Title: Official Mercenaries Title screen!
Post by: LastingDawn on July 15, 2009, 05:15:00 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on July 15, 2009, 05:15:00 pm
Well, Melonhead released an Amazing new addition to Shishi today, that I cannot help but share! Do you recall those old, slightly glitchy pictures, with the all blue Gafgarion and Agrias, and the... oy, complete screwups afterwards, so here we are!
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_15072009_165918_0565.png)
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/test2.jpg)
The original, to show what it looks like clean
As it stands the original FFT logo does not look so great on this background, nor did I just want to slap on "Mercenaries" in a poor font under it.
Thankfully we have Voldemort helping us in this venture, I am certain that he will be a terrific job with it!
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_15072009_165918_0565.png)
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/test2.jpg)
The original, to show what it looks like clean
As it stands the original FFT logo does not look so great on this background, nor did I just want to slap on "Mercenaries" in a poor font under it.
Thankfully we have Voldemort helping us in this venture, I am certain that he will be a terrific job with it!
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Post by: mav on July 16, 2009, 01:06:03 pm
Post by: mav on July 16, 2009, 01:06:03 pm
Holy crap, that's gorgeous! Hopefully a nice logo will come about from all of this.
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Post by: Cheetah on July 16, 2009, 02:28:15 pm
Post by: Cheetah on July 16, 2009, 02:28:15 pm
I love this btw. But you are probably going to ahve to change Agrias to Ramza haha.
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Post by: LastingDawn on July 16, 2009, 04:04:28 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on July 16, 2009, 04:04:28 pm
Well Agrias vs. Gafgarion is an ongoing theme throughout the story of Mercenaries. She is the head of the supporting cast as it stands, also it's meant to be rather symbolic, light against dark, leader against leader, the Holy Knight and her antithesis, also it's what the picture contains, hehe... ideally, I would like one of those "shadows" like they've done in ever FF since 4, that shows a silhouette of Ramza, Rad, and Gafgarion, over the logo, but I'll see what Voldemort manage to cook up before I presuppose.
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Post by: mav on July 16, 2009, 05:26:59 pm
Post by: mav on July 16, 2009, 05:26:59 pm
Are you guys going to utilize the Final Fantasy font (http://www.dafont.com/final-fantasy.font)?
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Post by: LastingDawn on July 16, 2009, 05:30:38 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on July 16, 2009, 05:30:38 pm
Hmm, I will have to point Voldemort to this, thanks.
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Post by: Archael on July 16, 2009, 06:08:44 pm
Post by: Archael on July 16, 2009, 06:08:44 pm
Here's my submissions:
No Scroll overlay:
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2eohf8x.png)
25% Overlay:
(http://i31.tinypic.com/zkpc2r.png)
33% Overlay:
(http://i31.tinypic.com/20ap6w9.png)
No Scroll overlay:
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2eohf8x.png)
25% Overlay:
(http://i31.tinypic.com/zkpc2r.png)
33% Overlay:
(http://i31.tinypic.com/20ap6w9.png)
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Post by: Vanya on July 16, 2009, 06:55:48 pm
Post by: Vanya on July 16, 2009, 06:55:48 pm
I like that, Arch.
Try moving the logo a few pixels to the right so it isn't up against the edge so much.
Also, it might look good with a less refined font for the 'Mercenaries' part.
Try moving the logo a few pixels to the right so it isn't up against the edge so much.
Also, it might look good with a less refined font for the 'Mercenaries' part.
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Post by: Archael on July 16, 2009, 08:08:23 pm
Post by: Archael on July 16, 2009, 08:08:23 pm
fux
I think I merged layers on the "FFT" logo that I cropped
not sure how to move it now
I think I merged layers on the "FFT" logo that I cropped
not sure how to move it now
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Post by: SilvasRuin on July 16, 2009, 08:20:55 pm
Post by: SilvasRuin on July 16, 2009, 08:20:55 pm
I think I favor the 25% overlay.
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Post by: Archael on July 16, 2009, 08:33:02 pm
Post by: Archael on July 16, 2009, 08:33:02 pm
Vanya's suggestions, improved font, moved site address to the left to match game menu
(http://i27.tinypic.com/de5mqg.png)
(http://i27.tinypic.com/de5mqg.png)
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Post by: Archael on July 16, 2009, 08:41:36 pm
Post by: Archael on July 16, 2009, 08:41:36 pm
Transparent letter filling:
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2a8mavd.png)
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7099/scus9422116072009210012.png)
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2a8mavd.png)
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7099/scus9422116072009210012.png)
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Post by: SilvasRuin on July 16, 2009, 09:05:24 pm
Post by: SilvasRuin on July 16, 2009, 09:05:24 pm
I like the improvement it made. There aren't any other immediately obvious ways to improve upon it at this point. Very nice.
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Post by: TRC on July 16, 2009, 09:06:14 pm
Post by: TRC on July 16, 2009, 09:06:14 pm
looks sexy
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Post by: mav on July 16, 2009, 10:29:22 pm
Post by: mav on July 16, 2009, 10:29:22 pm
Looks pretty good--I think you should use a simple font for the FFHacktics part though. Like Verdana (or some equivalent), bold, size 10. Ideally, if you could use the same font that the copyright is written in, that'd look gorgeous. This'll even help make the Mercenaries logo look more unique.
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Post by: Archael on July 17, 2009, 01:40:56 pm
Post by: Archael on July 17, 2009, 01:40:56 pm
if anyone can get that font for me, I'll use it for the www.ffhacktics.com (http://www.ffhacktics.com) part
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Post by: mav on July 17, 2009, 04:55:39 pm
Post by: mav on July 17, 2009, 04:55:39 pm
Hmm, I know melonhead was able to get the dialog font, but I don't know if anyone has gotten that font...I'll look around for it.
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Post by: tithin on July 18, 2009, 01:25:53 am
Post by: tithin on July 18, 2009, 01:25:53 am
Try placing the square copyright to the bottom left of the screen, and the website link to the bottom right.
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Post by: Archael on July 18, 2009, 03:48:04 pm
Post by: Archael on July 18, 2009, 03:48:04 pm
Quote from: "tithin"Try placing the square copyright to the bottom left of the screen, and the website link to the bottom right.
the 1997/1998 square part is displayed by the game itself
I can't move it...
I didn't do it
you can't prove it
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Post by: Shade on July 18, 2009, 06:02:29 pm
Post by: Shade on July 18, 2009, 06:02:29 pm
I think you can you just need to know how to edit it.
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Post by: LastingDawn on July 19, 2009, 02:20:52 am
Post by: LastingDawn on July 19, 2009, 02:20:52 am
It is much easier said, then done and while it sounds simple, it probably is not so easilyaccomplished in reality. Everything in Mercenaries I have tried to rely on the current tools available, as of now I know no tools that can be used to edit the print on the Title Screen.
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Post by: Cheetah on July 19, 2009, 03:11:39 am
Post by: Cheetah on July 19, 2009, 03:11:39 am
At the rate Melonhead and I are finding all the offsets for this stuff I'm sure we could figure this out if it was really needed. But it is such a minor thing. Though I might want to edit it for FFT:C so I will tell you if I figure it out LD.
But yeah certainly not easy.
But yeah certainly not easy.
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Post by: Archael on July 19, 2009, 11:53:55 am
Post by: Archael on July 19, 2009, 11:53:55 am
comparison:
Papyrus Font
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7099/scus9422116072009210012.png)
Optimus Font
(http://i31.tinypic.com/2dt9efc.png)
Papyrus Font
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7099/scus9422116072009210012.png)
Optimus Font
(http://i31.tinypic.com/2dt9efc.png)
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Post by: CT5Holy on July 19, 2009, 12:16:43 pm
Post by: CT5Holy on July 19, 2009, 12:16:43 pm
My vote goes for the second one.
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Post by: beawulfx on July 19, 2009, 12:26:30 pm
Post by: beawulfx on July 19, 2009, 12:26:30 pm
Optimus looks better IMO. It's a little more plain/simple I guess but I think that works a lot better for the screen.
