Final Fantasy Hacktics

Just wondering what everyone's favorite is at the moment? For me, I really like IV. Cecil, Kain and Rosa were all very interesting, Cecil and Golbez being brothers was both surprising and interesting and over all i really really liked the game. This is for the numerical ones of course.

1. IV
2. IX
3. VII
4. VI
5. V

IX, but game is way too easy.  WTB hard mode ff9

1. VI
2. XII
3. VII
4. V
5. I
6. IX
7. IV
8. X
9. III
10. II
11. VIII

1 - FFT - FF7
2 - FF9
3 - All the rest (But I admit I never played FF6)

1. VII
2. VII
3. VII
4. VII
5. VII
6. VII
7. VII
8. VII
9. VII
10. VII
11. VII
12. VII
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15. VII
16. VII

My Top 5 are:

1. Final Fantasy IV
2. Final Fantasy VII
3. Final Fantasy IX
4. Final Fantasy VI
5. Final Fantasy V

1.FFVII
2.FFT
3.FFVIII
4.FFX

This should totally become a poll. Anyways top 5 being...

1.) Final Fantasy VIII (FFT if it counts.)
2.) Final Fantasy VI (VIII)
3.) Final Fantasy V (VI)
4.) Final Fantasy XII (V)
5.) Final Fantasy IX (XII)

1. VII
2. X
3. IX
4. VI
5. VIII

Edit: Aaaaaannnnnnd if this wasn't only for the numbered games, I'd say Tactics would be numeral 3.4.

1. FFT
2. FF VII
3. FF VI
4. FF IX
5. FF VIII

1. FF VII

2. FF VIII

3. FF X

4. FF IX

5. FF IV

1. FFVII
2. FFII
3. FFXII
4. FFIII
5. FFIV

Never played V, VIII, or XI.  I got fed up with VI at least 75% of the way through.  I never did get to play the very beginning or very end of IX, and I wasn't that great with the skill system it had, but I suspect I would like it better now that I've fought with FFTA and FFTA2's skill learning system.  I look forward to it being released on the PSN in the US.

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From the ones I've played AND beaten.

1. IX (this one is just too perfect. needs hard mode though; and no, restricting yourself is a shit).
2. VII
3. T
4. X
5. V
6. XII
7. VIII
8. IV
9. I
10. Dirge of Cerberus
11. Crystal Chronicles (worst FF ever IMO)

II played a couple of hours and didn't like it.
III was emulating it and accidentally erased the folder (I was quite far, near the ending). It's great though.
VI played it up to the final dungeon, with all party members back like 3 times. Never finished it. I won't lvl up 3 teams, grinding sucks in any game.
TA played it 2 times until around half through the story and got bored.

You only need enough for two teams, IIRC... I think there was a way to get one person by him/her/itself and avoid all encounters.  It's been a while since I read anything about that though.

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Seconded.

Quote from: "Sephirot24"1. IX (this one is just too perfect. needs hard mode though; and no, restricting yourself is a shit).

It's nice to see IX getting a little love. ^_^ I personally loved that game, but it had to go to third because I've never beaten it. -_- School is a bitch sometimes...

P.S. Sorry for the double-post, I just couldn't help myself.  

I want a remake of VII that fixes the translation errors and the glitches and then has the incomplete materia and other features finished and added in.  Oh, and more stipulations on the use of KoTR and some harder superbosses.  A full set of WEAPONs (that aren't pansies) to fight would be nice.

Quote from: "SilvasRuin"I want a remake of VII that fixes the translation errors and the glitches and then has the incomplete materia and other features finished and added in.  Oh, and more stipulations on the use of KoTR and some harder superbosses.  A full set of WEAPONs (that aren't pansies) to fight would be nice.

Just remove the broken materia (Mime, KOTR, Final attack) and make enemies stronger...some ps3 improved graphic and the game is ready

how do you beat emerald weapon without final attack? (and KoTR) Since i didn't use any guide to beat those weapons, i don't know if there're any other way to defeat emerald without final attack...

Ruby.. i think still possible.

