Lijj's Sprites

[Lijj]

Mari: Well that's a relief! I just think its funny; is that wishful thinking on Kagebunji's part. Hot Spriter chicks rule! Kage's probably a ladies man though! He's smart and only 15(very advanced for that age).

Well back to topic, give me critical info to complete this: I don't know if this looks right. I think it's better than the first:

[Mari]

Well, it seems a lot easier to tell which way he is facing, but if you want to have the hat facing downward like it is, I think you should move it just a bit to the right. (The character's left.)

It seems like it'd be falling off to the left, if it were positioned like that.

Unless he has a lopsided head. xD

[Lijj]

Yeah overdone.   ~going for ultimate creepiness factor   ended up looking topsy-turvy instead.
attempt 3:

[jimmyjw88]

Again, the angle is still awkward. Try make it into FFT angle. Also, to me, the hat seems to have too much of those black, crooked lines.

[mav]

Turn the hat around, so that the brim is pointing up and to our upper-right. Then just add a wee bit of shadow to the eyes and you should be set.

[Lijj]

Here's attempt 4:

Is this a better angle? Good riddance of dark lines that didn't have order; copied from male hat's texture. Maybe change the eyes a little? Trying not to make her look happy; already lost good amount of creepiness factor
I don't know; I'd like to move on!

[Kagebunji]

Don't look at creepiness, you can work on that after the basics are done. Angle is correct, that for sure. But collar shading needs some serious reworking. I cannot tell you how to rework it, since I'm new to portraits as well. I usually "follow the light source" when I'm doing such things. For example look how I colored collar on Lezard(portrait ofcourse). And yes, change the eyes, outlining them like that might end bad. Follow similiar angle of eyes as MBM and FBM has. Great improvements, it is close to being finished, just need few tweaks on port!

[Lijj]

Sweet! I need to eat, then sleep first though. Maybe I'll get to work on my male version after that.
Not done but I'm tired.

[mav]

This portrait is in the right direction. Just consider working on the eyes a bit--further mimic the original Black Mages, if you can. The right collar (our right) looks a little strange--use more of the darkest shade and either extend it up a few pixels (so it'll be hidden under the hat) or lower it a pixel.

New sprite needs more contrast on the clothes, for both the blues and the browns. I also suggest changing the gloves to another color, like yellow or maybe brown. Looks pretty good otherwise.

[jimmyjw88]

What mav said.

[Lijj]

Mav: good advice on what to do with the collar; I'll try bringing it down a bit. I'll just copy the eyes almost exactly though cant be as bright, lacking white in plette.
And as Kage pointed out I'll check out the Lezard BMP and maybe work out the base of the collar too. the green part looks a little crooked too. Damn I was tired last time; fully alert and rested now!

[Lijj]

COMING SOON

An alternative form of BMs for FFT.
Attempt 5 on the portrait. Couldn't get any white for the eyes but I'm content.

[mav]

Very nice--I especially like the casting pose. The portrait looks mounds better now; the only thing you may wanna do is angle the left part of the hat (our right) downwards a bit more, to match the angle of the eyes. It looks great though. Now focus on the sprite.

[Lijj]

I may tilt the hat later. For now I'll work on the males:I will make the gloves brown but that will be later all at once for palette's sake.
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[Kyousukeee]

I really prefer the blue/green over the blue/brown =S

[mav]

For the male, put more contrast on the browns; it doesn't stand out right now and it's taking away from the sprite. And consider angling the hat just a little bit on the forward-diagonal frame.

You could also brighten the greens on the female. It doesn't look bad or anything, it just doesn't stand out enough. Great progress on both sprites.

[Timbo]

You know, it's probably too late to say this, but I prefered the pastels used in the concept image.  It had this japanese theme going on, that seems kind of lost in this sprite.  I do think this is an amazing sprite though, it looks like an Arch-Black Mage.

[SilvasRuin]

It's like a better version of Black Wizards without the moon on the hat or the huge bloomers.

[Timbo]

I like the Bloomers on my Black Mages.

[Kagebunji]

Yes, change brown to green, better contrast and looks good in general. Also, there is another thing you MUST do, add another pixel to the eyes, and a 2nd eye as well, just like female has. Experimenting with eyes will end bad, in 90% they do, remeber your first Terra attempt's face?