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Blue Magic  (Read 14473 times)
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Zozma [Posts: 4602]
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  • [February 09, 2009, 11:03:10 PM]
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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2009, 11:03:10 PM »
Tripple bracelet, theres no way to keep it from looking glitchy.

however, Triple Thunder, Triple Flame, and Dark Whisper (which has been made to function the same 3 times like the other two) could be made to work

Also, Lifebreak? would it make sense to have both lifebreak AND ulmagest? would you ever use lifebreak when you coudl use ulmaguest?
which would you guys prefer? i was thinking of making a spell that uses the ulmagest effect, called X-Zone, which is a AoE 2, chance at causing death. However that would have to be given to a special unit as it would be impossible to blue magic.
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dwib [Posts: 674]
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  • [February 09, 2009, 11:08:03 PM]
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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2009, 11:08:03 PM »
really? it worked fine when i used it in a small hack where i gave reis more dragon abilities...
and just now when i tested it.

triple thunder and triple flame would be very powerful for the blue mage's set, dark whisper sounds good to me

ulmaguest has an AoE so i guess they are different. X-zone would be a good idea!
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Zozma [Posts: 4602]
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  • [February 09, 2009, 11:19:50 PM]
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« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2009, 11:19:50 PM »
so triple bracelet works fine? perhaps i will use it afterall then. what kind of animation plays when used with a human?

also, ? Spark, and Odd soundwave perhaps?
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  • [February 09, 2009, 11:25:51 PM]
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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2009, 11:25:51 PM »
they do the pose humans do with most monster skills where the weird blue knife comes up, except there's no weird blue knife

does't spark hit the caster also? that could be wierd... but i think odd soundwave could be a good addition to mix up the skillset
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Zozma [Posts: 4602]
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  • [February 09, 2009, 11:29:52 PM]
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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2009, 11:29:52 PM »
spark will be benificial with the right equipment.

and thats what im referring to about the glitchy pose thing, however i can probably fix it, but if it makes the original user, tiamants look odd doing it then ill leave it out.
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  • [February 09, 2009, 11:37:39 PM]
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« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2009, 11:37:39 PM »
Maybe one or 2 from each family.
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  • [February 09, 2009, 11:50:58 PM]
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« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2009, 11:50:58 PM »
White wind:

Heals ~25-50% of hp in a PBAoE 4 Star cross surrounding the caster. Does not hit the caster.
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Zozma [Posts: 4602]
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  • [February 09, 2009, 11:55:19 PM]
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« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2009, 11:55:19 PM »
now thats an interesting idea, do we have a formula currently that can do that... i forget? In other games doesnt it heal in the amount of hp the caster has currently?
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  • [February 10, 2009, 12:05:13 AM]
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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2009, 12:05:13 AM »
Yea. So a high HP Ignis with 900HP can use White Wind on her comrades and heal there HP up completely unless...
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Zozma [Posts: 4602]
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  • [February 10, 2009, 12:06:33 AM]
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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2009, 12:06:33 AM »
yeah it has to be different this time. especially to make murasama worth something
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Zozma [Posts: 4602]
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  • [February 10, 2009, 01:11:11 AM]
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« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2009, 01:11:11 AM »
aha! Frog Song?

1000 needles could be converted back to, "Blowfish" like it is in ff6

and make it a set amount of damage. even tho 1000 damage in ff6 would be like 1/10th of the targets hp on lvl99 i think id make it do a solid 400 or 500 damage here?
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  • [February 10, 2009, 01:28:06 AM]
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« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2009, 01:28:06 AM »
hmm...I'd say 200-400, 400-500 is generally an insti-kill even if you are high leveled.
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Zozma [Posts: 4602]
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  • [February 10, 2009, 01:33:37 AM]
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« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2009, 01:33:37 AM »
hehe yeah you're right about that, 200 is probably decent damage
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  • [February 10, 2009, 02:12:07 AM]
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« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2009, 02:12:07 AM »
This is vanilla PSX only yes? I know that razelle has done an ASM hack to make potions heal a set % of hp. Why not pick his brain for help creating a similar skill?
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  • [February 10, 2009, 05:24:23 AM]
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« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2009, 05:24:23 AM »
Quote from: "Zozma"
and thats what im referring to about the glitchy pose thing, however i can probably fix it, but if it makes the original user, tiamants look odd doing it then ill leave it out.


that happens with pretty much all enemy skills with humans right?

good call with the frog song!! caster looking like they are singing will be awesome!!
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Zozma [Posts: 4602]
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  • [February 10, 2009, 05:27:39 AM]
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« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2009, 05:27:39 AM »
but dwib, i know how to fix those glitches. the problem is, by doing so the monster wont look bugged but wont necessarily use the desired animation either.

example? I have to create a duplicate of the skill "self destruct" so that bombs dont looks that funny animation they do.
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  • [February 10, 2009, 05:31:15 AM]
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« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2009, 05:31:15 AM »
i see! how will they blue mages be able to learn the repaired abilities of blue mage if they are hit by the non-repaired abilities of the monsters?
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Zozma [Posts: 4602]
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  • [February 10, 2009, 05:40:03 AM]
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« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2009, 05:40:03 AM »
there is a 4th tier bomb that will have it

some of them u have to watch out for subtle differences. the learnable one will have the magic charge overhead like a normal spell. not many tho. im trying my best not to have to waste skill slots by duping spells

it might be hard to find some of those rare monsters, but once one person learns something like exploder, u can teach it to everyone else right
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  • [February 10, 2009, 05:47:42 AM]
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« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2009, 05:47:42 AM »
oh ok thank you for clearing that up. i was thoroughly confused.
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  • [February 10, 2009, 12:41:43 PM]
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« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2009, 12:41:43 PM »
So will Blue Magic essentially be useless early game, because you have to wait for 4th tier monsters to start cropping up?
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