For Emerald?  Go into the fight with Underwater Materia and as few other materia as possible.  Efficiency is the most important part of fighting Emerald Weapon because Aire Tam Storm or whatever it's called is based on the amount of materia the character has equipped.

1. FFX
2. FFX-2
3. FFXII
4. FFVII
5. FFIV
6. FFVIII

Never played I, II, III, V, VI, and IX
XIII is coming out this month WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Personally I like Kingdom Hearts better than FF

6 and 12.

5
6
4
9
10
12
7 (if Aeris never died it would be worse, but it was a little slap from 4 that made it better )
1 (as much as I love it, objectively it's just behind the curve)
3
[BIG GAP]
8
2

To beat the emerald weapon
His final attack deals 1111 damage X number of materia equipped
So, equip less than 9 materia and you will do fine

and then just HP restore linked to KotR with mimic and cheese him to death

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And for FFVII newbs: http://zodiac.ffhacktics.com/FFVII_FAQ_ ... _v1.08.txt (http://zodiac.ffhacktics.com/FFVII_FAQ_All_Lucky_7s_v1.08.txt)

I haven't beat  II, III, IV, V, VI. This is all assuming FFT doesn't count.

1) XII (I love this game to death even without a story or character development)
2) VII
3) VIII
4) X
5) IX (this would actually close to my least favorite of the entire series)

01- IV
02- IV: After Years
03- Tactics
04- V
05- X-2
06- X
07- VI
08- III
09- I
10- IX
11- VII
12- XII
13- II
14- VIII
:x- XI
- XIV

Fantastic list Vanya! Here is my personal favorites...

1 - FFIV
2 - FFT
3 - FFVI
4 - FFIII (Great music and a wonderful introduction to the job system)
5 - FFV
6 - FFXII (If we would have got the Zodiac Job System, this would be higher...)
7 - FFIV - After Years
8 - FFI
9 - FFIX
10 - FFII
11 - FFX
12 - FFVIII
13 - FFXIII
14 - FFVII (Gah... what a broken and idiotic system.)

why is there no tactics on the poll??? this is a fucking TACTICS hacking site

Hard for me to choose one favorite, but here're my top five in no particular order:

1) IV
2) V
3) VII
4) IX - Just replayed it recently and I appreciate it much more this time around. It has the worst implementation of ATB though.
5) XII - It's a shame SE hasn't fleshed out the Ivalice Alliance more than the have though.

As for the rest, FFII is probably the only one I don't much for at all, mostly because of the character progression in the game. I still haven't ended VI yet and I've never played the first game, so I can't speak on it.

voted VII

Quote from: "Samuraiblackbelt"why is there no tactics on the poll??? this is a fucking TACTICS hacking site

Because the OP specifically says, "This is for the numerical ones, of course."

And because FFT SHOULD be everyone's number 1, so there's no need.

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Cool topic, I'm never satisfied with my order but here it is:
1. FFIV
2. FFI (for nostalgia's sake; it's one of the first games I ever played)
3. FFVI
4. FFIX
5. FFV (vastly underrated, in my opinion)

I haven't played any of the games that came out after FFIX and I didn't really get far enough in FFII, III, VII, or VIII to rate 'em.

By the way, this is a good thread for introducing the Gametrailers Final Fantasy Retrospective, if anyone here hasn't seen it yet.

It's a 13-part video series on the history of the Final Fantasy franchise. I felt like watching it again recently.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/part- ... tasy/22250 (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/part-i-final-fantasy/22250)

Ooh, awesome find, BP. I'll definitely try to look into that in the near future.

QuoteAire Tam Storm or whatever it's called is based on the amount of materia the character has equipped.

QuoteTo beat the emerald weapon
His final attack deals 1111 damage X number of materia equipped
So, equip less than 9 materia and you will do fine

wait.. i never know that =(

voted VII

Aire Tam Shot V_V

I remember I W-item'd hero drinks. around 3 for each character (barret, cloud and red xiii) and then whacked with KOTR (just once, had 1 star only), quadra ultima, 4x cut, and limits, while keeping regen and both barriers up. Pretty crappy method, but no way in hell i'm gonna grind what most of you guys do.