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Post by: mav on July 19, 2009, 01:02:24 pm
Post by: mav on July 19, 2009, 01:02:24 pm
I agree, the second font is nicer and simpler. Though I'd suggest to use a stroke for the FFHhacktics part, as opposed to a glow.
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Post by: Archael on July 19, 2009, 03:02:26 pm
Post by: Archael on July 19, 2009, 03:02:26 pm
- added Mav's suggestion
- made MERCENARIES wider so it matches FFT logo in width
- made ffhacktics.com more in line with Square 1997/1998
(http://i31.tinypic.com/23sw6k6.png)
- made MERCENARIES wider so it matches FFT logo in width
- made ffhacktics.com more in line with Square 1997/1998
(http://i31.tinypic.com/23sw6k6.png)
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Post by: Xifanie on July 19, 2009, 04:10:21 pm
Post by: Xifanie on July 19, 2009, 04:10:21 pm
Perfect font for Mercenaries, but I don't like the bigger font / caps for "FFH" in www.ffhacktics.com (http://www.ffhacktics.com).
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Post by: Archael on July 19, 2009, 04:53:08 pm
Post by: Archael on July 19, 2009, 04:53:08 pm
it was LD's idea 
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Post by: mav on July 19, 2009, 07:34:36 pm
Post by: mav on July 19, 2009, 07:34:36 pm
An alternative, perhaps? I've "recreated" the font used in that Square 1997/1998 part. Here's a mockup of how it could look on-screen. Voldemort, if you're interested, I'd be happy to post a png of the font alone and fill you in on how to replicate the look of the Square font.
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Post by: Archael on July 19, 2009, 08:09:12 pm
Post by: Archael on July 19, 2009, 08:09:12 pm
sure, ask LD though
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Post by: LastingDawn on July 19, 2009, 08:23:14 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on July 19, 2009, 08:23:14 pm
Hmm... that looks a bit difficult on the eyes, while it doesn't clash it... hmm... well, is this only for the FFHacktics.com portions?
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Post by: mav on July 19, 2009, 10:37:09 pm
Post by: mav on July 19, 2009, 10:37:09 pm
Fuck, I forgot to mention that there's some messiness on the FFHacktics part. I'm trying to replicate the way it looks on the Square portion, but the effect came out too strong. Likewise the stroke isn't perfect. I could post a cleaner version, but if you're not interested it's perfectly fine--this is your project, after all.
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Post by: SilvasRuin on July 19, 2009, 10:53:14 pm
Post by: SilvasRuin on July 19, 2009, 10:53:14 pm
If I were you, I'd go ahead and post the cleaner version and give it the same overlay Voldemort's been giving his. It won't hurt anything, and it will allow LastingDawn to see it sooner if he wants to than you waiting for his go ahead to post it.
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on July 19, 2009, 11:18:08 pm
Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on July 19, 2009, 11:18:08 pm
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/papyrus.png)
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Post by: mav on July 19, 2009, 11:22:33 pm
Post by: mav on July 19, 2009, 11:22:33 pm
Alright, I took a stab at what Silvas suggested. Unfortunately, it's kinda incomplete--but you can see clearly how the cleaner font would look with the overlay.
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Post by: SilvasRuin on July 20, 2009, 12:12:06 am
Post by: SilvasRuin on July 20, 2009, 12:12:06 am
That looks much better. It looks like it would blend with the Square logo pretty well. I think that is the look to go with for the web address.
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Post by: Archael on July 20, 2009, 08:00:43 am
Post by: Archael on July 20, 2009, 08:00:43 am
Quote from: "mav"Alright, I took a stab at what Silvas suggested. Unfortunately, it's kinda incomplete--but you can see clearly how the cleaner font would look with the overlay.
how do I merge your part of the image with my .png?
I would copy and paste it but I think your address is off where it's supposed to be in relation to the in-game crap
if it's correctly placed I'll just copy paste that part into mine and upload the .png
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Post by: mav on July 20, 2009, 11:57:22 am
Post by: mav on July 20, 2009, 11:57:22 am
Sweet.
I've attached the font with a [hopefully] transparent background. If the background isn't transparent (it'll probably be a nasty pink color), just edit that out and place the font wherever it needs to go. If you still have your file before it's been made more transparent, then it shouldn't be a problem: just copy/paste it onto your file, do your transparency and everything should be fine and dandy.
Heh, hopefully that made sense.
EDIT: Shit, did you want me to do a copy job over yours, Voldemort? I couldn't get the transparency exact, so I resorted to making the font in a transparent PNG. And if you want me to recolor the font, I can do that pretty quick.
I've attached the font with a [hopefully] transparent background. If the background isn't transparent (it'll probably be a nasty pink color), just edit that out and place the font wherever it needs to go. If you still have your file before it's been made more transparent, then it shouldn't be a problem: just copy/paste it onto your file, do your transparency and everything should be fine and dandy.
Heh, hopefully that made sense.
EDIT: Shit, did you want me to do a copy job over yours, Voldemort? I couldn't get the transparency exact, so I resorted to making the font in a transparent PNG. And if you want me to recolor the font, I can do that pretty quick.
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Post by: Archael on July 20, 2009, 01:01:35 pm
Post by: Archael on July 20, 2009, 01:01:35 pm
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2njak2s.png)
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Post by: mav on July 20, 2009, 01:28:45 pm
Post by: mav on July 20, 2009, 01:28:45 pm
I like it. Do you want me to recolor the black and white, so it looks more faded?
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Post by: Archael on July 20, 2009, 01:30:35 pm
Post by: Archael on July 20, 2009, 01:30:35 pm
it doesn't need to look faded, the things you made it match with (Square 1997/1998, New Game buttons etc) are not faded at all
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Post by: melonhead on July 20, 2009, 01:30:54 pm
Post by: melonhead on July 20, 2009, 01:30:54 pm
I told you guys the other day that the copyright and main menu options can be changed. The images are in OPNTEX.BIN
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Post by: Archael on July 20, 2009, 01:38:18 pm
Post by: Archael on July 20, 2009, 01:38:18 pm
Quote from: "melonhead"I told you guys the other day that the copyright and main menu options can be changed. The images are in OPNTEX.BIN
we totally ignored you like we always do
cuz we are morons like that
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Post by: mav on July 20, 2009, 01:46:58 pm
Post by: mav on July 20, 2009, 01:46:58 pm
Quote from: "melonhead"I told you guys the other day that the copyright and main menu options can be changed. The images are in OPNTEX.BINBlimey. Are we gonna look into this, or is it not worth the effort?
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Post by: Archael on July 20, 2009, 01:49:43 pm
Post by: Archael on July 20, 2009, 01:49:43 pm
I'll do whatever LD wants to do, but IMO it's damn near perfect right now
kek
kek
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Post by: LastingDawn on July 20, 2009, 02:16:51 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on July 20, 2009, 02:16:51 pm
Hmm... if by "look into it" hope that Melonhead has it in the newest version of Shishi (this is just a guess...) then yes, it's worth a look. If not, well then we'll use what's available to us. Which is these matters, regardless great work Mav and Voldemort, as it stands that actually looks pretty good!
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Post by: mav on July 20, 2009, 05:35:22 pm
Post by: mav on July 20, 2009, 05:35:22 pm
Dammit, there were a couple imperfections in what I uploaded. Sorry about that guys, I fixed 'em though--here's the re-post.
Again, all apologies.
Again, all apologies.
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Post by: Archael on July 20, 2009, 06:34:50 pm
Post by: Archael on July 20, 2009, 06:34:50 pm
what imperfections?
this looks fine IMO... I think you added more black border to it? :O
old one for comparison:
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2njak2s.png)
this looks fine IMO... I think you added more black border to it? :O
old one for comparison:
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2njak2s.png)
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Post by: mav on July 20, 2009, 06:39:24 pm
Post by: mav on July 20, 2009, 06:39:24 pm
The first C has a hanging white pixel, and a couple of the letters were kinda missing borders. But, whatever, it's negligible.
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Post by: LastingDawn on July 20, 2009, 07:05:53 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on July 20, 2009, 07:05:53 pm
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_20072009_185326_0128.png)
That's what it looks like ingame, for reference, I think it looks very nice.
