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help with portrait hair shading

Started by akwikone, May 10, 2009, 01:04:43 am

akwikone

May 10, 2009, 01:04:43 am Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by akwikone
this is what I have so far



I tried to shade it with two lighter colors in the pallette and I got this..




it's kinda looks like dreads, but that not what I'm going for, I more want long curly hair, any tips?

Smash

May 10, 2009, 01:25:56 am #1 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Smash
Either shrink it to regular size and work off that, or smooth out the entire portrait to go with the hair, like Zodiac's portrait.

akwikone

May 10, 2009, 05:37:49 pm #2 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by akwikone
I'm not sure I get what what you mean shrinking it to a regular size?, but I'm not much of spriter, I mostly just like making cool avatars, and my reccorces for spriting consist of Paint and an imagination

I think I found a happy median with the three colors I have available in the 16 coler pallette

Kaijyuu

May 10, 2009, 05:44:35 pm #3 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Kaijyuu
I think akwikone isn't planning to import it in-game.

Either way, shrinking it to the regular size will stop possible style clashes. Currrently the base is made in one resolution, and your edits are in another, higher one.


Anyway, for hair, try to give some form to it. Trying to make random strands never looks good. That perspective would be a difficult one, though, so.
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akwikone

May 10, 2009, 06:53:24 pm #4 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by akwikone
thanks for the tip, helped alot, last issue, the mustash, without a nose it's very hard to position


dwib

May 10, 2009, 11:53:37 pm #5 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by dwib
wow hair looks TONS better. is this a pirate?

akwikone

May 11, 2009, 01:35:15 am #6 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by akwikone
Thanks, but no, it's s'posed to be a class called Fell thief, kinda like the mighty sword abilities, but instead of breaking the equips it steals them, asm would be required for that though, anyway it was mostly just meant to be an avatar, and you're right it does look a pirate.


EDIT: stash mark 2


LastingDawn

May 11, 2009, 02:55:34 am #7 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
ASM, to the contrary is not needed for that. Breaks can be turned into steals without any real problem, I use that trick in Mercenaries.
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akwikone

May 11, 2009, 12:08:39 pm #8 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by akwikone
and still have them do damage?

LastingDawn

May 11, 2009, 03:18:52 pm #9 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
Damage...? No, good point.
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sadness can be turned to delight.
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akwikone

May 11, 2009, 03:21:29 pm #10 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by akwikone
oh well, no big deal I didn't realy have a patch to put the class in anyway, it was more just a concept I liked.

akwikone

June 02, 2009, 07:00:24 am #11 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by akwikone


new one, any thoughts?, tips?, constructive criticism?, have at it

jimmyjw88

June 02, 2009, 08:59:06 am #12 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by jimmyjw88
This is looking good.
Pointy ear? Elf? ^^
But I think her hair's lines is abit weird. Needs some shadings instead of just yellow and dark yellow lines.
Maybe kinda like your pirate's hair ^^
Well, I can't say too much as I myself am suck at portrait and shading. You can look at Llednar's topic and give some critiques ^^
Wait for Smash's critiques and tips. He is the master here ^^
Kindly upload the images to other image hosting sites. I can't view imageshack. Thanks.

DarthPaul

June 02, 2009, 11:30:51 am #13 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by darthpaul
Quote from: "akwikone"

new one, any thoughts?, tips?, constructive criticism?, have at it


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jimmyjw88

June 02, 2009, 11:59:36 am #14 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by jimmyjw88
Hmm...Add a mustache and maybe it will look more like Orlando Bloom.
Haha
Kindly upload the images to other image hosting sites. I can't view imageshack. Thanks.

mav

June 02, 2009, 12:17:42 pm #15 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by mav
Quote from: "jimmyjw88"This is looking good.
But I think her hair's lines is abit weird. Needs some shadings instead of just yellow and dark yellow lines.
Take this suggestion into consideration, since figuring out hair seems to be one of the bigger challenges...

Xifanie

June 02, 2009, 12:19:55 pm #16 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Xifanie
you should take a look at long hair protraits to ahve a better idea on how to shade the hair because currently it looks pretty bad with only two colors and too linear as well.
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Jumza

June 02, 2009, 03:59:46 pm #17 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Jumza
Awesome!
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dwib

June 02, 2009, 08:15:48 pm #18 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by dwib
linear is a great way to describe what's wrong with your hair shading

mav

June 02, 2009, 08:19:49 pm #19 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by mav
Righto dwib. And akwikone, take a quick look at the male archer's hair. The shade and coloring is used to convey images of light and depth, while the style you used is probably supposed to convey hairstyle. Alternatively, look at some of the girls' hair, like the female summoner's or something--it's layered and multi-colored.