 10:45:29 pm
Errm...is it the face? The whole front view?
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Post by: Zozma on April 23, 2009, 10:49:33 pm
use a default face because the altered eyes dont look right, theres not really enough detail to do anything else to the face except maybe make it look slightly angry
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 23, 2009, 11:24:52 pm
Hmm...Angry...I'll try and see. Thanks Zozma. And is the hair for side-rear view and rear view looks ok?
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Post by: Zozma on April 23, 2009, 11:42:09 pm
yeah looks fine, like the haircolor
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 23, 2009, 11:53:26 pm
Took me awhile to match it with Kaze's hair from the pictures ^^ K. Then I'll try fix the face for front view.
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Post by: KazeKasano on April 24, 2009, 02:21:59 am
His hair really is an odd shade of brown, isn't it?
Great progress so far. Is the Magun going to be able to be included? It seems rather integral to the character.
Which also makes me wonder... Is it possible to lock a unit's equipment so that he wouldn't have any other weapons besides that? I know that Cloud can only use his limits if he has the Materia Blade.
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Post by: Zozma on April 24, 2009, 02:37:50 am
there are sealed jobs, if u combine that with maintenance then they are stuck with whatever they came with, however they cannot change jobs or learn anything new
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 24, 2009, 03:03:24 am
Quote from: "KazeKasano"Is the Magun going to be able to be included? It seems rather integral to the character.
Are you suggesting that he should hold that gun? Or the gun is around his waist or something?
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Post by: Oblivion on April 24, 2009, 04:13:09 am
hey jimmy thanks for your help! anyways kaze is lookin good! keep up the good work
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Post by: Asmo X on April 24, 2009, 04:44:54 am
I dont know who this Kaze is, but you could use mustadios legs. He has a gun holster around his ankle. I suppose the wizards cloak might not allow it at its current length though
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 24, 2009, 05:09:21 am
Hmm...Good point Asmo. I'll try to fit in the gun holster from mustadio legs in. And thanks ehrgeiz, and you're most welcome. Hoping able to finish the mug soon =)
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 24, 2009, 09:04:45 am
By the way, guys, just to be sure... Is the green and gray colors from wizard sprite male is his pants? Or half shirt half pants? Lol
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Post by: Asmo X on April 24, 2009, 10:21:56 am
all pants. Most sprites have very small torsos
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 24, 2009, 10:26:09 am
Oh..I see. Cause if there's bit shirt that is showing, I can color some brown on it. Oh well...
UPDATE* Changed eyes back to normal for now and make it slightly angrier. And add a bit details on the hair. What do you think?
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 24, 2009, 10:38:54 am
UPDATE* Is the glasses look ok?
EDIT: Portrait by KazeKasano. I just add the glasses in.
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Post by: Asmo X on April 24, 2009, 11:16:43 am
can you post a bigger version of the sprite? Also, the glasses are too flat. They stand out. Whats that coloured line under the glasses?
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 24, 2009, 12:22:38 pm
Yea. I just roughly sketch it and color it in =D That is the red and it is red dots from his picture. Notice that blue circle from the picture.
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Post by: Asmo X on April 24, 2009, 12:38:53 pm
Jeez dude. I don't think thats going to translate to sprite-form properly.
You need darker shading as the legs go up into the coat.
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Post by: KazeKasano on April 24, 2009, 07:36:48 pm
Looking great!
Also, a clarification on the Magun. The Magun is a symbiotic gun which Kaze uses to summon creatures. Pretty much a gun that has its own job class. It's bonded to his right arm. Here's a better pic of it: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/final ... Frozen.PNG (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/5/56/Magun_Frozen.PNG) It covers his right forearm, and transforms into a much more traditional gun at seemingly random times.
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Post by: Zozma on April 24, 2009, 07:41:42 pm
dont try to do those facial features, its only going to look funny and you wont really be able to make out what its supposed to be, i mean on the sprite itself
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Post by: Kaijyuu on April 24, 2009, 08:19:11 pm
The scar(?) seems possible for the portrait, but will be pretty darn difficult to not look silly.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 24, 2009, 11:28:30 pm
Yea. The gray colors are temporary. I will change them into darker colors soon. So are you talking about that blue thing on his nose? Meaning I should remove that?
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Post by: Asmo X on April 24, 2009, 11:51:11 pm
Yeah. it just isnt going to look right
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Post by: Zozma on April 24, 2009, 11:52:21 pm
well if hes not talking about it i am, that blue looks odd, as i said , you should stick with a normal face because there is not enough room for such detail. besides, if you get rid of that light blue dont you free up a color?