That's what it looks like ingame, for reference, I think it looks very nice.
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Post by: beawulfx on July 20, 2009, 08:50:26 pm
Post by: beawulfx on July 20, 2009, 08:50:26 pm
That really looks fantastic. I love it. Very professional. That 'mercenaries' font looks exceptional.
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Post by: SilvasRuin on July 20, 2009, 09:35:42 pm
Post by: SilvasRuin on July 20, 2009, 09:35:42 pm
Was it purposeful that the address is a different shade from the copyright?
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Post by: mav on July 20, 2009, 09:38:31 pm
Post by: mav on July 20, 2009, 09:38:31 pm
Yes and no: I wanted to mimic the copyright colors and font properly, but couldn't, so I decided to aim for legibility instead.
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Post by: Archael on July 21, 2009, 04:04:50 am
Post by: Archael on July 21, 2009, 04:04:50 am
feels good man
err I mean looks good man, looks good
err I mean looks good man, looks good
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Post by: Xifanie on July 21, 2009, 10:59:33 am
Post by: Xifanie on July 21, 2009, 10:59:33 am
I got a good feeling!
All I feel that needs changing are www.ffhacktics.com's (http://www.ffhacktics.com's) colors. A more greyish outline and more beigeish white.
All I feel that needs changing are www.ffhacktics.com's (http://www.ffhacktics.com's) colors. A more greyish outline and more beigeish white.
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Post by: mav on July 21, 2009, 04:46:41 pm
Post by: mav on July 21, 2009, 04:46:41 pm
Sounds like a plan. Take a gander, folks:
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Post by: beawulfx on July 21, 2009, 05:35:45 pm
Post by: beawulfx on July 21, 2009, 05:35:45 pm
That is indeed nicer. Much smoother and natural looking. Good job!
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Post by: mav on July 22, 2009, 02:10:29 pm
Post by: mav on July 22, 2009, 02:10:29 pm
I like it as well--hopefully LD will too. The colors distinguish the font from the copyright and all that nonsense, making the new screen look a bit more uniform, in my opinion.
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Post by: LastingDawn on July 22, 2009, 09:55:56 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on July 22, 2009, 09:55:56 pm
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_22072009_215303_0348.png)
Alright, that should do it. Looks good to me, at least.
Alright, that should do it. Looks good to me, at least.
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Post by: Archael on July 23, 2009, 06:35:24 am
Post by: Archael on July 23, 2009, 06:35:24 am
not to be anal
but I liked how this previous one looked with the menu items
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_20072009_185326_0128.png)
but I liked how this previous one looked with the menu items
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_20072009_185326_0128.png)
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Post by: mav on July 23, 2009, 11:58:11 am
Post by: mav on July 23, 2009, 11:58:11 am
Should we put this in a poll and let the votes decide?
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Post by: Mental_Gear on July 28, 2009, 02:53:54 pm
Post by: Mental_Gear on July 28, 2009, 02:53:54 pm
When Melonhead said you could change 1997 / 1998 Square I assume he didn't mean TacText?
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 04, 2009, 11:57:24 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 04, 2009, 11:57:24 pm
Since I found this MERCENARIES project very interesting,..
I'll contribute. :P
Personally, there were some cons with the latest submission by Voldemort.
Although I like the lively colors,
It seems somewhat dull, and the vivid colors won't fit the theme well.
Because of the colors, the FOCAL POINT, which is the logo, had less focus.
IMHO, It will be better if we focus on the logo itself first.
I tried making one myself, and able to come up with these:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig.jpg)
I print-screenED the background of the original FFT title screen,
and simply bump-mapped the image. :P
I'll contribute. :P
Personally, there were some cons with the latest submission by Voldemort.
Although I like the lively colors,
It seems somewhat dull, and the vivid colors won't fit the theme well.
Because of the colors, the FOCAL POINT, which is the logo, had less focus.
IMHO, It will be better if we focus on the logo itself first.
I tried making one myself, and able to come up with these:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig.jpg)
I print-screenED the background of the original FFT title screen,
and simply bump-mapped the image. :P
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Post by: CT5Holy on August 05, 2009, 12:04:54 am
Post by: CT5Holy on August 05, 2009, 12:04:54 am
Wow, this looks fantastic.
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 05, 2009, 12:08:24 am
Post by: LastingDawn on August 05, 2009, 12:08:24 am
I cannot but agree! Let's give this a look at how it seems ingame! This is truly a fantastic image, and I'm glad to see you like the work we've done on it so far!
EDIT: I've seen it in game and it looks quite great! That logo with the sparkles does actually look better then I thought it would!
EDIT: I've seen it in game and it looks quite great! That logo with the sparkles does actually look better then I thought it would!
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 05, 2009, 12:26:46 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 05, 2009, 12:26:46 am
Wouw. Thanks!
Didn't expect that Sir LD would like it.
Didn't expect that Sir LD would like it.
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Post by: mav on August 05, 2009, 12:28:50 am
Post by: mav on August 05, 2009, 12:28:50 am
If you can get the outline for the Final Fantasy Tactics part to look cleaner, that'd be quite nice. And I think the FFHacktics.com part needs to be clearer overall. But yes, this is very nice, I especially like the Mercenaries font. Again all the fonts really need to be cleaner and clearer--they look too pixely right now.
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 05, 2009, 12:33:20 am
Post by: LastingDawn on August 05, 2009, 12:33:20 am
Only problem I see now is the TM, haha! I need rid of that and fast! If Square needs one thing to jump on us about, it will be that. Remove it and it'll be golden though.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 05, 2009, 05:44:18 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 05, 2009, 05:44:18 am
Well, I did the pixelated fonts on purpose. :P
Sure thing, I'll remove the TM! and make the text clearer.
EDIT
Compare:
Changes:
-Made the FFT text mercenaries text cleaner and cleaner.
-Made it less pixely / pixelated.
-Create more white opaque with the text, and darkened the bg, to add more contrast.
-Removed the TM symbol.
Sure thing, I'll remove the TM! and make the text clearer.
EDIT
Compare:
old:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig.jpg)
new:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig-1.jpg)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig.jpg)
new:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig-1.jpg)
Changes:
-Made the FFT text mercenaries text cleaner and cleaner.
-Made it less pixely / pixelated.
-Create more white opaque with the text, and darkened the bg, to add more contrast.
-Removed the TM symbol.
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Post by: Archael on August 05, 2009, 06:41:49 am
Post by: Archael on August 05, 2009, 06:41:49 am
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig-1.jpg)
this one looks MUCH MUCH better
the only problem is you can't see gafgarion at all
this one looks MUCH MUCH better
the only problem is you can't see gafgarion at all
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 05, 2009, 06:51:40 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 05, 2009, 06:51:40 am
Oh yeah. That's the catch. :ban:
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Post by: Asmo X on August 05, 2009, 10:29:54 am
Post by: Asmo X on August 05, 2009, 10:29:54 am
thats pretty rad
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 05, 2009, 11:11:06 am
Post by: LastingDawn on August 05, 2009, 11:11:06 am
Indeed, it looks much better, I think it looks more balanced without the TM personally. Though yes, I'd love to see the version that allows one to better see Gafgarion.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 05, 2009, 11:36:08 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 05, 2009, 11:36:08 am
Okay. Here it goes..
v3:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig-2.jpg)
gaf and agrias images have been lowered
v2 (older)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig-1.jpg)
v3:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig-2.jpg)
gaf and agrias images have been lowered
v2 (older)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig-1.jpg)
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Post by: Asmo X on August 05, 2009, 12:03:55 pm
Post by: Asmo X on August 05, 2009, 12:03:55 pm
I have a crazy idea. How about getting rid of the "ffhacktics.com". Plugging the site just seems to degrade the screen a bit
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Post by: mav on August 05, 2009, 12:26:48 pm
Post by: mav on August 05, 2009, 12:26:48 pm
v3 looks quite nice: the text is and the background is in good perspective. But I think Asmo may be right--maybe we should take out the ffhacktics.com part from the image permanently, unless we can edit OPNTEX.BIN
I'm curious though, what image did you take the Final Fantasy Tactics logo from? Right now it looks like it was taken out without anti-alias, which has left parts of it a little more jagged than necessary (look at the A and the C).
