Title: The Balbanes Sprite Topic (Sprite Completed)
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 26, 2009, 09:05:15 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 26, 2009, 09:05:15 pm
Well,as we know,Balbanes is a history maker on FFT,achieving the rank of Heavenly Knight,and a power that can be compared to Orlandu's power,but dies very early on the game,so he really deserves a sprite
So Im organizing this topic for the creation of a concept sprite and then its development,involving everyone in this work is a way to collect a lot of ideas for the concept
It can be a difficult task,since there arent any reference,but his portrait and the bed evtchr sprites
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/Balbanes.png)
(http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/images/avatars/203382176448d829714d16a.png)
Cheetah's avatar ftw
I have a vague idea for some parts of sprite,like the hair,which resembles Helmetless Gafgarion hair
Edit:I will update the first page with all drawings and concepts posted,so whoever read the topic will be able to see everything without searching among the posts
There are more spoilers inside the spoiler
So Im organizing this topic for the creation of a concept sprite and then its development,involving everyone in this work is a way to collect a lot of ideas for the concept
It can be a difficult task,since there arent any reference,but his portrait and the bed evtchr sprites
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/Balbanes.png)
(http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/images/avatars/203382176448d829714d16a.png)
Cheetah's avatar ftw
I have a vague idea for some parts of sprite,like the hair,which resembles Helmetless Gafgarion hair
Edit:I will update the first page with all drawings and concepts posted,so whoever read the topic will be able to see everything without searching among the posts
My Concepts
MiKeMiTchi's Concepts
Cold52 Concepts
Young Balbanes Portrait by ???
RolyTunedIn Drawing
A Drawing Posted By Cheetah
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/Balbanes3.png)
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/BalbanesRobeConcept1.png)
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/Balbanes4.png)
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/BalbanesRobeConcept1.png)
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/Balbanes4.png)
MiKeMiTchi's Concepts
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/SpriteWorks/balbanestry.png)
Cold52 Concepts
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9239/balbanes8.png)
Young Balbanes Portrait by ???
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/BalbanesYoungPortrait.png)
RolyTunedIn Drawing
(http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/files/balbanes_621.bmp)
A Drawing Posted By Cheetah
(http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/files/fftguestposter_112.jpg)
There are more spoilers inside the spoiler
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Post by: ChronosAragami on August 26, 2009, 09:29:46 pm
Post by: ChronosAragami on August 26, 2009, 09:29:46 pm
Sounds interesting.
Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 26, 2009, 09:46:26 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 26, 2009, 09:46:26 pm
Quote from: "Bloodthirster0"Well,as we know,Balbanes is a history maker on FFT,achieving the rank of Heavenly Knight,and a power that can be compared to Orlandu's power,but dies very early on the game,so he really deserves a sprite
So Im organizing this topic for the creation of a concept sprite and then its development,involving everyone in this work is a way to collect a lot of ideas for the concept
It can be a difficult task,since there arent any reference,but his portrait and the bed evtchr sprites
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/Balbanes.png)
(http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/images/avatars/203382176448d829714d16a.png)
Cheetah's avatar ftw
I have a vague idea for some parts of sprite,like the hair,which resembles Helmetless Gafgarion hair
Yes. We definitely in need of a Balbanes sprite.
And Balbanes deserves to have a sprite!
For me, since he's a Beoulve (did I spell it right?), I think his clothes should look like Dycedarg's (without his white garment).
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Post by: Cheetah on August 27, 2009, 01:31:40 am
Post by: Cheetah on August 27, 2009, 01:31:40 am
Obviously I would love a Balbanes sprite. I actually think that Reno's completed suit sprite might be a good base for the body, with the gold color in there somehow. I have had many thoughts on this, but can't remember any of them right now...
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Post by: gojoe on August 27, 2009, 08:05:45 am
Post by: gojoe on August 27, 2009, 08:05:45 am
looking at the shirt reminds me of ramza's shirt maybe use the shirt as a chest base?
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on August 27, 2009, 09:08:50 am
Post by: RolyTunedIn on August 27, 2009, 09:08:50 am
i have an idea of what he might look like... i'll draw it out when i have some time.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 27, 2009, 02:26:13 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 27, 2009, 02:26:13 pm
well,I did a evtchr Balbanes colored Dycedarg(not at home,I will post later) and it looks very strange,since his clothes are brown with some gold details,golden skin and a very light blue colored hair.the clothes and the skin colors are pretty alike.
The portrait shows us a skin colored skin w/ black clothes with golden details and white hair,the portrait clothes looks like Reno's clothes as Cheetah said
Edit: Here is the Balbanes colored Dycedarg
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/BalbanesDycedargZavski.png)
I didnt change the hands,sash and skin color and changed the yellow detail on his shoes for red
The portrait shows us a skin colored skin w/ black clothes with golden details and white hair,the portrait clothes looks like Reno's clothes as Cheetah said
Edit: Here is the Balbanes colored Dycedarg
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/BalbanesDycedargZavski.png)
I didnt change the hands,sash and skin color and changed the yellow detail on his shoes for red
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Post by: Cheetah on August 27, 2009, 07:05:30 pm
Post by: Cheetah on August 27, 2009, 07:05:30 pm
Hmmm. Well it is an interesting test, but I don't think this concept has got what it takes. I definitely envision Balbanes in a long jacket of somekind, not a robe.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 27, 2009, 07:07:10 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 27, 2009, 07:07:10 pm
Looks good in my opinion, but definitely he looks like Dycedarg!
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 27, 2009, 07:10:18 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 27, 2009, 07:10:18 pm
yes,the portrait and the sprite points out that he wears a jacket, black/golden or brown/golden jacket,but I think the color setup for the sprite is too monochromatic,I stand for black clothes
Well,it is Dycedarg,Im just testing color setups
Well,it is Dycedarg,Im just testing color setups
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Post by: Kagebunji on August 27, 2009, 07:14:48 pm
Post by: Kagebunji on August 27, 2009, 07:14:48 pm
Colors are great, but I agree with Cheetah, I think he isn't wearing any robes.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 27, 2009, 07:25:33 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 27, 2009, 07:25:33 pm
Yeah. The upper part of Dycedarg's clothes should stay.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 27, 2009, 07:27:47 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 27, 2009, 07:27:47 pm
well,people seem to like the colors,but I did a Black/Golden setup to fit with the portrait,so we can choose between sprite and portrait colors
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/BalbanesDycedargBlack.png)
ignore the red if you want
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/BalbanesDycedargBlack.png)
ignore the red if you want
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Post by: Kagebunji on August 27, 2009, 07:31:06 pm
Post by: Kagebunji on August 27, 2009, 07:31:06 pm
IMO this one looks better.
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Post by: Zozma on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 pm
Post by: Zozma on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 pm
the brown makes more sense, but the way it was shaded didnt look right
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 27, 2009, 08:11:52 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 27, 2009, 08:11:52 pm
there are lots of tweaks on the sprites,Im just toolazy to locate and fix 'em all
so here is the back sprite,without the head,both color setups
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/BalbanesBack.png)
taken from Seushiro Reno Sprite
so here is the back sprite,without the head,both color setups
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/BalbanesBack.png)
taken from Seushiro Reno Sprite
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Post by: mav on August 27, 2009, 08:51:57 pm
Post by: mav on August 27, 2009, 08:51:57 pm
Balbanes definitely deserves a sprite, though keep in mind that what he was wearing in his deathbed was likely a robe (and the portrait may match that) but he was a knight. For his well to do sprite, shouldn't he look more valiant?
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Post by: Sen on August 27, 2009, 09:01:17 pm
Post by: Sen on August 27, 2009, 09:01:17 pm
Why would he wear a jacket while lying on bed sick?
a robe seems logical
a robe seems logical
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Post by: Zalge on August 27, 2009, 09:04:53 pm
Post by: Zalge on August 27, 2009, 09:04:53 pm
He and Cidolfus were good friends, right? And both Heavenly knights? I'd imagine they would wear similar armor. Balbanes would probably have his head and hair more exposed though.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 27, 2009, 09:05:49 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 27, 2009, 09:05:49 pm
Dycedarg didnt change his clothes when he was attacked by the death corps and the work is based on the references,where the sprite only shows the sprite colors and the portrait his clothes,which resembles a jacket
Well,its fact,but if he will lose his indiduality if he wears the same clothes as Cid
Well,its fact,but if he will lose his indiduality if he wears the same clothes as Cid
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Post by: Zalge on August 27, 2009, 09:17:09 pm
Post by: Zalge on August 27, 2009, 09:17:09 pm
I'm not make him look exactly like Cid, his colors and everything can be different. It just should be similar as they were great friends, of the same rank, and fought together. I mean, the Shrine Knights were all of generally the same rank and all wore different colors and slight variations on their base gold armor. Look at Delita. He made his cloth shorter and it made him stand out from the others.
Basically, I'm saying that Balbanes doesn't have to be a carbon copy of Cid just with a lowered hood, but I think that he should look similar. Maybe borrowing the armor(and changing its color) but removing the gauntlets and changing his cape. He doesn't need to look completely like Cid, but they are similar people in rank, and considering what we actually know about them both, probably in personality.
