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Modding => Spriting => Topic started by: Vanya on May 24, 2009, 01:53:48 am

Title: Vanya's Custom Sprites and Edits
Post by: Vanya on May 24, 2009, 01:53:48 am
I figured I should make a topic for my sprite projects so here.
I'll be adding images for critique here and completed projects as attachments. They will also be submitted to Zodiac as usual.

I'll begin with a project I've been working on this week.

000: Classic Hydras (v1.0)
*Status: 100%
*New Palettes
*New Palette Format
*Minor Edits

1)Hydra - Colors based on FF1anni version.
2)Fire Hydra - Colors based on FF1anni version.
3)Hydragon - Colors are a blend of the new Hydra's colors and those of the Dragon. This is a Hydra/Dragon hybrid.
4)Orochi - Colors based on FF1anni version. This is a rare monster in my "seekret" monster expansion patch. Can't be tamed.
5)Tiamat - Colors based on FF1anni version. This is a special boss monster for a new event battle in the patch.[/u]

(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh189/koala_knight/FFT%20Expansion/NewHydrasSample-1.png)

001: Ramza Ch2&3 Defender (v1.1)
*Status: 100%
*New Palette
*New Palette Format
*Moderate Edits

(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh189/koala_knight/FFT%20Expansion/RamzaCh23Alternatev11Sample.png)

002: Ramza Ch2&3 Defender (v1.2)
*Status: 100%
*New Palette
*New Palette Format
*Moderate Edits
*New arms for a non spiky look.

(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh189/koala_knight/FFT%20Expansion/RamzaCh23Alternatev12nospikesSample.png)
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Post by: Vanya on May 24, 2009, 02:08:22 am
-edit-
all files are at the sprite submission thread
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 24, 2009, 08:12:43 am
Wow....This isn't bad at all.
Impressive ^^
If the new dragon by Smash is made, it would be better, with the combination with these colors.
Perhaps combination of hydra and dragon. Hmm...
Well, anyway, it still looks good ^^
Well done Vanya.
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Post by: Zozma on May 24, 2009, 03:14:39 pm
so vanya... are you going to be able to make all 5 levels of hydra's without using up 5 job slots...?
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Post by: dwib on May 24, 2009, 09:39:12 pm
the fire hydra's pallet is awesome vanya
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Post by: Vanya on May 24, 2009, 10:54:19 pm
Quote from: "jimmyjw88"Wow....This isn't bad at all.
Impressive ^^
If the new dragon by Smash is made, it would be better, with the combination with these colors.
Perhaps combination of hydra and dragon. Hmm...
Well, anyway, it still looks good ^^
Well done Vanya.

Quote from: "dwib"the fire hydra's pallet is awesome vanya

Thanks guys.

Quote from: "Zozma"so vanya... are you going to be able to make all 5 levels of hydra's without using up 5 job slots...?

I was planning on using 4, maybe 5.
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Post by: Cheetah on May 24, 2009, 11:00:45 pm
You are the master of recolors Vanya without a doubt, these look great.
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Post by: Vanya on May 25, 2009, 09:13:51 am
Haha. ^_^ Thanks, Cheetah.
I think it's because I sit there with a calculator and make sure the colors have compatible values.
I've gotta post the chocobos again and the new ghosts that I never released.
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Post by: Celdia on May 25, 2009, 09:38:16 am
They look very nice, Vanya. I totally approve of Tiamat making an FFT appearance. ^_^
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Post by: Vanya on May 25, 2009, 12:03:16 pm
Thanks! ^_^
I'm planning on adding Lamiae and redrawing the skeletons.
Tiamat is done and Kraken will be a mindflayer recolor.
That way I can have Tiamat, Lich, Kraken and Marilith in a battle together.
Maybe I could put them in a battle with Chaos?
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Post by: LastingDawn on May 25, 2009, 12:13:55 pm
Hmm, that's a good idea. Especially if you stick with just the four Light Warriors, that would be 9 sprites exactly. What do you plan for Lich, anyhow?
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Post by: Vanya on May 25, 2009, 03:24:41 pm
The Light Warriors are for another patch, but it should be compatible with the enemy expansion one.