6 and FFT are roughly equal in my eyes. Objectively though, 6 has a lot of nostalgia value for me, so I'd say FFT is a better game.


After that it's:

5
10
4
7
MQ
9
8
3
2
1


I never liked the NES games much. 9 would be MUCH higher if I didn't find the gameplay to be so boring.

EDIT: Stuck mystic quest in there for good measure.

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Seconded.

Haha. FFVII OWNED!!! But I like FFIX. Never play others before, unfortunately. Haha.

Tactics
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X
VII

Please, don't let FFIX win.  The game was good, but Zidane sucked completely.  Vivi, Steiner, Amarant, Garnet, Eiko, Beatrix - all were awesome characters, but Zidane had less personality than a plank of wood.  Your main character should be a highlight of your game, not the detracter to it.

Also, you fought god at the end for no plotworthy reason.  That was wierd.

I think the final boss was supposed to weird on purpose.  Some sort of inside joke about how the final bosses of the series all tend to appear out of nowhere.

The main character detracting from the game due to being a plank of wood is kind of traditional, at least recently.  I honestly don't believe that's true and the characters have more depth than people give them credit, but I certainly can't argue against them being annoying.

Let's see....

Chaos, Cloud of Darkness, Zeromus (to a much lesser extent)... then after that, it's pretty expected.


Exodus, Kefka, Sephiroth, Ultimecia, though X pulls that trick again with Yu Yevon,

Quote from: "SilvasRuin"The main character detracting from the game due to being a plank of wood is kind of traditional, at least recently.  I honestly don't believe that's true and the characters have more depth than people give them credit, but I certainly can't argue against them being annoying.

The personality devoid main character is pretty prevalent throughout the FF series. Even the ones who aren't that way tend to be really annoying (tidus).

Final Fantasy hasn't had a non-annoying and deep main character since Butz. And his personality tends to get lost in translation.

Quote from: "Kuraudo Sutoraifu"Please, don't let FFIX win.  The game was good, but Zidane sucked completely.  Vivi, Steiner, Amarant, Garnet, Eiko, Beatrix - all were awesome characters, but Zidane had less personality than a plank of wood.  Your main character should be a highlight of your game, not the detracter to it.

Also, you fought god at the end for no plotworthy reason.  That was wierd.

How in the hell did Zidane have less personality then Dagger, Eiko, Beatrix (who is a minor character), well really any of them.

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Quote from: "SilvasRuin"The main character detracting from the game due to being a plank of wood is kind of traditional, at least recently.  I honestly don't believe that's true and the characters have more depth than people give them credit, but I certainly can't argue against them being annoying.

The personality devoid main character is pretty prevalent throughout the FF series. Even the ones who aren't that way tend to be really annoying (tidus).

Final Fantasy hasn't had a non-annoying and deep main character since Butz. And his personality tends to get lost in translation.

Hmm, while I do agree Bartz is a pretty good main character, I feel that Terra/Celes held the flame rather bright for main character at the time.
Terra was a rather mysterious girl and played the role well, and the circumstances surrounding her and the importance she had was very well highlighted.

Celes is introduced with a lot less bravado, seen in a couple of flashbacks prior to being jailed and rescued by Locke, she would seem to only play a love interest to Locke, but they made her stand out so much more for her actions. Even further she takes the lead role in the World of Ruin, bringing the whole group back together. There it seems that Locke was made into the hanger onto Celes, rather then the other way around. A fantastic role reversal for the time.

Mine is:
VI
IX
XII
VII
Then the ones I've barely played:
IV
V
Then the ones I've never played:
Then VIII

I hate VIII sooooo much. VII was okay, I still can't beat the weapons and I don't feel a lot of impetus to either, I've already got everything except the final attack -> phoenix combo.

And as an afterthought, Chrono Trigger stands out above all final fantasies to me. I just recently played it, and the least I can say is that I was moved. And by moved I mean I fought back tears like a little girl whose dog just died.