Basically, I'm saying that Balbanes doesn't have to be a carbon copy of Cid just with a lowered hood, but I think that he should look similar. Maybe borrowing the armor(and changing its color) but removing the gauntlets and changing his cape. He doesn't need to look completely like Cid, but they are similar people in rank, and considering what we actually know about them both, probably in personality.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 27, 2009, 09:28:01 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 27, 2009, 09:28:01 pm
Sounds like a good idea,but idk,I dont like Orlandu armor,it would look great on a Young Balbanes sprite,but the retired one,should look more stylish and less heavy and his portrait doesnt have an armor or at least looks like
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Post by: Zalge on August 27, 2009, 09:29:40 pm
Post by: Zalge on August 27, 2009, 09:29:40 pm
However, take into consideration that his portrait is of him on his deathbed. People generally don't wear their normal armor or clothes when on their deathbed.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 27, 2009, 09:39:34 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 27, 2009, 09:39:34 pm
true,after this sprite I plan to concept the Young Balbanes and the armor idea is great for this,but for his aged sprite,I prefer his deathbed clothes or normal clothes(the ones the he prolly used to wear after retiring)
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Post by: mav on August 27, 2009, 09:39:34 pm
Post by: mav on August 27, 2009, 09:39:34 pm
Quote from: "Sen"Why would he wear a jacket while lying on bed sick?Rereading my post, I realize that I wasn't clear: though Balbanes was wearing a robe in his deathbed (which makes complete sense) it doesn't make sense that he'd continue wearing that robe had he survived and continued to battle on the field. I picture him wearing something similar to Dycedarg from the waist up, but with some kind of leg armor and a cape of some kind...
a robe seems logical
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 27, 2009, 10:00:40 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 27, 2009, 10:00:40 pm
I like that idea,but I discard the cape,Wiegraf/Orlandu legs and Dycedarg's front and Reno's back,I cant do it since I work with paint.
I would love to see such thing
I would love to see such thing
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 27, 2009, 10:38:08 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 27, 2009, 10:38:08 pm
Well, forget the deathbed thing.
We have to make a 'valiant' Balbanes sprite.
I agree.
We have to make a 'valiant' Balbanes sprite.
QuoteI picture him wearing something similar to Dycedarg from the waist up, but with some kind of leg armor and a cape of some kind...
I agree.
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Post by: GeneralStrife on August 27, 2009, 11:20:43 pm
Post by: GeneralStrife on August 27, 2009, 11:20:43 pm
He survived all those battles and what not, he had to have armor....he didn't fight a war in robes or clothes.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 28, 2009, 04:10:33 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 28, 2009, 04:10:33 am
Assume that he's already an old-timer. 
He doesn't really need to wear armor, imo. That will make things harder.
He doesn't really need to wear armor, imo. That will make things harder.
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Post by: boomkick on August 28, 2009, 11:48:22 am
Post by: boomkick on August 28, 2009, 11:48:22 am
No hes a Heavenly Knight, he doesn't need armor to rape everyone.
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on August 28, 2009, 12:05:08 pm
Post by: RolyTunedIn on August 28, 2009, 12:05:08 pm
Quote from: "boomkick"No hes a Heavenly Knight, he doesn't need armor to rape everyone.
uh, yeah he does... you always gotta play it safe and use protection. anyways i sketched him out already "with armor". i'll upload it when i have time...
it's just a quick sketch... yeah he looks weird in a way...
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 28, 2009, 02:08:22 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 28, 2009, 02:08:22 pm
its a pretty good draw,but its pretty difficult to choose the "Balbanes" among many options,Robe,Jacket,Armor,Armor/Robe,Heavenly Knight,I will make a concept for every idea and then choose the best,currently working on the robed one
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Post by: boomkick on August 28, 2009, 02:25:17 pm
Post by: boomkick on August 28, 2009, 02:25:17 pm
Quote from: "RolyTunedIn"Quote from: "boomkick"No hes a Heavenly Knight, he doesn't need armor to rape everyone.
uh, yeah he does... you always gotta play it safe and use protection. anyways i sketched him out already "with armor".
If you have never played a game called Demon's Souls, then you don't know what it means to rape someone without armor (or a sword if your damn skilled).
But anyways that sketch is pretty good. I can see Balbanes wearing such armor, but needs more a flashy tone to it, since of course he is a decorated knight. I understand that it is just a rough sketch, but thats my 2 cents.
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 28, 2009, 02:35:50 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on August 28, 2009, 02:35:50 pm
Actually, as someone pointed out Ramza and Balbanes both look to be wearing a similar outfit, this fits in very well with the theme of Ramza trying to emulate his father in the first chapter, he's the only one of the children that even copies his father's ponytail. I would wager a guess that Balbanes would wear something very similar to Ramza's first chapter clothes.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 28, 2009, 02:48:00 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 28, 2009, 02:48:00 pm
@LD - I didnt think that,but its true,but Ch.1 Ramza Outfit is pretty ugly for me
well,this the very first concept I did for Balbanes,I know that it isnt good and etc
but here it is,both colors
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/BalbanesRobeConcept1.png)
well,this the very first concept I did for Balbanes,I know that it isnt good and etc
but here it is,both colors
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/BalbanesRobeConcept1.png)
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Post by: ChronosAragami on August 28, 2009, 03:30:33 pm
Post by: ChronosAragami on August 28, 2009, 03:30:33 pm
It sounds good!
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Post by: Zalge on August 28, 2009, 05:17:10 pm
Post by: Zalge on August 28, 2009, 05:17:10 pm
I think I'm gunna take a shot at a General and Young Balbanes sprite.
I still don't think that Balbanes would be wearing such a robe. Maybe on his deathbed. But commanding an army? Not really appropriate.
I get that Dycedarg wore close to the same thing, but Ramza was most like Balbanes, and Dycedarg was not. I would imagine Dycedarg's clothing would be the furthest in similarity from Balbanes.
I still don't think that Balbanes would be wearing such a robe. Maybe on his deathbed. But commanding an army? Not really appropriate.
I get that Dycedarg wore close to the same thing, but Ramza was most like Balbanes, and Dycedarg was not. I would imagine Dycedarg's clothing would be the furthest in similarity from Balbanes.
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Post by: mav on August 28, 2009, 06:47:57 pm
Post by: mav on August 28, 2009, 06:47:57 pm
Dycedarg carried the air of aristocracy about himself that I doubt Balbanes would. And as gorgeous as Bloodthirster's sprites look I do think it needs some tweaking. LD's suggestion about him and Ch. 1 Ramza having a similar outfit is downright brilliant. If you can make that look a little less childish, it'd be good.
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Post by: Sen on August 28, 2009, 07:27:33 pm
Post by: Sen on August 28, 2009, 07:27:33 pm
what about close to Zalbag's clothes instead?
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 28, 2009, 07:35:54 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 28, 2009, 07:35:54 pm
I really hate Ch.1 Ramza outfit,it doesnt fits well in battles and it looks like a dress,but I think I can make something nice with it and add pants,Balbanes must have pants,Im currently choosing parts for RolyTunedIn drawing:
Delita 2 Arms
Wiegraf Ch.1 or Orlandu legs
Still deciding the chest plate,maybe Zalbag's
it is going to be Black/Golden without cape
btw,when I was customizing Orlandu legs for Balbanes,it looked very weird without the cape
I also did the armor/robe Balbanes,it sucks a lot,I will post it later
Delita 2 Arms
Wiegraf Ch.1 or Orlandu legs
Still deciding the chest plate,maybe Zalbag's
it is going to be Black/Golden without cape
btw,when I was customizing Orlandu legs for Balbanes,it looked very weird without the cape
I also did the armor/robe Balbanes,it sucks a lot,I will post it later
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Post by: mav on August 28, 2009, 08:38:41 pm
Post by: mav on August 28, 2009, 08:38:41 pm
Quote from: "Sen"what about close to Zalbag's clothes instead?That'd be perfect with what I mentioned earlier, with the cape and all that nonsense. While Ch. 1 Ramza emulated Balbanes pretty well he looked like kinda boyish. Zalbag, on the other hand looked like a fucking badass knight.
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Post by: Zalge on August 28, 2009, 09:21:36 pm
Post by: Zalge on August 28, 2009, 09:21:36 pm
I know its kind of a stupid way of going about it, but I'm trying to make a General Balbanes sprite, right? Well, in doing so, I started removing Orlandeau's hood and cape because I'm going to be using it as a base. Then I got to thinking that I should complete it before starting General Balbanes. But first... I have two examples, but there is a slight difference. Brownie points if you can find it.
Its simply Orlandeau with his hood edited out, his hair filled out and with recolored Delita's shoulder pads and shirt/armor thing from Delita CH 1
Its simply Orlandeau with his hood edited out, his hair filled out and with recolored Delita's shoulder pads and shirt/armor thing from Delita CH 1
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Post by: DarthPaul on August 28, 2009, 09:30:13 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on August 28, 2009, 09:30:13 pm
The difference is the right one is down one pixel.
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Post by: Zalge on August 28, 2009, 09:33:26 pm
Post by: Zalge on August 28, 2009, 09:33:26 pm
Er, no, not that. Its two colors on the sprite in the bottom right of his abs from his direction. There is a slight color difference. I wasn't sure which I liked best. I know it isn't a big difference, but it could make a big difference in the long run.
Also, it would be 4 pixels down since its blown up 400%
Also, it would be 4 pixels down since its blown up 400%
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Post by: mav on August 28, 2009, 09:43:23 pm
Post by: mav on August 28, 2009, 09:43:23 pm
Why not just use Ch. 2 Delita's whole sprite as a base? No hood and everything's set, aside from a head swap and recolor.
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Post by: Zalge on August 28, 2009, 10:14:48 pm
Post by: Zalge on August 28, 2009, 10:14:48 pm
Well, I wanted General Balbanes to have armor very similar to Orlandeau. I'm not sure what I'm going to change once the full Hoodless Orlandeau is complete, maybe add a cape, I dunno. For now Orlandeau is my priority.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 28, 2009, 11:28:36 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 28, 2009, 11:28:36 pm
no capes,Balbanes doesnt wear capes,the sprite is pretty easy to edit and turn it to Balbanes,just change the head and the colors,Purple for Black tones and Red for Golden tones
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on August 28, 2009, 11:33:03 pm
Post by: RolyTunedIn on August 28, 2009, 11:33:03 pm
Quote from: "Bloodthirster0"I really hate Ch.1 Ramza outfit,it doesnt fits well in battles and it looks like a dress,but I think I can make something nice with it and add pants,Balbanes must have pants,Im currently choosing parts for RolyTunedIn drawing:
Delita 2 Arms
Wiegraf Ch.1 or Orlandu legs
Still deciding the chest plate,maybe Zalbag's
it is going to be Black/Golden without cape
btw,when I was customizing Orlandu legs for Balbanes,it looked very weird without the cape
I also did the armor/robe Balbanes,it sucks a lot,I will post it later
kind of funny you mentioned those. i used delita's arm, orlandu's legs and chapter 2 ramza chest plate to draw him.
