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Modding => Spriting => Topic started by: Miroshi Beshima on July 10, 2008, 06:48:00 pm

Title: FF7 Aeris Sprite
Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 10, 2008, 06:48:00 pm
I dont know if anyone was goin to make an FF7 version of Aeris so I decided to attempt to make one. Theres a topic i skimmed where i got the first two views from so I want to thank the person who made them. You may do whatever you want to the sprite. Also critisism and comments welcomed.
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on July 10, 2008, 08:12:03 pm
WOOT!  We are one step closer to the entire FF7 compendium.

She looks wonderful, my friend.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 10, 2008, 08:26:26 pm
Found some glitchy stuff with her ill fix that immediatly. Took me awhile to test ingame because ive been grounded so i had to wait till my parents left. Which reminds me...today is the 7th month anniversity since ive been grounded! *sigh*
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 10, 2008, 09:46:40 pm
This one should look better but i cant test it ingame since my parents are back. If any can test this out for me and tell me if theres anything wrong id really appriciate that. ive also have been working on AC Tifa and i have Vincent already planned out so more FF7 will be here soon!
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Post by: Vanya on July 10, 2008, 10:54:10 pm
Can't you convert it into an SPR and view the frames in shishi?
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 10, 2008, 11:01:11 pm
I did but you can notice a lot more mistakes ingame since shishi shows only a black background thats wat happened with the first Aeris
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Post by: Vanya on July 10, 2008, 11:15:38 pm
OK. I'll give it a shot, but before I do, I have to comment on the palette.

I don't know if it's that the pink is to saturated or what, but right now she's kinda hurting my eyes. That brown and that pink really, really clash. try finding some screen shots of her as a reference. Other than that I think she's coming along great.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 11, 2008, 12:16:48 am
Now shes less bright and i also found out that her jacket is a deep red. About her shoes, should they stay red or change to her darker colors of her hair? and thanks Vanya!
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Post by: Vanya on July 11, 2008, 01:07:48 am
No problem, mon!
Shoes should be brown, but I like them red.

I like it, but the pink gradient seems too flat. The lightest pink needs to be a little lighter, and the darkest a little darker. The middle colors should be lighter and the other darker, but not as much of a change as the other two.

The red gradient would probably look better if it was just a smidge brighter.

I think once you tweak the palette, she'll be perfect. Good job, mon!
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 11, 2008, 04:08:24 am
I made 2 versions of the sprite; one with red boots and the other with brown. I made the changes like you said. The Aeris with brown shoes has darker hair so her shoes didnt look like oddly shaded brown bricks on her feet. Bleh I forgot I have to go to the beach tomorrow so I had to post this now (its like 4:00 am where Im at to whoever isnt in my timezone) so you could all hav this now and comment on it. I hate the beach
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Post by: Cheetah on July 11, 2008, 04:59:01 am
She is looking quite good. I have similar concerns about the colors like Vanya, but it is getting better. I think the "pink" needs to be slightly pinker and the red slightly brighter. But it might be fine, and I'm only suggesting minor adjustments.
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Post by: Vanya on July 11, 2008, 08:56:57 am
I'm not sure which one I like better. They're both good. The brown shoes are more accurate, but the red is good, too. And I'll agree with what Cheetah said too.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 11, 2008, 05:15:37 pm
Ok I fixed them. Are the colors better now?
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Post by: Nevarie on July 11, 2008, 05:32:05 pm
contrast looks a bit better.
the rest is up to personal taste in color really, if you want it to be more fft style, ff7 style or your own flavor.
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Post by: Cheetah on July 11, 2008, 05:50:50 pm
Looks good. Do you have enough colors to make the bracelets gold? Or maybe remove them.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 11, 2008, 06:03:51 pm
Theres not enough colors sadly...I might try to make one without a bracer but Im not good with removing things. Ill give it a shot.
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Post by: Vanya on July 12, 2008, 12:36:03 pm
Look pretty damn good. just tweaking from here out. Great job, Miroshi!
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 12, 2008, 05:57:59 pm
Thanks Vanya! And thanks to Cheetah and Nevarie, too. You all helped me out a lot! Oh, and these next updates are a teeny bit different. I was able to squeeze out one color so I could make gold braces but one wasnt enough so I gave her Green eyes. And the portrait has a different color shirt. It's red, now, so it matches the sprite.
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Post by: Cyberblade on July 16, 2008, 11:00:35 pm
Awesome job man. You should submit it to the site so everyone will remeber your work for as long as FFH exists.
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Post by: Zozma on July 17, 2008, 10:33:02 pm
the sprite is great. i had thought about working on it but fixing the shading in the dress in the front seemed too time consuming for me.
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Post by: Xifanie on July 18, 2008, 05:35:53 am
Crap, I forgot to add it yesterday... :/