I'm curious though, what image did you take the Final Fantasy Tactics logo from? Right now it looks like it was taken out without anti-alias, which has left parts of it a little more jagged than necessary (look at the A and the C).
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 05, 2009, 12:42:46 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 05, 2009, 12:42:46 pm
Hm, I took the LOGO from the official psx fft logo without transparency. So, I just remove the bg from the logo and that's what I got.
I might fix it later this week. Then, since you guys didn't like the ffhacktics part, I'll remove it with the fixed font.
Thanks!
I might fix it later this week. Then, since you guys didn't like the ffhacktics part, I'll remove it with the fixed font.
Thanks!
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Post by: Archael on August 05, 2009, 12:55:17 pm
Post by: Archael on August 05, 2009, 12:55:17 pm
melonhead said many times that we can edit the graphics that display 1997 / 1998 SQUARE to show something else (like ffhacktics.com)
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Post by: mav on August 05, 2009, 06:25:32 pm
Post by: mav on August 05, 2009, 06:25:32 pm
Quote from: "MiKeMiTchi"Hm, I took the LOGO from the official psx fft logo without transparency. So, I just remove the bg from the logo and that's what I got.I edited the WoTL logo a bit, and was able to muster up a pretty decent render of the FFT logo. If the quality is good enough, this might save you some time. If not...well, more work for you then.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 05, 2009, 08:45:50 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 05, 2009, 08:45:50 pm
Thanks a lot, mav!
That would surely save my time.
EDIT
v4:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig-3.jpg)
changes:
-Removed the ffhacktics.com part
-used mav's rendered fft logo (bigger)
-made the FFT text less pixelated, but more blurred.
(Looks better now, imo)
Any comments?
Progress so far:
That would surely save my time.
EDIT
v4:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig-3.jpg)
changes:
-Removed the ffhacktics.com part
-used mav's rendered fft logo (bigger)
-made the FFT text less pixelated, but more blurred.
(Looks better now, imo)
Any comments?
Progress so far:
v4:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig-3.jpg)
v3:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig-2.jpg)
v2:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig-1.jpg)
v1:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig.jpg)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig-3.jpg)
v3:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig-2.jpg)
v2:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig-1.jpg)
v1:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig.jpg)
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 06, 2009, 11:59:57 am
Post by: LastingDawn on August 06, 2009, 11:59:57 am
Hmm, as they say, less is more! It's really starting to shape up very well.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 06, 2009, 12:37:47 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 06, 2009, 12:37:47 pm
Yeah. I hope it will turn out great.
Oh, btw sir LD, I updated my last post in the Gambler discussion.
Oh, btw sir LD, I updated my last post in the Gambler discussion.
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Post by: mav on August 06, 2009, 01:21:18 pm
Post by: mav on August 06, 2009, 01:21:18 pm
v4 looks perfect, in my opinion. In fact...it looks complete--is there anything else that needs to be done?
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 06, 2009, 02:06:51 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on August 06, 2009, 02:06:51 pm
Well, aside fro the planne FF-classic Silhouette of a character (or characters) (I plan for it to be Rad sitting in a tree looking up, Ramza sitting at the trunk looking down and Gafgarion's gaze steadied)
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 06, 2009, 08:39:52 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 06, 2009, 08:39:52 pm
Is there such an image? I was planning to add silhouettes, too. But I will need some mercenary resources..
Line art would do. Even a drawn by pencil fan art image would be useful.
Line art would do. Even a drawn by pencil fan art image would be useful.
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 06, 2009, 09:17:07 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on August 06, 2009, 09:17:07 pm
Well, Ramza is normally garbed in his second outfit, Rad looks as he does in Mercenaries, (Warrior v1.2 which you can find in the Custom sprite download secion) and a helmetless Gafgarion which you can also see in the custom sprite downloads. Unfortunately my art skills are not good to show such a thing, my art skills aren't really good enough to show... well anything.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 21, 2009, 10:02:40 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 21, 2009, 10:02:40 am
^ Sir LD, I think it might be better if you post that on the Mercenaries Art thread.
Okay, I tested the title screen myself.
What do you think? This is how it'll look in-game.
(epsxe, 1280x800 comp res, 640x480 win res)
(peops soft driver 1.18 video plugin used)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/SpriteWorks/titlescreen.jpg)
Okay, I tested the title screen myself.
What do you think? This is how it'll look in-game.
(epsxe, 1280x800 comp res, 640x480 win res)
(peops soft driver 1.18 video plugin used)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/SpriteWorks/titlescreen.jpg)
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Post by: mav on August 21, 2009, 11:35:45 am
Post by: mav on August 21, 2009, 11:35:45 am
Looks perfect, in my opinion. Very well done.
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 22, 2009, 02:20:23 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on August 22, 2009, 02:20:23 pm
Oh yes, feel free to add it to the Mercenaries Art Thread, no reason why not.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 23, 2009, 12:09:08 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 23, 2009, 12:09:08 am
Hehe. If you guys need help on some image editing, I would thankfully help!!
I would help on changing the chapter titles, gameover screen, etc..
What would you like me to do, Sir LD?
I would help on changing the chapter titles, gameover screen, etc..
What would you like me to do, Sir LD?
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 23, 2009, 08:28:25 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on August 23, 2009, 08:28:25 pm
Quote from: "MiKeMiTchi"Hehe. If you guys need help on some image editing, I would thankfully help!!
I would help on changing the chapter titles, gameover screen, etc..
What would you like me to do, Sir LD?
Let's see... we have a few chapter titles in the mix, but nothing definite, if you would like to work on a new GameOver screen though, that would be pretty nice!
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 23, 2009, 11:30:09 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 23, 2009, 11:30:09 pm
I have a question for the gameover screen.
Do the screen really turn blue when the "gameover" appears?
Can we change that?
Do the screen really turn blue when the "gameover" appears?
Can we change that?
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Post by: Xifanie on August 24, 2009, 12:57:58 am
Post by: Xifanie on August 24, 2009, 12:57:58 am
Yeah, it's the event 0x0193 or something, LD might have noted it.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 24, 2009, 03:27:32 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 24, 2009, 03:27:32 am
I see.
What do you guys suggest for the GameOver screen??
What do you guys suggest for the GameOver screen??
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 24, 2009, 09:57:31 am
Post by: LastingDawn on August 24, 2009, 09:57:31 am
That's really a tricky one... hmm... what do you have in mind, MikeMitchi?
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 24, 2009, 10:03:01 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 24, 2009, 10:03:01 am
Well, nothing as of now, but I think.. it's better if we place a picture of Ramza being fallen.
How's that sound?
Oh btw, I have finished the gambler sprite.
Check it out on the gambler thread. Thanks!
How's that sound?
Oh btw, I have finished the gambler sprite.
Check it out on the gambler thread. Thanks!
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 24, 2009, 10:20:34 am
Post by: LastingDawn on August 24, 2009, 10:20:34 am
Well keep in mind, MikeMitchi, the game also ends when Rad falls (crystal or treasure box) or certain mission objectives aren't upheld. Leaving it only to show Ramza's fate is a bit... betraying of the overall principle of the characters, as the game makes sure to focus on Rad, Ramza, and Gafgarion in equal terms (not that Gafgarion isn't Immortal... he is, so a gameover from him isn't a possibility.) Hmm, I'm a bit torn on what to do with this..
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 24, 2009, 10:35:25 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 24, 2009, 10:35:25 am
^ Well, can we also edit the Now Loading screen? or Now loading text only?
I really want to copy the 'now loading screen' of Suikoden's.
Wherein a character is running while loading, besides the 'now loading'.
For the gameover,.. hmm..
I really want to copy the 'now loading screen' of Suikoden's.
Wherein a character is running while loading, besides the 'now loading'.
For the gameover,.. hmm..
