Title: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on April 21, 2010, 10:29:16 pm
Post by: Lydyn on April 21, 2010, 10:29:16 pm
Inspiration: The basis of the patch had been the idea of giving each class an exclusive weapon, such as giving samurais only katanas and allowing no one else to wield them besides Samurais. That was the basis anyways, but it's since grown from several ideas both from my own mind and paths other people on IRC have lead me down.
Goal: To provide an alternative battle system to the original game. Changes to almost everything including (but not limited to) items, jobs, monsters, battle events, abilities, special characters, weapons, armor, and battle set-up.
Preview Video: RevisedPreview_001 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4W4dJ4FMjk) (10 minutes long)
Screenshots
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/Lydyn_Whirlwind/TitleSample1.png)
Job Tree
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/Lydyn_Whirlwind/JobTreeRevised.png)
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Comments: For now, I'd just like to thank everyone for all the help - and you know who you are! I've been given some awesome ideas and advice concerning the making of this so far and look forward to more suggestions. Thankfully, no one has really suggested anything that's out of place for this patch, so it's nice to know that the community has at least a feel for what I'm getting at. Anyways, without further ado, the changelog!
Changelog
Class Changes
Special Classes
General Changes
Glitches
Updates
Link to PPF: FFT_Revisedv013 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BGS5Z7HG) (Ch.1 - Ch.2 is done.)
Note: Make sure to extend your ISO using the newest ShiShi (just open up a clean ISO) before applying this patch or the sprite changes will not occur!
Goal: To provide an alternative battle system to the original game. Changes to almost everything including (but not limited to) items, jobs, monsters, battle events, abilities, special characters, weapons, armor, and battle set-up.
Preview Video: RevisedPreview_001 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4W4dJ4FMjk) (10 minutes long)
Screenshots
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/Lydyn_Whirlwind/TitleSample1.png)
Job Tree
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/Lydyn_Whirlwind/JobTreeRevised.png)
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Comments: For now, I'd just like to thank everyone for all the help - and you know who you are! I've been given some awesome ideas and advice concerning the making of this so far and look forward to more suggestions. Thankfully, no one has really suggested anything that's out of place for this patch, so it's nice to know that the community has at least a feel for what I'm getting at. Anyways, without further ado, the changelog!
Changelog
Class Changes
Soldier
• Equip: Blades
• Skillset: Basic Art
•• Stab: A basic thrusting attack. (Piercing)
•• Cross-Over: An upwards slash. (Slashing)
•• Falling Blade: A heavy downward attack. (Slashing)
•• Blitz: A multi-stab attack. (Piercing, Added Attack: 25% Stab chance)
•• Ravange: A multi-slash attack. (Slashing, Added Attack: 25% Cross-Over chance)
•• Adrenaline: Use battle stress to your advantage. (Add: Berserk and Regen)
•• Parry: Guard against incoming attacks. (Add: Defend)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Caution, Monster Skill
Chemist
• Equip: Crossbows
• Skillset: Item
• R/S/M: Auto-Potion, Maintenance, Move-Find item
Blade Dancer
• Equip: Wakizashi
• Skillset: Blade Skill
•• Whirlwind: Spin with weapon in hand. (Slashing)
•• Flower's Quarrel: An attack that strikes innocence. (Slashing, Add: Innocent)
•• Iaijutsu: Draw the blade with inhuman speed. (Slashing, Add: Slow)
•• Nothern Lights: An attack that unleashes inner energies. (Slashing, 2 range)
•• Tempest: Spin with weapon in hand, invoking the wind. (Wood)
•• Silf's Revenge: Use the legendary wrath of the wind. (Piercing, Add: Slow)
•• Ifrit's Fury: Invoke the flame's rage. (Slashing, Add: Berserk)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Counter, Attack Up
Archer
• Equip: Bows
• Skillset: Aim
•• Power Shot: A powered up shot. (Piercing)
•• Rapid Shot: A multi-arrow attack. (Piercing, Added Attack: 25% Power Shot chance)
•• Feathers of the Wind: A shot guided by the winds. (Wood)
•• Ray of Light: An arrow infused with holy energy. (Heals HP and MP)
•• Cripple: An aimed shot for the legs. (Add: Slow or Don't Move)
•• Flight: Channels the power of the wind to bolster speed. (Add: Haste)
•• Soaring Dragon: Summons a dragon spirit to drain. (Drains a tiny amount of HP)
•• [Secret Skill]
• A/S/M: Gilgame Heart, Secret Hunt
Priest
• Equip: Stave
• Skillset: Holy Magic