But it feels a bit weird to upload 2 version on the site while the only difference are BOOTS. -_-'
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Post by: Cheetah on July 18, 2008, 06:26:37 am
I would recommend just having the different colored boots as a seperate palette on the same spr...
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 18, 2008, 02:21:54 pm
If you only want to put on one i suggest the one with brown boots. i cant add an extra pallette because thatll affect the hair or jacket(depends on which one you add the pallette to).
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Post by: Zozma on July 24, 2008, 04:43:24 pm
i've come to the realization.. after working with the female archer sprite, that a perfect template for ff7 aeris is not the dancer sprite but in fact the archer. see the work done to create that aeris is great, thanks for that. but the shading in the front of the dress is off. i might take a crack at it after i finish my miluda cross knight, sprite.
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Post by: trickstardude7 on July 24, 2008, 07:20:31 pm
great job! wow ive ben gone forever but im gonna get back and make a patch with her in it  :o
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Post by: Kenshin72 on July 24, 2008, 07:43:18 pm
Hey Trickstar! Glad you are back! I missed seeing your awesome avatar!
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Post by: trickstardude7 on July 24, 2008, 07:53:45 pm
lol psshaw this old thing  :lol: well im gonna try doing sprites but ive been looking around and i found some cool stuff like a possible yuffie sprite , Cloud with a shinra looking mask .


well im hopefully going to start my own patch!
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 31, 2008, 06:50:05 pm
Zozma, you said that archer was better for Aeris than a dancer and WOW does it look better, well in my eyes. What do you all think?
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Post by: Zozma on July 31, 2008, 06:59:09 pm
did you do this? great job THAT is the aeris we know
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 31, 2008, 07:03:49 pm
Yes i did ^-^! I guess ill finish it.
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Post by: Zozma on July 31, 2008, 07:08:09 pm
please do, if it looks that good all around people will definately be wanting that.

remember my tip on the arms, the less you have to edit them, the better because they are VERY time consuming. (unless you have that much patience XD
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Post by: trickstardude7 on July 31, 2008, 07:30:13 pm
Great job i cant wait to see the completion
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 31, 2008, 09:39:58 pm
Ok heres the 5 views. another comparison. Any suggestions?
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Post by: Zozma on July 31, 2008, 09:44:47 pm
are you doing one or both of them?

the jacket looks better on the bottom one,
the dress on the top one has a nice shape,
on the bottom one the forward diagonal cut off one line pixels of the pink dress by the shoe also bring the head to the left by one pixel or so.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 31, 2008, 09:54:16 pm
No only one. Line 1 and 3 is the original (dancer) and 2 and 4 are the new ones (archer)
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Post by: Zozma on July 31, 2008, 10:02:37 pm
well its looking good, the dress comes out like 1 pixel too far on the backstide u know how it goes strait down her legs?, but besides that its good, as long as you remember where the legs are under the dress (thats where it should get lighter when shes walking.

