☢ ☢ ☢ FFT 1.3 AI Tournament Season 5 ☢ ☢ ☢ [FINISHED] Post-Discussion

[Lijj]

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[formerdeathcorps]

spoiler: Me vs. Pokeytax

I knew when I made my team that I would face three primary challenges.

1) Charm
2) Don't Act
3) Evasion + Baiting
4) 2x damage from Wind (but only from Birds and Kamaitachi due a bug in Razele's code)

...and by "the luck of the draw" as Barren puts it, I'm up against the ONLY bird team in the game, which also uses charm.  Thus, my loss isn't too surprising (Samurai 1HKO = 4v3 in both of the matches I lost).

Anyhow, good match, pokeytax.  Let's see if Lijj does better than I do.

Commentators are supposed to provide insight and analysis to a competition. I don't need you to tell me 'SillyName' threw a Papyrus Plate. There are times when that would be useful, but you don't need to kill yourself reciting every little thing that happens.

I agree.  Thus, what I intend to do in my commentary coming up is to do a pre-battle analysis and see how well it matches up to the actual match.  However, I feel this would be more fun if it weren't just my opinions.  So, as the loser's bracket forms, I will ask you all for predictions of the matches I'm covering, as well as a reasoned analysis of why.  Try to be as through (down to the level of detail concerning compats, max damage output, status effects, movement, who will win each map...rather than the overall rounds) as possible.  I will then test all our analyses against the hosted battle.


My bracket so far:

Fattyzilla vs. Kokojo
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[CupOfOrangeJuice]

My team is gonna win cause it is awesome

[formerdeathcorps]

My team is gonna win cause it is awesome

Care to state more clearly what advantages you feel your team has over Kokojo's?

[CupOfOrangeJuice]

LoL i havent even looked at the teams

[CupOfOrangeJuice]

Okay I will be a little bit serious right now. I think his team does not have enough damage output so they can not bring down my high hp units like my knights and one will also trigger speed save more because he will still be alive. Another advantage for me is that my ninja can almost 1 shot every guy on there team except the knight (but it will be close to 1 shot). 3rdly my team has more speed (i think). And lastly he does not have any status spells except maybe elemental so he will have to kill me the old fashion way.

[Mando]

You never know fat..... but your team has a wizard which if it has ICE, that will bomb pay!


on the down side... oil could cause you trouble if he can use it effectively :/


I think you will win though.

[pokeytax]

spoiler: Me vs. Pokeytax

I knew when I made my team that I would face three primary challenges.

1) Charm
2) Don't Act
3) Evasion + Baiting
4) 2x damage from Wind (but only from Birds and Kamaitachi due a bug in Razele's code)

...and by "the luck of the draw" as Barren puts it, I'm up against the ONLY bird team in the game, which also uses charm.  Thus, my loss isn't too surprising (Samurai 1HKO = 4v3 in both of the matches I lost).

Anyhow, good match, pokeytax.  Let's see if Lijj does better than I do.

spoiler: fdc vs. me

Yeah, I was not expecting to win at all because you have a top-tier balanced team, but the double wind damage bypassing Damage Split entirely was huge and Charm erased everything else. It was very lucky for me but a great match.

Was hoping for a warmup round, but no, instead I draw fdc/Lijj/Mando. Hopefully I did not luck out this time, just to get dropped when your squad might have stood a chance! I expect you'll be rolling through the loser's bracket without much trouble.

[Kokojo]

I knew I should only have given fire spells to my wizard. This would have changed everything.