•• Heal: Gather holy energies to close wounds. (Heal some wounds)
•• Healara: Gather holy energies to close wounds. (Heal moderate wounds)
•• Healaga: Gather holy energies to close wounds. (Heal heavy wounds)
•• Healaja: Gather holy energies to close wounds. (Heal fatal wounds)
•• Raise: The priest calls back the soul from the river. (Revives character)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Magic Defense Up, MP Restore
Wizard
• Equip: Rod & Wand
• Skillset: Spellbook
•• Quake I: Summon the spirit of earth. (Earth)
•• Fire II: Summon the spirit of fire. (Fire)
•• Quake III: Summon the spirit of earth. (Earth)
•• Fire IV: Summon the spirit of fire. (Fire)
•• Water I: Summon the spirit of water. (Water)
•• Silva I: Summon the spirit of the forest. (Wood)
•• Thunder I: Summon the spirit of lightning. (Metal)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Magic Attack Up
Mage
• Equip: Rod & Wand
• Skillset: Magic
•• Water I: Summon the spirit of earth. (Water, Add: Poison)
•• Thunder II: Summon the spirit of lightning. (Metal, Add: Darkness)
•• Water III: Summon the spirit of water. (Water, Add: Poison)
•• Thunder IV: Summon the spirit of lightning. (Metal, Add: Darkness)
•• Quake II: Summon the spirit of earth. (Earth, Add: Slow)
•• Silva II: Summon the spirit of the forest. (Wood, Add: Float)
•• Fire II: Summon the spirit of fire. (Fire, Add: Berserk)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Counter Magic
Warlock
• Equip: Staff
• Skillset: Incantation
•• Silva I: Summon the spirit of the forest. (Wood, Add: Poison)
•• Silva II: Summon the spirit of the forest. (Wood, Add: Poison and Float)
•• Silva III: Summon the spirit of the forest. (Wood, Add: Poison and Float)
•• Spire: Earth spirits come from below. (Fire, Add: Confusion and Slow)
•• Razor Leaf: Forest spirits surround the enemy. (Wood, Add: Poison and Addle)
•• Flames: Fire spirits emit from within. (Fire, Add: Berserk and Oil)
•• Snowflake: Water spirits gather at your fingertips. (Water, Add: Stop)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Half of MP
Cleric
• Equip: Books
• Skillset: White Magic
•• Cure: Gather holy energies to close wounds. (Heal small wounds)
•• Cura: Gather holy energies to close wounds. (Heal some wounds)
•• Curaga: Gather holy energies to close wounds. (Heal moderate wounds)
•• Curaja: Gather holy energies to close wounds. (Heal heavy wounds)
•• Esuna: Gather holy energies to clean the body. (Cures ailments)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Defense Up, Absorb Used MP
Druid
• Equip: Axes
• Skillset: Elemental
•• Earth's Shield: The earth shields the target. (Add: Protect)
•• Water's Reflection: The water reflects onto the target. (Add: Reflect)
•• Forest's Cover: The forest covers the target. (Add: Shell)
•• Nature's Pulse: Nature pulses through the air. (Add: Regen)
•• Cat's Grace: Grant's the grace of a cat. (Add: Haste)
•• Druid's Faith: The druid's faith in mother nature, becomes the target's faith. (Add: Faith)
•• Reincarnation: The seed of new life is planted. (Add: Reraise)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Walk on Water, Move on Lava, Regenerator
Spellblade
• Equip: Swords and Gunblades
• Skillset: Bullet
•• Flameberge: Loads a Fire Red bullet. (Fire)
•• Liquid Steel: Loads a Water Blue bullet. (Water)
•• Thunderblade: Loads a Lightning Yellow bullet. (Metal)
•• Stoneblade: Loads a Gaia Brown bullet. (Earth)
•• Skycutter: Loads an Aero Black bullet. (Wood)
•• Mjolnir: Loads an Ash Gray bullet. (Crushing)
•• Lionheart: Loads a Soul Gunmetal bullet. (Piercing)
•• Umbra: Loads a Poison Black bullet. (Slashing)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Float, Two Hands
• Equip: Blades
• Skillset: Basic Art
•• Stab: A basic thrusting attack. (Piercing)
•• Cross-Over: An upwards slash. (Slashing)
•• Falling Blade: A heavy downward attack. (Slashing)
•• Blitz: A multi-stab attack. (Piercing, Added Attack: 25% Stab chance)
•• Ravange: A multi-slash attack. (Slashing, Added Attack: 25% Cross-Over chance)
•• Adrenaline: Use battle stress to your advantage. (Add: Berserk and Regen)
•• Parry: Guard against incoming attacks. (Add: Defend)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Caution, Monster Skill
Chemist
• Equip: Crossbows
• Skillset: Item
• R/S/M: Auto-Potion, Maintenance, Move-Find item
Blade Dancer
• Equip: Wakizashi
• Skillset: Blade Skill
•• Whirlwind: Spin with weapon in hand. (Slashing)
•• Flower's Quarrel: An attack that strikes innocence. (Slashing, Add: Innocent)
•• Iaijutsu: Draw the blade with inhuman speed. (Slashing, Add: Slow)
•• Nothern Lights: An attack that unleashes inner energies. (Slashing, 2 range)
•• Tempest: Spin with weapon in hand, invoking the wind. (Wood)
