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Title: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Zotis on May 14, 2014, 11:52:56 am
In this minigame of my own invention the characters are slaves from a conquered nation forced to fight as gladiators for their masters' pleasure.  Characters begin as lowly squires with a maximum of 600 JP to start, many of the lowly combatants have even less and are not optimally equipped.  Characters are matched up randomly and must even duel their own friends and former comrades.  My character is Matred on the brown team, and I hope she survives.  Crystalization means permanent death, but even if a team is wiped the fallen who are still clinging to life will be resurrected by their masters to fight again.  Kills and eating crystals reward 100 JP.  Being on the winning team also awards a 100 JP bonus, but only to those still standing.

Let the carnage begin...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smX2C-SAZ7A

Neassa (Brown)
Diya (Brown)
Jordan (Black)


Van (Black) - killed Neassa (Brown) - 100 JP
Van (Black) - killed Diya (Brown) - 100 JP
Matred (Brown) - killed Jordan (Black) - 100 JP
Van (Black) - killed Madeleine (Brown) - 100 JP
Cettina (Black) - ate a crystal - 100 JP
Merari (Black) - killed Matred (Brown) - 100 JP
Cettina - still standing - 100 JP
Merari - still standing - 100 JP
Van - still standing - 100 JP


Anyone wishing to join may post their character with a 600 JP cap.  You must be a squire for at least one battle before you may change class.  You'll be assigned a random colored team and companions.  You may start with any items you desire, but changing items costs 100 JP per item (but that item remains in your repertoire and can be switched back at any time for no extra cost).  Phoenix Blades and Cursed Rings are banned.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: ShadowDragon15 on May 14, 2014, 12:50:13 pm
So what are we calling this indefinitely? FFT Gladiator? FFT Battle Royale? Would you create a submissions thread and video/discussion thread too?


I would love to be an active member of this. However, I think there may need to be more limits. more specifically upon items. Everyone could grab Cursed Ring right at the beginning, and then they're guaranteed not to crystalize and the such... But I love the idea, so count me in to play.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Zotis on May 14, 2014, 01:03:39 pm
Sorry I did forget to mention that.  Pheonix Blades and Cursed Rings are banned, those are the only bans.

This thread will be both the discussion and video thread.  It's called FFT Arena Minigame: Battle Royale.

If you want to join just post your character with the normal Master Guide format, but 600 JP limit.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Jumza on May 14, 2014, 02:55:44 pm
Is there a JP cost for changing jobs? Or any pre-requisites like the original FFT job tree?

I'll post my character tonight :o this sounds cool.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Malroth on May 14, 2014, 03:39:30 pm
I can't say I agree with the "start as a Squire" there's no varation on the builds and its 100% luck based if you manage to survive to become something intresting, then the ones who got to change class first will just keep eating squires to grind JP to be unstoppable.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: ShadowDragon15 on May 14, 2014, 04:10:31 pm
Yeah, if you're going to create 7 generics for each gladiator to fight or be teamed with, you should probably mix up jobs and use the same JP cap as the gladiator in the match.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Zotis on May 14, 2014, 06:03:22 pm
Balance discussion is mich appreciated.  Well I will try to do things to keep it interrsting.  The idea of starting as a squire implies that the slaves were little more than ordinary folk when they were captured, and weren't given more than basic training before being thrust into the ring.  But I may consider lifting that limitation.  Farming lesser squires should only last the first few matches.  After that I will start gradially adding tougher foes so that it really comes down to a battle of survival.   I'm not really sure how to make it end, but perhaps if there's enough players it will become all pvp.  Any suggestions are also welcome.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Malroth on May 14, 2014, 07:13:38 pm
My entry


Jessica
Female
Serpentarius
50
70
Squire
(no Secondary yet)
(no reaction yet)
Defend
(no movement yet)
Papyrus Plate
Escutcheon II
Black Hood
Light Robe
Dracula Mantle

Heal

after her first day of training

Jessica
Female
Serpentarius
50
70
Squire
White Magic
(no reaction yet)
Defend
(no movement yet)
Papyrus Plate
Escutcheon II
Black Hood
Light Robe
Dracula Mantle

Heal
Raise Cure2
jp remaining 200




Tourette
Female
Serpentarius
50
70
Oracle
(no secondary yet)
(no reaction yet)
(no support yet)
(no movement yet)
Octagon Rod

Black Hood
Light Robe
Dracula Mantle

Blind, Beguile, Petrify, Spell Absorb
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Jumza on May 14, 2014, 08:00:32 pm
Here's mine