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Post by: Zalge on August 28, 2009, 11:44:44 pm
Post by: Zalge on August 28, 2009, 11:44:44 pm
Bloodthirster, please stop acting like you OWN Balbanes. Its been made clear his portrait was on his deathbed, and he is therefore not wearing his armor. His colors are not necessarily black and gold and the cape is a matter of the artist's choice. You're really starting to annoy me with turning down the idea for capes on a character who doesn't have a normal sprite or portrait of him in a military uniform. He doesn't even have any released concept art. I don't see where you get off determining what he is and what he isn't.
I'm sorry if I'm being a little harsh, but its just annoying me. I'll make Balbanes my way, you make him yours. I'll take suggestions, just not you stating things outright as though they are fact like, "Balbanes doesn't wear capes." Who the hell said that except you?
I really am sorry, but you can't determine a character's traits on your own when the traits you're determining are ones that effect someone's work and especially when you don't even own the character.
I'm sorry, I keep ranting every time I try to apologize.
Anyway, I'm going to finish the Orlandeau Sprite and use it as a base for my General Balbanes Sprite and maybe use CH 1 Ramza for Young Balbanes's base
I'm sorry if I'm being a little harsh, but its just annoying me. I'll make Balbanes my way, you make him yours. I'll take suggestions, just not you stating things outright as though they are fact like, "Balbanes doesn't wear capes." Who the hell said that except you?
I really am sorry, but you can't determine a character's traits on your own when the traits you're determining are ones that effect someone's work and especially when you don't even own the character.
I'm sorry, I keep ranting every time I try to apologize.
Anyway, I'm going to finish the Orlandeau Sprite and use it as a base for my General Balbanes Sprite and maybe use CH 1 Ramza for Young Balbanes's base
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 29, 2009, 12:14:59 am
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 29, 2009, 12:14:59 am
sorry man,Its just my personal view for Balbanes,like most characters wear capes,having one that dont wear a cape would be nice and after a ton of sprites that I recolored to see a good color setup I just find out that black and gold is very nice combinations and there arent any sprites with that color combinations.
I also though that such thing would happen,since Balbanes is a legend and everyone has a kind of Balbanes in mind,and everyone who suggest something will suggest his Balbanes view,this topic just showed tons of Balbanes ideas,all great ideas,I first tried to follow the portrait and the sprite,but it showed useless at all,since it caused a discussion about how about the sprite shoul look,the deathbed,retired,Knight,Valiant,General,Young lots of variations.
but anyways,sorry for stressing you,I hope this dont happens anymore
I also though that such thing would happen,since Balbanes is a legend and everyone has a kind of Balbanes in mind,and everyone who suggest something will suggest his Balbanes view,this topic just showed tons of Balbanes ideas,all great ideas,I first tried to follow the portrait and the sprite,but it showed useless at all,since it caused a discussion about how about the sprite shoul look,the deathbed,retired,Knight,Valiant,General,Young lots of variations.
but anyways,sorry for stressing you,I hope this dont happens anymore
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on August 29, 2009, 12:30:45 am
Post by: RolyTunedIn on August 29, 2009, 12:30:45 am
my first idea was to draw balbanes with a cape, but i changed my mind... although he would look good with one(kind of makes him sound more powerful). for some reason i'm beginning to think that the one character everyone wanted most is going to be more than they wanted lol... haven't seen the sprite thread this active in a while...
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 29, 2009, 01:06:31 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 29, 2009, 01:06:31 am
QuoteBloodthirster, please stop acting like you OWN Balbanes. Its been made clear his portrait was on his deathbed, and he is therefore not wearing his armor. His colors are not necessarily black and gold and the cape is a matter of the artist's choice. You're really starting to annoy me with turning down the idea for capes on a character who doesn't have a normal sprite or portrait of him in a military uniform. He doesn't even have any released concept art. I don't see where you get off determining what he is and what he isn't.
I'm sorry if I'm being a little harsh, but its just annoying me. I'll make Balbanes my way, you make him yours. I'll take suggestions, just not you stating things outright as though they are fact like, "Balbanes doesn't wear capes." Who the hell said that except you?
I really am sorry, but you can't determine a character's traits on your own when the traits you're determining are ones that effect someone's work and especially when you don't even own the character.
I'm sorry, I keep ranting every time I try to apologize.
Anyway, I'm going to finish the Orlandeau Sprite and use it as a base for my General Balbanes Sprite and maybe use CH 1 Ramza for Young Balbanes's base
Patience.
QuoteI also though that such thing would happen,since Balbanes is a legend and everyone has a kind of Balbanes in mind,and everyone who suggest something will suggest his Balbanes view,this topic just showed tons of Balbanes ideas,all great ideas,I first tried to follow the portrait and the sprite,but it showed useless at all,since it caused a discussion about how about the sprite shoul look,the deathbed,retired,Knight,Valiant,General,Young lots of variations.
but anyways,sorry for stressing you,I hope this dont happens anymore
Nice one.
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I'll give a try with this one. (considering LD's information)
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Post by: Cheetah on August 29, 2009, 03:58:43 am
Post by: Cheetah on August 29, 2009, 03:58:43 am
So far I'm liking Bloodthirster's idea the best so far. Though the goatee needs to be a bit lest pronounced.
Frankly I think the best looking Balbanes sprite would be based off of the design here. Notice him at the top of the hill.
PS: I didn't realize there was drama going on in this thread because I didn't read it. So don't think that I am taking sides.
Frankly I think the best looking Balbanes sprite would be based off of the design here. Notice him at the top of the hill.
PS: I didn't realize there was drama going on in this thread because I didn't read it. So don't think that I am taking sides.
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Post by: Luiakyn on August 29, 2009, 04:16:05 am
Post by: Luiakyn on August 29, 2009, 04:16:05 am
^^ That looks awesome, except for gafgarion's face 
But that does fit Balbanes, amazingly. It's sort of Zalbag/Dycedargish
But that does fit Balbanes, amazingly. It's sort of Zalbag/Dycedargish
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 29, 2009, 06:02:22 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 29, 2009, 06:02:22 am
I love that pic Sir Cheetah!
hehe.. ok, here's my try:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/SpriteWorks/balbanestry.png)
based on Ramza's chapter 1 shirt and boots (Sir LD), delita's arm, dycedarg's garment&belt and Sir Cheetah's pic..
hehe.. ok, here's my try:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/SpriteWorks/balbanestry.png)
based on Ramza's chapter 1 shirt and boots (Sir LD), delita's arm, dycedarg's garment&belt and Sir Cheetah's pic..
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Post by: Sen on August 29, 2009, 06:13:17 am
Post by: Sen on August 29, 2009, 06:13:17 am
Cheeta: That pic is epic!!
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Post by: SilvasRuin on August 29, 2009, 06:14:55 am
Post by: SilvasRuin on August 29, 2009, 06:14:55 am
I definitely like the concept Cheetah posted.
MiKeMiTchi, I don't think the hair, shoulder guards, and belt go well together. I can't tell what the belt is supposed to be made of, and the guards don't look metal since they use the same colors and shading as the hair.
MiKeMiTchi, I don't think the hair, shoulder guards, and belt go well together. I can't tell what the belt is supposed to be made of, and the guards don't look metal since they use the same colors and shading as the hair.
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Post by: Sen on August 29, 2009, 06:16:58 am
Post by: Sen on August 29, 2009, 06:16:58 am
I think that shoulder guards are part of the cape and shouldn't be shoulder guards
MiKeMiTchi:I suggest the white belt should be thinner much like on Zalbag's clothing
MiKeMiTchi:I suggest the white belt should be thinner much like on Zalbag's clothing
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 29, 2009, 06:29:19 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 29, 2009, 06:29:19 am
Okay. Points considered.
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Post by: Kagebunji on August 29, 2009, 09:21:06 am
Post by: Kagebunji on August 29, 2009, 09:21:06 am
Your pic is great Cheetah, but I saw something funny 
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(http://i32.tinypic.com/5u4ocp.jpg)
:(http://i32.tinypic.com/5u4ocp.jpg)
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 29, 2009, 09:31:26 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 29, 2009, 09:31:26 am
If you analyze the picture closer, Cloud was not actually looking at Ovelia'ss....
Still, it was kind of cool.
Still, it was kind of cool.
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Post by: DarthPaul on August 29, 2009, 09:49:05 am
Post by: DarthPaul on August 29, 2009, 09:49:05 am
Funny thought but no cloud is actually slightly behind Ovelia and he is looking more towards the back of the picture and less to the side.
I did get a chuckle however.
I did get a chuckle however.
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Post by: Zalge on August 29, 2009, 12:12:46 pm
Post by: Zalge on August 29, 2009, 12:12:46 pm
So Balbanes does wear a cape... Hmm... Well, he seems to look more like Zalbag than the others in clothing style =D
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Post by: Luiakyn on August 29, 2009, 12:30:21 pm
Post by: Luiakyn on August 29, 2009, 12:30:21 pm
I'm liking it, MiKeMiTchi. Only problem I have has been mentioned: The cape
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Post by: mav on August 29, 2009, 12:49:16 pm
Post by: mav on August 29, 2009, 12:49:16 pm
Good sprite MiKe, though he looks like he's not wearing any pants. If you wanna give him a cape, use a style similar to Zalbag's or Wiegraf's.
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Post by: Cheetah on August 29, 2009, 01:04:59 pm
Post by: Cheetah on August 29, 2009, 01:04:59 pm
I would really recommend using Blansch's cape, it even has the upturned neck part. Zozma is awesome. Though I would recommend removing the hood, to make room for the pony tail and just look cleaner (I always hated the down hoods). The arms are probably fine, but I would recommend changing the body and legs. Maybe take a look at Smash's FE Solder for the chest, and Squire legs. Zozma uses Zalbag for a body base for Blansch, but I think Balbanes could use something a bit more slimming. Obviously I remembered my ideas on a Balbanes sprite.