Stating that the final boss comes out of nowhere in other FF games only makes those FF games worse, it doesn't really make IX better.  Two bosses LD pointed out, Cloud of Darkness and Zeromus, just kind of popped out of nowhere.  "You killed this big bad boss, now I'm going to to kill everyone!" is thier entire plot for one battle of the game.

Quote from: "Smitson"How in the hell did Zidane have less personality then Dagger, Eiko, Beatrix (who is a minor character), well really any of them.

Easily explained, my friend.  Zidane has no personality, thusly he has less than the three females you mentioned.

QuoteAnd as an afterthought, Chrono Trigger stands out above all final fantasies to me. I just recently played it, and the least I can say is that I was moved. And by moved I mean I fought back tears like a little girl whose dog just died.

And Chrono is the epitome of a main character with no personality.  It is an epic game though.

Personally, I feel that many characters who people claim have no personality actually do have personality... it's just one that the people find either boring or annoying.  The thing is that a boring personality is still a personality.

As I was saying, if you want to point out someone with no personality, point out Chrono.  He didn't even talk... at all.

By the criteria presented in the last bunch of posts, V is guilty of the "last boss from out of nowhere" syndrome as well (Neo Exdeath).

"You've killed me. Now I, having been comsumed by the Void, want to erase all existence."

But I've a question. What determines whether a character has personality or not?

That question is what I was just trying to address.  I suppose someone could argue that Chrono does have a personality that he shows through his actions though...  Basically the only ones I consider to truly have NO personality are the ones purposely designed that way back in the old RPGs where the game makers wanted the players to feel like the main character.

Quote from: "SilvasRuin"That question is what I was just trying to address.  I suppose someone could argue that Chrono does have a personality that he shows through his actions though...  Basically the only ones I consider to truly have NO personality are the ones purposely designed that way back in the old RPGs where the game makers wanted the players to feel like the main character.

Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you about Chrono. I'm just asking the question because "personality" in relation to FF protagonists came up.

I like (almos) all the final fantasy games...i actually own em all form the frist one on NES to the 12 on PS2...
excluding the damn FF13...
Plan to get FFXIV once this came out.

@LD

If we're talking FF6 characters, almost every single one has more depth to them than Terra. Sure she's got an interesting backstory, but backstory alone doesn't give a character personality. Terra never made a decision throughout the entire game, with the sole exception of helping the children in the WoR. Everything else she decided to do either had no weight in the story (You want a Gauntlet or a Genji Glove?) or was done at the prodding of someone else (Please help us against the Empire. Please open the sealed gate. Please talk with the Espers. Please?).

There was a lot of potential in Terra that I think Square missed. There were plenty of parts in the game that she could've taken a more decisive role in, but instead she's just the thread that ties everything together for the first half of the game.


Edgar rigged the coin toss in his brother's favor.
Locke's depth rivals (if not surpasses) Delita's.
Celes is a lonely soldier with a conscience.
Terra... just does what she's told the vast majority of the game.

Well, Terra isn't the sole main character in the game, she is meant to be portrayed that way. She's a tool from the start to the end of the World of Balance. Celes was meant to be the show stealer (quite literally) and in my opinion is the main character moreso than Terra. Terra may start the story, but she's not even needed to finish it.

Well, if you finish the game without Terra, she shows up anyway, so that kinda solidified her as the "main character" to me.

But yeah, FF6 has no true lead character. I'll agree with that.

That's... usually the role of the main character in an RPG -- he's more or less an observer of everything that goes around him.  This is most noted in both 10 and 12 where the blonde guy main character has no clue wtf is going on half the time.  

QuoteTerra never made a decision throughout the entire game, with the sole exception of helping the children in the WoR.

Which is the only time she's able to, since she's no longer the primary character.  Notice how Celes does absolutely nothing in WoR except try to kill herself (I know I can let Cid live, but I just love the dramatics) at the very start?