For Lich I'm planning on revising the current skeleton sprite into a complete humanoid sprite with attributes from the FF1 Lich.
They will keep the cape, but also have an open robe, bracers, and a horned helmet on a humanoid skull.
I will probably keep the boots.
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Post by: Smitson on May 25, 2009, 05:18:58 pm
Lol Vanya is a FF1 fanboy. Good looking sprites though Vanya.
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Post by: Vanya on May 25, 2009, 06:03:57 pm
It was the first one I ever played back in the day.
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Post by: Celdia on May 27, 2009, 10:23:16 am
FF1 was the best of the series. Without it we wouldn't have all the greatness (and occasional not greatness) that came to follow. All of you should be FF1 fanboys (or fangirls as the case may be.)
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 27, 2009, 11:23:10 am
Hihi Celdia...long time didn't see you. Lol ^^
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Post by: mav on May 27, 2009, 12:18:22 pm
Gorgeous sprites man. I love these FFI-inspired palettes; can't wait to see more.
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Post by: Vanya on May 27, 2009, 06:22:09 pm
Thanks! ^_^
Next up will be the Flans. (I did say I would do them in the request thread.)
I already know what they will be.
Flan, Slime, & Jelly for the normal ones.
And I decided to make a Foobar from FF12 for the rare one.
Since I have room for a fifth palette I'll add a bonus one which won't be featured in my hack.
I have 3 choices for a base I can work off of. The ones from FF12rw & FFTA are good for a human sized flan, and then the FFTA2 sprite is better for a standard monster sprite.
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Post by: Cheetah on May 27, 2009, 07:11:04 pm
I will look forward to it Vanya. I didn't realize that there were flan sprites from FF12rw.
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Post by: Vanya on May 30, 2009, 04:25:50 am
Anybody know of a good way to rip sprite data from FFTA2?
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Post by: Smash on May 30, 2009, 04:38:13 am
You would not make them from scratch?
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Post by: Vanya on May 30, 2009, 09:57:57 am
I prefer to have a base; plus I want to see if it has a different attack animation from the rw one.
I would settle for the TA one, but those sprites are no more easily available than the A2 ones.
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Post by: mav on June 08, 2009, 04:22:20 pm
Regarding your new palettes for Ch. 2 and 3 Ramza, I like the first and third on the first image you posted and the first, fourth, and fifth on the second image you posted. I just wanted to point out that the rust-colored armor is phenomenal--I don't know if the color combo you have is working, but I'd love to see someone wearing rusted armor if you ever choose to do another palette.
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Post by: CidIII on June 08, 2009, 07:16:52 pm
This doesn't function well enough as a base?
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Post by: Vanya on June 08, 2009, 07:23:18 pm
^Where's that from, Cid? And, yes, I think that will do. ^_^

Quote from: "mav"I just wanted to point out that the rust-colored armor is phenomenal--I don't know if the color combo you have is working, but I'd love to see someone wearing rusted armor if you ever choose to do another palette.

Thanks! And, I am planning on doing an undead warrior sprite at some point.
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Post by: CidIII on June 08, 2009, 07:25:13 pm
FFTA, I believe, it's part of the Jap shitty sprite pack. I have the whole sprite file assembled, if you'd like it.
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Post by: Vanya on June 08, 2009, 07:30:00 pm
Crap I forgot all about those sprites... again.
Sure I'd appreciate the assembled spr. ^_^
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Post by: CidIII on June 08, 2009, 07:34:36 pm
Here you go:
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Post by: Vanya on June 10, 2009, 01:16:22 am
Here's the current 'New Ramza 2' sprite:
(Version 1.0)
(Version 1.1) with extra shading in the pants for comparison.

(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh189/koala_knight/FFT%20Expansion/NewRamza2v10.png)   (http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh189/koala_knight/FFT%20Expansion/NewRamza2v11.png)
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Post by: LastingDawn on June 10, 2009, 02:43:56 am
Hmm, I like it as a standalone, but does it really fit Chapter 2 Ramza very well? Of course I'm not sure what you're planning to do with him over all, but I feel for normal Chapter 2 Ramza, the armor's too flashy for a man trying to blend in.
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Post by: Vanya on June 10, 2009, 09:20:31 am
I think so.
I'm going to implement the job evolution for him I've mentioned in the past.
Fencer -> Defender -> Riskbreaker
I never liked the original palette because it looked mismatched.
That in and of itself fits with a mercenary idea, but the execution was just ugly to me.
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Post by: LastingDawn on June 10, 2009, 03:29:31 pm
Ah, going with a job  evolution, alright then, sounds good to me.
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Post by: Vanya on June 10, 2009, 03:37:57 pm
I uploaded another beta of the New Ramza 2. Look above. ^