•• Silf's Revenge: Use the legendary wrath of the wind. (Piercing, Add: Slow)
•• Ifrit's Fury: Invoke the flame's rage. (Slashing, Add: Berserk)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Counter, Attack Up
Archer
• Equip: Bows
• Skillset: Aim
•• Power Shot: A powered up shot. (Piercing)
•• Rapid Shot: A multi-arrow attack. (Piercing, Added Attack: 25% Power Shot chance)
•• Feathers of the Wind: A shot guided by the winds. (Wood)
•• Ray of Light: An arrow infused with holy energy. (Heals HP and MP)
•• Cripple: An aimed shot for the legs. (Add: Slow or Don't Move)
•• Flight: Channels the power of the wind to bolster speed. (Add: Haste)
•• Soaring Dragon: Summons a dragon spirit to drain. (Drains a tiny amount of HP)
•• [Secret Skill]
• A/S/M: Gilgame Heart, Secret Hunt
Priest
• Equip: Stave
• Skillset: Holy Magic
•• Heal: Gather holy energies to close wounds. (Heal some wounds)
•• Healara: Gather holy energies to close wounds. (Heal moderate wounds)
•• Healaga: Gather holy energies to close wounds. (Heal heavy wounds)
•• Healaja: Gather holy energies to close wounds. (Heal fatal wounds)
•• Raise: The priest calls back the soul from the river. (Revives character)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Magic Defense Up, MP Restore
Wizard
• Equip: Rod & Wand
• Skillset: Spellbook
•• Quake I: Summon the spirit of earth. (Earth)
•• Fire II: Summon the spirit of fire. (Fire)
•• Quake III: Summon the spirit of earth. (Earth)
•• Fire IV: Summon the spirit of fire. (Fire)
•• Water I: Summon the spirit of water. (Water)
•• Silva I: Summon the spirit of the forest. (Wood)
•• Thunder I: Summon the spirit of lightning. (Metal)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Magic Attack Up
Mage
• Equip: Rod & Wand
• Skillset: Magic
•• Water I: Summon the spirit of earth. (Water, Add: Poison)
•• Thunder II: Summon the spirit of lightning. (Metal, Add: Darkness)
•• Water III: Summon the spirit of water. (Water, Add: Poison)
•• Thunder IV: Summon the spirit of lightning. (Metal, Add: Darkness)
•• Quake II: Summon the spirit of earth. (Earth, Add: Slow)
•• Silva II: Summon the spirit of the forest. (Wood, Add: Float)
•• Fire II: Summon the spirit of fire. (Fire, Add: Berserk)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Counter Magic
Warlock
• Equip: Staff
• Skillset: Incantation
•• Silva I: Summon the spirit of the forest. (Wood, Add: Poison)
•• Silva II: Summon the spirit of the forest. (Wood, Add: Poison and Float)
•• Silva III: Summon the spirit of the forest. (Wood, Add: Poison and Float)
•• Spire: Earth spirits come from below. (Fire, Add: Confusion and Slow)
•• Razor Leaf: Forest spirits surround the enemy. (Wood, Add: Poison and Addle)
•• Flames: Fire spirits emit from within. (Fire, Add: Berserk and Oil)
•• Snowflake: Water spirits gather at your fingertips. (Water, Add: Stop)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Half of MP
Cleric
• Equip: Books
• Skillset: White Magic
•• Cure: Gather holy energies to close wounds. (Heal small wounds)
•• Cura: Gather holy energies to close wounds. (Heal some wounds)
•• Curaga: Gather holy energies to close wounds. (Heal moderate wounds)
•• Curaja: Gather holy energies to close wounds. (Heal heavy wounds)
•• Esuna: Gather holy energies to clean the body. (Cures ailments)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Defense Up, Absorb Used MP
Druid
• Equip: Axes
• Skillset: Elemental
•• Earth's Shield: The earth shields the target. (Add: Protect)
•• Water's Reflection: The water reflects onto the target. (Add: Reflect)
•• Forest's Cover: The forest covers the target. (Add: Shell)
•• Nature's Pulse: Nature pulses through the air. (Add: Regen)
•• Cat's Grace: Grant's the grace of a cat. (Add: Haste)
•• Druid's Faith: The druid's faith in mother nature, becomes the target's faith. (Add: Faith)
•• Reincarnation: The seed of new life is planted. (Add: Reraise)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Walk on Water, Move on Lava, Regenerator
Spellblade
• Equip: Swords and Gunblades
• Skillset: Bullet
•• Flameberge: Loads a Fire Red bullet. (Fire)
•• Liquid Steel: Loads a Water Blue bullet. (Water)
•• Thunderblade: Loads a Lightning Yellow bullet. (Metal)
•• Stoneblade: Loads a Gaia Brown bullet. (Earth)
•• Skycutter: Loads an Aero Black bullet. (Wood)
•• Mjolnir: Loads an Ash Gray bullet. (Crushing)
•• Lionheart: Loads a Soul Gunmetal bullet. (Piercing)
•• Umbra: Loads a Poison Black bullet. (Slashing)
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Float, Two Hands
Special Classes
Aura Blade (Ramza)
• Equip: Swords and Gunblades
• Skillset Emanate Aura
•• Heal
•• Stab
•• Cross-Over
•• Whirlwind
•• Kain's Lance: An attack that resembles the legendary lance. (Piercing, 2 range)
•• Masamune: An attck that resembles the legendary blade. (Slashing)