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Post by: cold52 on August 29, 2009, 02:30:20 pm
Post by: cold52 on August 29, 2009, 02:30:20 pm
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/55/balbanes2.png)
just a really lazy example of what could be done...
just a really lazy example of what could be done...
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Post by: mav on August 29, 2009, 02:33:11 pm
Post by: mav on August 29, 2009, 02:33:11 pm
Very cool, cold52 (hey, a pun). Does anyone else think that Balbanes's hair is a little too bright? When you resize the sprite, it's intense.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 29, 2009, 07:12:00 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 29, 2009, 07:12:00 pm
nice concept cold,very nice
Posting the Robe/Armor Balbanes
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/Balbanes2.png)
and I also found this Young Balbanes portrait lying around the internetz
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/BalbanesYoungPortrait.png)
the hair its brighty cuz its shade isnt gray,it is light blue,the same on the deathbed sprite
Posting the Robe/Armor Balbanes
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/Balbanes2.png)
and I also found this Young Balbanes portrait lying around the internetz
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/BalbanesYoungPortrait.png)
the hair its brighty cuz its shade isnt gray,it is light blue,the same on the deathbed sprite
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Post by: Zalge on August 29, 2009, 07:16:15 pm
Post by: Zalge on August 29, 2009, 07:16:15 pm
Eh, I don't like that they took out his ponytail on that portrait...
I don't think Orlandeau's legs are really appropriate for Balbanes, the way they are positioned make him kinda look like he is bending his knees a bit. Try a different pair, it just looks weird xD.
I don't think Orlandeau's legs are really appropriate for Balbanes, the way they are positioned make him kinda look like he is bending his knees a bit. Try a different pair, it just looks weird xD.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 29, 2009, 07:34:48 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 29, 2009, 07:34:48 pm
Any suggestions?
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Post by: mav on August 29, 2009, 08:04:42 pm
Post by: mav on August 29, 2009, 08:04:42 pm
I'd suggest Zalbag's legs, but without the cape it'd look a little odd...Maybe Ramza's Ch. 1 or 2 legs?
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 29, 2009, 08:26:52 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 29, 2009, 08:26:52 pm
I'd go for Ramza's legs.
Nice cape cold!
Me either..
Yes! Zozma's sprite!
Nice cape cold!
QuoteEh, I don't like that they took out his ponytail on that portrait...
Me either..
QuoteZozma is awesome.
Yes! Zozma's sprite!
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Post by: cold52 on August 29, 2009, 09:02:32 pm
Post by: cold52 on August 29, 2009, 09:02:32 pm
ok so this time not being lazy I decided to mess with it more (like getting rid of the stuff or colors that didnt belong >.>;;;...in the end I think it really is a nice design...also the right one was just out of curiosity because i saw how well it resembled a cloak which I thought was interesting
(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6168/balbanes3.png)
(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6168/balbanes3.png)
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 29, 2009, 09:48:28 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 29, 2009, 09:48:28 pm
The hooded Balbanes is very nice,I loved it,some shadings are weird,but is just a small fix
here is the same sprite with Ramza 3 legs
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/Balbanes3.png)
here is the same sprite with Ramza 3 legs
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/Balbanes3.png)
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Post by: Cheetah on August 30, 2009, 02:55:38 am
Post by: Cheetah on August 30, 2009, 02:55:38 am
I'm liking it Cold. But like others were saying I think the hair is a bit too white, and I would recommend not having the gloves be white.
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Post by: mav on August 30, 2009, 03:36:56 am
Post by: mav on August 30, 2009, 03:36:56 am
I like prefer your hoodless Balbanes, Cold, but he doesn't look all that noble. The hooded one, though he doesn't look like Balbanes, is a damn solid sprite--like an evil Orlandu.
Yours is pretty neat too, Blood. I think you should change out the color on his pants and boots (if you can). Right now there's too much gray/black and it comes off as a little strange. But those legs look pretty decent.
Yours is pretty neat too, Blood. I think you should change out the color on his pants and boots (if you can). Right now there's too much gray/black and it comes off as a little strange. But those legs look pretty decent.
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Post by: cold52 on August 30, 2009, 06:34:48 am
Post by: cold52 on August 30, 2009, 06:34:48 am
hair more greyish and not white gloves...ok so maybe i should just ask...which you guys think is a better color variant out of these...(you dont need to pay attention to the hooded ones...those are just more of out of my own amusement.
(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3008/balbanes7.png)
(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3008/balbanes7.png)
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Post by: Asmo X on August 30, 2009, 06:52:22 am
Post by: Asmo X on August 30, 2009, 06:52:22 am
Top row, first one. That's easily the best concept for this character so far. In everyone else's he looks like he's wearing pyjamas.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on August 30, 2009, 09:17:38 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on August 30, 2009, 09:17:38 am
FINALLY.....BALBANES.....THIS IS GOING TO BE AWESOME ^^
Looking great so far. And yea, I think the hair is bit too white.
I'm really liking this. The concepts so far are great. Can't wait for this ^^
And that post Cheetah posted, AWESOME MAN ^^
Balbanes looking awesome, HEAVEN KNIGHT ^^
Looking great so far. And yea, I think the hair is bit too white.
I'm really liking this. The concepts so far are great. Can't wait for this ^^
And that post Cheetah posted, AWESOME MAN ^^
Balbanes looking awesome, HEAVEN KNIGHT ^^
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Post by: Cheetah on August 30, 2009, 12:42:49 pm
Post by: Cheetah on August 30, 2009, 12:42:49 pm
Yeah the first one looks the best. Keep with it Cold.
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Post by: cold52 on August 30, 2009, 03:50:44 pm
Post by: cold52 on August 30, 2009, 03:50:44 pm
ok first one it is...ok so im having trouble with the head...would someone be willing to make a few head views...it would help so i dont have to keep posting my progress every change i make...since i know that can get annoying...
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(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9239/balbanes8.png)
edit:ill remember to do so from now on...crap i knew i forgot somthing...i forgot to edit the arms...
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(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9239/balbanes8.png)
edit:ill remember to do so from now on...crap i knew i forgot somthing...i forgot to edit the arms...
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Post by: Zalge on August 30, 2009, 03:54:21 pm
Post by: Zalge on August 30, 2009, 03:54:21 pm
Please quadruple the size of your sprite for demonstration purposes, Cold
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Post by: Luiakyn on August 30, 2009, 04:40:13 pm
Post by: Luiakyn on August 30, 2009, 04:40:13 pm
Mustadio and Balk should be great head examples. I said Balk because his hair is also pulled to the back. Looking at the actual sprite... I don't know.
Looking good, so far
Looking good, so far
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Post by: Kagebunji on August 30, 2009, 04:45:37 pm
Post by: Kagebunji on August 30, 2009, 04:45:37 pm
Hair on second one needs a lot of shading. Other than that it's great.
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Post by: Luiakyn on August 30, 2009, 04:47:16 pm
Post by: Luiakyn on August 30, 2009, 04:47:16 pm
Yeah, the second one has the grandma afro going on. I'm looking at the sprites to see which best fits.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 30, 2009, 04:54:06 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 30, 2009, 04:54:06 pm
I took Halmetless Gaffy hair to make his hair,so just keep using him to make the hair
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Post by: mav on August 30, 2009, 05:13:39 pm
Post by: mav on August 30, 2009, 05:13:39 pm
Pretty good, Cold. Though, like everyone already mentioned, work on the hair. Personally though, I'm not partial to the color scheme you got here, but whatever.
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Post by: cold52 on August 30, 2009, 05:34:40 pm
Post by: cold52 on August 30, 2009, 05:34:40 pm
hair problem solved...thanks luia and blood 
QuotePersonally though, I'm not partial to the color scheme you got here, but whatever.I just went with the colors I saw from the pic cheetah posted...
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 30, 2009, 06:23:54 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 30, 2009, 06:23:54 pm
Nice one cold! Just fix some shading on the pants
Although you should avoid this, but 'gradient filling' the pants might be worthy..
Although you should avoid this, but 'gradient filling' the pants might be worthy..
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 30, 2009, 07:54:23 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 30, 2009, 07:54:23 pm
I did the armored concept,I used Smash Cavalier,it was a simple frankensprite with a recolor,I also used Cold's hair shading
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/Balbanes4.png)
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/Balbanes4.png)
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Post by: mav on August 30, 2009, 07:58:51 pm
Post by: mav on August 30, 2009, 07:58:51 pm
I gotta admit, that looks pretty cool; that gold trim is so gorgeous.
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Post by: cold52 on August 30, 2009, 08:17:43 pm
Post by: cold52 on August 30, 2009, 08:17:43 pm
ok so im done for today...he now has the basic 5 views
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9239/balbanes8.png)
im sure theres things to edit upon and stuff...but so far so good
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9239/balbanes8.png)
im sure theres things to edit upon and stuff...but so far so good
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on August 30, 2009, 09:48:06 pm
Post by: jimmyjw88 on August 30, 2009, 09:48:06 pm
Wow....Both are looking great.
Really looking forward to this.
Really looking forward to this.
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Post by: Luiakyn on August 30, 2009, 10:39:32 pm
Post by: Luiakyn on August 30, 2009, 10:39:32 pm
I'm liking the progress.
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on August 30, 2009, 10:54:39 pm
Post by: RolyTunedIn on August 30, 2009, 10:54:39 pm
cold52, your sprite is coming along nicely. one thing has been bothering me though and it's the fact that his ponytail is covered by the hood...
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Post by: Cheetah on August 30, 2009, 11:29:07 pm
Post by: Cheetah on August 30, 2009, 11:29:07 pm
Yeah, like I originally said, eliminating or reducing the size of the hood would do wonders. I would prefer if the cape kept the high collar without being a hood in the back.