I decided to give him a bit more color by changing the blue on the wrists and ankles to brown.
I think it looks better, but what about you guys.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 10, 2009, 11:22:26 pm
I think both looks good too ^^
Don't know why but I kinda like the previous version; maybe because of the blue blends in overall, but anyway, this is nice too ^^
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Post by: Vanya on June 12, 2009, 11:48:23 am
Updated the png above to v1.0 & added v1.1 for comparison.
Let me know if you guys find any errors, pls! ^_^

Files:
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Post by: Zozma on June 12, 2009, 10:25:20 pm
now to find a way to make flans multiply...
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Post by: Vanya on June 12, 2009, 10:47:48 pm
That would be an evil, sadistic thing to do to a player. I like it! ^_^
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 14, 2009, 02:24:04 am
Sorry Vanya but what's the two versions' difference?
I think they look perfect but what's the difference between these two?
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Post by: Vanya on June 14, 2009, 09:40:56 am
The second one has an extra shade of blue to give the pans a bit more detail.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 14, 2009, 11:52:11 am
Oh...i see. Hmm....I think the second might be better cause with that extra blue, it acts as highlights ^^
That's my opinion of course. Whichever you think its the best, then go for it cause I think both looks just fine; with or without that extra blue shade ^^
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Post by: Vanya on June 15, 2009, 02:11:35 pm
Edit: Continuing evolution of the Radd dark knight concept...
(Don't worry, I'm keeping the red palette in mind still. It looks pretty good with black armor. ^_^)
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Post by: LastingDawn on June 15, 2009, 02:28:01 pm
Looks good if not just a bit generic... think you could try the Thief's headband with Ramza's hair color? That might make him stand out a bit more.
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Post by: Cheetah on June 15, 2009, 03:02:16 pm
I'm sorry Vanya but that brown with the red is just really clashing for me. Especially with the light hair color and face.
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Post by: Vanya on June 15, 2009, 03:54:38 pm
@LD: I was thinking of using either a modified version of Gafgarion's Helmet or a custom one based on the FFXI dark knight.

@Cheetah: That's cool, no worries I wasn't expecting to get it right on the first try. It looks much better with Gafgarion's light greys.
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Post by: Cheetah on June 15, 2009, 04:07:32 pm
That is a good idea. Also I think the body is a great design, but you might want to consider changing out the arms. They are just too recognizable.
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Post by: Vanya on June 15, 2009, 04:27:18 pm
Any suggestions?
BTW I probably should have mentioned his new job is Dark Knight.
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Post by: mav on June 15, 2009, 04:34:22 pm
The overall concept looks good, but I agree with Cheetah: the color combo is a bit hard on the eyes and the arms should be switched out. Maybe you could use the Male Lancer's arms? But that'll probably look wrong once the helmet is there...

Your call though; you've shown exceptional taste already.
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Post by: Vanya on June 15, 2009, 05:00:27 pm
Thanks! ^_^

I want to keep the pauldrons at least.
That will preserve the traditional Dark Knight look while making it look different.
I'm also thinking of changing out his boots for more heavily armored greaves.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 18, 2009, 01:59:34 am
This looks cool ^^
And what they say. And that idea of the boots might work too ^^
Change it a little bit so that it doesn't look like a replica of Gafgarion with changes on head and the colours.
Maybe like what you said, a modified helmet or something ^^
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 18, 2009, 05:12:38 am
Haha...Sorry. Not replica of Gafgarion. I forgotten that Gafgarion has the white furry thing.
Lol
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Post by: Vanya on June 18, 2009, 11:20:08 am
I'm thinking now of experimenting with some bits from the WotL Dark Knight and maybe adding some more custom parts from FFXI dark knight. Radd is being more difficult than I thought. I might go back to Ramza and give him different arms so Radd can keep the spikey armor instead.
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Post by: Vanya on June 18, 2009, 07:45:01 pm
New Ramza v1.2:
Replaced the spiky arms with his chapter 4 arms.
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Post by: Archael on June 18, 2009, 07:54:59 pm
I love the rad concept


because he's still a squire but a unique looking one

the colors could improve like cheetah mentioned
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Post by: Vanya on June 18, 2009, 08:27:01 pm
What color armor do you guys think would go good with that red?