doin fine
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on August 02, 2008, 06:15:32 pm
Ok all walk animations are done next is attack then the arms. I want Aeris to be type 1 so for the arms i have to use theif arms and hands from a different sprite.
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Post by: Zozma on August 02, 2008, 06:46:22 pm
archer might be better, the female archer is type 1
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on August 02, 2008, 08:31:11 pm
Oh ok then ill use archer (thought archer was type 2)
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Post by: Zozma on August 02, 2008, 08:51:38 pm
nope, my deis sprite is based off the archer and its type 1. its funny because it seems like alot of the good sprites are easier to make with type 1...
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on August 05, 2008, 08:03:11 pm
Ok I havent had any luck of turning arms into her arms but im actually doin better with converting the dancers type 2 arms into type 1. I have to finish 26 more attack animation arms and edit the bangles on them and make them smaller then im done
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Post by: Zozma on August 05, 2008, 08:05:07 pm
i have an idea, my misty sprite! they are modified female theif arms... now she has gloves but the sleeves are good.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on August 05, 2008, 08:09:45 pm
The gloves are whats killing me. The never look right either theyre too big or just plain old funky looking
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Post by: Zozma on August 05, 2008, 08:37:27 pm
isn't it funny how t his game barely has any normal arms... you could try using teta/ alma's arms tho i don't know how good that will look
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on August 05, 2008, 08:41:45 pm
But im trying to keep aeris as a type 1.
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Post by: Zozma on August 05, 2008, 08:44:16 pm
the arms are gonna be killer... maybe it is for the best to stick with the dancer arms converted to type 1
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on August 05, 2008, 08:52:56 pm
Yeah i guess i should. So far her attack animations with the arms looks good.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on August 08, 2008, 09:52:52 pm
Hey zozma could i use beatrix's arms? they seem perfect! the gloves look tight on her hands so they could be taken off easily and i could add sleeves.
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Post by: Zozma on August 08, 2008, 09:53:39 pm
you don't need to ask my permission ;) do as you wish
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on August 08, 2008, 10:00:37 pm
Thanks Zozma! ^-^
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on August 11, 2008, 10:51:25 pm
Ok an update on aeris! Ok i got Beatrix's arms on aeris but now they seem a little big on her so theyre gonna need a little shrinking. Then i need to add sleeves and a few attack animations then im done. Sorry im movin kinda slow ive been pretty busy. But im hopin that shell be done soon.
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Post by: Zozma on August 11, 2008, 11:51:30 pm
;) no rush on sprites, some of the ones i've made ive taken months to produce (friggin arms )
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on October 09, 2008, 08:07:55 pm
Ok I will be workin on the Archer Aeris very shortly but I saw the original dancer version and i almost puked lol. It looked horrible so i had to re-do it and here it is!! I gotta make the gold bracelets more noticeable though.
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Post by: Vanya on October 09, 2008, 09:32:17 pm
The bracelets on the side view are too dark. Otherwise it's pretty damn good. =)
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Post by: DarthPaul on October 09, 2008, 10:58:04 pm
i like it but yes the bracelets are too dark or light depending on the view
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Post by: Cheetah on October 10, 2008, 12:24:26 am
It looks very good, though I'm wondering why even have bracelets...
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Post by: Tea on October 10, 2008, 01:03:20 am
wizard bracelets for all her magicks.
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Post by: Vanya on October 10, 2008, 12:21:00 pm
They are part of the character's original design! =)
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Post by: DarthPaul on October 10, 2008, 12:29:23 pm
yup if ya want aeris then ya gotta do it right and doin right has bracelets
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Post by: LastingDawn on October 10, 2008, 01:18:25 pm
Does that mean Sephiroth with the original art will have his rainbow pauldron?
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Post by: DarthPaul on October 10, 2008, 03:15:59 pm
@LD: ???
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on October 10, 2008, 07:10:59 pm
Oh sorry I forgot to change the side bracelets color. They are meant to be gold like the other views.
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Post by: Vanya on October 10, 2008, 07:38:21 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"@LD: ???

ditto! =O
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Post by: Cyberblade on October 10, 2008, 09:42:46 pm
Again ??? @LD
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Post by: LastingDawn on October 11, 2008, 11:54:02 am
IF I recall correctly, Sephiroth in Amano's original art had a rainbow pauldron on his left shoulder (or belt, or something...) all I remember is that this is being reflected in Dissidia and some discussion regarding it arose at eyesonff.
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Post by: Vanya on October 11, 2008, 01:43:57 pm
got a picture? haven't been able to find one in color.
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Post by: DarthPaul on October 11, 2008, 01:50:27 pm
neither have i it would be nice to see in color
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Post by: LastingDawn on October 11, 2008, 01:56:53 pm
"Uh sephiroth was in the video! i know sephiroth when i see him thank u very much. he had a stupid belt on and some colours on his shoulder pad thing."
As far as I could tell his pauldron was relatively colorful in it.