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Post by: Asmo X on August 30, 2009, 11:46:59 pm
Post by: Asmo X on August 30, 2009, 11:46:59 pm
Did you make the thighs yourself? Try copy/pasting from another sprite. The shading is a little haphazard
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Post by: Archael on August 30, 2009, 11:50:47 pm
Post by: Archael on August 30, 2009, 11:50:47 pm
this is a great sprite
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9239/balbanes8.png)
great work, and I agree the legs need some work.. the thighs... but besides that I like it
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you know im happy to say I see so many ppl coming in out of nowhere and submitting great work as a community effort
Mercenaries has really made us come together
except you Asmo, you're an asshole
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9239/balbanes8.png)
great work, and I agree the legs need some work.. the thighs... but besides that I like it
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you know im happy to say I see so many ppl coming in out of nowhere and submitting great work as a community effort
Mercenaries has really made us come together
except you Asmo, you're an asshole
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Post by: SilvasRuin on August 31, 2009, 12:11:07 am
Post by: SilvasRuin on August 31, 2009, 12:11:07 am
At least he's an honest asshole. His comments really tend to be helpful when people make the improvements he suggests.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on August 31, 2009, 12:25:10 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on August 31, 2009, 12:25:10 am
Yea. Asmo crits really really really helps alot.
Although Asmo directly CRITS, which is sometimes a pain in the ass BUT that's what makes improvements thoroughly from the progresses updated. When there's critiques, there's improvements and if can't take the critiques, then there won't have any improvements.
And if Asmo didn't crit, I can say that the improvements won't be as much as when Asmo crits. ^^
Although Asmo directly CRITS, which is sometimes a pain in the ass BUT that's what makes improvements thoroughly from the progresses updated. When there's critiques, there's improvements and if can't take the critiques, then there won't have any improvements.
And if Asmo didn't crit, I can say that the improvements won't be as much as when Asmo crits. ^^
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Post by: Luiakyn on August 31, 2009, 12:56:50 am
Post by: Luiakyn on August 31, 2009, 12:56:50 am
Asmo is one of my favorite posters >.> Gets down to the point so that you know what's wrong and where to go. He's also quick to note when you do something right, so he's not trolling.
Same thing Voldemort did with me on the Iron Giant sprite.
Same thing Voldemort did with me on the Iron Giant sprite.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on August 31, 2009, 01:06:01 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on August 31, 2009, 01:06:01 am
Yeah. So.....ASMO....YOU'RE THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Archael on August 31, 2009, 01:46:54 am
Post by: Archael on August 31, 2009, 01:46:54 am
Quote from: "SilvasRuin"At least he's an honest asshole. His comments really tend to be helpful when people make the improvements he suggests.
the asshole comment was a joke
I know Asmo's comments are more helpful than anyone else's, he worked with me very closely when 1.3 first started
It's the people who bitch about his comments instead of making useful comments of their own that I think are the real assholes
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on August 31, 2009, 01:49:33 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on August 31, 2009, 01:49:33 am
Yeah. Right on ^^
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 31, 2009, 03:23:47 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 31, 2009, 03:23:47 am
Hey guys please try to stay with the topic.
I did like Asmo's critisms, too, eventhough he speaks rudely sometimes.
Agreed.
I did like Asmo's critisms, too, eventhough he speaks rudely sometimes.
Quote from: "Asmo X"Did you make the thighs yourself? Try copy/pasting from another sprite. The shading is a little haphazard
Agreed.
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Post by: Asmo X on August 31, 2009, 05:35:38 am
Post by: Asmo X on August 31, 2009, 05:35:38 am
I don't do anything that others can't. You guys have to realise every time you don't say EXACTLY what you think of a sprite or whatever, you're leading the person on in some way. If you've ever not said something because you were worried about feelings or being harsh you are guilty of this. Trust me, the person is going to feel a thousand times better when they make something good and gets lots of praise than if you give lukewarm praise for a thing that doesn't really deserve it. Kage is the perfect example. He was getting partial compliments and incomplete criticism for pretty sub-par sprites that he then lost interest in. He then changes his technique to exactly what he should be doing, makes a good sprite, gets tons of praise and now seems more motivated. If you aren't honest from the start you prevent this from ever happening.
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Post by: cold52 on August 31, 2009, 07:14:31 am
Post by: cold52 on August 31, 2009, 07:14:31 am
I have to agree with asmo here on his statement...as long as its not some 2 bit insult then yes...critisizm harsh or not is still critisizm and often can motivate one to do better.
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Post by: mav on August 31, 2009, 07:31:00 am
Post by: mav on August 31, 2009, 07:31:00 am
Quote from: "cold52"ok so im done for today...he now has the basic 5 viewsFix them legs, son.
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9239/balbanes8.png)
im sure theres things to edit upon and stuff...but so far so good
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Post by: Asmo X on August 31, 2009, 07:39:48 am
Post by: Asmo X on August 31, 2009, 07:39:48 am
For generic thighs, I suggest Algus or Elmdor.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 31, 2009, 08:31:32 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 31, 2009, 08:31:32 pm
Well,I have a small problem,I decided to make the full sprite for the last concept I posted,but it has almost 24 colors and I have no idea on which colors I take out,I need a 16 color pallete for him that dont change his look a lot
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Post by: Asmo X on August 31, 2009, 09:29:26 pm
Post by: Asmo X on August 31, 2009, 09:29:26 pm
I think i chopped it down to 16 bloodthirster but my internet connection is so shitty I cant upload it anywhere, I'll try and PM you
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Post by: Asmo X on August 31, 2009, 09:52:35 pm
Post by: Asmo X on August 31, 2009, 09:52:35 pm
(http://s3.tinypic.com/25803zc_th.jpg)
Fairly sure this is under 16 colours.
Fairly sure this is under 16 colours.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 31, 2009, 10:08:00 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on August 31, 2009, 10:08:00 pm
much thanks Asmo,you rock
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 01, 2009, 07:42:24 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 01, 2009, 07:42:24 pm
new poses
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/Balbanes4NewPoses.png)
sorry for the double post
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/Balbanes4NewPoses.png)
sorry for the double post
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Post by: Zozma on September 01, 2009, 07:51:18 pm
Post by: Zozma on September 01, 2009, 07:51:18 pm
what if he had a cape too. ive yet to see that armor with a cape
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Post by: Luiakyn on September 01, 2009, 07:51:50 pm
Post by: Luiakyn on September 01, 2009, 07:51:50 pm
Both projects are going nicely. I'm waiting to see how Cold did on those legs. Keep it up!.
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Post by: Asmo X on September 01, 2009, 11:49:22 pm
Post by: Asmo X on September 01, 2009, 11:49:22 pm
Bloodthirster thats smash's armour right? You should probably follow his design more closely. The armour on the front view is out of position when compared to the diagonal. You need to shave some of those gold pixels off of either side on the lower part of the armour so its more in line with Smash's. Also, the far side of the lower part of the armour on the diagonal view looks like it dips down or something. I know you're using the same shading as he did on that part but he can get away with using that brown because the pixels above and below are as dark so your eye isn't drawn to it as being part of the armour. There are also a couple of stray pixels above the boots on the thighs that probably shouldn't be there.
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on September 01, 2009, 11:52:28 pm
Post by: RolyTunedIn on September 01, 2009, 11:52:28 pm
i always thought that balbanes ponytail is slightly longer than that...
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 01, 2009, 11:53:45 pm
Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 01, 2009, 11:53:45 pm
Yeah. The armor (by Smash), as always, looking great but like Zozma suggested, with if add a cape in?
White cape, perhaps like that picture Cheetah posted? ^^
Anyway, both are looking great.
White cape, perhaps like that picture Cheetah posted? ^^
Anyway, both are looking great.
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on September 02, 2009, 12:01:30 am
Post by: RolyTunedIn on September 02, 2009, 12:01:30 am
yea i agree it would look pretty darn good with a cape.... i'm also curious as to what zalge has to bring...
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 02, 2009, 12:30:55 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 02, 2009, 12:30:55 am
Yeah. Zalge haven't post any of his General Balbanes and Young Balbanes.
Or is it just one Balbanes which is General and Young Balbanes? Haha...Anyway, let's hope that Zalge will post samples of his Balbanes. ^^
Or is it just one Balbanes which is General and Young Balbanes? Haha...Anyway, let's hope that Zalge will post samples of his Balbanes. ^^
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 03, 2009, 05:38:02 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 03, 2009, 05:38:02 pm
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/Balbanes4Fixd.png)
I tried to follow Asmo's adivices
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/SmashCavalier1.png)
following the sprite design
EDIT:Reduced second img zoom
I tried to follow Asmo's adivices
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/SmashCavalier1.png)
following the sprite design
EDIT:Reduced second img zoom
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Post by: Mental_Gear on September 03, 2009, 05:55:08 pm
Post by: Mental_Gear on September 03, 2009, 05:55:08 pm
second one's zoomed in too far to really be coherent...
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 03, 2009, 06:15:10 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 03, 2009, 06:15:10 pm
Could you try adding blancsh's cape?
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 03, 2009, 06:40:52 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 03, 2009, 06:40:52 pm
aww,I really didnt want a cape for my project and cold is already making a Caped Balbanes,I can do it after finishing the project,bur feel free to do it if you want
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 03, 2009, 07:13:39 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 03, 2009, 07:13:39 pm
Okay. nevermind. :)
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Post by: mav on September 03, 2009, 07:17:13 pm
Post by: mav on September 03, 2009, 07:17:13 pm
Forward-facing head is a pixel too low. And the crotch area looks like it needs more shading...how the hell does Smash get so much detail in with only 16 colors?
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 03, 2009, 07:19:59 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 03, 2009, 07:19:59 pm
I have no idea,but its impressive the way he did it
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 03, 2009, 07:43:28 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 03, 2009, 07:43:28 pm
Quotehow the hell does Smash get so much detail in with only 16 colors?
I think he didn't use the original fft spriting style.
He used his god-spriting power!
wouw! St. Ajora!?