Cyriac
Male
Aries
40
70
Squire
Black Magic



Thunder Rod
Aegis Shield
Golden Hairpin
Linen Robe
Magic Gauntlet


Bolt


Remaining JP: 250
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Zotis on May 14, 2014, 09:38:57 pm
For now Malroth, I'm going to say you have to be a Squire.  I do want to have at least a small element of working your way up, for this particular minigame.  The other one I'm working on will be different.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: ShadowDragon15 on May 16, 2014, 03:15:03 pm
I had an idea for you Zotis... What if you placed like... a 50 JP, or even a 25 JP, requirement on every item, except the beginner items. You know how all the items are listed right now? what if the top item of every list were the beginner item. Every squire had to start with the beginner item of their respective valid weapon/shield/Helm/Armor/Accessory. This way every gladiator has a sense of accomplishment and get better equipment as they progress through the ranks. Like they really did back then. This will probably bring a greater challenge and allows people to really get into having really good units.

And to really explain what I mean, I'll just use the knives as an example. Let's just say you decide to begin your squire with the Throwing Knife, then you manage to win a battle and you gain some JP. well, now you have to decide to to use this currency for better equips or for better skills. If you decide on better equips, then they have the option of spending 25/50 JP to switch weapon classes, or to upgrade the Throwing Knife into the Dual Cutters, and from the Dual Cutters to the Repel Knife. The idea would be to not skip on down the list, and adds a little more variety to the strategy.

Just a thought I had, to possible amp up the excitement of your new mini-game. Tell me what you think.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Zotis on May 17, 2014, 11:19:48 am
Thanks for the suggestion ShadowDragon15, but I think I'd rather not do something like that.  First of all the items are not ordered from best to worst, they are balanced so that everything is good if used right.  Also, working down the list to something you want for a particular build that you're just going to change later is a little bit too limiting and tedious.  Then there's the issue of dying and having to start over, you wouldn't want to keep going down the list and never getting to the lower items.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: silentkaster on May 17, 2014, 01:47:55 pm

Lonely Widow
Female
Virgo
70
40
Squire




Poison Rod
Aegis Shield
Green Beret
Light Robe
Feather Mantle

Alacrity, Heal
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: enderbane23 on May 17, 2014, 05:05:59 pm

Robert
Male
Serpentarius
70
40
Squire

Counter Tackle
Defend

Lionheart
Genji Shield
Twist Headband
Power Sleeve
Battle Boots

Bullrush
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Leif1991 on May 17, 2014, 05:11:02 pm
This looks like fun.


Agent Jay
Male
Virgo
70
40
Squire

Counter Tackle
Defend


Blood Sword
Escutcheon II
Flash Hat
Power Sleeve
Feather Mantle

Heal, Yell


EDIT: Enderbane 23, it looks like you crossed the 600 JP cap.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: enderbane23 on May 18, 2014, 09:22:15 am
Yeah just realized that. Should be fixed now.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Dokurider on May 19, 2014, 05:29:42 pm
Hah, this looks fun. Does the 600 JP cap include unlocking classes to get abilities? Do I have to spend an additional 250 to unlock Thief so I can get Move + 1 for instance?
Red Luster
Male
70
60
Serpentarius
Squire

Concentrate

Blood Sword
Escutcheon II
Green Beret
Brigandine
Angel Ring

Buy List:
Counter
Buy (Not Equip) Diamond Armor
Buy (Not Equip) Genji Helmet
Buy (Not Equip) Rubber Shoes
Become Knight
Equip Diamond Armor, Platina Helmet, Rubber Shoes
Move + 1


Use this one when Blood Luster bites the dust.

Plan J
Male
70
50
Serpentarius
Squire
Jump

Tactician's Blade
Genji Shield
Black Hood
Brigandine
Power Wrist

Level Jump 5, Vertical Jump 5

Buy List:
Buy Dragon Whisker
Equip Clothes
Become Lancer
Equip Thief Hat
Equip Secret Clothes
Overwhelm
Level Jump 6
Vert Jump 8
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Zotis on May 19, 2014, 07:56:17 pm
Yes you must spend 250 to unlock thief.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Dol on May 19, 2014, 09:05:55 pm

Dolwina
Female
Serpentarius
40
70
Squire
Black Magic




Wizard Rod
Kaiser Plate
Golden Hairpin
Black Costume
Diamond Armlet

Fire

Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Barren on May 20, 2014, 06:28:01 am
I guess I can join in. Let me know if I mess up here


Climhazzard
Male
Serpentarius
70
50
Squire
[nothing yet]
[nothing yet]
Defend
[nothing yet]

Platina Dagger
Escutcheon II
Twist Headband
Power Sleeve
Feather Mantle
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Leif1991 on May 20, 2014, 10:05:33 am
Concentrate puts you 50JP over the cap unfortunately.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Barren on May 20, 2014, 11:02:13 am
Quote from: Leif1991 on May 20, 2014, 10:05:33 am
Concentrate puts you 50JP over the cap unfortunately.


