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General => The Lounge => Topic started by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on March 01, 2012, 12:26:51 pm

Title: Ramza's Fate
Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on March 01, 2012, 12:26:51 pm
Not sure is this is old news or not, but take a look at this: https://twitter.com/#!/YasumiMatsuno/status/169572953686683648

Ramza is alive.  It had been debated back and forth, but now the author has confirms Ole Buttpants survived the final battle.
Title: Re: Ramza's Fate
Post by: 3lric on March 01, 2012, 12:32:33 pm
I thought the video after the final battle kinda confirmed that already? lol
Title: Re: Ramza's Fate
Post by: Dome on March 01, 2012, 12:36:53 pm
http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=8463.0
Title: Re: Ramza's Fate
Post by: GeneralStrife on March 01, 2012, 12:59:02 pm
I knew he was alive before the tweet!
Title: Re: Ramza's Fate
Post by: EmmaNigma on March 01, 2012, 01:34:08 pm
Quote from: GeneralStrife on March 01, 2012, 12:59:02 pm
I knew he was alive before the tweet!


GeneralStrife = Hipster
Title: Re: Ramza's Fate
Post by: GeneralStrife on March 01, 2012, 01:38:03 pm
Quote from: Qwerinty on March 01, 2012, 01:34:08 pm
GeneralStrife = Hipster

Nah.
Title: Re: Ramza's Fate
Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on March 01, 2012, 04:45:18 pm
Dang.  It wasn't even off the first page of the forum.  I'm a dunce.  It was even similarly titled.
Title: Re: Ramza's Fate
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on March 01, 2012, 05:52:42 pm
Quote from: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on March 01, 2012, 12:26:51 pmOle Buttpants


Requesting a hack featuring an aged Ramza, akin to T.G. Cid in terms of bearing and swordskills, where he is known by his alias Ole Buttpants.  Or at least a sprite.

Could take place in Ogre Battle universe.

Ole Buttpants must be rather heavier than young Ramza, and he must have a Mustache.  Bonus points for aged Alma, and her inbred children.
Title: Re: Ramza's Fate
Post by: philsov on March 03, 2012, 11:18:16 am
the explosion blew him to safety.
Title: Re: Ramza's Fate
Post by: Eternal on March 03, 2012, 02:11:06 pm
I assume the Occuria from FFXII have something to do with it. The Occuria created the Lucavi who rebelled against them later. Therefore, it'd make sense that they'd give some kind of salvation to Ramza for defeating them again.
Title: Re: Ramza's Fate
Post by: Kaijyuu on March 03, 2012, 02:16:43 pm
Normal video game logic covers it, I think. Getting stabbed will kill pretty much anyone (especially with crappy medieval medicine), but you can survive multiple sword slashes to the face.


I'd still prefer that he dies, though. Seems a cop out to make a "happy" ending to make him live.
Title: Re: Ramza's Fate
Post by: Eternal on March 03, 2012, 02:21:25 pm
It's not all that happy if you think about it. Forced to be away from home, his brothers dead, branded an outcast while his former best friend and manipulative bastard becomes King.
Title: Re: Ramza's Fate
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on March 03, 2012, 04:46:11 pm
Said manipulative bastard later losing his life to the woman he may, or may not, have loved.

Who says that Ramza didn't use the Holy Stones to teleport out of there, or that they didn't either absorb the blast or protect the stone bearer's from it?  We know that the stones can let you resurrect the dead (rafa raised malak), so it depends on the user's intentions and emotions.

I dislike using a retcon (cough ffxii cough) to fix plot holes, but we can use what we observed about nethicite absorbing magic, and released mist, to guess how he survived.  Especially since the zodiac monsters release mist when they are defeated.
Title: Re: Ramza's Fate
Post by: philsov on March 03, 2012, 07:56:39 pm
QuoteSaid manipulative bastard later losing his life to the woman he may, or may not, have loved.


No, that was established when the game was released.  "King Delita lived on to have a long and peaceful reign."  He very likely did love her, and he killed her, leaving him a very strong King Nothing sort of role.  Which... is only fitting for the bastard.
Title: Re: Ramza's Fate
Post by: Notsoclvr on March 04, 2012, 03:50:43 am
I always kind of figured Ramza lived. Just because, well I liked Ramza. It was Delita who I think had a more ambiguous fate. I like to think that he died after the camera panned up. Probably because I think Delita is a douche.
Title: Re: Ramza's Fate
Post by: Kaijyuu on March 04, 2012, 08:55:14 am
Delita's awesome. I love to hate the jackass. Way better written character than mr flat as a pancake beacon of goodness Ramza.
Title: Re: Ramza's Fate
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on March 04, 2012, 03:50:17 pm
Quote from: philsov on March 03, 2012, 07:56:39 pm
No, that was established when the game was released.  "King Delita lived on to have a long and peaceful reign."  He very likely did love her, and he killed her, leaving him a very strong King Nothing sort of role.  Which... is only fitting for the bastard.

So he survived her attempt on his life?

Quote from: Kaijyuu on March 04, 2012, 08:55:14 am
Delita's awesome. I love to hate the jackass. Way better written character than mr flat as a pancake beacon of goodness Ramza.


Bartender: What'll it be?
Ramza: I'll have a .... milk.  Straight.
Bartender: Get the fuck out of my pub.