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 24, 2009, 10:42:47 am
Post by: LastingDawn on August 24, 2009, 10:42:47 am
I'm not sure that's very possible MikeMitchi, mainly because I think "now loading" is really only that small and I believe it's in Frame.bin if memory serves me correctly.
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Post by: SplashWoman on August 24, 2009, 11:31:51 am
Post by: SplashWoman on August 24, 2009, 11:31:51 am
Ideas for a game over screen huh?
The idea of Rad and Ramza [& Gaf] lying around a battlefield KO'd seems fine to me. Unless you have a problem with a picture of them riddled with arrow holes and missing limbs.
Maybe something with Alma alone and crying?
The idea of Rad and Ramza [& Gaf] lying around a battlefield KO'd seems fine to me. Unless you have a problem with a picture of them riddled with arrow holes and missing limbs.
Maybe something with Alma alone and crying?
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 24, 2009, 11:46:09 am
Post by: LastingDawn on August 24, 2009, 11:46:09 am
Oh, an interesting idea! Alma's role is... slightly underplayed in Mercenaries, but this is a way to bring her back basically into the forefront, that's a great idea!
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 26, 2009, 04:34:31 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 26, 2009, 04:34:31 am
KILL DELITA. hehe.
Okay. I'll need a picture for that.
Sir LD, can you tell me the new chapter title for chapter 1, at least? (If it's new)
or you can PM me some details..
Also, should we change the first splash intro screen of the game?
(Like in FFT v1.3, The SCEA is changed)
Okay. I'll need a picture for that.
Sir LD, can you tell me the new chapter title for chapter 1, at least? (If it's new)
or you can PM me some details..
Also, should we change the first splash intro screen of the game?
(Like in FFT v1.3, The SCEA is changed)
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 27, 2009, 05:03:54 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on August 27, 2009, 05:03:54 pm
Well yes, it is actually planned, but I really would like to keep the "SCEA" part, removing that just feels... wrong to me.
The name for the first chapter hasn't been confirmed yet, so we can hold off on that, as far as things go.
The name for the first chapter hasn't been confirmed yet, so we can hold off on that, as far as things go.
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Post by: Archael on August 28, 2009, 04:22:02 pm
Post by: Archael on August 28, 2009, 04:22:02 pm
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/SpriteWorks/titlescreen.jpg)
this is perfect
this is perfect
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 29, 2009, 08:35:20 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 29, 2009, 08:35:20 am
Thanks Sir Voldemort!
What about changing the gameover to "mission failed"?
edit:
hmm.. forget it?
What about changing the gameover to "mission failed"?
edit:
hmm.. forget it?
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 29, 2009, 12:13:18 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on August 29, 2009, 12:13:18 pm
Mission Failed, hmm? That doesn't sound a bad idea, it seems much more fitting in with the theme of Mercenaries.
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Post by: Kagebunji on August 29, 2009, 12:38:13 pm
Post by: Kagebunji on August 29, 2009, 12:38:13 pm
It's from MGS, maybe insert Solid Snake too? 
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 29, 2009, 12:44:36 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on August 29, 2009, 12:44:36 pm
Well no "Mission Failed" is used in a lot of things, FFT even calls its battles "Missions".
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Post by: Kagebunji on August 29, 2009, 01:02:30 pm
Post by: Kagebunji on August 29, 2009, 01:02:30 pm
Well, maybe you are right LD.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 29, 2009, 08:34:13 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 29, 2009, 08:34:13 pm
QuoteMission Failed, hmm? That doesn't sound a bad idea, it seems much more fitting in with the theme of Mercenaries.
Okay. I'll try making one.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 05, 2009, 06:16:26 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 05, 2009, 06:16:26 am
A fully reworked version..
I wanted to redeem myself somehow.
I will now post the title screens in this thread.
(for relevance)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/titlescreen5v3.png)
changes:
-added the old Agrias and Gaffy image
-tweaked the Ivalice map (sharpened a bit, 1st chapter)
-border made similar to WotL
-recolored "Mercenaries" text to look more FF-styled
-added some inspiration
this should be release 5, version 3.
Comments and Critisms will be fully appreciated and
will be taken into consideration. Thanks.
Couldn't have done it without winshmo.
attached:
I wanted to redeem myself somehow.
I will now post the title screens in this thread.
(for relevance)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/titlescreen5v3.png)
changes:
-added the old Agrias and Gaffy image
-tweaked the Ivalice map (sharpened a bit, 1st chapter)
-border made similar to WotL
-recolored "Mercenaries" text to look more FF-styled
-added some inspiration
this should be release 5, version 3.
Comments and Critisms will be fully appreciated and
will be taken into consideration. Thanks.
Couldn't have done it without winshmo.
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Post by: Asmo X on September 05, 2009, 08:16:39 am
Post by: Asmo X on September 05, 2009, 08:16:39 am
Spiffy. Although I think the eye on the one on the right needs to be brought in line with the others. Their eyes are more subdued and realistic whereas the one on the right has a crazy giant anime eye. Other than that I think this is quite awesome.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 05, 2009, 08:29:37 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 05, 2009, 08:29:37 am
Quote from: "Asmo X"Spiffy. Although I think the eye on the one on the right needs to be brought in line with the others. Their eyes are more subdued and realistic whereas the one on the right has a crazy giant anime eye. Other than that I think this is quite awesome.
Okay. We'll have to wait for winshmo for the logo image update.
--
Here's a less saturated screen, plus, removed agrias and gaffy.
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Post by: Asmo X on September 05, 2009, 10:00:33 am
Post by: Asmo X on September 05, 2009, 10:00:33 am
looks sweet
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Post by: DarthPaul on September 05, 2009, 10:26:28 am
Post by: DarthPaul on September 05, 2009, 10:26:28 am
Very nice. Simple and gets the job done. No unnecessary frills.
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Post by: Xifanie on September 05, 2009, 10:40:40 am
Post by: Xifanie on September 05, 2009, 10:40:40 am
We can barely see the details, especially with Gaffy. Try sharpening it up a bit.
How about lowering the luminosity of the gradient's top color? It seems too light compared to the other one; you may have to do this for "MERCENARIES" too. This would also help revealing gaffy's hair details. I'm not sure about the white "border", I'm pretty sure it could use some work because right now I don't feel it blends that much into the world map background.
; And the giant anime eye again.
Nonetheless this is going to look fantastic
How about lowering the luminosity of the gradient's top color? It seems too light compared to the other one; you may have to do this for "MERCENARIES" too. This would also help revealing gaffy's hair details. I'm not sure about the white "border", I'm pretty sure it could use some work because right now I don't feel it blends that much into the world map background.
; And the giant anime eye again.
Nonetheless this is going to look fantastic
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Post by: Archael on September 05, 2009, 12:17:18 pm
Post by: Archael on September 05, 2009, 12:17:18 pm
(http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/files/titlemerc_831.png)
much better without the backround stuff
much better without the backround stuff
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Post by: mav on September 05, 2009, 01:10:55 pm
Post by: mav on September 05, 2009, 01:10:55 pm
Looks good with the map background--though I still think the lightest color on the gradient should be on the bottom, but whatever. Great job you two.
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Post by: Archael on September 05, 2009, 01:22:24 pm
Post by: Archael on September 05, 2009, 01:22:24 pm
stick with this one, please
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Post by: LastingDawn on September 05, 2009, 01:28:35 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on September 05, 2009, 01:28:35 pm
It is a shame the Light/Dark theme had to be nixed, but I suppose there was no helping it, if I wanted to keep the title looking examplary. This works for me, anything else that needs to be done to it before I include it ingame?
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Post by: SilvasRuin on September 05, 2009, 03:07:41 pm
Post by: SilvasRuin on September 05, 2009, 03:07:41 pm
I kind of prefer the more saturated gradient.
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Post by: Sephirot24 on September 05, 2009, 03:15:04 pm
Post by: Sephirot24 on September 05, 2009, 03:15:04 pm
Quote from: "Voldemort"(http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/files/titlemerc_831.png)
much better without the backround stuff
This is the one to go with IMO. Looks very nice =)
The 1st try, with the agrias and Gaff in the background and all saturated and shiny looked TOO shiny.
