After watching the part1 of the reunion vid, I had this going through my mind..
The backgrounds when going in a shop or bar interests me.
I did some edits with it, and had fun.
Here's what I have made so far; I wanted to add RAD!,
and changed Ramza's armor to fit Mercenaries.
But, I need some help! Where should we put our lad, Rad?
First off, my edits:
next to ramza would be good, behind the counter makes no sense (Rad doesn't work there)
next to ramza or behind ramza, watching him from the ladder
(http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/files/dfd_778.png)
How about Rad playing with the ladder? haha.
Okay. Makes sense.
..need to fix Rad's light sources..
Haha. Yeah. Behind the counter doesn't make sense, unless that is his father shop, cousin's shop, uncle's shop, OR, (stupid idea), his girlfriend's shop. Hahaha.
In front of Ramza or the ladder (maybe plan to climb up the ladder and look for something) sounds reasonable.
Yup. his girlfriend's shop.
The light sources I set fits Rad when he's on the ladder..
I'll edit this post later.
edit:
I like this one:
make it a vote between ladder climb, leaning on ladder watching ramza (with arms crossed if possible) and next to ramza, as if talking to him
those 3 are the best possibilities IMO
Okay, I'll try doing the 'leaning on ladder' first.
No, no, I was wrong. We can't place Rad near the ladder.
He'll be covered up by the Menu.
So, there's only one choice left..
Here's the fixed shadow version: (4th edit)
Am I on crack or isn't that a storm trooper helmet on the top shelf?
Anyway, I think I prefer Rad over by the ladder.
ladder area is hidden by the menu
it would be good if Rad changes its position along the chapters go on,I think one behind the counter is reasonble under certain circunstances,like carrying a supply box/gear just like the girl or coming out from the fitting room wearing an armor,the scenario changes 3 times,so 3 different images
QuoteAm I on crack or isn't that a storm trooper helmet on the top shelf?
Anyway, I think I prefer Rad over by the ladder.
I do not think you are on crack, sir. I see it too.
Ah, I should have made this clearer... Gafgarion is actually the one doing all of the main shopping with them, Rad and Ramza are welcome to be present though. Regardless thanks for getting to these!
Rad looks good there and Gafgarion should have his head down and arms crossed...
Or you could have Gaffy staring at the merchandise/shelves/cabinets.
MiKe, you've done it again! The first image looked so natural that I didn't realize Rad wasn't supposed to be there. Hah.
Anyway, I like where he's placed now, but if Gafgarion is doing the shopping he should be in front of the counter. Ramza can be fiddling around with something, and maybe Rad could be off to the side. Sitting on the counter, perhaps?
QuoteAh, I should have made this clearer... Gafgarion is actually the one doing all of the main shopping with them, Rad and Ramza are welcome to be present though. Regardless thanks for getting to these!
I get it. :)
Quoteit would be good if Rad changes its position along the chapters go on,I think one behind the counter is reasonble under certain circunstances,like carrying a supply box/gear just like the girl or coming out from the fitting room wearing an armor,the scenario changes 3 times,so 3 different images
Nice idea!
btw, nice avatar.
One Note, I can't remove Ramza in this one. So, he should always be there, touching the sword.
take a gander?
looks good
do you have an in-game of him next to ramza?
Oh Yeah,I just love how Rad is trying to get a girlfriend and helps the girl in order to fullfil that dream
Gafgarion seem to be cropped
Ramza,err,he is being Ramza
and danmed menu,I would love to see someone playing with that ladder
Quoteand danmed menu,I would love to see someone playing with that ladder
Yeah. me too.
QuoteGafgarion seem to be cropped
Hm. I'll work on that.
Quotelooks good
do you have an in-game of him next to ramza?
Yes.
will post after 6 hours.
Great job MiKe. Can't wait to see what else you're gonna do.
you guys are amazing
Very nice, MikeMitchi, very very nice! Though each chapter (or patch... in this case) will have a different Shop picture (maybe multiple ones if I can get that worked out...) That leaves the Historical Archives (keep in mind though that the picture I have there is Hopefully not final, that's taken directly from one of the storybooks and worked at the time...) but if anyone has any other ideas, that would be great!
Also the Warden's Office which is replacing the Fur Shop (run by the guy who used to run the now defunct Soldier Office) if you could make the Soldier Office picture into a place a bit more dank and seed with guards surrounding it and Perhaps a merchant with a very large bag, that would be Optimal!