Hmm? In the World of Ruin she reunites with Edgar and Setzer in her attempts to find Locke and stop Kefka. You don't have a party you can switch around until after you reach the Airship. She talks Setzer out of his slump and aids Edgar in freeing Figaro.

Voted X. Call me a sap for enjoying the plot of the game. The mechanics sucked, but was decent for a turn-based rpg. X-2 is easily despised, but I found that it held its own in following up with X's ending somewhat well.

Second would be VI, but only because I enjoy Celes being the show stealer. Terra can eat it.

My opinion is the exact opposite of yours on the subject of FFX.

And I just plain hated X.

I liked X-2 because it is one of the few games with a "fluid" job system.  That is to say, I like being able to choose what job my character has at any given point in the game without just being picky about what abilities they use after they learn them all.  That and I love Dark Knights when they aren't made to suck.  FFX-2 Dark Knights definitely didn't suck.

Cue Dark Knight rant!
I despise Lanistas from FFTA2 with a passion, and the change FFIV DS made to Darkness was disheartening.  A toggle that lasted the whole battle would have been better, especially if it didn't take a turn, but I only rarely bothered to ever use it in that version.  I similarly despise FFXII's Souleater.  That is unless someone can tell me a method to make it actually deal worthwhile damage...  WoTL's Dark Knights are too dang powerful to actually be able to appreciate them, as are all the sword skill units.  FFIII DS's Dark Knights sadly just didn't get to see much use.  They're more fragile than the other melee classes, and being fragile tends to be a very bad thing in that game.  That and Ninjas are absurdly good and you just can't beat a Knight for tank purposes.

Final Fantasy III's Dark Knights can deal tremendous damage to the enemy's party, heavily damaging them or just outright killing them in one fell swoop. I never used it in my first playthrough, but Darkness and Jump are extremely useful.

Quote from: "SilvasRuin"Cue Dark Knight rant!
I despise Lanistas from FFTA2 with a passion, and the change FFIV DS made to Darkness was disheartening.  A toggle that lasted the whole battle would have been better, especially if it didn't take a turn, but I only rarely bothered to ever use it in that version.

There were plenty of times I used Darkness in FFIV DS. Even early in the game, it makes some battles a joke (Octomammoth). I'd think that a toggle that lasts all battle would be inconvenient, unless you have the option to turn it off. Which of course means another turn wasted by turning it off.

QuoteWoTL's Dark Knights are too dang powerful to actually be able to appreciate them, as are all the sword skill units.

I was going to go on a response rant about how DK's don't really eclipse any of the other sword skill using units until I saw the bolded

My complaint about them revolves around the job requirements. For those of you who don't know, the Dark Knight requirements are:
Master Knight = 3750 JP
Master Black Mage = 7200 JP (JP costs are slightly higher in WotL compared to the NA original)
Level 8 Geomancer/Dragoon/Ninja/Samurai = 12,000 JP (job levels requirements are steeper after job level 2 in WotL too)

So basically, you need 22,950 JP to unlock them. And that's without factoring in the JP needed to unlock all of the "required" job classes. I know they're powerful, but unless you grind like a madman, you'll likely be steamrolling over everything by the time you get close to unlocking them.


Silvas, if being too powerful means you can't fully appreciate them, then does that mean you don't fully appreciate FFX-2's Dark Knights? I haven't played it in awhile, but as far as I remember, they were pretty damn powerful.

Sword skillers are just that much MORE powerful than almost anything else in FFT than the DKs of FFX-2 were of the other jobs in that game.  Songstress wasn't half bad if you unlocked their best abilities, Black Mage and Warrior could abuse elemental weaknesses where DK could not, Berserker is the best for rapid attacks, Gunners have Trigger Happy, which is the most powerful ability in the game if set up right, and of course you've got White Mage and Alchemist which can heal and so are very much needed in combination to the Dark Knight.  (Even if you give every DK the accessory that nullifies mp/hp costs, the hardest enemies in the game demand you have a healer.)