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Post by: LastingDawn on September 05, 2009, 03:24:16 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on September 05, 2009, 03:24:16 pm
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_05092009_151944_0182.png)
Even I have to say that looks Very good! Almost professional in its placement and over all execution! You can bet this will also be shown in the next video.
Even I have to say that looks Very good! Almost professional in its placement and over all execution! You can bet this will also be shown in the next video.
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Post by: Archael on September 05, 2009, 03:27:38 pm
Post by: Archael on September 05, 2009, 03:27:38 pm
keep that title screen, move on to next piece of art
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Post by: beawulfx on September 05, 2009, 03:29:02 pm
Post by: beawulfx on September 05, 2009, 03:29:02 pm
It's these little details that really impress me as much as anything. It's so great how you are really making a complete overhaul, and not at all half-assing it.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 05, 2009, 06:28:37 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 05, 2009, 06:28:37 pm
Good thing to know this will be included in the next video! :)
Hmm.. use that pic for other things..
QuoteIt is a shame the Light/Dark theme had to be nixed, but I suppose there was no helping it, if I wanted to keep the title looking examplary. This works for me, anything else that needs to be done to it before I include it ingame?
Hmm.. use that pic for other things..
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Post by: Asmo X on September 05, 2009, 11:23:30 pm
Post by: Asmo X on September 05, 2009, 11:23:30 pm
Fix that eye Wishinmo or whatever your name is!
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 06, 2009, 12:58:58 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 06, 2009, 12:58:58 am
Haha.
Here's my promised trial for the gameover screen..
someone test it please..
Here's my promised trial for the gameover screen..
someone test it please..
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Post by: winshmo on September 06, 2009, 06:05:04 am
Post by: winshmo on September 06, 2009, 06:05:04 am
haha just been back from a short vacation, long weekend for us here in the Philippines no classes on monday.. I'll post the fixed eye in a few..
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 06, 2009, 06:10:29 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 06, 2009, 06:10:29 am
Wow....And WOW!!
The title screen is really really awesome. Amazing ^^
Mike...I like to help you test it but I can't seem able to import it. Error =.= and I don't know what
The title screen is really really awesome. Amazing ^^
Mike...I like to help you test it but I can't seem able to import it. Error =.= and I don't know what
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 06, 2009, 06:34:28 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 06, 2009, 06:34:28 am
Quote from: "winshmo"haha just been back from a short vacation, long weekend for us here in the Philippines no classes on monday.. I'll post the fixed eye in a few..
Didn't know you're a fellow countrymen.
Yep. No classes. Thank Inglesia.
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Post by: winshmo on September 06, 2009, 06:34:43 am
Post by: winshmo on September 06, 2009, 06:34:43 am
fixed the evil eye
EDIT: mabuhay FFT!
EDIT: mabuhay FFT!
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Post by: Asmo X on September 06, 2009, 07:27:20 am
Post by: Asmo X on September 06, 2009, 07:27:20 am
much better.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 06, 2009, 07:29:10 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 06, 2009, 07:29:10 am
Okay. I'll get working!
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version 6..
-implemented the newest logo
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version 6..
-implemented the newest logo
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Post by: LastingDawn on September 06, 2009, 02:40:19 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on September 06, 2009, 02:40:19 pm
Looks great Winshmo! But ah one problem Mike, you have it as 254x256, when the actual size of the GameOver screen is 256x254, a common mistake to make though.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 06, 2009, 07:39:27 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 06, 2009, 07:39:27 pm
It seems that I forgot to change to size after rotating.
Here:
Here:
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Post by: ffta707 on September 15, 2009, 09:00:11 pm
Post by: ffta707 on September 15, 2009, 09:00:11 pm
Quote from: "Cheetah"I love this btw. But you are probably going to ahve to change Agrias to Ramza haha.Ha, I thought it was Ramza!
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Post by: LastingDawn on September 15, 2009, 09:25:25 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on September 15, 2009, 09:25:25 pm
Well as nice as that picture was (still Incredible in my opinion!) it just can't work for the final version of the Title Screen.
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Post by: Sephirot24 on September 15, 2009, 09:42:40 pm
Post by: Sephirot24 on September 15, 2009, 09:42:40 pm
Why? D:
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Post by: LastingDawn on September 15, 2009, 09:54:19 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on September 15, 2009, 09:54:19 pm
You haven't seen the newer one? The one with Winshmo's art? It looks like so much more professional and legitimate.
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Post by: Sephirot24 on September 15, 2009, 10:18:58 pm
Post by: Sephirot24 on September 15, 2009, 10:18:58 pm
Yes. I thought you were talking about that one, so I worried! We're keeping it right? The one from last video preview?
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Post by: LastingDawn on September 15, 2009, 10:23:28 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on September 15, 2009, 10:23:28 pm
Indeed, he's referring to the Agrias/Gafgarion picture that was the planned for a long while.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 25, 2009, 04:22:52 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 25, 2009, 04:22:52 am
Since Mercenaries will be released in parts, I think it will be useful if the Title screen would change too.
Or at least, show (by placing text somewhere) which part the player is.
Or.. we can edit the intro splash screens. hehe..
Or at least, show (by placing text somewhere) which part the player is.
Or.. we can edit the intro splash screens. hehe..
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Post by: LastingDawn on September 25, 2009, 04:24:06 am
Post by: LastingDawn on September 25, 2009, 04:24:06 am
An interesting idea, and very easily done... but wouldn't that be a bit of a burden on the artists though?
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 25, 2009, 04:30:04 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 25, 2009, 04:30:04 am
Well, we could just add a text and blend it in.
somewhere below the logo, there will be some text like "Chapter 1" or the chapter's title.
Or, we could change the mood of the screen,
change the lightness, etc.
ex., chapter 1, light title screen, chapter 4, darkest title screen.
What else could we do?
somewhere below the logo, there will be some text like "Chapter 1" or the chapter's title.
Or, we could change the mood of the screen,
change the lightness, etc.
ex., chapter 1, light title screen, chapter 4, darkest title screen.
What else could we do?
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 25, 2009, 01:03:21 pm
Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 25, 2009, 01:03:21 pm
I think that's not a bad idea Mike. That way, the viewers will know which part of demo is. ^^
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 25, 2009, 04:58:48 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 25, 2009, 04:58:48 pm
Since the Light and dark theme was removed,
I think we could carry this for the title screen..
ch1 = brightest
ch2 = bright
ch3 = dark
ch4 = darkest
haha.. and I really want the ch1 title to be "The Lasting Dawn".
well, for me.
what's the title for ch1 LD? So I can test if I can put it nicely..
I think we could carry this for the title screen..
ch1 = brightest
ch2 = bright
ch3 = dark
ch4 = darkest
haha.. and I really want the ch1 title to be "The Lasting Dawn".
well, for me.
what's the title for ch1 LD? So I can test if I can put it nicely..
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Post by: LastingDawn on September 25, 2009, 06:50:59 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on September 25, 2009, 06:50:59 pm
The title for Chapter 1 is... "I Want to Break Free", just in the style of Matsuno (and because they're a great band) we've decided to name the four chapters based off of Queen songs.
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Post by: mav on September 25, 2009, 08:11:41 pm
Post by: mav on September 25, 2009, 08:11:41 pm
YUS. You have my complete support on the Queen references. I mean, hot damn they're one of my favorite bands.
Also, I think different title screens would be good. But keep in mind that our current screen focuses heavily on the logo, and less on the background. Unless you intend to change the logo every chapter (which is completely unnecessary), the title screens may all end up looking the same. Whatever, I'm not the artist here; you guys decide.
Also, I think different title screens would be good. But keep in mind that our current screen focuses heavily on the logo, and less on the background. Unless you intend to change the logo every chapter (which is completely unnecessary), the title screens may all end up looking the same. Whatever, I'm not the artist here; you guys decide.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 25, 2009, 08:31:40 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 25, 2009, 08:31:40 pm
Cool!
Okay. I'll start working!
Okay. I'll start working!