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 25, 2009, 12:05:16 am
Yea. Another color freed ^^ K then. I'll update it later. Thanks guys
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 25, 2009, 10:05:31 am
By the way, any suggestion on the color in exchange for the blue? I chose this color Take a look ^^
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Post by: Asmo X on April 25, 2009, 10:14:18 am
That's looking a lot better.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 25, 2009, 11:43:17 am
Ok. Also, is the gray dark enough? Like you suggested for darker colors, Asmo.
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Post by: Asmo X on April 25, 2009, 11:49:03 am
no no i meant darker colours in the area where the legs start to disappear under the cloak. Thats too dark all over. You also only really have 2 tones for shading. Maybe take a pair of legs/boots from another sprite, shading and all. And then substitute its colours.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 25, 2009, 11:51:40 am
Oh...so should I change back to the previous lighter gray? Basically I'm picking up the colors for the legs. I haven't really progress on the legs ^^
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Post by: Asmo X on April 25, 2009, 11:59:14 am
yeah make the main areas of the legs a bit lighter again. Also, look at more legs to see how they're shaded. Even though they all look different, there's kind of a method to the way they're shaded. Just takes some practice.
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Post by: KazeKasano on April 25, 2009, 10:16:50 pm
What Asmo said is correct.
Great job though! This is improving at a pretty constant rate! Much better than I could've done.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 26, 2009, 12:54:52 am
Thanks. Well, I just make abit changes. It's still your base sprite work. ^^
UPDATE* Magun / Gun holster I feel it looks bit funny and weird due to the colors and its way low of his legs. If try place it under his waist, its not visible due to his cloak. So, any suggestions? ^^
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 26, 2009, 12:06:51 pm
UPDATE* Kaze animation How is it?
EDIT: Also, how do you make the background transparent, using GIMP or Graphicgale? Want to make my cless animation background transparent. ^^
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Post by: KazeKasano on April 27, 2009, 02:53:59 am
To simulate the Magun, use the color from the holster on the far arm only. Also, the hair animation is great the only thing I can suggest is to also animate the hair on the closer side of the sprite.
Very impressed with the animation! I really didn't think anyone would pick this up ever, so thank you!
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 27, 2009, 04:18:42 am
Thanks so much, Kaze ^^ Still, its your sprite that did all the work. If you hadn't make this, I wouldn't be able to make the current progress ^^ So, it is I, who should thank you. Ok, I'll try make the hair animated of what you suggested. Also, for the holster, by far arm, you mean on hand? And color for the holster would be abit of problem. I only have a dark brown and some face colors to use for the holster.
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Post by: KazeKasano on April 27, 2009, 08:10:21 pm
I can't really find a good reference picture yet... I was referring to the colors on the holster being used for the far arm.
Edit: Good reference pic at last: http://www.ffcompendium.com/chara/u-kaze2.jpg (http://www.ffcompendium.com/chara/u-kaze2.jpg)
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 27, 2009, 11:14:47 pm
Oh...so meaning use the color(gold) from the picture? Also, where should I place the holster?
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 27, 2009, 11:38:32 pm
UPDATE* Kaze animation. I animate the hair closer to the sprite. Is it ok? Or still need more animate?
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Post by: LastingDawn on April 28, 2009, 12:06:34 am
This sprite is really starting to look incredible! Looks good!
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Post by: Zozma on April 28, 2009, 02:13:03 am
i like it as well, honestly i didn't expect it to turn out so good
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Post by: SilvasRuin on April 28, 2009, 02:56:42 am
Now I really want to see this sprite in use in an actual game. It's looking good.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 28, 2009, 11:12:35 am
Thanks for the supports guys ^^ Really appreciate it. I will try to finish this sprite after my finals ^^
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Post by: KazeKasano on April 29, 2009, 12:15:20 am
Looking great! The animation is alot better, as well.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 29, 2009, 10:02:26 pm
Hey guys, now that my exam is over, I guess I can continue Kaze ^^ But before that, here is sample of Auron remake that I've come up.
Although it still need alot of work to make it perfect, but it is the sample for now ^^
What do you think?
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Post by: Zozma on May 29, 2009, 11:15:02 pm
k... borrow a red from an existing fft sprite
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 29, 2009, 11:18:03 pm
Oh...is the red too bright?
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Post by: Zozma on May 29, 2009, 11:19:46 pm
yeah, try to compare shades of red used in default fft sprites, like the red male knight cape or something....
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Post by: Cheetah on May 30, 2009, 12:34:42 am
What Zozma said. The glasses are looking good, maybe one shade darker for the highlights. So much better looking then the japanese one.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 30, 2009, 09:04:20 pm
Ok. How is this? Does it look better?