Basically they make everything else obsolete in FFT.  They do no such thing in FFX-2.  (Though they are quite powerful.)  The only way they even approach making everything else obsolete is that Darkness is unblockable.  That doesn't really save you against the enemies found in that via infinito dungeon.

- Black Mages lose their luster later in the game as more enemies without elemental weaknesses show up.
- Warriors suffer from the above problem and don't have a single multi-target attack.
- Berserkers' defenses are lacking, leaving them somewhat frail despite their HP.
- Are you referring to critical HP Gunner + Cat Nip? Awesome, but leaves you extremely vulnerable.

As for the other three you mentioned, those are more support oriented jobs that can't really be compared directly with DKs.

I never said that DKs made everything else useless in X-2. What I did say was that they are powerful. A physical attack or two was enough to kill most normal enemies, status spells could make other enemies a joke, and of course there was multi-target, defense ignoring, hard-hitting Darkness. They have high HP and defenses, so they could take plenty of blows. The only area I remember them lacking in was speed (agility?). And on top of all of that, they could become resistant to several dangerous statuses (Death, Stone, and Confuse come to mind). Combine them with a good support unit and you're golden.

Yeah you could use other job classes, but you could say the same for FFT and its sword skill users. The only thing that kept me from using a party of 2 DKs and an Alchemist was that the setup became stale and made things a little too easy at times.

I'm shocked you didn't mention the Mascot though...

Mascot doesn't even need to be mentioned.  It trumps everything else due to having multiple ability sets available, Ribbon, and other such goodies.

Quote from: "philsov"That's... usually the role of the main character in an RPG -- he's more or less an observer of everything that goes around him.

There's a difference between the character not knowing what's going on and not showing much care about it. Terra's a puppet until the WoR, like LD said. And she plays a puppet well.

She's got an interesting backstory and has a large effect on the story. The game just doesn't show much of her personality in it, so she seems kinda flat. If she had more scenes where she did something of her own accord, it might be different. Instead all the scenes she's got are the kids and the ending. There's the boat scene with Leo too, but it doesn't show much other than her confusion.
That's all I'm saying.


PS: Any story that's remotely character driven that has a passive main character is at a severe disadvantage. If everyone else is making all the decisions, the main character's about as interesting as a wooden plank. A character can be as deep as an ocean, but if they don't actually do anything, no one cares about them.

Whew..A few things to say..

My favorite (numerical) FF's:

1. FF XII (Damn Yiazmat though.... >=( )
2. FF VII
3. FF III

Concerning what Dominic NY18 said about Dark Knights for FFT: WotL :

Dark Knight's aren't necessarily over-powered (like you kind of said)
Depending on when you decide to grind (if you grind) the JP for it, you're level is naturally going to be high (Level 95 at Algus -Death Knight anybody?)

Of course with a higher level, the storyline enemies are going to be easy because they stay the same level (The highest level was..what? Around 50?)

This means, you could very well do a DK Ramza solo through the entire game (With the necessary status guarding equips).

But it by no rights, means the Dark Knight class is over-powered. If you do the degenerator trick down to level 1 (As a DK for the best results)

You will very well see that they don't do too much damage (Depending on the weapon you use >_> )

Concerning what SilvasRuin said in general about Dark Knights:

In FF III, Dark Knight's were very useful. Especially when you fought those monsters that split when you hit them. Of course, you could always grind to a level where you can OHK them, but DK's swords negate that effect (that's what they say at least)

Sure, their defense/vitality never got very high unlike Knights or Dragoons, but the Dark Knights could equip the Genji Armor (which you get in that Dark Knight cave place)

As far as I remember, the only other class that could equip Genji armor was the Ninja/Shinobi class? I could be wrong though, I haven't played for a while.

I played as a DK Luneth ever since I got the job and he has been awesome. He always did/had high damage outputs, and even though he tended to take a bit more damage than Knights/Dragoons, he was a bit faster than them and I believe could dodge better as well!

Sure, a couple times a Dragoon would have been better (Garuda pissed me off a few times) or where a Knight's high Vitality/Defense would have been useful (I believe...Goldor (that..gold guy >_< forget the name..)). But DK's has always helped me fight some tough bosses.