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 26, 2009, 06:33:24 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 26, 2009, 06:33:24 am
That's not a bad idea Mike; Light and Dark theme. Well, changing the logo for every chapter may be a bit troublesome. I mean, 4 logos for 4 chapters, hard unless winshmo don't mind and willing to help =D
I have a suggestion; do you think it would be good like for example, chapter 1, show Ramza, Rad and Gafgarion, chapter 2, add whoever joins in (eg: Lavian - I think), then chapter 3, add more or change their position/armor/hairstyle for Ramza, Rad, Gafgarion and etc, then chapter 4, change again.....(which is equivalent to changing logo for every chapter, hahaha)
Well, troubling though ^^
I have a suggestion; do you think it would be good like for example, chapter 1, show Ramza, Rad and Gafgarion, chapter 2, add whoever joins in (eg: Lavian - I think), then chapter 3, add more or change their position/armor/hairstyle for Ramza, Rad, Gafgarion and etc, then chapter 4, change again.....(which is equivalent to changing logo for every chapter, hahaha)
Well, troubling though ^^
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 27, 2009, 02:56:45 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 27, 2009, 02:56:45 am
Yes, that would take some time jimmy. Not a bad idea, but it is not really advisable to cram new pictures,
so I'll just stick with the official one.
so I'll just stick with the official one.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 27, 2009, 03:08:36 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 27, 2009, 03:08:36 am
Hmm....alright. Then how about changing the positions and views among three of them? Different positions and views for different chapter and the reason for the change of views and positions lies behind the story of each chapter. How's that sound? ^^
I know that's troublesome but if its possible, its worth a shot though ^^
I know that's troublesome but if its possible, its worth a shot though ^^
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 27, 2009, 03:18:47 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 27, 2009, 03:18:47 am
We'll ask winshmo if he can.
He's the one who did the logo after all.
He's the one who did the logo after all.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 27, 2009, 03:19:54 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 27, 2009, 03:19:54 am
Yeah, hope he'll help ^^
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 30, 2009, 07:28:00 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 30, 2009, 07:28:00 am
Ehem. Sorry for the inactivity.
Here's some development:
Here's some development:
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Post by: Sephirot24 on September 30, 2009, 02:47:27 pm
Post by: Sephirot24 on September 30, 2009, 02:47:27 pm
The title screen is looking good Mike ^^
The chapter title not so much. It doesn't look bad, but the letters could be a little wider, as of now they look somehow striped with gray shades. IDK how to explain it accurately..
The chapter title not so much. It doesn't look bad, but the letters could be a little wider, as of now they look somehow striped with gray shades. IDK how to explain it accurately..
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Post by: Kagebunji on September 30, 2009, 03:35:50 pm
Post by: Kagebunji on September 30, 2009, 03:35:50 pm
So you mean LD that Merc. will be released by chapters? I kinda don't like this idea, I will have to wait unkown amount of time to next release.
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Post by: LastingDawn on September 30, 2009, 03:36:42 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on September 30, 2009, 03:36:42 pm
Indeed you will... this allows me to do A Lot more with the space required, and it is neccessary to accomplish some of my more loftier goals.
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Post by: Kagebunji on September 30, 2009, 04:04:48 pm
Post by: Kagebunji on September 30, 2009, 04:04:48 pm
Well if that is the case then I don't have objections, I will just wait untill all four are released and then I will play.
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Post by: mav on September 30, 2009, 04:35:19 pm
Post by: mav on September 30, 2009, 04:35:19 pm
Ahem, it's "I Want to Break Free". Fix the font there. Is that the same font used in Vanilla? I know we have that laying around somewhere...
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 30, 2009, 05:43:11 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 30, 2009, 05:43:11 pm
YEAH MAAAAV!
When the phone lines were busy and I can't connect, I was thinking of the chapter title.
Hmm.. First, I thought the title was "I want to Break Free", but then later changed
my mind into "I want to be free".
Well, Sorry for that. My memory got messed up.
When the phone lines were busy and I can't connect, I was thinking of the chapter title.
Hmm.. First, I thought the title was "I want to Break Free", but then later changed
my mind into "I want to be free".
Well, Sorry for that. My memory got messed up.
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Post by: mav on September 30, 2009, 06:49:13 pm
Post by: mav on September 30, 2009, 06:49:13 pm
No excuses, fuck dammit.
In all seriousness though, it's no big deal. I just like to be an ass every once in a while. :>
In all seriousness though, it's no big deal. I just like to be an ass every once in a while. :>
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 01, 2009, 02:16:39 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 01, 2009, 02:16:39 am
That's looking very nice Mike.
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Post by: Asmo X on October 02, 2009, 01:24:13 am
Post by: Asmo X on October 02, 2009, 01:24:13 am
Hey Winshmo, how would you feel about having a crack at another title screen (for a later chapter) that looks like this:
(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/6/60/Face_Off_Poster.jpg/300px-Face_Off_Poster.jpg)
Except with Rad and Ramza. Thanks broheim.
(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/6/60/Face_Off_Poster.jpg/300px-Face_Off_Poster.jpg)
Except with Rad and Ramza. Thanks broheim.
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Post by: Luminar on October 02, 2009, 02:02:06 am
Post by: Luminar on October 02, 2009, 02:02:06 am
*gulp* rad and ramza, i hope they dont become enemies, i was thinking of gaf and pieke for some reason, lol.
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Post by: LastingDawn on October 02, 2009, 02:06:39 am
Post by: LastingDawn on October 02, 2009, 02:06:39 am
Well it's not that Luminar, they're two very different characters, ths doesn't exactly Mean they're going to be "enemies" it just expresses their personalties.
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Post by: Luminar on October 02, 2009, 02:15:59 am
Post by: Luminar on October 02, 2009, 02:15:59 am
Quote from: "LastingDawn"Well it's not that Luminar, they're two very different characters, ths doesn't exactly Mean they're going to be "enemies" it just expresses their personalties.
ahh okay, i hated algus, but i always thought rad was cool, dont want that betrayal lol, it's still a great idea on asmo's part.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 02, 2009, 03:22:33 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 02, 2009, 03:22:33 am
Maybe give that for Gafgarion and Agrias for the Light\Dark theme.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 02, 2009, 03:33:11 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 02, 2009, 03:33:11 am
Very nice idea there Asmo. I was thinking the same thing to, Luminar. Since Gafgarion and Rondel have issues, I think it would fit nicely; well, if that particular chapter is about Gafgarion and Rondel, of course. Otherwise, Rad and Ramza would be good ^^
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Post by: winshmo on October 02, 2009, 06:31:54 am
Post by: winshmo on October 02, 2009, 06:31:54 am
Yeah thats a good idea for a title screen
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Post by: LastingDawn on October 02, 2009, 12:44:22 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on October 02, 2009, 12:44:22 pm
Also keep in mind, this is for Other Chapters, we've already decided that the first chapter will be the first one you had made Winshmo.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 02, 2009, 01:41:14 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 02, 2009, 01:41:14 pm
Show some enemies~!
Rondel's not one of the main enemies in Mercs, so I don't think he's a good idea, jimmy.
Unless Rondel would be the main man in that chapter, yes.
..as for Rad and Ramza,
why? If that's the case, where would Gafgarion be??
He'll lose some character significance. In the latest title screen, Rad was in the middle, which
definitely gives him more significance.
This will work well for the last chapter, bec. of their respective unique classes (Red Mage and Hessian).
I think Gaf and Agrias would be a better combination, bec. Agrias would be an enemy and
it will depict the Dark and Light theme that was lost.
Hmm.. nice idea there Asmo!
Rondel's not one of the main enemies in Mercs, so I don't think he's a good idea, jimmy.
Unless Rondel would be the main man in that chapter, yes.
..as for Rad and Ramza,
why? If that's the case, where would Gafgarion be??
He'll lose some character significance. In the latest title screen, Rad was in the middle, which
definitely gives him more significance.
This will work well for the last chapter, bec. of their respective unique classes (Red Mage and Hessian).
I think Gaf and Agrias would be a better combination, bec. Agrias would be an enemy and
it will depict the Dark and Light theme that was lost.
Hmm.. nice idea there Asmo!
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Post by: Sephirot24 on October 02, 2009, 03:23:57 pm
Post by: Sephirot24 on October 02, 2009, 03:23:57 pm
I agree with Mike's last post. It'd fit better IMO.
