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Jon's Sprites

Started by Jon, December 09, 2009, 05:15:18 am

mav

December 28, 2009, 03:59:42 pm #100 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by mav
I was wondering why you didn't just use Bartz's hat directly for the left side view: Bartz is facing that exact direction. I guess it's because the hat appears to be at a bit of an angle, but I still think it's worth stealing...

Oh and I took a look at your palette, and replaced all the blues with the male Chemist's. The yellows, the skin tone, and the pant colors are still what you had them as, but I darkened one of the whites. You're at 17 colors right now (including that red shade that I think is just leftover from the Mediator).



See how there's that extra shade on the back? It generally appears between the second darkest shade and the lightest shade--you need to use that shade on the hat on virtually every pose to blend in the shadows. On the subject of shading, the forward-facing frame (top row, third from the left) needs some work around the collar and the arms. And it looks like you've left the gold trim unfinished on the back pose. Thankfully there's space for it, so make sure to continue it.

Jon

December 28, 2009, 05:47:50 pm #101 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Jon
@Kage- I apolagize, I made a mistake somewhere along the line, I will do as you and Mav say; I will darken the white to more a grayish (this makes a lot of sense for the shadow coming down off of the hat) and I will change the hat (1st pose) by moving it one pixel up. I didn't realize that I did not shift it up 1 pixel already...(I change the colors though to yours, but I could not use the exact file that you posted because by then I had made more poses.)

@Mav- Thank you, I will use this, it looks better with the Chemist's colors (even though I like yours too Kage :)
There ain't no gettin' offa this train we on!

Kagebunji

December 28, 2009, 08:34:15 pm #102 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Kagebunji
I would suggest using Mav's palette change, then you should only lighten up the darkest blue a bit, you see on the second frame in first row the darkest blue clashes with his dark eyebrows, it make it look weird. You can be sure this hat will be stolen and improved by some of us later on(for example on Bikke sprite) ;)
  • Modding version: Other/Unknown

SilvasRuin

December 29, 2009, 03:38:45 am #103 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by SilvasRuin
You've come a long way with cannoneer.  That first attempt is hideous.  The only complaint I have now is that the palette just looks too danged bright to me.  (Which of course is a personal opinion.)  I have an itch to complain about the shading a little too, but I can't actually pick anything out in particular that I think needs fixing for that.  Might just be the bright palette messing with me.

jimmyjw88

December 29, 2009, 05:03:45 am #104 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by jimmyjw88
Keep up the good work.
Kindly upload the images to other image hosting sites. I can't view imageshack. Thanks.

Jon

December 29, 2009, 05:14:57 am #105 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Jon
Right, it is very hard to please everyone, so here is what I did: I changed the second white color to Mav's grayish white. I shifted the hat up 1 pixel in the 1st pose 1st row like Kage did and Mav also did posted above. As of now, I will leave my colors, even though I really like Mav's Chemist color change, I like the Cannoneer's colors a bit darker (which I originally got from Agrias and then Kage changed them to better). The reason I am doing this is because once I am finished (hopefully today) I will post both the .spr and the original spritesheet, so then people can change the colors to whatever they want. After all, it is a custom character...and maybe people want a green or red clothed Cannoneer, so actually colors don't matter too much, so long as they are the right shade. Maybe I will post variations once I finish. Oh, I think it would be cool to get a female version of the Cannoneer too, I can add some long hair and change the coat, dunno...thanks for the suggestions everyone! ;)
There ain't no gettin' offa this train we on!

Kagebunji

December 29, 2009, 07:36:49 am #106 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Kagebunji
Jon I suggest you create 8 palettes, then thic could be used for Mercenaries or CoP, but this is just my sugestion.

Also the female version of Canoner would be sweet, add ponytails fromm Female Geomancer to front, some long hair to the back (agrias, Female Knight, Ovelia, and many others to choose) and cut her coat a bit then add a ribbon(not so sure about this though), and you will be done!
  • Modding version: Other/Unknown

Jon

December 29, 2009, 09:27:05 am #107 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Jon
Final Cannoneer
There ain't no gettin' offa this train we on!

Kagebunji

December 29, 2009, 10:08:51 am #108 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Kagebunji
Nice, you don't mind if I work with this right?

Edit: You used one color for every shirt (grey), I fixed it for you:
  • Modding version: Other/Unknown

Jon

December 29, 2009, 10:45:07 am #109 Last Edit: December 29, 2009, 10:50:37 am by Jon
Here is the sheet if y'all want it in that format:


And no worries, so long as it works in game, I don't care how much you change it :) Thanks!

Edit: Tested Kagebunji's and works fine! Use that one if you want a nice clean version from Kage! (Mine is nice and clean too)

Now I just need a portrait...please Mav if you have time...save the day...I mean gimme gimme please a portrait...thanks...
There ain't no gettin' offa this train we on!

Kagebunji

December 29, 2009, 10:47:45 am #110 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Kagebunji
I just looked at sheet and fixed it, but I can test it in Shishi
  • Modding version: Other/Unknown

jimmyjw88

December 29, 2009, 10:52:09 am #111 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by jimmyjw88
If you don't mind, Jon, may I take a crack on the side view? ^^
Kindly upload the images to other image hosting sites. I can't view imageshack. Thanks.

Jon

December 29, 2009, 10:56:09 am #112 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Jon
Definetly, yes please Jim, by all means, if you want to improve anything, you of course have my permission ;)

By the way, this is a type 2 sprite, just thought I should let everyone know.
There ain't no gettin' offa this train we on!

Kagebunji

December 29, 2009, 11:05:40 am #113 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Kagebunji
Yeah I figured this out, cause his arms were in completely wrong places ;)
  • Modding version: Other/Unknown

jimmyjw88

December 29, 2009, 11:07:57 am #114 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by jimmyjw88
Jon, you still have one colour spare but Kage fixed that right?
Kindly upload the images to other image hosting sites. I can't view imageshack. Thanks.

mav

December 29, 2009, 11:10:37 am #115 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by mav
Great work, Jon. You completed this sprite really quickly. I'll try and start a portrait for you today.

Jon

December 29, 2009, 11:16:51 am #116 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Jon
So, 1st, I am not so sure about 8 different palette variations, I was thinking of doing maybe 2-3 more (because I am lazy and also I don't know how to change portraits that well and I don't have a portrait- Mav help me help me I am drowning! Wait, that doesn't make much sense here...)Anyways, I want to make a female version, Mav could you maybe do a portrait of that too? Actually, I feel like I am putting a lot of pressure on one person here, so whoever has portrait skills, please lend me your help ;)
There ain't no gettin' offa this train we on!

jimmyjw88

December 29, 2009, 11:20:03 am #117 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by jimmyjw88
Jon, you do know that you have two identical blues right?
Kindly upload the images to other image hosting sites. I can't view imageshack. Thanks.

Kagebunji

December 29, 2009, 11:23:45 am #118 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Kagebunji
You don't have to give credits to me, all I did were some minor details, if we all were to credit for such things, Asmo should be credited in almost every sprite ;)
  • Modding version: Other/Unknown

jimmyjw88

December 29, 2009, 12:07:05 pm #119 Last Edit: December 29, 2009, 12:34:17 pm by jimmyjw88
Alright Jon, I changed the blues and black a little bit. Here it is. Hope this help ^^
Kindly upload the images to other image hosting sites. I can't view imageshack. Thanks.