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Post by: Asmo X on September 03, 2009, 09:57:44 pm
Post by: Asmo X on September 03, 2009, 09:57:44 pm
Bloodthirster, look at the bottom half of the armour. follow the gold trim to the left and you'll see 3 pixels shaped like a backwards L. This is giving the impression the armour dips down and it's really standing out. The reason Smash gets away with this shading is that the surrounding pixels are also dark and your eye doesnt take the farthest pixel as part of the armour. Also, the front view of the armour has to be changed again. Now you have 2 stray gold pixels. To be honest, this part is kind of a misstep on smash's part anyway. Its hard to even interpret whats going on here. You see the 2 stray gold pixels? Make them part of the pants rather than the armour. Then, where youve outlined the bottom half of the armour in black, use your dark gold shades instead.
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Post by: Asmo X on September 03, 2009, 10:08:21 pm
Post by: Asmo X on September 03, 2009, 10:08:21 pm
fuck it
(http://i32.tinypic.com/a9xq9c.jpg)
I noticed the armour is actually a bit inconsistent between views. Smash's fault though.
Oh yeah, I had to use browns from the face to fix the bottom part of the armour since there wasnt a gold that was dark enough.
(http://i32.tinypic.com/a9xq9c.jpg)
I noticed the armour is actually a bit inconsistent between views. Smash's fault though.
Oh yeah, I had to use browns from the face to fix the bottom part of the armour since there wasnt a gold that was dark enough.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 03, 2009, 10:19:24 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 03, 2009, 10:19:24 pm
it looks much better now,thanks again Asmo,that part of the armor was an annoyance to "fix" it the first time,he used only two colors to make the front view thing and that fact caused all the annoyance,the L thing was simple detail,I dont know how you did notice that XD
I also noticed something that will cause many problems soon,the cavalier dont have a dead frame,his dead frame is a variation of the critical status
I also noticed something that will cause many problems soon,the cavalier dont have a dead frame,his dead frame is a variation of the critical status
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Post by: mav on September 03, 2009, 10:37:31 pm
Post by: mav on September 03, 2009, 10:37:31 pm
Quote from: "Bloodthirster0"I also noticed something that will cause many problems soon,the cavalier dont have a dead frame,his dead frame is a variation of the critical statusReportedly Smash was working on it...Then again, he hasn't been around as much lately, so I dunno...
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 03, 2009, 11:46:21 pm
Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 03, 2009, 11:46:21 pm
Quote from: "MiKeMiTchi"Quotehow the hell does Smash get so much detail in with only 16 colors?
I think he didn't use the original fft spriting style.
He used his St. Ajora-spriting power!
wouw! St. Ajora!?
Yeah. Smash is amazing ^^
All Hail Smash...
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Quote from: "mav"Quote from: "Bloodthirster0"I also noticed something that will cause many problems soon,the cavalier dont have a dead frame,his dead frame is a variation of the critical statusReportedly Smash was working on it...Then again, he hasn't been around as much lately, so I dunno...
Yeah. Zozma/Cheetah/LD/Voldemort (I think...I forgotten who mention it to Smash and request for change...Anyway...) mentioned this to Smash and Smash will be working on it.
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Post by: SilvasRuin on September 04, 2009, 12:57:58 am
Post by: SilvasRuin on September 04, 2009, 12:57:58 am
He's busy with life at the moment, so who knows how long that will take. I'm sure most of us are rather eager for him to get some time again.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 04, 2009, 01:13:10 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 04, 2009, 01:13:10 am
Yeah. ^^
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 06, 2009, 09:05:12 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 06, 2009, 09:05:12 pm
so I tried the back pose and it really looks like shit and I couldnt do anything about it,the color limit sucks >.>
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/BalbanesBack2.png)
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff285/BloodThirster0/BalbanesBack2.png)
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Post by: mav on September 06, 2009, 09:17:50 pm
Post by: mav on September 06, 2009, 09:17:50 pm
What's going on between the boots? Too much shadow?
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 06, 2009, 09:19:15 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 06, 2009, 09:19:15 pm
yes,I got a color conflict and I didnt have any other color to put there
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Post by: KazeKasano on September 10, 2009, 02:41:37 pm
Post by: KazeKasano on September 10, 2009, 02:41:37 pm
I'm really very impressed with these!
Bloodthirster's is my favorite, but the hooded one was impressive as well!
Bloodthirster's is my favorite, but the hooded one was impressive as well!
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Post by: Asmo X on September 10, 2009, 11:26:02 pm
Post by: Asmo X on September 10, 2009, 11:26:02 pm
I still like Cold52's design the most
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Post by: cold52 on September 12, 2009, 03:36:23 am
Post by: cold52 on September 12, 2009, 03:36:23 am
trying to find free time to do stuff sometimes sucks -_-;;;
( and abit of lazyness dosnt help none >.>;;; )
just tried fixing the pants by changing it for another sprite (thats why the gold ring is still on the boots...if you like them then all is good...if not its an easy edit
(ow yea and also the top is the normal...and the bottem was the one with his ponytail on the outside instead...had to make it more ponytail friendly >.>;;;)
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6713/balbanes9.png)[/img]
( and abit of lazyness dosnt help none >.>;;; )
just tried fixing the pants by changing it for another sprite (thats why the gold ring is still on the boots...if you like them then all is good...if not its an easy edit
(ow yea and also the top is the normal...and the bottem was the one with his ponytail on the outside instead...had to make it more ponytail friendly >.>;;;)
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6713/balbanes9.png)[/img]
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 12, 2009, 03:54:30 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 12, 2009, 03:54:30 am
^ I like it!
Yeah.. we.. must.. stop.. laziness.
Yeah.. we.. must.. stop.. laziness.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 12, 2009, 05:19:31 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 12, 2009, 05:19:31 am
This is looking great. Good job.
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Post by: Asmo X on September 12, 2009, 08:22:30 am
Post by: Asmo X on September 12, 2009, 08:22:30 am
Looks good. Not sure about the way the cape is coming over the shoulders in the front view though. It doesn't look like fabric and it doesn't make much sense for the lightest shade to only be at the bottom.
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on September 12, 2009, 09:17:03 am
Post by: RolyTunedIn on September 12, 2009, 09:17:03 am
i like the one with the ponytail stickng out of the cape.. i think the gold rings looks good on the boots no need to edit. looking good though.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 12, 2009, 11:03:15 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 12, 2009, 11:03:15 am
Yeah. Now that I take a careful look, the cape for the front view is a bit weird. It looks like some hard armor/shoulder pad or something instead of a cape.
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Post by: Sen on September 12, 2009, 12:26:01 pm
Post by: Sen on September 12, 2009, 12:26:01 pm
edit:
its looking good though
its looking good though
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Post by: mav on September 12, 2009, 12:53:49 pm
Post by: mav on September 12, 2009, 12:53:49 pm
I dunno if I like the ponytail coming over the hood...but it doesn't look bad either way. Personally, I love the gold trim on the boots. Makes him look even more classy.
I'm beginning to think that the forward-facing sprite is always the most challenging sprite to do correctly and it tends to be the one that'll look the worst. That being said, I don't see any problems myself, but I suck at shading regardless, so...
I'm beginning to think that the forward-facing sprite is always the most challenging sprite to do correctly and it tends to be the one that'll look the worst. That being said, I don't see any problems myself, but I suck at shading regardless, so...
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Post by: Cheetah on September 12, 2009, 01:16:33 pm
Post by: Cheetah on September 12, 2009, 01:16:33 pm
Looking good. I would definitely recommend changing the hood into a high collar still. It will make him look more unique and will make his pony tail easier to see too.
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Post by: Vanya on September 12, 2009, 07:41:55 pm
Post by: Vanya on September 12, 2009, 07:41:55 pm
Lookin' real good.
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Post by: Zozma on September 12, 2009, 07:47:56 pm
Post by: Zozma on September 12, 2009, 07:47:56 pm
this is looking beautiful! just be sure to submit it here when you are done
http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtop ... sc&start=0 (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=405&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)
http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtop ... sc&start=0 (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=405&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 18, 2009, 03:43:44 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 18, 2009, 03:43:44 pm
after a long time without an update of my design,due another sprites which got priority over Balbanes
all the main poses
all the main poses
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Post by: mav on September 18, 2009, 04:40:59 pm
Post by: mav on September 18, 2009, 04:40:59 pm
Great stuff, man. If you could somehow squeeze in another brown for the boots, it'd look nice--though it probably isn't necessary.
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Post by: Vanya on September 18, 2009, 11:13:01 pm
Post by: Vanya on September 18, 2009, 11:13:01 pm
Excellent! ^_^
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 24, 2009, 10:28:09 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 24, 2009, 10:28:09 pm
big update time,the sheet is basically complete,just missing the death animations and there are a few errors
Uber special thanks to Seushiro and his turbo sheet making skills
Anyways,Im having no time to sprite due school and stuff and I need someone to make the death poses and make the proper corrections,Balbanes is a must exist sprite
Uber special thanks to Seushiro and his turbo sheet making skills
Anyways,Im having no time to sprite due school and stuff and I need someone to make the death poses and make the proper corrections,Balbanes is a must exist sprite
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Post by: Seushiro on September 24, 2009, 10:32:03 pm
Post by: Seushiro on September 24, 2009, 10:32:03 pm
What the!. .. I cut his hand!!!!
*ehem puts it back on*. .. maybe no one will know. . .
*ehem puts it back on*. .. maybe no one will know. . .
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 24, 2009, 11:14:27 pm
Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 24, 2009, 11:14:27 pm
Looking great ^^
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on September 25, 2009, 02:02:32 am
Post by: RolyTunedIn on September 25, 2009, 02:02:32 am
i think that when smash made those death frames, it was intentional... sort of a way of custom death just to be different.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 25, 2009, 04:04:22 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 25, 2009, 04:04:22 am
I think he needs a cape..
Smash's armor lessens Balbanes' originality..
For me, he looks more like an FE character! haha.
..for me at least..
Smash's armor lessens Balbanes' originality..
For me, he looks more like an FE character! haha.
..for me at least..
