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Modding => Hacking/Patching Tools => Topic started by: Barren on March 04, 2011, 03:46:37 pm

Title: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: Barren on March 04, 2011, 03:46:37 pm
im sure some of you have notice when i post season 4 loser's bracket matches you'll see some buggy text error....i have brought it up in the season 4 topic...if one of you see this video i was wondering if you know how to fix the spell/skill quote text error because the battle.bin file i originally got from otabo (which is also in philsov's s4 directory) when i import it over the original battle.bin file in CDmage, it somehow screws up the text...watch this video and you'll see what i mean

Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: RavenOfRazgriz on March 04, 2011, 09:00:32 pm
It looks like the TacText and FFTPatcher files used to make the AI Tournament patch don't match Spell Quotes.

You'll have to rip it open in TacText and fix the Spell Quotes by hand or just turn them off.
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: Barren on March 05, 2011, 04:27:00 am
Quote from: RavenOfRazgriz on March 04, 2011, 09:00:32 pm
It looks like the TacText and FFTPatcher files used to make the AI Tournament patch don't match Spell Quotes.

You'll have to rip it open in TacText and fix the Spell Quotes by hand or just turn them off.


i am pretty new to tactext.....i opened it and i couldn't find where i can edit spell quotes or turn them off....ill keep looking for now but if you or anyone else has some tips for me that would be great
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: Eternal on March 05, 2011, 04:29:10 am
Just check in QuickEdit. There should be something called "Ability Quotes" in the dropdown box.
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: Dome on March 05, 2011, 04:29:22 am
Quote from: Barren on March 05, 2011, 04:27:00 am
i am pretty new to tactext.....i opened it and i couldn't find where i can edit spell quotes or turn them off....ill keep looking for now but if you or anyone else has some tips for me that would be great

Try to use the quickedit tab

Edit:
Ninja'd
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: Barren on March 05, 2011, 04:35:04 pm
Thank you Dome and Eternal....that was actually very helpful, im going to work on right now
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: Barren on March 05, 2011, 06:46:40 pm
okay...i changed the quotes back to what they should be...now how do i know make sure that when the spell quote comes up in the AI tourney match that if someone tries for example haste that the spell quote will be the one i typed down?
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: Eternal on March 06, 2011, 03:57:22 am
Just keep casting the spell until they say the quote.
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: philsov on March 09, 2011, 03:12:28 pm
it's a 15% chance.

Or you can apply Xif's ASM to display 100% of the time if you need to proofread a whole bunch in game.
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: Barren on March 19, 2011, 08:31:36 am
I tried tactext again and opened the ffttactext file to patch it to the ISO and the message says "Object reference not set to an instance of an object" does anyone know what that means?
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: Eternal on March 19, 2011, 03:24:21 pm
If I'm remembering the errors right, that means some of the text is too long.
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: Barren on March 22, 2011, 07:03:58 pm
if thats the case, is there a way to disable spell quotes then?
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: Eternal on March 22, 2011, 07:05:08 pm
I think Xifanie made an ASM that disables them all, alternately, go in the patcher and uncheck the Spell Quote box from each skill with a quote.
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: philsov on March 28, 2011, 10:09:08 am
Quote from: Barren on March 22, 2011, 07:03:58 pm
if thats the case, is there a way to disable spell quotes then?


Just disable them ingame.  Can be done mid-battle iirc, and lasts until you toggle them back on.

(Which is why there isn't an ASM for it)
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: Barren on March 28, 2011, 02:43:59 pm
Quote from: philsov on March 28, 2011, 10:09:08 am
Just disable them ingame.  Can be done mid-battle iirc, and lasts until you toggle them back on.

(Which is why there isn't an ASM for it)


Okay, im in the middle of a AI battle, I hit options during the fight, here's whats there:

cursor movement: A type
cursor repeat speed: regular
cursor repeat on mult. heights: regular
finger cursor repeat speed: regular
message display speed: regular
navigation message: off
show ability name: on
show effect message: off
show exp and jp gained: off
target flashing: on
show unequippable item by job: off
max equip at job change: off
sound: stereo
return to initialize settings: customize

What do I do to turn off the spell quotes during the game or did you mean by something else?

A vid of how to disable spell quotes in anyway would be nice
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: philsov on March 28, 2011, 07:03:17 pm
pretty sure it's the Effect Message option, but if you're getting them with that disabled then possibly Ability name?
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: Barren on March 28, 2011, 07:39:37 pm
I don't think ability name is the problem.... just did another test, ability name shows what the character is doing or what reaction is going off

so in process of elimination, ability name is not the issue...not sure what effect message does though :/
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: The Damned on March 29, 2011, 03:05:34 am
Yeah, I think you're just going to have turn off Quotes individually or fix the problem yourself in Tactext (if you can find it).

Alternately, you could maybe ask Xifanie if she has something that's the opposite of her "Spell quotes always show up hack", but turning off the Quotes for everything is probably easier.
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: Barren on March 29, 2011, 06:40:26 am
That's the thing though: I tried looking for a check box of some sort to turn off spell quotes but I cant seem to find it :(

Unless someone has a really good idea on how to turn them off best I can do is somehow make sure that the spell has no text.....

Again a video on how to turn off spell quote would be nice
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: Barren on March 29, 2011, 08:09:49 am
Title: Re: Is there a way to fix text bugs for spell/skill quotes?
Post by: Barren on March 30, 2011, 09:17:32 am
For those who wanted to know how I was able to fix the spell quotes, what I had to do is open another window of FFTacText and open another patched ISO like the regular 1.3038 for instance

Then I copied and pasted the correct coding and correct message input by hand over the messed up quotes. Had to do it one by one.

Finally after going through 511 boxes, I was able to patch ISO and it was a success.

As a bonus, I know why I got the "Object reference not set to an instance of an object" error, it was because that in the blank boxes....there was nothing there like no quote or ability name or anything like that. It had no command or input. So what I had to do was in the blank box and/or the skill that needs no quote I type down No messages. that way the width of the box can read as 50.

So now I know what to do when I come across something like that again :)