Changed concentration to defend i that case
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: ShadowDragon15 on May 22, 2014, 05:06:37 am
Here we go. I like Magic, so here's a good starting run for my first attempt. Enjoy.


Wiz Girl
Female
Virgo
40
70
Squire
Black Magic

Defend

Flame Rod
Venetian Shield
Golden Hairpin
Black Costume
Magic Gauntlet


Fire
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Dokurider on May 22, 2014, 01:31:58 pm
Trying to upgrade jump is way too prohibitive as is. Trying to get 500 JP to upgrade from Level Jump 3? I don't think so. I propose that getting the next level in Jump should only cost 100 JP for Range increments and 50 JP for the Vertical increments.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Zotis on May 22, 2014, 02:02:54 pm
I don't want to make any adjustments to JP costs.  It costs what it costs.  You'll just have to save up for it.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Barren on May 22, 2014, 04:30:51 pm
So when will your mini game start?
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Zotis on May 22, 2014, 07:46:29 pm
I'll do it tonight when I get home from work.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Zotis on May 23, 2014, 03:08:52 am
Malroth's Jessica was selected for the black team.  Jumza's Cyriac and Dokurider's Red Luster were selected for the Blue Team.

Round 2 - Black Team vs Blue Team (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zivNGSAMjDA)

Merari
Christen
Cettina
Van
Red Luster


Maria - Ate two crystals - 200 JP
Jessica - Killed Christen and Maria - 200 JP
Cyriac - Killed Merari, Van, and Jessica, ate three crystals, and was still standing - 700 JP


Sorry Dokurider, you had a good unit, but poison... and stall tactics...  Blame Jumza for bolting you. XP  Also the AI doesn't think to attack with the blood sword and heal when it's critical.  Running away is more important to the AI.  You can make another character, but again you'll have to start at 600 JP.  You have to make a different character though, not just remake the same one.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Jumza on May 23, 2014, 05:18:01 pm
Yeesh, sorry about that Doku :P We were even on the same team. Though I managed to eat your soul and bring myself to victory so... thanks for that :)


Zotis how do you want us to update our characters? Should we edit our original posts or delete them and repost our new char every time we update?
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Zotis on May 23, 2014, 09:15:21 pm
Don't bother deleting your old post, just post your changes in your next post.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: TrueLight on May 24, 2014, 10:41:39 pm
Here's my character.

Kyril
Male
Aries
70
40
Squire




Ice Brand
Kasier Plate
Black Hood
Power Sleeve
Elf Mantle
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Jumza on May 25, 2014, 10:00:03 pm
With a staggering 950 jp to spend, here is my updated character.

Cyriac
Male
Aries
40
70
Wizard
White Magic



Thunder Rod

Golden Hairpin
Linen Robe
Magic Gauntlet


Bolt, Bolt 2,
Raise 2, Dia



Remaining JP: 100

Armory:
Aegis Shield
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Dokurider on May 27, 2014, 03:00:44 pm
Ah, I guess that's- Hey wait a second, where's Concentrate? I put Concentrate on him. No wonder he was missing. In any case:

Treasure
Female
Serpentarius
45
70

Squire
White Magic

Healing Staff
Escutcheon II
Golden Hairpin
Robe of Lords
Cherche

Raise, Regen
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Zotis on May 27, 2014, 03:53:52 pm
You couldn't afford Concentrate.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Dokurider on May 27, 2014, 03:57:23 pm
How? it's the only thing I bought with my JP, and it's only 400 JP.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Jumza on May 27, 2014, 05:11:00 pm
Quote from: Dokurider on May 27, 2014, 03:57:23 pm
How? it's the only thing I bought with my JP, and it's only 400 JP.


Unlocking jobs still costs 250 jp (as I understand it) so you'd be 50 over the limit.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Dokurider on May 27, 2014, 05:35:06 pm
So I have to pay for initially unlocking Squire, and therefore only have 350 JP to work with instead of 600?
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Jumza on May 27, 2014, 06:08:58 pm
Oh, right. Concentrate is a squire ability. I'm just gonna hide then
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Zotis on May 27, 2014, 10:36:05 pm
Yes you have to pay 250 for squire.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Jumza on May 28, 2014, 07:51:21 pm
Quote from: Zotis on May 27, 2014, 10:36:05 pm
Yes you have to pay 250 for squire.


Well that seems a little silly doesn't it? I mean, if you're forcing us to start as a squire then either don't make us use 250 jp for it, or just let the players know they are starting with only 350 jp instead of 600. It's very misleading otherwise.
Title: Re: Minigame: Battle Royale
Post by: Zotis on May 28, 2014, 08:53:42 pm
I should have said something in my original post.  I thought I did, but I guess I forgot.