Though personally..My favorite class in FF III is a tie between Master Monk, and Ninja.

Master Monk has average Speed, High Vit and very good attack unarmed (when you get a high Job level)

Ninja's had High Speed, Average Attack, and a little better Vit growth (Though no way near Knight's or even DK's levels).

Then again...Ninja's could equip the Genji armor.... =/

My personal favorite class was the Ranger in FFIII, they can deal over 9,999 Damage (though it's not displayed) with their Barrage skill at high levels, it's very much worth it to train one up just for that.

Viking w/2 shields and taunting every round. Broken as fuck. I abused that setup for the last 50% of the game I think. Doesn't work 100% of the time but close enough to it.

Huh??

Viking with 2 shields?..Hm...Very good...Especially with a shield that can block Status Effects, like Aegis Shield..

I used to do solo's with a Red Mage, dual shields =/..Quick levels though =)

FF8, best storyline by far, best characters by far and pretty much love it overall.
Liked the battle system and weapons system alot, though i missed equiping armors and stuff.
But then again it was a nice change of pace from always changing your equipment, to rejunctioning GF's.

I can't be like hey FORGET you guys, FF8 is the best and you're too stupid to realize it, so I'll just say as it is the truth; Only my opinion

Haa..I liked FF 8. I probably would like it more if I could play through the game..I was pretty far on the actual PS1..Then the disk somehow broke D:

But now I have it downloaded on ePSXe..Though I'm too busy playing FFt, FF 1, FF 2, and FF 9 =P

But the Limit Breaks were unique for FF 8 ..Lion Heart FTW? ^^

FF8 is REALLY underated. (Has FFVII is WAY overated but i played it and enjoyed it myself.I even traded my FFVIII game to get FFVII but later i taken FFVIII back.)
Many says this game is the worst FF.
Comon this can't be worse that XIII...($$$$$$$)
But one thing i hated about it that is wen you are on the final disk and you are on the world map, you can't enter any towns anymore. (Protected by a...force field or something? Probably done because the disks memory was limited at that time.)

And my disks got the problem at freezing at cutscenes making the game unplayable sadly.


By the way what do you think about the FFXIV? Will this be a FAIL or a WIN?

I thought you couldn't enter towns because of the time compression thing

Quote from: "Zenius"I thought you couldn't enter towns because of the time compression thing

Your right actually...i just did not remember exatly wy.
Now i know.

I didn't really like FF8 cause you can junction 100 Waters and make yourself OP pretty early in the game

FF V FTW
It's a FF that allows true job mixing, all kinds of combos are allowed (x-fight + double wield) heck even Samurai with summon magic works.
It has a cheesy humor, without autistics, depressive and boring characters, you always wanted dead (7 and 8, I look at yours big sword wielders).

FFXIII is out tomorrow here in Japan
I WISH I HAD A PS3 SO BAD

It's coming out on 360 also, but I assume you mean you have neither.

(out of the list) I've only played the remake of 1, VII (nearly on disc 2) and X. Why doesn't this list have X-2, XI, or XII? Only room for 10 options?

I preferred 12 in terms of gameplay over the others I've played because it's somewhat more frantic (I play with minimal gambits) - but I preferred X overall because the story and characters nudged it ahead of XII. I'm glad I played XII before X because if I played X first, I wouldn't have appreciated them as much as I do.

Can't wait for FFXIII in March (I'd have it earlier if it wasn't for Microsoft though [allegedly]), the JRPG flood begins for this console gen in February!

Oddly, I'm more hyped for FFXIV though. Maybe it's because I've never played a 'real' MMO before.

I'd play FFXIV if it didn't have a monthly payment
Since XI had one, I'm assuming it will too

1. Final Fantasy V
2. Final Fantasy X
3. Final Fantasy VII
4. Final Fantasy IV
5. Final Fantasy IX

If tactics would be there, it would be number 1.

I have always preffered Final Fantasy 8, 10, and, 7 with the others lagging fairly far behind. I just could not get into them like a guy I know. I am terrible with Roman Numerals, so I may have misread the choices.