--Update--
The new Ramza sprites have been submitted.
The Classic Hydras will also be submitted shortly.
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Post by: Vanya on June 19, 2009, 01:10:49 pm
OK. All three of the sprites in the first post have been submitted and the files are available here:
http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=405&start=120
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Post by: Cheetah on June 19, 2009, 02:13:15 pm
I like the sprite a lot more Vanya, that is sweet stuff.
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Post by: mav on June 19, 2009, 04:11:39 pm
Congrats on finishing all these, Vanya; you did well. If you still need arms, have you thought about using Ch. 2/3 Delita's?
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Post by: Vanya on June 23, 2009, 12:22:05 am
Thanks guys! ^_^
I think I'm good for arms now.
Next up is finishing Radd. I'm thinking I'll end up with 2 flavors. One will be more Squire style, and the other will be more Dark Knight style.

Edit: Updated Radd dark knight in previous post. I decided to use Ramza Ch.4 Legs. What do you guys think?
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Post by: Cheetah on June 23, 2009, 01:37:57 am
I really want to put a helm on that Ramza v1.2 and call it a heavy armored class, looks really good. The colors are a major improvement with the blueish armor for the dark knight Rad.
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Post by: mav on June 23, 2009, 02:36:19 am
Oh man, Rad looks gorgeous--I love the color combo you put on him. Are you gonna keep the squire head on him?
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 23, 2009, 02:50:19 am
Yea. Rad looks great. ^^
And what mav asked, about the head; cause with that head, I think it still doesn't look fully dark knight though
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Post by: Vanya on June 23, 2009, 12:43:54 pm
I'm gonna do one Radd with a helmet and one without. I'm leaning towards a custom helm based on FFXI's dark knight.

As for a heavy armor unit... I still have those alternative knight sprites I never finished. I could take the helm from that one and do a quick mod to Ramza.
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Post by: Vanya on June 24, 2009, 06:05:08 pm
Here's another update for Radd the Dark Knight (no helmet).
All he needs is a new portrait and he's done.
I'm including some sample palettes; some old some new.
(I'm betting that everyone will like the red clothes/black armor palette the best.)
Next up will be the helmeted version...
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Post by: Cheetah on June 24, 2009, 07:42:06 pm
Looking good. The first one with the blue armor and the last with the black definitely look the best. Though if you had the dark armor with the gray hood that would be epic. Doing the color swaps for the hair and skin tone could be cool as well. I'm looking forward to what you can come up with for a helm.
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Post by: mav on June 25, 2009, 12:59:12 pm
The first one trumps everything: the second one's colors don't seem to fit Rad (as beautiful of a combo as it is), the third looks too barbarian, the fourth seems kinda random, and although the fifth looks pretty good I'm not a big fan of the red.

And, yeah, I can't wait to see how this'll look with the helmet.
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Post by: Vanya on June 25, 2009, 01:51:13 pm
I looked into the FFXI dark knight artifact helm and it basically the same as Cecil's helm, but with an open face.
It shouldn't be too difficult to make one for Radd.
And, you're right, Mav. The red armor was completely random.
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Post by: Cheetah on June 25, 2009, 02:14:54 pm
You could maybe use the head of the quick dark knight Cecil sprite that "what's her name" did a while back. Though it might be a bit small.
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Post by: Vanya on June 25, 2009, 05:29:02 pm
Here's my first attempt. Obviously it needs more work.

