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Zozma [Posts: 4602]
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  • [February 07, 2009, 05:42:42 PM]
Story Discussion
« on: February 07, 2009, 05:42:42 PM »
Here I will list the points in the game where the story has been altered. I am also open to suggestions.
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-Chapter 1
Chapter 1 revolves quite a bit around Tietra, as it originally did with Algus, who does not join you for long in this game.
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Igros Garden

The first change that you will notice? Delita will ask Tietra to come with the group to Dorter. Algus will stay behind at Igros asking to have a discussion with Zalbag.
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Sweegy Woods

Obviously its different, Tietra s with you. Besides that, Delita finds a "beautiful" stone on the ground and gives it to his sister for good luck.
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Slums in Dorter

Tietra is with you instead of Algus.
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Dorter Interrogation

Tietra performs the interrogation, her actions here reveal a not so subtle change in her attitude.
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Cellar of Sand Mouse

Tietra's attitude gets worse as she takes similar actions towards Wiegraf that Algus would have had he been there.
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Thieves Fort

Tietra takes the actions in place of Algus, there are a few dialog changes.
At this point Delita should begin questioning the stability of his sibling.
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Igros


Algus gets abducted from Igros since he is in the castle instead of Tietra.
He is mistaken for the youngest Beoulve son. Tietra tells Delita that its not worth saving a common fencer and in the end she is expelled from the Beoulve residence.
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Mandalia plains scene

A scene at mandalia plains shows the last sight you get of Tietra in Chapter 1. Here you see that Tietra is puzzled by her own actions and claims, to her two newly hired units, that she feels a voice inside her head telling her what to do.
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Lenalia Plateau


Two generic units get some attention here, Jade and Fabian. After defeating Miluda here, she tells Ramza "this isn't over" and orders Jade and Fabian to run. The three of them escape and are not seen again for quite some time.
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Windmill Shed

Obviously Algus is the hostage here instead of Tietra. Slight dialog changes. During the battle, if all the lines are allowed to play Ramza insists to Wiegraf that Miluda is still alive. Wiegraf does not believe him because she is nowhere to be found. The rest of the event pans out normally.
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Ft Zeakden


Poor abucted Algus, I wonder how he would have felt if he had the memory of what he had done in the original game. Zalbag does not make an appearance here clearing him from being an asshole like in the original when he gave the order to shoot. Currently a common fencer fires the arrow. This could be changed later.
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Wiegraf: Draw your sword Ramza!
Ramza: But im a monk!!
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  • [February 07, 2009, 07:05:10 PM]
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2009, 07:05:10 PM »
LOL the Igros scene is EPIC!

What about Chapter 2-4? Me want info of Ignis
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  • [February 07, 2009, 07:10:04 PM]
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2009, 07:10:04 PM »
I will get to chapter 2 soon. there are some new changes coming to the whole chapter that have not yet been implemented.
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  • [February 07, 2009, 07:22:00 PM]
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2009, 07:22:00 PM »
New changes eh...

What role does Jade and Fabian play?
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  • [February 07, 2009, 07:26:16 PM]
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2009, 07:26:16 PM »
Jade and Fabian are hell bent on protecting Miluda who they idolize.
unfortunately for them they will take that to their graves.
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  • [February 07, 2009, 07:28:26 PM]
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2009, 07:28:26 PM »
And Miluda? Wait, do we fight her again after Lenalia?
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  • [February 07, 2009, 07:30:12 PM]
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2009, 07:30:12 PM »
Yes, Finath River
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  • [February 07, 2009, 07:58:14 PM]
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2009, 07:58:14 PM »
Tetra doing Algus' interrogation is hilarious.
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  • [February 07, 2009, 07:58:57 PM]
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2009, 07:58:57 PM »
But that isnt on the beta version I have right? I mean I am only suppose to duel Ignis and test out monsters etc etc
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  • [February 07, 2009, 07:59:43 PM]
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2009, 07:59:43 PM »
LOL! Same time post
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  • [February 07, 2009, 08:21:00 PM]
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2009, 08:21:00 PM »
yeah your version doesnt have changes past chapter 2, after ignis its simply testing mechanics
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  • [February 07, 2009, 08:22:02 PM]
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2009, 08:22:02 PM »
Mechanics like wat?
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  • [February 07, 2009, 08:24:56 PM]
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2009, 08:24:56 PM »
what you see when you fight randoms, how difficult, or not difficult the general gameplay is. the skills monsters and enemies have as well as equips. that sort of thing.

im counting on you to point out things that need to be much harder
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  • [February 07, 2009, 08:29:53 PM]
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2009, 08:29:53 PM »
LOL! 10-4 sir!
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  • [February 07, 2009, 08:42:09 PM]
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2009, 08:42:09 PM »
One thing I must ask is how will Delita be inspired to take his subtle crusade to become king and help the commoners etc. etc. if Teta doesn't get killed?
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  • [February 07, 2009, 08:48:39 PM]
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« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2009, 08:48:39 PM »
It happens at Zeakden in a different way, as "good" Algus last words about nobles using the commoners as mere pawns gets to him, in combination with them contributing to the current state of his sister.
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Ramza: But im a monk!!
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  • [February 07, 2009, 08:58:22 PM]
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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2009, 08:58:22 PM »
...hmm Not as driving as "the nobles killed my sister" you must admit.  Rather, some noble guy said that it is the nobles fault.
Still somewhat driving, but somewhat lacking as well for the sort of "revenge" delita gets.
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  • [February 07, 2009, 09:14:36 PM]
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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2009, 09:14:36 PM »
This is true, and it does need to be worked on ,which suggestions for it are definately welcome, all though, delita might end up being turned into more of an ass deliberately too.
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  • [February 07, 2009, 09:25:39 PM]
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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2009, 09:25:39 PM »
lol, that would be funny.  That would also allow for a fight between delita and Ramza, which is something I think would be cool...it wouldn't really work with the base original story because they are to close to fight one another, despite the threats.  

Wait, that just gave me an idea.  Now, why didn't delita help Ramza's name to be recognized in the original after the story?  Making them more enemy-like would explain that perfectly.  And the way to make it more enemy like?  Have Delita near (just an example) Bervania.  Have Ramza confront a Lucavi Teta at bervania.  As he kills teta, she transforms back and delita comes in witnessing his childhood friend as he kills his sister.

Or something to that effect
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  • [February 07, 2009, 09:32:27 PM]
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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2009, 09:32:27 PM »
quite interesting, except currently Tietra's next appearance replaces balk.

Thats where she actually takes her fatal fall, being saved only by the stone. allowing her to escape untill the last scene where you fight her lucavi.
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Ramza: But im a monk!!
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