[UniqueTownPortal]

I just notice that in list of teams in st4rw4k3r team ninja has Murasama not Muramasa as equip, and format in Pride team is not in name/sex/zodiac order. This little things cause more work when one want to copy teams in spreadsheet Just telling if this is not important ignore it

[CupOfOrangeJuice]

Thanks mando and my wizard does have ice but not ice/2/3/4. He has mostly fire spells like fire1/2/3/4. So that will be a bit of a disadvantage                                                                                                                                                                    -Sir Wrong Death of Ivalice

[CupOfOrangeJuice]

Oh yeah good luck domieV you will need against mando >=D

[Barren]

When I upload match 25 (which should be less than 20 minutes from now), someone post on this page for me. I will be going to a graduation party and i will upload more later on tonight

[formerdeathcorps]

My analysis of fattyzilla vs. Kokojo

spoiler: Kokojo

Kokoannoying
Unit Type: Offense/Stall
Mobility = 3/3/8
Damage Multipliers = 1.25x on Gunthar, 0.5x on Lenny, 1x on Carl, 0.67x on Ribbentrop
Counter Flood = 70%
Geomancy = 117 neutral compat (AI Preference 2)
Sword = 196 neutral compat (AI Preference 3)
Speed Ruin = 74% chance (AI Preference 1.5)
Other Ruins = 79% chance
Average P-EV = 9.75%
Average M-EV = 37.5%
Double Regen = 92 per turn

Kokopoke
Unit Type: Offense/Support/Stall
Mobility = 3/T/9
Damage Multipliers = 1.25x on Lenny and Carl, 0.5x on Gunthar, 0.67x on Ribbentrop
Concentrate = Yes
Gastrafitis = 144 damage / 3-4 Range (AI Preference 3)
Time Strike = 192 damage / 3-4 Range / 4 CTR (AI Preference 2 unless target moves)
Stunning Strike = 64%
Cursed Strike = 79% (AI Preference 1.5)
Average P-EV = 47.4825%
Average M-EV = 21.375%
Absorb Fire = Yes
Halve Lightning = Yes
Damage Split = 70%
Healing = 150 HP/50 MP/Cancel: BadStatus except DA, Sleep, DM, and Stop/1 Range

FireKoko
Unit Type: Offense/Support/Stall
Mobility: 3/F/9
Rod = 16 Damage (Used only when 0 MP)
Fire 3 / 5 Casts / 3 CTR
vs. Kokopoke = Heal 229 / 78.625% accuracy
vs. FireKoko = Heal 205 / 100% accuracy
vs. Expojo = Heal 174 / 100% accuracy
vs. Ribbentrop = Damage 236 / 89% accuracy
vs. Gunthar = Heal 178 / 92.5% accuracy
vs. Carl = Damage 145 / 85% accuracy
vs. Lenny = Heal 208 / 100% accuracy
Fire 4 / 2 Casts / 3 CTR (AI Preference 1 if at target takes damage from fire...preference rises above ice if player units in area will be healed or 2x damage from oil.)
above layout * 4/3
Ice 3 / 5 Casts / 3 CTR
vs. Ribbentrop = Damage 236 / 89% accuracy
vs. Gunthar = Damage 89 / 92.5% accuracy
vs. Carl = Damage 145 / 85% accuracy
vs. Lenny = Damage 208 / 100% accuracy
Ice 4 / 2 Casts / 3 CTR (AI Preference 1 if target absorbs fire.)
above layout * 4/3
Cure 2 / 12 Casts / 2 CTR (AI Preference 1 if unit is weak and MP is insufficient)
vs. Kokoannoying = Healing 148
vs. Kokopoke = Healing 190
vs. Firekoko = Healing 171
vs. Explokojo = Healing 145
Cure 3 / 7 Casts / 3 CTR (AI Preference 1 if unit is weak)
Multiply above by 3/2.
Raise / 12 Casts / 2 CTR (AI Preference 1 if unit is down, MP is low or Raise2 would get midcharged.)
vs. Kokoannoying = 100%
vs. Kokopoke = 100%
vs. Explokojo = 100%
Raise2 / 6 Casts / 3 CTR (AI Preference 1 if unit is down and cannot be midcharged.)
vs. Kokoannoying = 86%
vs. Kokopoke = 100%
Explokojo = 85%
Average P-EV = 1.25%
Average M-EV = 0%
HP Restore = 50% when HP < 56
Null: Stop
Absorb: Fire