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Post by: LastingDawn on October 02, 2009, 03:36:41 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on October 02, 2009, 03:36:41 pm
Hmm, I guess maybe Gafgarion/Agrias would make more sense... sure let's go with that.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 03, 2009, 12:32:37 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 03, 2009, 12:32:37 am
That's why I said this, Mike:
Quote from: "jimmyjw88"Since Gafgarion and Rondel have issues, I think it would fit nicely; well, if that particular chapter is about Gafgarion and Rondel, of course. Otherwise...Haha. Anyway, let's see Gafgarion and Agrias ^^
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 03, 2009, 12:40:16 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 03, 2009, 12:40:16 am
Oh wait! We already have a title screen picture for Gaffy and Agrias~!
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Post by: LastingDawn on October 03, 2009, 12:47:42 am
Post by: LastingDawn on October 03, 2009, 12:47:42 am
Yes, but not in the aforementioned style, I am curious to see what Winshmo can cook up with it.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 03, 2009, 05:04:53 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 03, 2009, 05:04:53 am
Yeah, me too. The previous Gafgarion and Agrias title screen looks great but I would like to see Asmo's idea of Gafgarion and Agrias title screen.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 03, 2009, 09:09:14 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 03, 2009, 09:09:14 am
Quote from: "mav"Is that the same font used in Vanilla? I know we have that laying around somewhere...
Can you tell me more about it?
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Post by: winshmo on October 03, 2009, 09:32:22 am
Post by: winshmo on October 03, 2009, 09:32:22 am
hoooooo Agrias vs. Gaff huh... I'll start cookin'!
Agrias still has the same look right?
Agrias still has the same look right?
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 03, 2009, 09:40:12 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 03, 2009, 09:40:12 am
Make her look cuter.
hahaha.
hahaha.
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Post by: winshmo on October 03, 2009, 10:15:35 am
Post by: winshmo on October 03, 2009, 10:15:35 am
hahaha mike, here how does she look
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Post by: mav on October 03, 2009, 10:43:02 am
Post by: mav on October 03, 2009, 10:43:02 am
That is epic! Great job man.
Quote from: "MiKeMiTchi"Can you tell me more about it?As far as that font goes, I believe Cheetah used it to update some of the screens for FFT:Complete. Now I'm not 100% sure, but he'd probably know better than I would. In any case, I'll look around for it on the board and give it to you if I find it.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 03, 2009, 11:01:45 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 03, 2009, 11:01:45 am
WOOOOW. That's better than what I expected, winshmo.
Thanks mav!
QuoteIn any case, I'll look around for it on the board and give it to you if I find it.
Thanks mav!
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Post by: Asmo X on October 03, 2009, 01:03:22 pm
Post by: Asmo X on October 03, 2009, 01:03:22 pm
That's fucking ballin'
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Post by: Cheetah on October 03, 2009, 01:09:12 pm
Post by: Cheetah on October 03, 2009, 01:09:12 pm
Very wicked winshmo. I can't believe you made the concept look so good.
As far as the font for FFT goes, Melonhead managed to find the font used the WOTL. I don't know about the original font. But the WOTL one is called "Codex LT"
As far as the font for FFT goes, Melonhead managed to find the font used the WOTL. I don't know about the original font. But the WOTL one is called "Codex LT"
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Post by: LastingDawn on October 03, 2009, 01:27:24 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on October 03, 2009, 01:27:24 pm
Everytime I turn around you continue to impress! Great work Winshmo! You must work... fast, since the idea was only proposed last night, haha!
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Post by: beawulfx on October 03, 2009, 01:35:31 pm
Post by: beawulfx on October 03, 2009, 01:35:31 pm
Holy hell Mercs is going to have beautiful artwork if nothing else. I love that, that's fantastic.
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Post by: Sephirot24 on October 03, 2009, 01:35:38 pm
Post by: Sephirot24 on October 03, 2009, 01:35:38 pm
Great concept Win! It'll look great when finished and shaped to the looks of the current title screen
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 03, 2009, 07:37:00 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 03, 2009, 07:37:00 pm
QuoteIt'll look great when finished and shaped to the looks of the current title screen
We'll see about that.
@Sir Cheetah
I see. Thanks for the info!
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Post by: Fein on October 03, 2009, 07:40:02 pm
Post by: Fein on October 03, 2009, 07:40:02 pm
I really like the new concept. I always thought that the two-face thing was pretty cool.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 03, 2009, 11:01:34 pm
Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 03, 2009, 11:01:34 pm
HOLY SHIT!!!! That's TOTALLY WICKED!!!!
OH MY GOD, THAT"S FUCKING AWESOME!!!
AMAZING!!! I can't believe you made the concept looks so epic and amazing. I can't wait to see this as the title screen!!
OH MY GOD, THAT"S FUCKING AWESOME!!!
AMAZING!!! I can't believe you made the concept looks so epic and amazing. I can't wait to see this as the title screen!!
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Post by: Archael on October 04, 2009, 12:11:42 pm
Post by: Archael on October 04, 2009, 12:11:42 pm
much better than the faceoff poster
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on October 04, 2009, 12:27:47 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on October 04, 2009, 12:27:47 pm
Holy Shit
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Post by: winshmo on October 05, 2009, 09:44:26 am
Post by: winshmo on October 05, 2009, 09:44:26 am
new logo concept, calligraphy ink study..
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 05, 2009, 10:14:20 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 05, 2009, 10:14:20 am
Superb. Let's see what I can do with those.. Hmm..
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 05, 2009, 11:20:00 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 05, 2009, 11:20:00 am
My first try..
Note that I rushed this, bec. I got excited..
Note that I rushed this, bec. I got excited..
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Post by: Sephirot24 on October 05, 2009, 11:34:03 am
Post by: Sephirot24 on October 05, 2009, 11:34:03 am
Woah!!! That's great Win!! ^^ Looks super professional.
Yeah Mike, that looks kinda like your 1st try with the big pic of Ramza, Gaf and Rad by the tree =/
Just give it another go when you have the time.
Yeah Mike, that looks kinda like your 1st try with the big pic of Ramza, Gaf and Rad by the tree =/
Just give it another go when you have the time.
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Post by: winshmo on October 05, 2009, 11:40:12 am
Post by: winshmo on October 05, 2009, 11:40:12 am
its more of a logo design than a bg.. nice try though mike
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Post by: beawulfx on October 05, 2009, 11:41:24 am
Post by: beawulfx on October 05, 2009, 11:41:24 am
That's beautiful winshmo. I like the idea of the ink splash/marking, very official Amano-esque touch
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 05, 2009, 11:50:30 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 05, 2009, 11:50:30 am
Stupid me. Haha. Okay~
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Post by: LastingDawn on October 05, 2009, 02:05:43 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on October 05, 2009, 02:05:43 pm
I agree, this looks fantastic, that stripe down the middle is almost chilling, as it could symbolize blood, in it's own way, once again Great work Winshmo!
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Post by: DarthPaul on October 05, 2009, 02:10:43 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on October 05, 2009, 02:10:43 pm
Excellent, that is a title screen that I would find as a foreshadow of a meaningful game. It gives of a bearing of solitude and devotion. Looks very good.
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Post by: SilvasRuin on October 05, 2009, 02:38:30 pm
Post by: SilvasRuin on October 05, 2009, 02:38:30 pm
All I can say about that image is "epic."
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Post by: mav on October 05, 2009, 04:29:33 pm
Post by: mav on October 05, 2009, 04:29:33 pm
HOLY SHIT.
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Post by: Luminar on October 05, 2009, 11:43:39 pm
Post by: Luminar on October 05, 2009, 11:43:39 pm
*drools* that's sexy winshmo, look how elegant it looks ingame, lol.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 05, 2009, 11:54:02 pm
Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 05, 2009, 11:54:02 pm
Totally Wicked!!! Amazing!!!
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 06, 2009, 12:34:08 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 06, 2009, 12:34:08 am
QuoteTotally Wicked!!!
Best phrase for me to say for that logo~
(incrediblessss)