New spells...

[Lydyn]

Stigma Magic didn't work?   *Is confused*

[Zozma]

i donno if he tried it cause that one is scripted to hit multiple targets

by the way, got any ideas for Graviga and Gravija?
i used demi1 and 2 for Gravity and Gravira of course.....

i was thinking the effect from Ulmaguest for Gravija....

[Lydyn]

I forget what Ulmaguest looks like so the only thing that really comes to mind is either Despair 2 or Blind 2.

[Zozma]

ulmaguest looks awesome, i think its wasted being limited to only the ultima demons. plus i dont like the fomula, its just like another version of "shock!" or "blade beam"

"death sentence" the kind that the evil eye things use would be great for graviga, but its gfx dont display hitting multiple targets

[Lydyn]

Wouldn't be too much trouble to give us a screenshot - or me - would it? Also I believe the Monster Skill on Dark Behemoths (sp?) have Ulmaguest as well ... I remember, 'cause I gave them that normally.

[Archael]

All of the Ultima Demon's spells look awesome.

So does Altima I's Ultima II and Altima II's All-Ultima.

Blind 2 kicks ass too.

all rare spells that never see the light of day

[Lydyn]

I've seen Zalera use Confuse 2 and Flare 2 and I've seen Altima use All-Ultima, Despair 2, and Shock all in the same play through.

[LastingDawn]

Ah, but have you seen Darkness, Return 2, Blind 2? Those hardly if ever get used.

[Lydyn]

I've never seen Darkness ... I've only seen Return 2 because I was looking at effects. Dang it! Now you're making me want to go see all these ones I'm curious about!

On the up side, I'd have a better opinion on what to use for .. uh .. Demi 3 or whatever Zozma's calling it.

[Vanya]

Stigma Magic works well enough, so I'll go ahead and make one that's red.

[Lydyn]

Well, I've come to my conclusion ... Blind 2 or Despair 2. Ulmaguest if you're alright have a gravity spell being rainbow-colored.

[Zozma]

k this is bad quality video but here

http://i140.photobucket.com/player.swf? ... aguest.flv

edit: thats not really rainbow colored it does flash red, green and blue,
however if you get the chance to look at it in game for yourself youll see that its probably the most "gravity-like" of all the effects i could probably find a way to recolor it so it doesnt flash red and green but still.... ive reserved "despair 2" for a lvl4 darkness attack spell and i renamed it "Andromeda" lol....

[Vanya]

OK, I'm using stop breath for the knight's stat break skills. I went in with snespal and changed some and pasted them over some duplicate effects. Everything works great except that the color swaps didn't affect the lines coming out of the center. I haven't been able to locate the right palette data for those pesky lines. Any suggestions or help?

I just had an idea. Do you guys think we should start a tread that lists the palette address for the various effect files? That way we can just look them up when we need to.

[Lydyn]

edit: thats not really rainbow colored it does flash red, green and blue, however if you get the chance to look at it in game for yourself youll see that its probably the most "gravity-like" of all the effects

I'd still have to disagree, sadly. It looks more like a hyped-up version of difference to me, only it does real damage instead of taking the enemies MP and doing the same amount of damage. Blind 2 still looks more gravity-like to me ... not to mention the 'balls' are all spiky like and do the same 'in-and-out' motion of difference ... I would imagine gravity spells are more just like Demi & Demi 2 appear to be, black holes imploding into the target.

Vanya: No clue, sorry. I just work with what I have. Not sure why you changed the break skills effects though.

[Zozma]

speaking of not being able to find the right color palette data. i had the same problem with the "Destroy Sword" skills, i could recolor the rays that shine off of it, but the circles retained the same color :/

[Vanya]

I'm beginning to think that some of the colors are hard coded or something.

I added effects to Battle Skills/Arts of War because they were pretty boring IMHO.

Oh, and I think I found a good one for my Warriors' Warcry skill. Summon Demon, effect 02B, only ever appears over the caster and has no visible effect on the targets in range. Just how I would imagine the skill to look.
As a consequence, I think I'll replace the original Summon Demon with Summon Angel.

[Lydyn]

Ah, gotcha ... and maybe, or the palettes for that part of the skill is somewhere else? *Shrug* It's really hard to.. hard code graphic effects.

[Vanya]

That's what I'm hoping. I tried editing other spots that looked like the right colors, but they caused the game to freeze when I changed them.

[Zozma]

happened to me too, i tried to recolor Bio 1 to make a water spell and i must have recolored the wrong series of green, cause it just crashes.

btw, you know what, if return2 wasnt so brightly colored (like if we recolored it to something more like the purple that dark holy uses it would definately look like a gravity spell dont you think?

[Vanya]

Yeah, but I'd use a reeaallllyy dark violet.