Explokojo
Unit Type: Offense/Support
Mobility: 3/3F/9
Critical Quick = 50% if HP < 76
Damage Multipliers = 1.25x on Lenny and Ribbentrop, 1x on Gunthar and Carl
Healing Multipliers = 1.25x on Firekoko and Kokopoke
Flame Attack = 108 Fire Damage (AI Preference 2 if used offensively; AI Preference 1.5 if used to heal)
Douse = 97% (AI Preference 1)
Self-Destruct (AI Preference 1 if enemy [some say 2+ enemies] can be KO'd...else, AI Preference 2)
Average P-EV = 3%
Average M-EV = 0%
Null Earth
Absorb Fire
Weak Wind (but only cockatrice and geomancer)

Strengths:
Well-built compats + Healing
Team stays together
Oil + Fire Synergy
All units have decent range.

Problems:
Low Move.
Lowest HP unit deals the most damage.
Explosive AI is retarded.
Wizard does not have flare, bolt3/4, or esuna.
Fire4 heals the archer more than Cure3 (and thus will be preferred) but can be evaded.  Same goes with the bomb's flame attack to the archer.
Gunthar can literally wall this entire squad once Kokoannoying is killed.  A similar case is true for Ribbentrop if FireKoko is killed.

spoiler: fattyzilla

Ribbentrop
Unit Type: Offense/Support/Stalling
Mobility = 5/3/10
Damage Multipliers = 1.25x Firekoko and Explokojo, 1x everyone else
Sword = 182
Cure 3 / 2 Uses / 5 CTR
vs. Gunthar = Healing 46
vs. Carl = Healing 78
vs. Lenny = Healing 136
Raise / 4 Uses / 3 CTR
vs. Gunthar = 51%
vs. Carl = 85%
vs. Lenny = 100%
Esuna / 2 Uses / 3 CTR
vs. Gunthar = 49%
vs. Carl = 83%
vs. Lenny = 100%
Ruins = 78%
Average P-EV = 31.5%
Average M-EV = 11.25%
Damage Split = 65%

[Squidgy]

Battle 25 zxpr0jk vs AeroGP

[Wiz]

spoiler: Match 21 natureguy vs Lijj

Lots of DPS on Lijj's team and not enough sandbag power to counter the sheer damage from NatureGuy

spoiler: Match 22 formerdeathcorps vs Pokeytax

Please Eat + Charm + Hamedo from Bird + Sexy Ninja surprised us all!

spoiler: Match 23 fattyzila vs DomieV

Lots of Sandbagging, damn :o

spoiler: Match 24 Kokojo vs Mando

Ouch, no fire1/2/3/4 after getting doused in oil clinched it for Mando

spoiler: Match 25 zxpr0jk vs AeroGP

Thief with innate concentrate + breaks = creative, but not good enough to last Aero's onslaught.

[Barren]

Thanks squidgy

matches 26-28 are coming up soon

[Barren]

Battle 26 LightningHax vs Dol

Battel 27 Nharayana vs Tonberry

Battle 28 Kagebunji vs Kaz

[jansported]

spoiler: me v.s. shade

I wanted to give a GG to Shade. I got worried in the second match when your squire, which seemingly had no offense, proc'd the GG-decap. )

[Ryason55]

A little late, but...

spoiler: Me vs Angelus

I completely blame this on the fact that Juliette's name was mispelled again. :P

But anyways, geez, I thought that Time Mage was going to be the main issue with her Raise spells. The RNG worked completely in your favor this match. I may've had a chance if that Petrify proc didn't go off... or if Aurora didn't ignore Juliette after she got petrified (again, blaming the mis-naming :P).
So yeah, good game Angelus. May the RNG murder everyone in your way. :)


Hmmm, vs CT5Holy huh... Oh shit, my Counter Magic and his earth spells will NOT end well for me. Well, this was fun while it lasted. :P