•• Rune Blade: Inciting runes upon the blade, it breaks the will of an opponent. (MP damage)
•• [Secret Skill]
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Dragon Spirit, Half of MP
Knight (Agrias)
• Equip: Legendary Knight Blades
• Skillset: Chivalry
•• Enchanted Blade: The knight enchants the blade. (Energy)
•• Backlash: A downwards and upwards slash that causes the enemy to stumble back. (Slashing, Chance of knockback)
•• Sonic Wave: With a mightly swing, a wave of power is conjured. (Wood, 4 range)
•• Ignition Break: Enchanting the blade with energy, the blade explodes into flames. (Fire)
•• Resilience: Using self-determination, the knight pushes herself onward. (Heal some wounds, Self-only)
•• Fallen Star: Enchanted with star dust, this attack explodes in front of the knight. (Energy)
•• Twilight: Mixing star dust and sand, this attack shoots from the wielder. (Energy)
•• [Secret Skill]
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Retaliate, Two Hands
• Equip: Swords and Gunblades
• Skillset Emanate Aura
•• Heal
•• Stab
•• Cross-Over
•• Whirlwind
•• Kain's Lance: An attack that resembles the legendary lance. (Piercing, 2 range)
•• Masamune: An attck that resembles the legendary blade. (Slashing)
•• Rune Blade: Inciting runes upon the blade, it breaks the will of an opponent. (MP damage)
•• [Secret Skill]
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Dragon Spirit, Half of MP
Knight (Agrias)
• Equip: Legendary Knight Blades
• Skillset: Chivalry
•• Enchanted Blade: The knight enchants the blade. (Energy)
•• Backlash: A downwards and upwards slash that causes the enemy to stumble back. (Slashing, Chance of knockback)
•• Sonic Wave: With a mightly swing, a wave of power is conjured. (Wood, 4 range)
•• Ignition Break: Enchanting the blade with energy, the blade explodes into flames. (Fire)
•• Resilience: Using self-determination, the knight pushes herself onward. (Heal some wounds, Self-only)
•• Fallen Star: Enchanted with star dust, this attack explodes in front of the knight. (Energy)
•• Twilight: Mixing star dust and sand, this attack shoots from the wielder. (Energy)
•• [Secret Skill]
•• [Secret Skill]
• R/S/M: Retaliate, Two Hands
General Changes
• Gil earned lowered
• All item prices adjusted
• Potions more expensive
• Weight of armor is reflected via speed
• Shield and Mantle evasion lowered
• Gobal C-Ev
• Item innate all
• All growths are the same, but multipliers do change
• Changed Zodiacs
• Monster Growth/Multiplers & Elements
• Job Levels:
Level 1: 100 JP
Level 2: 250 JP
Level 3: 500 JP
Level 4: 1,000 JP
Level 5: 1,250 JP
Level 6: 1,500 JP
Level 7: 1,750 JP
Level 8: 9,999 JP
• All item prices adjusted
• Potions more expensive
• Weight of armor is reflected via speed
• Shield and Mantle evasion lowered
• Gobal C-Ev
• Item innate all
• All growths are the same, but multipliers do change
• Changed Zodiacs
• Monster Growth/Multiplers & Elements
• Job Levels:
Level 1: 100 JP
Level 2: 250 JP
Level 3: 500 JP
Level 4: 1,000 JP
Level 5: 1,250 JP
Level 6: 1,500 JP
Level 7: 1,750 JP
Level 8: 9,999 JP
Glitches
• Some event scenes with the original sprites will glitch when making unusual movements (such as turning their head).
• Weapon in battle sprites (when weapon is being used to attack) is messed up, though it's hard to notice at times. No one has identified a solution yet.
• Queklain's name is still displayed as Queklain, despite it being someone else entirely. It'll be fixed in time.
• Crystals and Treasures appear as 'black holes.'
• Weapon in battle sprites (when weapon is being used to attack) is messed up, though it's hard to notice at times. No one has identified a solution yet.
• Queklain's name is still displayed as Queklain, despite it being someone else entirely. It'll be fixed in time.
• Crystals and Treasures appear as 'black holes.'
Updates
• v01 to v011: Modified some of the monsters abilities, especially Chocobo.
• v011 to v012: Edited monster HP - Still dangerous, but a lot less 'I'm gonna die' feeling. Also, completely reworked elemental system to reflect Wu Xing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_Xing). Changed all [mage tier] spells to reflect the new element system.
• v012 to v013: ENTD changes up to chapter 2. Replaced Queklain with another boss. Changed saving screen. Got a base done for all monsters.
• v011 to v012: Edited monster HP - Still dangerous, but a lot less 'I'm gonna die' feeling. Also, completely reworked elemental system to reflect Wu Xing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_Xing). Changed all [mage tier] spells to reflect the new element system.
• v012 to v013: ENTD changes up to chapter 2. Replaced Queklain with another boss. Changed saving screen. Got a base done for all monsters.