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 25, 2009, 05:10:53 am
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 25, 2009, 05:10:53 am
Everybody wants him to have a cape,but me,I really didnt want him to have a cape thats why I chose the Cavaliers as base,I never played FE so I cant argue on that,but to make everyone happy cold is doing the cape verion of him,which I love
Yes,smash is great,but he shouldnt change the animations,when I first saw his sprite I took a lot of time to notice that there was a death animation,it looks like critical
Yes,smash is great,but he shouldnt change the animations,when I first saw his sprite I took a lot of time to notice that there was a death animation,it looks like critical
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 25, 2009, 06:20:09 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 25, 2009, 06:20:09 am
Anyway, if you ever finish that concept, I'll give him a cape. haha.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 25, 2009, 01:00:57 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on September 25, 2009, 01:00:57 pm
I wont finishing it by myself atm,Im very very busy irl,Im like giving away my sprite away to someone else complete it,its on 80%,only missing the 4 death frames and needs some corrections
Im also quitting my sprite completion project for a while
If you take it to you Mike,do a capeless and caped version
Im also quitting my sprite completion project for a while
If you take it to you Mike,do a capeless and caped version
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 25, 2009, 04:53:47 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 25, 2009, 04:53:47 pm
Sure, why not.
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Post by: RopeSander on October 17, 2009, 07:39:06 pm
Post by: RopeSander on October 17, 2009, 07:39:06 pm
Anyone ever finish a Balbanes Sprite? Personally I like Cold52's concept. But the other is also good.
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Post by: Seushiro on October 17, 2009, 07:55:30 pm
Post by: Seushiro on October 17, 2009, 07:55:30 pm
unfortunately it is still a race on which of those concepts will be done to have the full balbanes sprite. . . I actually touched work on one of them and I'd say that it is 80% from being complete. . . I like all of them could be used for having chapters with a different Balbanes on each. . .
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Post by: RopeSander on October 28, 2009, 04:16:58 pm
Post by: RopeSander on October 28, 2009, 04:16:58 pm
I did a shoddy job of one. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/roburito/Balbanes.jpg)
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Post by: Aquablack on October 28, 2009, 04:19:35 pm
Post by: Aquablack on October 28, 2009, 04:19:35 pm
The JPEG compression kinda ruined it. Do you have it saved as a BMP or PNG?
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Post by: RopeSander on October 28, 2009, 04:25:58 pm
Post by: RopeSander on October 28, 2009, 04:25:58 pm
BMP
I use Photobucket, that's the issue.
I use Photobucket, that's the issue.
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Post by: Aquablack on October 28, 2009, 04:31:14 pm
Post by: Aquablack on October 28, 2009, 04:31:14 pm
Photobucket changed your sprite to a JPEG, just directly attach it to your post.
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Post by: RopeSander on October 28, 2009, 04:32:00 pm
Post by: RopeSander on October 28, 2009, 04:32:00 pm
:p
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Post by: Aquablack on October 28, 2009, 04:36:07 pm
Post by: Aquablack on October 28, 2009, 04:36:07 pm
Looks pretty good, he just needs a custom portrait so that it matches the armor.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on October 28, 2009, 05:03:22 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on October 28, 2009, 05:03:22 pm
no need for a custom portrait,but the sprite isnt complete yet,he need a real death pose and if you pay attention to the attacking animations you will see that the hair isnt complete
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Post by: Aquablack on October 28, 2009, 07:38:20 pm
Post by: Aquablack on October 28, 2009, 07:38:20 pm
He has the same death pose as Kent and Sain, with his head bent down further than his critical pose.
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Post by: Fein on October 28, 2009, 07:45:18 pm
Post by: Fein on October 28, 2009, 07:45:18 pm
Ponytail needs to be added on most of the front-diag views.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on October 28, 2009, 08:32:58 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on October 28, 2009, 08:32:58 pm
Yeah thats true,I forgot to mention this,but he needs a regular death pose,which must be designed,the actual one doesnt fit the FFT style,I think it also need a change on the small face near the death poses,try Gelwan's face,the actual make him look too much like Mustadio
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 28, 2009, 09:53:17 pm
Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 28, 2009, 09:53:17 pm
Yeah, Smash's death pose is great but just to be consistent, should try change it though ^^
Ain't gonna be easy.
Ain't gonna be easy.
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on October 28, 2009, 11:20:13 pm
Post by: RolyTunedIn on October 28, 2009, 11:20:13 pm
i did this based off of mike's chapter 4 ramza. it's just a simple head swap for now. i think im going to change up the colors a bit. it also needs a little testing...
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 28, 2009, 11:47:47 pm
Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 28, 2009, 11:47:47 pm
That's not bad Roly. Some palettes change and I think it might work out ^^
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Post by: Cheetah on October 28, 2009, 11:55:06 pm
Post by: Cheetah on October 28, 2009, 11:55:06 pm
Yeah colors need some work. I'm still waiting for someone do do a really good cape with a collar instead of a hood, but this is looking pretty damn good.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 29, 2009, 12:22:21 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 29, 2009, 12:22:21 am
Hmm...A unique cape...Collar...Something like Balthier or Female Thief? ^^
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on October 29, 2009, 01:49:53 am
Post by: RolyTunedIn on October 29, 2009, 01:49:53 am
i'll give a try on the pallette changes but, i don't know if i have the skill to add in the collar
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Post by: RopeSander on October 29, 2009, 02:31:39 am
Post by: RopeSander on October 29, 2009, 02:31:39 am
Thats a great design... I always imagined Balbanes as having a lighter pallette like Orlandu meets Delitia. I'm glad I inspired better spriters to take a whack at this :p
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on October 29, 2009, 09:04:08 am
Post by: RolyTunedIn on October 29, 2009, 09:04:08 am
i actually did this like a month ago but was too lazy to upload it...
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on October 29, 2009, 11:04:59 am
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on October 29, 2009, 11:04:59 am
a sprite like this
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6713/balbanes9.png)
thats cold52's attempt,it is awesome,but he quit doing it
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6713/balbanes9.png)
thats cold52's attempt,it is awesome,but he quit doing it
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Post by: RopeSander on October 29, 2009, 12:20:28 pm
Post by: RopeSander on October 29, 2009, 12:20:28 pm
Yeah that one is right on. Balbanes I imagine would be a humble looking badass.
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Post by: mav on October 29, 2009, 02:24:54 pm
Post by: mav on October 29, 2009, 02:24:54 pm
Not bad Roly--work on those colors, as everyone said. And someone should definitely pick up cold's concept and complete it. I kinda wish he had a design on his cape, or that it wasn't brown or something. Anyway, it's solid.
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Post by: RopeSander on October 29, 2009, 03:51:27 pm
Post by: RopeSander on October 29, 2009, 03:51:27 pm
Yeah I agree with Mav, his cape should be a little special.
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Post by: cold52 on October 29, 2009, 04:00:55 pm
Post by: cold52 on October 29, 2009, 04:00:55 pm
Quote from: "mav"And someone should definitely pick up cold's concept and complete it.if anyone wants feel free to do so...until I find a job
(BTW thats going horribly D: )
im probably not gonna do too much spriting.
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Post by: Saigas on October 29, 2009, 04:44:45 pm
Post by: Saigas on October 29, 2009, 04:44:45 pm
I've taken a close look at Cold's sprite. As far as can be determined, it has way too many colors. If anyone decides to complete this sprite, they will need to take that into account and see what they can nix out of the palette without ruining the detail of the sprite too much.
I, myself, have started working on it, but I encourage better spriters to try their hand as well.
I, myself, have started working on it, but I encourage better spriters to try their hand as well.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on October 29, 2009, 04:55:56 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on October 29, 2009, 04:55:56 pm
Yeah I just checked the colors,the problem is that there isnt much color sharing among the parts,only hair,pants and gloves are sharing colors,while skin,boots and cape have different colors and those parts can share colors easily,also remove the second lighter skin of light,its useless
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Post by: Saigas on October 29, 2009, 05:02:21 pm
Post by: Saigas on October 29, 2009, 05:02:21 pm
Here is something done whilst trying to cut down on colors. The golds have been removed, so I'm going to see what I can do to fix that later, but it doesn't look too bad.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on October 29, 2009, 06:13:25 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on October 29, 2009, 06:13:25 pm
dude,you have 3 shades of black that are very alike,an eye exclusive white shade and one of the browns are only used where the lightest gold shade were and you remove the golds? Strange
here work with this pallete,I kept the 3 blacks,removed the eye white and re-added the gold
here work with this pallete,I kept the 3 blacks,removed the eye white and re-added the gold
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Post by: Saigas on October 29, 2009, 06:33:44 pm
Post by: Saigas on October 29, 2009, 06:33:44 pm
Removing the golds was accidental. I went with the first 16 colors I grabbed. ^^;
Yours looks much better. Now I have something to work with. ^_^
Yours looks much better. Now I have something to work with. ^_^
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 29, 2009, 07:01:21 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 29, 2009, 07:01:21 pm
Figure out the base sprites, first.
After that, continue working with it.
If I knew the base sprites, I will gladly finish this.
After that, continue working with it.
If I knew the base sprites, I will gladly finish this.
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Post by: RopeSander on October 29, 2009, 07:02:47 pm
Post by: RopeSander on October 29, 2009, 07:02:47 pm
I'm excited for the Balbanes sprite, make us proud Saigas, also, this is kinda off topic but, has anyone else been having a problem with the forums page load times, mine have been real slow, but everything else I use online is normal.. *shrugs*
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Post by: Aquablack on October 29, 2009, 07:03:08 pm
Post by: Aquablack on October 29, 2009, 07:03:08 pm
It looks like Orlandu's cape and the bard's body.
Edit: oh yes, and I think that's Olan's head, or at least similar to it.
Edit: oh yes, and I think that's Olan's head, or at least similar to it.