Great work, though currently! I am glad to see you all are putting forth a good effort.
Quotebit more dank and seed
What do you mean by this, Sir LD?
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and also, are you telling me that I should transform the Soldier Office into a Fur shop? No?
What does the Warden's Office do??
Sorry, I don't know a lot, yet.
Amazing, Mike. Really amazing. You really putting a lot efforts to make Mercenaries turn out great.
A job well done.
The last one with Gafgarion in front of the counter and Rad helping with the girl is amazing but I too, like to see Rad playing/leaning at the ladder.
Overall, its amazing.
Looks great and a very nice touch guys. Keep it coming.
Thanks all.
here's the chap2 bkshop2 update, and the chapter 1 panorama...
That's pretty awesome, Mike. ^_^
I especially like how Rad is up on the door.
Also, Gaffy has better coloring in this one, I think.
Ooh, good stuff! Rad looks perfect in that one MiKe. My only suggestion is to make sure Gaffgarion doesn't look like he's sleeping. Arms crossed, perhaps? Though I thought we only see Ramza in his red for a small portion of the game--one fight or something...
Yes. considered. I might change their positions depending on the patches (chapters).
I would really like to add a random character~!
QuoteThat's pretty awesome, Mike. ^_^
I especially like how Rad is up on the door.
Also, Gaffy has better coloring in this one, I think
Thanks.. yup, gaffy's color is better with the last one.
Amazing Mike. Just amazing ^^
Bravo. And the Rad...Haha. Nice one. Yeah. Gaffy looks like sleeping though.
And for Lavian, I thought the menu will cover that ladder? 0.o
Marvelous work Mike! It looks really, really great!
Geez, that's Divine! I just can't wait for it! LD any release date (or at least how is progress)?
Hmm, well adding Lavian into this isn't really a possibility, she's only in your "party" for a matter of three battles. After that she's gone. So that wouldn't work out very well.
Who could be possible? if no one fits, I'll try to add a random one. heheh.
Hmm, I can't really think of anyone... how do you think statues would look? Of let's say... one frames of two of the "Zodiac Braves" from legend?
Also this is what I meant... (Did I never really explain this?) In Mercenaries the Fur Shop has been replaced with the Warden's Office, the Warden's Office is where to receive items for capturing "Bounties", (I'll open up a thread for them when they become pertinent) It works in the exact same way as poaching, except this time you're (more or less) poaching humans, and bringing them to the Warden's Office. You get a "ticket" for high quality goods. But the picture of the Fur Shop is being replaced with that of the Soldier Office, except I would like to see some guards about, and maybe some prisoners being taken away if possible, and a peculiar looking merchant with a very large bag of goods.
Cool. I'll work on that.
Here:
Hmm.. Sir LD what if chapter one would be called
"The Lasting Dawn" haha..
Since it's a beginning of a new and lasting story. hahaha..
Okay, on-topic, what if we call it "The Wardenry"??
^ no one noticed my edit, so I need to bump.
That I did not... in any case, the chapter names are probably going to be in a style based after Matsuno himself, but no more on that at the moment. Hmm... the term Wardenry is more antique... but doesn't really get to the point, Warden's Office tells you immediately, I actually had to look up the definition of Wardenry to find out, in any case those plans look good, sure change his outfit a bit, but no need to change his face at all.
Sure. I'll edit this post as soon as I've finished something.
You got any sprites planned for those guards?
Nope. Your Onion knight edit would fit them.
All I need is its walking animation. (and standing)
I can do walking ones, but by "standing" what you mean? The 5 basic views?
Yes.
Thanks Kage.
No problem, I will do it today.
I was just about to say that Kage's sprite fits as the Guard for the Soldier/Warden Office. Hehe.
Great job Mike.
By the way, what sprite will it be for the prisoner? And Merchant too? Also, Gafgarion? The Guard is Kage's sprite, so that's done. About changing colour, what do you mean?
Yeah, I still need the scryer sprite for the prisoner.
(the 'weak' frame; crouching; sitting frame)
Ah..Scryer. Haha. Sorry but still getting into concept and design that fits ^^.
Scryer as a prisoner...Hmm...good choice for a prisoner as they seems like some high class with valuable source of information. Hahaha ^^
Yes, maybe, but no, since they are not respectable in mercenaries as LD said.