Link to PPF: FFT_Revisedv013 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BGS5Z7HG) (Ch.1 - Ch.2 is done.)
Note: Make sure to extend your ISO using the newest ShiShi (just open up a clean ISO) before applying this patch or the sprite changes will not occur!
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: DeadManWalking on April 21, 2010, 11:40:21 pm
Post by: DeadManWalking on April 21, 2010, 11:40:21 pm
Might want to explain what the skills do.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Timbo on April 21, 2010, 11:50:57 pm
Post by: Timbo on April 21, 2010, 11:50:57 pm
You made item innate for all units. I thought about doing that but I was worried that it was too unbalanced. Have you considered capping the amount of items per battle to keep things from getting out of hand.
Oh, and explain the skills a bit more. I'm pretty interested in some of them.
Oh, and explain the skills a bit more. I'm pretty interested in some of them.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on April 22, 2010, 12:55:26 am
Post by: Lydyn on April 22, 2010, 12:55:26 am
Put the descriptions on skills, just as they show up in the game itself.
Edit: About items (potions) ... they're expensive. 'Nough said.
Edit: About items (potions) ... they're expensive. 'Nough said.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on April 22, 2010, 11:45:28 am
Post by: Lydyn on April 22, 2010, 11:45:28 am
Just threw up a small update. Found out yesterday testing my own patch that a Chocobo was healing for 49 HP when it only had 37 to begin with. Yikes. It's lowered now.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Kagebunji on April 24, 2010, 06:57:38 am
Post by: Kagebunji on April 24, 2010, 06:57:38 am
I love the title screen.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Kagebunji on April 24, 2010, 09:09:13 am
Post by: Kagebunji on April 24, 2010, 09:09:13 am
Actually, after reading everything I wonder if there will be more special classes or only Ramuza and Aguri. And I feel like there is a small amount of jobs in general.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on April 24, 2010, 12:37:04 pm
Post by: Lydyn on April 24, 2010, 12:37:04 pm
There's going to be two more special characters, and yes, there's a limited amount of jobs. The exclusive weapon system has seen to this ... though I suppose in reality since there are some classes that share weapons, we could pair up some more classes if that becomes the popular idea.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Kagebunji on April 24, 2010, 12:44:20 pm
Post by: Kagebunji on April 24, 2010, 12:44:20 pm
I would love to see more classes. And also I am incredibly curious to see sprite of this Gunblade weapon, or is it recolor of some weapon?
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on April 24, 2010, 05:11:18 pm
Post by: Lydyn on April 24, 2010, 05:11:18 pm
Recolor of a sword. If I get involved later with it, I may come up with a gunblade sprite, but it's a low priority.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on April 25, 2010, 01:19:49 am
Post by: Lydyn on April 25, 2010, 01:19:49 am
Le major update (as far as betas go)! Reworked the entire elemental system to reflect Wu Xing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_Xing). Mage spells, weapons, and a couple Spellblade spells have been changed to reflect this.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Mari on April 26, 2010, 05:57:49 am
Post by: Mari on April 26, 2010, 05:57:49 am
Going to play a battle a day!
Very pretty effects for the skills! I love them!
First battle was over quicker than I knew what was going on..
Rad cowered in the corner for the whole battle, for some reason!
Alicie died and Agrias was poisoned, first turn.
Gafgarion was disabled and Agrias died from poison/crits, second turn.
And Gafgarion died before he did anything useful a couple turns later.
It was Lavian and Ramza against the whole team!
Needless to say, we lost. xD
Very pretty effects for the skills! I love them!
First battle was over quicker than I knew what was going on..
Rad cowered in the corner for the whole battle, for some reason!
Alicie died and Agrias was poisoned, first turn.
Gafgarion was disabled and Agrias died from poison/crits, second turn.
And Gafgarion died before he did anything useful a couple turns later.
It was Lavian and Ramza against the whole team!
Needless to say, we lost. xD
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on April 26, 2010, 07:35:22 pm
Post by: Lydyn on April 26, 2010, 07:35:22 pm
Okay, I'm pretty sure it was due to the fact that it was a completely new system to you and that the enemy had all the skills unlocked. I recently told someone that the first battle should never be based on luck either ... so I went ahead and removed the all skills for the enemy and gave you plenty to look over. Why Rad would run away is beyond me, however ... but his AI was always a little strange outside of vanilla. I hope it helps ... once I upload it later tonight. (I'll edit this to let you know.)
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Mari on April 26, 2010, 08:22:19 pm
Post by: Mari on April 26, 2010, 08:22:19 pm
Nope, I did just fine in the battle. (So did Lavian) As I said, Lavian and I were the only ones fighting.
But two vs a whole team doesn't work in the first battle. We killed most of them, but they had raise and phoenix downs, and lots of long range attacks!
I did it again and won, then did next battle and had no problems, and even the next battle with no problems.
Only thing that seems to be any problems is the weapon sprites for pretty much everything!
But two vs a whole team doesn't work in the first battle. We killed most of them, but they had raise and phoenix downs, and lots of long range attacks!