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Post by: Jumza on October 29, 2009, 07:05:27 pm
Post by: Jumza on October 29, 2009, 07:05:27 pm
Rope Sander- me too but after i look at 2 or 3 topics it goes back to normal
Saigas- awesome sprite
Saigas- awesome sprite
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 29, 2009, 07:08:20 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 29, 2009, 07:08:20 pm
Actually, It's similar to Blancsh's cape.
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Post by: Aquablack on October 29, 2009, 07:13:53 pm
Post by: Aquablack on October 29, 2009, 07:13:53 pm
yeah, looks to be the similar, if not the same cape on Blancsh.
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on October 29, 2009, 07:16:37 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on October 29, 2009, 07:16:37 pm
Blansch Cape
Balbanes Head (Gelwan Face + Helmetless Gafgarion Hair)
Smash,Kent and Cavalier Boots
Pants and Hands I still didnt find out
Balbanes Head (Gelwan Face + Helmetless Gafgarion Hair)
Smash,Kent and Cavalier Boots
Pants and Hands I still didnt find out
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 29, 2009, 07:29:41 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 29, 2009, 07:29:41 pm
I think we need to base it to Blansch's arms
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 30, 2009, 01:49:30 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 30, 2009, 01:49:30 am
Yes, Blansch. Very nice there guys. ^^
And yes, i would like to see unique cape for Balbane too.
And yes, i would like to see unique cape for Balbane too.
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Post by: Saigas on October 31, 2009, 02:07:21 pm
Post by: Saigas on October 31, 2009, 02:07:21 pm
The only problem with this sprite so far is that its palette's colors still aren't divisible by eight. So, I'm currently editing that, and afterward will get to work making new frames.
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Post by: cold52 on October 31, 2009, 03:06:51 pm
Post by: cold52 on October 31, 2009, 03:06:51 pm
Quote from: "Bloodthirster0"Blansch Cape
Balbanes Head (Gelwan Face + Helmetless Gafgarion Hair)
Smash,Kent and Cavalier Boots
Pants and Hands I still didnt find out
hmm...im pretty sure i used the calvier for his pants also as for the gloves...I think it was abit custom
ow and sorry about the pallette problems...its odd i coulda sworn i got rid of the problem there. >_>;;;
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Post by: Aquablack on November 04, 2009, 07:56:14 pm
Post by: Aquablack on November 04, 2009, 07:56:14 pm
I was messing around in class and made some Balbanes head swap portraits.
I don't think either are that good (especially the neck area), but I figured the since it said post concepts here this would be the best place if any to post them.
I don't think either are that good (especially the neck area), but I figured the since it said post concepts here this would be the best place if any to post them.
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Post by: mav on November 04, 2009, 08:19:11 pm
Post by: mav on November 04, 2009, 08:19:11 pm
I gotta say that the first one looks pretty damn decent, in my opinion. If you clean up the shading on his cheek and chin, it'll be really nice. The second one looks iffy, since his head is facing a slightly strange angle for the armor. Great work, AB.
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Post by: Aquablack on November 04, 2009, 10:30:00 pm
Post by: Aquablack on November 04, 2009, 10:30:00 pm
Alright, I'll try fixing up the first one, but I'm gonna drop the second one... it's kinda bad and I don't think any tweaking I can do will make it look very good.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 04, 2009, 11:44:20 pm
Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 04, 2009, 11:44:20 pm
Yes, first. Nice Aqua.
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Post by: Paheej on November 05, 2009, 03:03:28 pm
Post by: Paheej on November 05, 2009, 03:03:28 pm
I think the second one actually looks better.
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on November 05, 2009, 07:11:12 pm
Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on November 05, 2009, 07:11:12 pm
The angle of his face on the first works with the direction of the armor, but on the second they don't match up.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 05, 2009, 09:42:26 pm
Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 05, 2009, 09:42:26 pm
Yeah, second armor is straight.
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on November 15, 2009, 12:15:37 pm
Post by: RolyTunedIn on November 15, 2009, 12:15:37 pm
here is my attempt at a balbanes portrait...
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Post by: mav on November 15, 2009, 07:16:30 pm
Post by: mav on November 15, 2009, 07:16:30 pm
The darkest shade is way too dark and it kinda looks like his head is squished in there. Try mimicking the neckline on Balbanes's original portrait or the first portrait AB posted.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 16, 2009, 01:08:22 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 16, 2009, 01:08:22 am
Quote from: "mav"The darkest shade is way too dark and it kinda looks like his head is squished in there. Try mimicking the neckline on Balbanes's original portrait or the first portrait AB posted.This.
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Post by: PrOj3cT_cHaOs on November 23, 2009, 06:51:43 pm
Post by: PrOj3cT_cHaOs on November 23, 2009, 06:51:43 pm
very sexy
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Post by: woodenbandman on November 29, 2009, 11:31:05 am
Post by: woodenbandman on November 29, 2009, 11:31:05 am
I'm not lovin' the ponytail. Imo make it longer or make it go into the hood.
Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on December 31, 2009, 04:45:16 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on December 31, 2009, 04:45:16 pm
I finally decided to make my Balbanes project sucessful,so I worked again on my sprite and I got it 95% complete,only missing the death poses that are too complicated to be done by me,since it is the cavalier,a sprite that doesnt have regular death poses.
Here it is
Here it is
Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic
Post by: Jon on January 01, 2010, 07:56:14 am
Post by: Jon on January 01, 2010, 07:56:14 am
Ah, very nice, he sorta dies kneeling though??? Not a bad idea, just will be strange in game. However, since this is Balbanes, maybe he never really dies and just rests? Who cares though, the sprite sheet looks solid, and if you don't mind, may I attempt the last death poses as they are, just fix the hair? This sheet is definetly getting stolen by me
Also: where does the portrait go? I left a box outline where to paste the Cannoneer's portrait (done by Smash, still thankful to him because it is so marvelous), but no idea on the Balbanes sheet, but no worries...
Also: where does the portrait go? I left a box outline where to paste the Cannoneer's portrait (done by Smash, still thankful to him because it is so marvelous), but no idea on the Balbanes sheet, but no worries...
Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic
Post by: jimmyjw88 on January 01, 2010, 11:02:18 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on January 01, 2010, 11:02:18 am
Well, that's actually is because Smash's Cavalier's death pose is kneel and this sprite is using that as the base. Since its Smash's work, they are not easy to change. That's why that is the death pose.
Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic
Post by: Jon on January 01, 2010, 11:23:48 am
Post by: Jon on January 01, 2010, 11:23:48 am
Ah, I see! Smash did an extraordinary job on Sain and Kent from Fire Emblem, a game which also is a favorite of mine. The generic Cavalier is also quite nice. I like how it is a whole sprite sheet. Did someone make a Lyndis? She is the coolest character from the whole FE series, in my opinion
Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic
Post by: jimmyjw88 on January 01, 2010, 11:30:37 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on January 01, 2010, 11:30:37 am
Smash did a frame.
Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic
Post by: Jon on January 01, 2010, 11:41:42 am
Post by: Jon on January 01, 2010, 11:41:42 am
Aww, that is too bad...Lyndis, Sain and Kent are the first 3 heroes you encounter in FE, so it would be cool to see Lyn and her 2 knights
Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on January 01, 2010, 01:18:00 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on January 01, 2010, 01:18:00 pm
here a version with the portrait spot and if you plan to make the death poses,keep in mind that I planned a regular death pose for him
Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic
Post by: Jon on January 01, 2010, 02:16:18 pm
Post by: Jon on January 01, 2010, 02:16:18 pm
Ahhh thank ye kindly. Looks good
Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic
Post by: VampragonLord on January 01, 2010, 10:01:54 pm
Post by: VampragonLord on January 01, 2010, 10:01:54 pm
i always pictured Balbanes as a cross between Zalbag and Ramza
/end2cents
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Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic
Post by: Knox on January 02, 2010, 02:55:30 pm
Post by: Knox on January 02, 2010, 02:55:30 pm
Why not use Mustadio's head for the wounded poses and recolor or reform it to match the rest?
If you haven't thought of it already, it seems like they are fairly similar.
If you haven't thought of it already, it seems like they are fairly similar.
Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic
Post by: Kagebunji on January 02, 2010, 03:05:04 pm
Post by: Kagebunji on January 02, 2010, 03:05:04 pm
Yeah, Mustadio's head look almost identical to Balbanes. But head isn't a problem, biggest problem is with arms. legs and armor.
Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on January 03, 2010, 01:30:05 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on January 03, 2010, 01:30:05 pm
The time for the greatest annoucement in a sprite topic.
Balbanes is completed and ready to kick some asses.
thanks to everyone who read,posted and suggested
special thanks to: Asmo for helping me on the beggining,Seushiro for helping me to complete the spritesheet and Smash with the death poses
btw,Mike can now fullfil his dream of adding a cape to this sprite
Balbanes is completed and ready to kick some asses.
thanks to everyone who read,posted and suggested
special thanks to: Asmo for helping me on the beggining,Seushiro for helping me to complete the spritesheet and Smash with the death poses
btw,Mike can now fullfil his dream of adding a cape to this sprite
Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic (Sprite Completed)
Post by: mav on January 03, 2010, 02:29:10 pm
Post by: mav on January 03, 2010, 02:29:10 pm
Great job. Make sure to submit it, if you haven't already.
Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic (Sprite Completed)
Post by: Cheetah on January 03, 2010, 03:32:44 pm
Post by: Cheetah on January 03, 2010, 03:32:44 pm
Most excellent. The death poses look excellent too.
Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic (Sprite Completed)
Post by: Kagebunji on January 03, 2010, 03:52:27 pm
Post by: Kagebunji on January 03, 2010, 03:52:27 pm
Good job on this. Now how will it be used 
Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic (Sprite Completed)
Post by: jimmyjw88 on January 03, 2010, 08:25:38 pm
Post by: jimmyjw88 on January 03, 2010, 08:25:38 pm
Well done.
Title: Re: The Balbanes Sprite Topic (Sprite Completed)
Post by: Jon on January 04, 2010, 04:20:42 pm
Post by: Jon on January 04, 2010, 04:20:42 pm
Cool! Balbanes the Heavenly Knight is done ;)