And also, Scryers are in the basic class.
I changed my plans. I decided to combine the Fur shop and Soldier office.
And this is what I got:
Maybe it's just me, but your pic isn't showing mike.
Btw, I will add feathers to helms of Guards of Soldier Office, without feathers it look funny in some views(I get a turban in one view...), or do you disagree?
edit: I can see pic, looks great! More prison-like.
Ah..yes; not respectable well in Mercenaries. Alright Mike ^^
As for the picture, I think its looking good. With the chains, cellbars, ropes, it suits better for prisoner. Hehe ^^
I dunno if I will create this sprite today, I have every animations done and all, but I must recolor everything manualy. I must say I like it myself
Holy hell MiKe...where do you get off being so talented?!
That's a seriously gorgeous image, man. Well done. Though should Gafgarion be the one talking to the shop owner, or what?
Well, I got the sprite, here you go (it's already in .bmp), some parts are not finished(those part you don't need)
Darken the darkest shade on the helmet, change the skintone, and make the eyes white and it'll be perfect. Actually, I've already done that, I hope you don't mind, Kage.
Though I didn't have time to save it as a BMP...
It's okay, I don't mind.
Quote from: "MiKeMiTchi"I changed my plans. I decided to combine the Fur shop and Soldier office.
And this is what I got:
...whoa. That is Precisely what I imagined! But I didn't want to overoad anyone's plate with what I felt was just far flung fantasies! That looks incredible!
How about placing Rad near those papers in kneeing position? He will be looking for some bounties or something. Just an idea
I made a big mistake, it wasn't 16 colors >.> Here is 16 color one
You might should remove the plume on the helmet. With it, it screams Onion Knight. Without it, I could see it being regular guards.
That combined fur shop - wardery looks fan-eFFing-tastic!! A little dark to the left area, but I guess that's where the Menu is gonna be so no problem there.
Helm is a thing that makes them special, I deffinitly won't remove it. Besides it reminds "parade helm" from other FF series (FFTA for example).
The plume does look good, but I agree with Silvas. Though, I still think the helmet could use one more shade...
Yeah Kage, try removing the plume, we'll see if it looks good.
But I'll still try them.
Thanks for the comments guys, appreciated.
QuoteHow about placing Rad near those papers in kneeing position? He will be looking for some bounties or something. Just an idea
Yeah, good thought.
hmm.. where to place Gaf seems to a problem..
Gafgarion standing in front of the counter or whatever it is call, like discussion or something, while Ramza is there (the same place) reading/viewing documents, perhaps? Also, for Gafgarion's sprite, may I suggest his hands placing on the table/counter? Since the officer is placing both hands under his cheek and seems like thinking/taking into consideration for whatever reason from Gafgarion.
Something like this:
That's pretty sweet man
Here's a messed-up screenshot of my progress..
Gaff kinda blended in on first glance, since he is in the light itself, it might be allright to lighten him up a bit.
Very good progress and great suggestion about lightening up Gaffy. He might even be casting a shadow in the bright spot on the floor behind him. Any chance of getting rid of some of the books and papers on the floor, it is a bit too messy now. I like your idea of combining the soldier office and the fur shop, but I'm wondering if you should have used different pieces from each.
Haha. Yes, those were my concerns, too.
I did lighten up Gaf, though. I think I should lighten him up more.
Hmm.. about the books..
I can't remove them.
It looks great, I dunno when I will be able to work on guard again(school), so it may take some time.
Quote from: "Kagebunji"It looks great, I dunno when I will be able to work on guard again(school), so it may take some time.
Oh no, don't worry Kage, I'm fine with the guards currently.
Those knights look like noble knights, and this prison is connected with nobles right? If yes, then those guards matches everything great.
okay, lightened up gaf..
Here it is..
btw, to sum it up for LD, I have 3 edits, 2 from shop, 1 from warden's office.
What else should we do?
that looks sick as hell man... these small backdrop edits will add SO MUCH to the game
very good job, i am impressed
thats quite impressive...
im getting excited about the finished product
Quote from: "dwib"that looks sick as hell man... these small backdrop edits will add SO MUCH to the game
very good job, i am impressed
Thanks! Yeah.