9 for sure. and wow, I am surprised that 9 is actually leading the poll. Zidane needed Steal because they want you to steal all the good items for the game (so you must have him at all times), he also has a powerful second form...

I like Zidane's character don't know why people don't like him. There's a ton of char. development in 9 much more than other FF games. They are all lovable and fairly balanced. Love love love the characters (not just your controllable ones, but even the villains and a lot of town folk). Even Moogles have character development.

The game also has my favorite soundtrack of the entire series (reminds me a lot of FF6). It is such a masterpiece, from beginning till the ending. Everything was so well put together. The story and characters are perfect. It's the only game that really deserves the name "Fantasy" in its title; the world is so complete, so fantasy-lke, yet it feels like you are living in the world when you play the game. Much more so than the other FF games imo. You know that "Disney" or "Pixar" films feeling? And I love how they explained a lot of things in the game to make things more "believable". Like how Summoners existed, etc.

Playing FF7 and FF8 were fun... but by the time I finished the game... it was more or less a drag on. I spent more time grinding and collecting stuff in 7/8 than actually being drawn into the story. FF6 would be my second vote if I had to choose. Wish they would completely redo FF6 someday though.

I wish FF9 had job classes.  Geomancer.

I wished that I would know wtf! is Zidane?

genome

Anyone else think Zidane kinda looks like Michael Jackson?  The nose!

tactics and IX

I've only played three FF games and they are Final Fantasy Tactics, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, and Final Fantasy 12, in that order. But in terms of favorite FF, it would be something like this:

1. Final Fantasy Tactics
2. Final Fantasy 12
3. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

Why can't I pick Tactics? =[

It's amazing how many people fail to notice the first post.

He clearly stated that this is for the numerical FFs only.

It is ASSUMED that FFT is everyone's number 1, regardless of whether anyone states otherwise.

Sheesh.

I don't want to sound like a total creep or anything, but I totally want to abduct, rape and murder all of you now.

Quote from: "Bastard Poetry"It's amazing how many people fail to notice the first post.

He clearly stated that this is for the numerical FFs only.

It is ASSUMED that FFT is everyone's number 1, regardless of whether anyone states otherwise.

Sheesh.

I don't want to sound like a total creep or anything, but I totally want to abduct, rape and murder all of you now.

Bastard.

Quote from: "Bastard Poetry"It's amazing how many people fail to notice the first post.

He clearly stated that this is for the numerical FFs only.

It is ASSUMED that FFT is everyone's number 1, regardless of whether anyone states otherwise.

Sheesh.

I don't want to sound like a total creep or anything, but I totally want to abduct, rape and murder all of you now.

 ROFLMAO

Quote from: "Bastard Poetry"It's amazing how many people fail to notice the first post.

He clearly stated that this is for the numerical FFs only.

It is ASSUMED that FFT is everyone's number 1, regardless of whether anyone states otherwise.

Sheesh.

I don't want to sound like a total creep or anything, but I totally want to abduct, rape and murder all of you now.

I have an excuse, it didn't say anything about only being numbered FFs when the topic was first started.

Yeah it did.

Don't try to backpedal argue defend yourself ad hominen de facto white-knight yourself.

SamuraiBUTTbelt.

Hope this helps.

Quote from: "Bastard Poetry"Yeah it did.

Don't try to backpedal argue defend yourself ad hominen de facto white-knight yourself.

SamuraiBUTTbelt.

Hope this helps.

BASTARD poetry, need I say more?

Why yooooooouuuuu!!!!

My favorite was FFXII. However, it's not on the list, so I just picked my second favorite, FFIX. But Tactics is one of the best games ever.
I also liked FFVII; as for the ones before (VI-less) I haven't really had the time to play them yet.

1. FFT
2. 7
3. 5 (GBA remake with Cannoneer FTW!)
4. 4 (GBA remake with all characters accessable at the end)
5. 1-2 Dawn of Souls (GBA remake of FF1 kicks ass)