I did it again and won, then did next battle and had no problems, and even the next battle with no problems.
Only thing that seems to be any problems is the weapon sprites for pretty much everything!
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on April 26, 2010, 08:43:37 pm
Post by: Lydyn on April 26, 2010, 08:43:37 pm
Quote from: "Mari"Only thing that seems to be any problems is the weapon sprites for pretty much everything!
Yes, I've posted this up and only one person has commented on the glitch ever working, but hasn't provided a solution for me. So, it might have to be when I get into the sprite editing (more heavily than now) that I might have to try and figure out the battle sprites and how to switch them... it's hard saying.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Mari on April 26, 2010, 08:56:22 pm
Post by: Mari on April 26, 2010, 08:56:22 pm
Oh, I do have one suggestion!
All your effects are so pretty from the starting jobs, except one!
Whirlwind!
He just slashes a normal attack at one enemy and somehow every enemy around him gets hit!
Is there anything you could add to that to make it more whirlwindy?
All your effects are so pretty from the starting jobs, except one!
Whirlwind!
He just slashes a normal attack at one enemy and somehow every enemy around him gets hit!
Is there anything you could add to that to make it more whirlwindy?
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on April 26, 2010, 08:59:34 pm
Post by: Lydyn on April 26, 2010, 08:59:34 pm
Unless I make it a Spin Fist animation ... I'm fairly certain there's nothing else that'll work, but since the person is using a weapon, it wouldn't look right either. If you find an animation that might work, lemme know.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Zaen on April 26, 2010, 11:23:20 pm
Post by: Zaen on April 26, 2010, 11:23:20 pm
Maybe a Draw Out animation? It could be like a shockwave of sorts.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on April 30, 2010, 01:33:16 am
Post by: Lydyn on April 30, 2010, 01:33:16 am
FFT: Revised v0.13 is uploaded. Feel free to test and enjoy it!
• v012 to v013: ENTD changes up to chapter 2. Replaced Queklain with another boss. Changed saving screen. Got a base done for all monsters.
• v012 to v013: ENTD changes up to chapter 2. Replaced Queklain with another boss. Changed saving screen. Got a base done for all monsters.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on May 02, 2010, 02:06:45 pm
Post by: Lydyn on May 02, 2010, 02:06:45 pm
Current plans for future updates include replacing Vormav with a female leader (yet to have a name), replacing the rest of the zodiacs with Espers - Alexander included. More ENTD changes, obviously ... more changes to monsters and their skills - which also includes a more deadly bad breath that pretty much does all negative status. Haven't yet, but I'm going to add the oil weak against fire and float weak against wind as well (I don't believe this applies to the movement, however).
Do note there is many more changes than what's listed here - in fact, too many to list. I have reworked classes, job levels, items, prices, monsters, [soon to be] poaching, encounters, elemental system ... and likely a bunch more that doesn't come right to mind. Just be sure to read descriptions and it'll help a lot. Pretend you're playing vanilla for the very first time. =D
Also, Shiva preview/tease;
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/Lydyn_Whirlwind/ShivaExample.png)
Do note there is many more changes than what's listed here - in fact, too many to list. I have reworked classes, job levels, items, prices, monsters, [soon to be] poaching, encounters, elemental system ... and likely a bunch more that doesn't come right to mind. Just be sure to read descriptions and it'll help a lot. Pretend you're playing vanilla for the very first time. =D
Also, Shiva preview/tease;
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/Lydyn_Whirlwind/ShivaExample.png)
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Kagebunji on May 02, 2010, 02:59:19 pm
Post by: Kagebunji on May 02, 2010, 02:59:19 pm
Damn, this is cool. I just advise to do something with hair, straight copy of Ovelia's hair is not working. Either borrow hair from one of the sprites in main, or do custom one yourself(I would create my own). Good job! Also, zou might want to do something with those dark blues, kinda killing the contrast, and it is too dark.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on May 02, 2010, 03:21:01 pm
Post by: Lydyn on May 02, 2010, 03:21:01 pm
Quote from: "Kagebunji"Damn, this is cool. I just advise to do something with hair, straight copy of Ovelia's hair is not working.
Not working? How so?
As for the blues .. I can try and make them a little lighter, but if I make them too light, then it's too hard to tell the difference. I suppose I can use the silvers off of her bra.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Kagebunji on May 02, 2010, 05:17:03 pm
Post by: Kagebunji on May 02, 2010, 05:17:03 pm
Make it lighter, and give some green-ish(but REALLY slightly)color to it, Also you might think about using Shrine Knight cloth for the legs, it looks good on Shiva. Damn, too bad I cannot get Asmo's concept.
Ovelia's hair isn't working, this is Ovelia's hair and hers only, it looks just wrong on other sprites. Aim for something more custom.
Ovelia's hair isn't working, this is Ovelia's hair and hers only, it looks just wrong on other sprites. Aim for something more custom.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: The Damned on May 02, 2010, 06:02:26 pm
Post by: The Damned on May 02, 2010, 06:02:26 pm
Quote from: "Lydyn"Haven't yet, but I'm going to add the oil weak against fire and float weak against wind as well (I don't believe this applies to the movement, however).