Quote from: "Sir Zozma"thats quite impressive...
im getting excited about the finished product
Thanks Sir Zozma! Hmm.. that's what I'm doing with myself..
making these images so that I'd (not only me) be excited. hahaha.
mike i bet youre good at eventchr animations since i see you putting these poses in.
Im not gonna try steal you from lasting dawn but when its all said and done youd still have work if you dont get burnt out by the end of mercenaries
this stuff looks great iz all im sayin
Haha. Yeah.
I can't say I'm good at eventchr animations though. I just got they're poses from their respective
battle-sprite animations.
Also, I'm open to other projects, as long as I have time and interest.
i'm not this far along so i have nothing to ask for now, but it all looks great if you dont get entirely burnt out by the end of this project ill be buggin ya haha...
Whoa...This is AWESOME MIKE!!!! Trully amazing. Well done, Mike. Well done ^^
I think you deserve the title "Sir" like Zodiac, Cheetah, LD, Zozma, Voldemort, Asmo; what you did all the way, everything is amazing!!
Sir Mike ^^
I'm just 17.
thanks.
A know a lot of guys out there that are really better than me.
And, those we are 'green' are the ones I call with 'sir'. hahaha.
I should start calling Asmo, Sir Asmo, but I think he'd be annoyed.
Haha. Then you're young and talented!! Amazing ^^
I guess I too, should start calling 'sir', as a respect ^^
Hehe.
Holy shit! Great job MiKe, great job. I guess you could mess around with the light in the image, but I think it looks fine (and Gafgarion doesn't look particularly dark or anything). My only suggestion is to make it look like that other knight/guard isn't moving, but that's just my personal preference. If you're gonna include a prisoner, I'd say use the Gambler. He needs to be shown off more.
Hmm, or as a nod to FFT, show a Thief sprite being taken away, regardless this is fantastic work! But I might just be blind... but I take it the Merchant being there would have been more trouble then it was worth?
Thief would be good. I like the idea, Sir LD.
Well, I can still add a merchant, but I don't have a proper sprite for him/her.
I imagine something like the female chemist, which has a big bag in the front part. Something like that, but bigger.. (?)
Yeah, another Merchant, maybe standing next to the Officer (...officer right?? Haha)?? Or perhaps doing something behind around the books there? ^^
I can just transfer Rad and place the merchant there. We'll see.
Here.
I won't work for a while now, unless someone works and finishes something great that will greatly get my attention.
I feel that I am working non-stop, so I think I should get a rest.
Is that a Gambler in the first cell? Heh, this image looks amazing. Much more activity than the previous one. And that Ninja, what a beast! He'll pounce at first chance.
Get some Rest, MiKe. You deserve it.
Yeah thanks, mav.
yes, the gambler is in there. I also liked the ninja there, as he's the secret guard. hahaha.
oh btw, for Sir LD, I'll just send you the original final images if you need them.
This is amazing!! Well done Mike, well done ^^
I like that secret guard idea. Hehe. And the merchant with Ramza, cool too ^^
Yeah. You've done a lot. Get some rest, Mike. You totally deserve it.
I love the ninja in the rafters, LOL! ^_^
It took me several trie just to see the ninja. Brilliant.
Wont the onion knight and the thief get blocked by the menu screen or no?
Lookin' good! Take that rest Mike, you totally deserve it. See you around later ^^
Quote from: "boomkick"Wont the onion knight and the thief get blocked by the menu screen or no?
The guard taking away the prisoner will get the right portion of his body (our left) blocked by the menu, but the thief should be in the clear.
Incredible work! Yes, rest your hands, you definitely deserve a rest after that.
Btw Boomkick, he isn't Onion Knight, he is a Paladin.
See what happens when you don't remove the plume, Kage?
QuoteWont the onion knight and the thief get blocked by the menu screen or no?
Yes, they will be blocked, but can be seen when the player chooses something in the menu.
I see no problem with that, since the original backdrops doesn't care, too.
Thanks guys.
Quote from: "Kagebunji"Btw Boomkick, he isn't Onion Knight, he is a Paladin.
You can say that as much as you want, but until you remove that plume, it's an Onion Knight.
Quote from: "SilvasRuin"You can say that as much as you want, but until you remove that plume, it's an Onion Knight.
I think a backwards facing plume would be interesting. Also maybe have a strip of cloth coming out of the nob. Like a small banner or something.