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Yes! - 35 (72.9%)
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Total Members Voted: 23

Voting closed: September 20, 2008, 05:52:52 PM


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  • [September 26, 2008, 04:21:57 PM]
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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2008, 04:21:57 PM »
That may be the case with "Nigger", but that particular situation is ironically very retarded and stupid. The evolution of the word orient has a logical course though. And if you get down to the pure semantics of it orient means 'the East' and oriental means 'from the East'. This means different things to different people. Technically, for us in the Americas the Orient includes all of Europe, Africa, Asia, and Australia. But this is totally off topic.
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  • [September 26, 2008, 05:27:05 PM]
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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2008, 05:27:05 PM »
yea i guess i get your point and nice pointing out the irony there  :lol:
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  • [September 26, 2008, 08:55:32 PM]
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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2008, 08:55:32 PM »
Quote from: "LastingDawn"
In any case about Dash... it's a possibility you might want to change the animations associated with the skill.  To do that, look up the "Animation Skill Links" in which this should follow.


O.o Um, a lot of thanks for this, but I seem so far beyond anyone due to my absence and business ... I haven't a clue how to use this. Or much of anything else that's new for that matter ...
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  • [September 27, 2008, 04:43:55 AM]
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« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2008, 04:43:55 AM »
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i understand that language is dynamic but common usage is not what the word actually mean and my chief example is the "n" word used to mean dirty stupid and retarded but now people think its a bad term for black people thats where i say NO


What the fuck is this shit?
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  • [September 27, 2008, 04:33:25 PM]
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« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2008, 04:33:25 PM »
Okay, since everyone is more busy with arguments about proper terms rather than lending a helping hand, maybe changing the formula to that of Repeating Fists will help...

Edit: ... nope, he's still tackling. >.<
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  • [September 27, 2008, 04:48:48 PM]
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« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2008, 04:48:48 PM »
yeah, the animation that the character does is hardcoded, so even if you set the effect to say, Fire, he'd still tackle. one of the excell forms on the forums, I think the one for tracking ability name changes, lists what animation each skill slot calls on.
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  • [September 27, 2008, 05:26:25 PM]
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« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2008, 05:26:25 PM »
Quote from: "Asmo X"
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i understand that language is dynamic but common usage is not what the word actually mean and my chief example is the "n" word used to mean dirty stupid and retarded but now people think its a bad term for black people thats where i say NO

What the fuck is this shit?


it was an example in an argument that is over and buried a stalemate was reached and we're done....DONE

why not just change from spin fist animation to the spin fist move?
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  • [September 27, 2008, 06:30:59 PM]
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« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2008, 06:30:59 PM »
... not sure what you mean honestly. LastingDawn said something about Animation Skill Links, but I didn't see anything in there about how to change them. So, I guess Tackle will stay Tackle for now.
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  • [September 27, 2008, 10:29:11 PM]
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  • [September 27, 2008, 11:06:30 PM]
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« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2008, 11:06:30 PM »
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read up on this:

http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=888


Yeah, I've skimmed through all five pages and I still don't see anywhere where it explains how to edit Animation Skill Links, only what certain ones do and such. :(
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  • [September 28, 2008, 01:43:11 AM]
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« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2008, 01:43:11 AM »
play around with it thats how you discover stuff
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  • [September 28, 2008, 02:58:25 AM]
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« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2008, 02:58:25 AM »
I think on pg3 Zodiac posted a list of the offsets of each of the skills. Just look at the values and you'll be able to figure out what pose corresponds to what.

I also put in an explanation of what each of the 3 byte per entry control. byte 1 is post part 1, byte 2 is pose part 3, and byte 3 is text displayed after using the skill.

I'm going to add a lot of info on this to the wiki when I have some time. In the mean time I'll show you 2 important values:

$012C00 = Standard spell-casting pose with spell energy color determined by the spell's element.

$070000 = Standard weapon attack pose. Works in conjunction with the weapon strike check box in the Patcher.

Hope this helps. =)
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  • [September 28, 2008, 03:35:47 AM]
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« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2008, 03:35:47 AM »
Sorry, those numbers mean absolutely nothing to me. Hex editing, I assume? I've never really played with hex editing ... which I guess kind of makes me lame and far behind anyone else here in terms of doing things.
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  • [September 28, 2008, 06:11:41 AM]
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« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2008, 06:11:41 AM »
Here:

http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=700

I put together a small tutorial about Hex editing! =)
It's really very easy.
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« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2008, 04:59:29 PM »
Quote from: "Vanya"
Here:

http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=700

I put together a small tutorial about Hex editing! =)
It's really very easy.

Okay, I kind of see what's going on now, but ... I'm still a bit confused, sorry. >.< For example, when I open BATTLE.BIN, I see this for the first & second line;

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00000000 || 88880680888806808888068088880680 || ................
00000010 || 94880680948806809488068094880680 || ................

This part makes no sense to me relating to any of the lists provided with things like;

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x2CE10
x2CE13 Cure
x2CE16 Cure 2
x2CE19 Cure 3
x2CE1C Cure 4
x2CE1F Raise
x2CE22 Raise 2
x2CE25 Reraise
x2CE28 Regen
x2CE2B Protect
x2CE2E Protect 2


I mean, I understand hex counting fairly easily, but these two 'tables' don't mesh well at all and the Readme for the hex editor doesn't really explain much.
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  • [September 28, 2008, 06:52:47 PM]
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« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2008, 06:52:47 PM »
x2ce13 is the address or offset of the 3 byte entry for Cure.

If you go to x2ce13 you'll see this: 01 2c 00.

The line starts at 2ce10.
01 is at 2ce13.
2c is at 2ce14.
00 is at 2ce15.

The next entry is at 2ce16.

See? BTW what program are you using?
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« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2008, 07:10:41 PM »
WindHex and what you said doesn't make much sense to me either. Sorry for being so difficult ... I'm a very visual learner.
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  • [September 28, 2008, 09:40:07 PM]
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« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2008, 09:40:07 PM »
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00000000 || 88880680888806808888068088880680 || ................
00000010 || 94880680948806809488068094880680 || ................


The numbers all the way on the left, "00000000" and "00000010", are the starting addresses of those two lines.

Like in any number system the leading 0's don't have to be typed. Thus, the offset of the first byte of each of those lines is "0x0" & "0x10". The "0x" tells you that we're talking about an offset. OK?
Also, it can be written without the first 0 as in "x0" & "x10", but that isn't proper.

The value stored at 0x0 is "$88". The value stored at 0x1 is also "$88".
When writing a hex value you put a "$" in front of it or an "h" after it. Thus, $88 is the same as 88h, OK?

So when I tell you that the skill animation at 0x2ce13 is 012c00. It means that the three bytes at that address are 01, 2c, and 00.

In WinHex, you load battle.bin.
Click on the 'Search' menu.
Go down to 'Go To Offset' and click on it.
The dialogue box that pops up has a space marked 'File Position'. In that space type "2ce13" and press enter.
It will jump down to line '0002ce10' which will be highlighted, and the cursor will be on the number '01'.
Next to it will be '2c', and next to that is '00'.
Those 3 numbers are the skill animation value. If you change it to "$070000" the cure spell will make the caster use their weapon instead of the normal spellcast animation.
Try it and see.
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  • [September 28, 2008, 09:55:11 PM]
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« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2008, 09:55:11 PM »
[Scratches out.]
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  • [September 28, 2008, 09:56:26 PM]
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« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2008, 09:56:26 PM »
Wasn't done typing yet... read the whole thing now.
I'm adding this to the tutorial, too. In case anyone else needs detailed explanations like it in the future. =)
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