The "float weak against wind" part of Razele's ASM was confirmed by formerdeathcrops about a month ago to not work at all, so really it's only "oil weak against fire", which is arguably better.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: RavenOfRazgriz on May 02, 2010, 06:32:27 pm
Post by: RavenOfRazgriz on May 02, 2010, 06:32:27 pm
Quote from: "The Damned"Quote from: "Lydyn"Haven't yet, but I'm going to add the oil weak against fire and float weak against wind as well (I don't believe this applies to the movement, however).
The "float weak against wind" part of Razele's ASM was confirmed by formerdeathcrops about a month ago to not work at all, so really it's only "oil weak against fire", which is arguably better.
Except Eternal at least says the Float weak to Wind thing works for him. I've not tested it yet so I can't confirm whose right there.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Xifanie on May 02, 2010, 06:51:30 pm
Post by: Xifanie on May 02, 2010, 06:51:30 pm
Concerning Razele's hack... I think it works for the float movement ability but not the float status?
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: formerdeathcorps on May 02, 2010, 06:56:46 pm
Post by: formerdeathcorps on May 02, 2010, 06:56:46 pm
Quote from: "Zodiac"Concerning Razele's hack... I think it works for the float movement ability but not the float status?
I checked both. It doesn't work for either.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Xifanie on May 02, 2010, 07:00:53 pm
Post by: Xifanie on May 02, 2010, 07:00:53 pm
Quote from: "formerdeathcorps"I checked both. It doesn't work for either.I can OHKO bombs with Aero in ET's patch. Double damage.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: The Damned on May 02, 2010, 07:07:18 pm
Post by: The Damned on May 02, 2010, 07:07:18 pm
Hmmm...I wonder why that would be.
*remembers testing it and finding out that it didn't seem to work either...then again his Bombs have Always: Float instead of Float movement*
Also, I had thought it was the other way around: that it was supposed to work for Float status but not Float movement.
IMO, if it's only the movement, than that's quite unwanted. But this isn't the thread for that....
*remembers testing it and finding out that it didn't seem to work either...then again his Bombs have Always: Float instead of Float movement*
Also, I had thought it was the other way around: that it was supposed to work for Float status but not Float movement.
IMO, if it's only the movement, than that's quite unwanted. But this isn't the thread for that....
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on May 02, 2010, 11:30:59 pm
Post by: Lydyn on May 02, 2010, 11:30:59 pm
Quote from: "Kagebunji"Make it lighter, and give some green-ish(but REALLY slightly)color to it, Also you might think about using Shrine Knight cloth for the legs, it looks good on Shiva. Damn, too bad I cannot get Asmo's concept.
Ovelia's hair isn't working, this is Ovelia's hair and hers only, it looks just wrong on other sprites. Aim for something more custom.
I'll mess with it some later and see how the shrine knight... thing works (which sounds like it won't). As for the hair - I just want to point out that 'something custom' is not really within my league of abilities.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: formerdeathcorps on May 03, 2010, 12:00:41 am
Post by: formerdeathcorps on May 03, 2010, 12:00:41 am
I tested floated units + half elemental. The result was half damage, regardless of where the float came from. Maybe Razele's ASM is overrode by half status, and that explains my half of the results?
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Kagebunji on May 03, 2010, 07:49:28 am
Post by: Kagebunji on May 03, 2010, 07:49:28 am
Quote from: "Lydyn"I'll mess with it some later and see how the shrine knight... thing works (which sounds like it won't).You would be surprised if you would see how good it worked on Asmo's Shiva, it was really good.
Quote from: "Lydyn"As for the hair - I just want to point out that 'something custom' is not really within my league of abilities.Then just borrow some hair from "custom sprites" page on main. If you would want to give her FF7/9(I don't remeber exactly) look, then borrow Ignis hair.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: formerdeathcorps on May 03, 2010, 09:05:49 am
Post by: formerdeathcorps on May 03, 2010, 09:05:49 am
Finished testing. Razele's formula is fine; the only glitch is that a unit with both oil and float will not take 2x damage from fire because float is checked first.
Razele's hack doubles the damage or hit chance to simulate "weak to" a given element. However, not all attacks are included. Elemental weapon attacks (which I used in some of my tests--different formulas are bundled together) and the wave fist formula (which I used in others of my tests--only variable referenced is PA) will not respond to Razele's ASM hack. I suspect the reason is that he is doubling whatever variable is being referenced as the first (or second/third), which for different formulas may be X or Y.
Consequences:
1) Damage magic will receive double damage.
2) Effect magic that is elemental will have their hit rates go up.
3) Faith effect magic will be affected least of all.
4) Weapon attacks and monk attacks won't be affected. However, the PA*(WP+Y) and SP*WP formulas will.