Version 1 glasses (http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt312/jimmyjw88/Auronsamples1.png)
Version 2 glasses (http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt312/jimmyjw88/Auronsamples2.png)
Also, which glasses looks better? Or still need some work?
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Post by: CidIII on May 30, 2009, 09:05:19 pm
haha the Japanese version is complete shit.
Kind of like the thinner framed ones better
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 30, 2009, 10:57:06 pm
So, means the second version is better?
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Post by: Cheetah on May 31, 2009, 02:42:24 am
I like version one of the glasses better without the extra lines.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 31, 2009, 03:42:38 am
Ok, so means first version, right? Also Cheetah, you mentioned about the glasses highlights, is the highlights better now?
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Post by: DarthPaul on May 31, 2009, 08:56:34 am
2nd version of Auron is cool. Please plan on finishing this. Also it is hard to believe anyone could fuck it up as much as that japanese version.
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Post by: Zozma on May 31, 2009, 08:58:34 am
did you see their barret portrait? horrible and it looks like it only used 3 colors.
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Post by: DarthPaul on May 31, 2009, 09:07:29 am
I expect those kinds of fuck ups on the portraits, because they don't care about matching the art style. The fact that the sprite can look so unlike Auron I didn't even know who it was supposed to be just sickens me. I could do better from scratch, and I'm not that good at this.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 31, 2009, 10:54:21 am
Yea. I agreed with darthpaul. If it wasn't the red shirt, I wouldn't know that it was Auron =.= Also, the hair is so messy and out of shape, the left arm (sprite's left) is too mascular, and there's a white thingy which I was scratching my head off wondering what the fuck is that, until I went and look for pictures and then I realised it is suppose to be a bottle or something around his waist... And I was also wondering why the hell his arm so mascular and out of shape until I found the reason why.
EDIT: It seems that some preferred first version of glasses and some preferred the second ^^
Also, which Auron version you guys prefer? First version, with his shirt? Second version, wear half of his shirt?
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Post by: DarthPaul on May 31, 2009, 12:04:50 pm
I prefer the half shirt version because it is a battle sprite and you never see him fight with that sleeve on.
Also the gourd is rather important in the FFX cutscenes in that he is regularly seen drinking from it. Even though the character is not complete without it in fan art for an FFT sprite it is unnecessary and just gets in the way.
EDIT: in my opinion the sunglasses are optional, though I prefer version 2.
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Post by: Cheetah on May 31, 2009, 12:06:04 pm
I think the glasses highlights are better, though maybe a little to dark now...
Your naming conventions are confusing with all your different versions. But I like the first version of the glasses and the third version of the sprite, with the one bare arm.
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Post by: CidIII on May 31, 2009, 12:06:41 pm
Me too, Cheetah.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 31, 2009, 12:51:42 pm
Sorry for the confusing naming. Here, I renamed them.
First Version Glasses (without extra lines) (http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt312/jimmyjw88/Auronsamples3.png)
Second Version Glasses (with extra lines) (http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt312/jimmyjw88/Auronsamples4.png)
So, which version of glasses is better and full shirt or half shirt is better? Hope it's not confusing anymore ^^
Also, is the highlights of the glasses lighter?
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Post by: beawulfx on May 31, 2009, 12:54:21 pm
I prefer the second version glasses personally. They look more 'realistic' to me. I'm torn on the half shirt/full shirt though. I think I might like the full shirt more.
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Post by: SilvasRuin on June 01, 2009, 12:26:42 am
Quote from: "darthpaul"I prefer the half shirt version because it is a battle sprite and you never see him fight with that sleeve on.
Also the gourd is rather important in the FFX cutscenes in that he is regularly seen drinking from it. Even though the character is not complete without it in fan art for an FFT sprite it is unnecessary and just gets in the way.
EDIT: in my opinion the sunglasses are optional, though I prefer version 2.
This.
Though to elaborate, the jug of rice wine helps complete his typical ronin image. (Yes, despite being awesome, he is somewhat of a stereotype.) I personally think the sprite could use the jug. (Maybe even have drinking from it being his casting animation.)
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 01, 2009, 01:38:31 am
Hmm...jug....so without it, the sprite is not completely Auron. I'll try my best to fit it in nicely ^^ For now, I'll need to see which is favourable the most ^^
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 14, 2009, 11:56:36 am
Here, another sample. The hair looks bit funny.......Well, I guess the whole sprite looks abit out. Anyway, this is a sample. Any suggestions, opinions, critiques? ^^
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Post by: Cheetah on June 14, 2009, 12:55:43 pm
The structure of the hair looks decent, but those light highlights appear to be randomly placed and are way too light.