I don't know... I think I might just leave the coif as is and just add horns and a visor.
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Post by: altgexx on June 25, 2009, 05:35:32 pm
Dude that looks awesome. I really admire your work, I can only wish that I had half the skills you have.
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Post by: mav on June 25, 2009, 07:09:51 pm
Holy shit, that's fucking awesome! Keep up the good work, man.
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Post by: Asmo X on June 26, 2009, 12:49:01 am
2nd palette is the best
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Post by: Vanya on June 26, 2009, 08:52:26 am
How's this?
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 26, 2009, 12:41:44 pm
Amazing...truly amazing ^^
Looking forward to this.
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Post by: not psp master on June 26, 2009, 01:16:47 pm
Excuse me, Vanya, But have you got a .spr file of your DK Rad? Or I do not understand sth?
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Post by: Vanya on June 26, 2009, 01:54:57 pm
No. There won't be an .spr file until the sprite is completed. If you want to use what I have done thus far then you'll have to import it onto an existing type1 .spr file.
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Post by: not psp master on June 26, 2009, 02:33:34 pm
Allrighty then. Cheers!
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Post by: Cheetah on June 26, 2009, 02:48:30 pm
I like the hight of the horn on the first one, but think it should be a little further back like on the second one. Though I would have to see this for the front angle to really know. Maybe a curve to the horn?
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Post by: Vanya on June 26, 2009, 03:07:31 pm
It's supposed to look like it has a slight curve.

BTW. I was looking again at the sprite/models and it seems the first one is closer to the FFX! Dark Knight and the second is closer to FFIV Dark Knight Cecil. I might try you suggestion for an 'in between' look.

Anyway Here's another. I did one with the 'eyes' from Cecil's helm for fun. ^_^

I probably need to lower the front of the helm a bit in the 2nd frame.
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Post by: altgexx on June 26, 2009, 03:47:02 pm
Sweet, both of these are great, but I prefer the 2nd one.
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Post by: Cheetah on June 26, 2009, 09:53:04 pm
The side angle is looking very good. Though I do have to say that something does have to be done to the general shape of the helm so that he doesn't end up looking too much like megaman...
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Post by: mav on June 26, 2009, 10:47:59 pm
I agree with Cheetah, this helmet needs some distinction to get around Mega Man syndrome.
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Post by: Smash on June 27, 2009, 01:06:45 am
Dammit.. I could swear I critiqued that helmet with 2 or more paragraphs yesterday.. And then IE crashed because of a scripted window glitch.
I even detailed the way you should have fixed the horns and all that..


Im not feeling to go through all that again, so a quick edit may be the most effective way to go.

Asking permission before touching
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 27, 2009, 03:34:59 am
Yea. I think the horn should slightly curve abit.
For now, I think it looks like helm with wings
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Post by: Vanya on June 27, 2009, 09:41:23 am
By all means, Smash. This is the first helmet I've ever scratched, so I'd appreciate any help. ^_^

The horns should be easy enough to fix. It's the megaman-ness I'm worried about fixing.

Edit: Are these horns better?
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Post by: Cheetah on June 27, 2009, 12:59:03 pm
Oh yeah the horns are much better now. Though the Front Angle ones look like they need to be moved up one pixel.
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Post by: Smash on June 27, 2009, 11:35:00 pm
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l208/xavier2000/PhotobucketUpld-197.png)

My try

I just fixed the horns, helm, chestplate, and the face, and altered the pallete a bit to add depth.
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Post by: Cheetah on June 28, 2009, 12:29:39 am
The shading on the horns is definitely much much better. The shape of the helmet is definitely move in the right direction, though you inadvertantly made the shape even more like megamans haha. Given the helmet depth like that is definitely needed though.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 28, 2009, 07:38:18 am
Wow....This is great ^^
Really really looking forward to this sprite Vanya ^^
And the horn is so much better, Vanya ^^
The helmet is really getting to shape like dark knight ^^
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Post by: Vanya on June 28, 2009, 11:56:18 am
Those are some interesting changes. I'll have a closer look at them later and decide where to go with it. Thanks. ^_^
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Post by: Atma on October 20, 2010, 08:09:57 pm
hmm, i like the idea of making Rad a special class, not just a generic Squire... kind of like Gafgarian's apprentice ^.^
has this sprite been finished?
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Post by: Vanya on October 24, 2010, 09:59:20 am
Nope.
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Post by: Archael on October 26, 2010, 08:22:54 am
Quote from: "Smash"(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l208/xavier2000/PhotobucketUpld-197.png)

My try

I just fixed the horns, helm, chestplate, and the face, and altered the pallete a bit to add depth.

tienes una habilidad increible para hacer magia con algo que se veia tan... mediocre

:)
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Post by: Wolfran on October 26, 2010, 09:12:36 pm
Yo creo que no se veia tan mal pero hay que admitir que se ve mejor ahora.