Razele's hack doubles the damage or hit chance to simulate "weak to" a given element. However, not all attacks are included. Elemental weapon attacks (which I used in some of my tests--different formulas are bundled together) and the wave fist formula (which I used in others of my tests--only variable referenced is PA) will not respond to Razele's ASM hack. I suspect the reason is that he is doubling whatever variable is being referenced as the first (or second/third), which for different formulas may be X or Y.
Consequences:
1) Damage magic will receive double damage.
2) Effect magic that is elemental will have their hit rates go up.
3) Faith effect magic will be affected least of all.
4) Weapon attacks and monk attacks won't be affected. However, the PA*(WP+Y) and SP*WP formulas will.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Kagebunji on May 03, 2010, 09:58:53 am
Post by: Kagebunji on May 03, 2010, 09:58:53 am
Good news, I found Asmo's version of Shiva. look at 7th sprite in 2nd row, it's her
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on May 03, 2010, 06:40:30 pm
Post by: Lydyn on May 03, 2010, 06:40:30 pm
Hm. I might borrow the purple, but in all honesty ... I like mine better. Just personal preference I suppose. I will have to edit Shiva's legs just a tad though.
FDC - Thanks, that helps a lot, I'm sure. In the least, it makes it so applying the ASM will work for what I have in mind.
FDC - Thanks, that helps a lot, I'm sure. In the least, it makes it so applying the ASM will work for what I have in mind.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on May 04, 2010, 07:12:21 pm
Post by: Lydyn on May 04, 2010, 07:12:21 pm
Here's more images that'll appear in Revised;
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/Lydyn_Whirlwind/MoreImages1.png)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/Lydyn_Whirlwind/MoreImages1.png)
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: SilvasRuin on May 04, 2010, 09:32:58 pm
Post by: SilvasRuin on May 04, 2010, 09:32:58 pm
The first one's hair looks odd to me. It looks very much out of place. Also, what's going on with your golem? What's with the orange?
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on May 04, 2010, 09:57:31 pm
Post by: Lydyn on May 04, 2010, 09:57:31 pm
I've talked to others and some seem to like the ice-blue hair ... tried making it red instead, but it didn't work out well. Wonder if taking Beatrix's red would work ...
Also, orange? What orange? You mean gold?
Also, orange? What orange? You mean gold?
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on May 04, 2010, 11:14:37 pm
Post by: Lydyn on May 04, 2010, 11:14:37 pm
New Clidna;
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/Lydyn_Whirlwind/Clidna2.png)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/Lydyn_Whirlwind/Clidna2.png)
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Kagebunji on May 05, 2010, 01:31:53 am
Post by: Kagebunji on May 05, 2010, 01:31:53 am
Yes, those colors are better. Btw...is this my Rydia's hair? 
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on May 05, 2010, 02:03:05 am
Post by: Lydyn on May 05, 2010, 02:03:05 am
Yeah, using her portrait too.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on May 06, 2010, 01:10:35 am
Post by: Lydyn on May 06, 2010, 01:10:35 am
Well, work is slow-going ... but it shouldn't be a huge deal since there's not too much interest in this project. Currently still working on Clidna, however - just replacing the heads all-around.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: J Viper on May 15, 2010, 12:33:25 pm
Post by: J Viper on May 15, 2010, 12:33:25 pm
So, any updates on this patch?
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on May 16, 2010, 11:37:26 am
Post by: Lydyn on May 16, 2010, 11:37:26 am
Sadly, no ... something came up and this on hold for the moment.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Pride on June 05, 2010, 03:03:35 am
Post by: Pride on June 05, 2010, 03:03:35 am
Its been a while now, and I was wondering if you had any more updates and general info for your patch. I like some of the ideas of it and I've been a fan of the slashing/piercing system. Another cool thing is the elemental system you have. Makes the patch unique and a great idea.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Lydyn on June 05, 2010, 03:28:26 pm
Post by: Lydyn on June 05, 2010, 03:28:26 pm
Likely unless this gets a lot of support, that's about it. I had a ton of problems with the patch pointed out by one of my testers, which would mean going back to square one. However, feel free to use it as a base for something if you'd like.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Kagebunji on June 09, 2010, 11:30:32 am
Post by: Kagebunji on June 09, 2010, 11:30:32 am
Oh come on, once you release some good ppf file there will be input, no worries.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: topopox on July 20, 2010, 10:25:07 pm
Post by: topopox on July 20, 2010, 10:25:07 pm
I love how this is turning out except for one thing....
Gunblades... Are you kidding me? This is Ivalice not FFVIII.
The rest is pretty appealing.
Gunblades... Are you kidding me? This is Ivalice not FFVIII.
The rest is pretty appealing.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Smitson on August 14, 2010, 03:49:40 pm
Post by: Smitson on August 14, 2010, 03:49:40 pm
I liked how this was looking. Hopefully you continue working on it.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: Kagebunji on August 18, 2010, 08:55:30 am
Post by: Kagebunji on August 18, 2010, 08:55:30 am
I bet he don't.
Title: Re: FFT: Revised
Post by: J Viper on August 18, 2010, 01:22:36 pm
Post by: J Viper on August 18, 2010, 01:22:36 pm
Yea this projects dead it seems