(http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/a/a4/AmanoSeph.jpg)
Is how Amano originally wanted him to look and that seems to be the case with him in Dissidia.
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Post by: Vanya on October 11, 2008, 03:27:24 pm
Actually, Amano wasn't the character designer in ff7, he just did illustrations based on the designs he was given. Personally I always liked his illustrations better than the actual character designs used in any of the games. Judging from the video the pauldron isn't that bad. The belt I could do without.
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Post by: DarthPaul on October 11, 2008, 04:23:50 pm
he does some good illustrations
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Post by: Cheetah on October 11, 2008, 05:14:12 pm
I never really was a fan of Amano.
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Post by: Xifanie on October 11, 2008, 07:57:26 pm
me neither :/
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Post by: Vanya on October 11, 2008, 08:36:08 pm
Acquired taste I guess. =)
Been a fan since the first time I saw VampHunterD.
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Post by: Zozma on October 12, 2008, 01:51:20 am
well u know i sort of like it,

but it looks better after being doctored a bit (like the ff6 character portraits)
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Post by: Zozma on October 29, 2008, 05:20:08 pm
hmmmm there is no FFT aeris on the main page...
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on November 26, 2008, 07:30:54 pm
Ok ive been workin on Aeris again. Im gettin pretty far. I made the bracelets smaller and i turned them silver like in Advent children. I also added a different belt based off the shrine knights'. Does it look better?
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Post by: Zozma on November 26, 2008, 07:43:56 pm
no no, she doesnt, will the original aeris please stand up... thank you!
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on November 26, 2008, 08:00:03 pm
Lol sorry i just looked her up and i felt stupid after i said that thats why its deleted. Well heres her without her belt. Tell me wat you think
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Post by: Zozma on November 26, 2008, 08:32:13 pm
in my own opinion the belt made the sprite too busy. theres really no need for it here. i have no idea why they decided to add one later.

so thats much better, i think anyway.
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Post by: Vanya on November 26, 2008, 10:32:52 pm
I like it, but aren't the bracers yellow in the FF7 model? They look coppery in that pic, though.

Here:
(http://img.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/106451/aeris-death_qjgenth.jpg)

And here:
(This one's just hot)
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2039/aerisvh6.png)

And and here:
(This is just messed up)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_a4LPXQzkoDE/RpWSaSJGSaI/AAAAAAAAAMo/oLsuagB5VPo/IMG_0554.JPG)
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Post by: Zozma on November 26, 2008, 10:38:21 pm
again look at the picture i posted, they are not copper they are a normal metal color.....

Edit: well anyway.... looking at cutscene pictures from the original game it is bronze/goldish i guess its really up to you... which ever one allows a smoother look id go with that.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on November 26, 2008, 11:19:10 pm
silver looks a lot better because gold colors blended with the skin too much making it less noticeable. I only have a few animations left and then fixing up the arms for the attack animations then shes done.
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Post by: Vanya on November 27, 2008, 02:03:21 am
Is there room for the silvery edging at the ends of her jacket sleeves?
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on March 23, 2009, 07:59:04 pm
AERIS HAD BEEN REVIVED AND YOU CAN THANK SMASH FOR IT!!! if he never did that front diagonal view of his aeris i would have never gotten interest in it for awhile....Now a history of FF7 Aeris in FFT Format...
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Post by: Vanya on March 23, 2009, 09:15:36 pm
Very nice! ^_^
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Post by: SilvasRuin on March 23, 2009, 09:33:55 pm
Looks good, and it is quite possibly readily recognized.  Already knowing who it is makes the perception biased, but I think someone could tell without needing more than a glance.  (I say that because I believe something was said to be off about the hair in Smash's incarnation.)
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Post by: Zozma on March 24, 2009, 09:57:08 pm
i think it would be best if you could talk smash into animating all of the walking frames and the arms for walking. that way it would be possible to be as consistant as possible with the look... but hey hes a busy d00d...
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Post by: Cheetah on March 24, 2009, 10:08:22 pm
Smash has actually stated that he is committed to finishing the Aeris Sprite.
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Post by: Zozma on March 25, 2009, 01:04:38 am
awesome, then i could use the ff7 version alongside barret :D