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Zozma [Posts: 4604]
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  • [November 20, 2008, 03:49:48 PM]
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« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2008, 03:49:48 PM »
dude like this. join the cape to the collar, or it looks wierd. dont try to mimic the character art 100% or things wont look right anyway
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Wiegraf: Draw your sword Ramza!
Ramza: But im a monk!!
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  • [November 20, 2008, 04:15:39 PM]
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« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2008, 04:15:39 PM »
HOLY SHIT

just too kyooooote!
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  • [November 20, 2008, 08:53:52 PM]
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« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2008, 08:53:52 PM »
nother updaate XD
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  • [November 20, 2008, 09:09:05 PM]
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« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2008, 09:09:05 PM »
eyepatch
Those things just ooze corrupt broody past if your not a pirate.
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LastingDawn [Posts: 3452]
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  • [November 20, 2008, 09:40:09 PM]
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« Reply #44 on: November 20, 2008, 09:40:09 PM »
Heh, no eyepatch, I want Ramza to be very recognizable, but just a slight change to his face might be needed. Probably for his squire default picture, quite a depressed picture. Since Ramza is down and out, living off of Daravon at the beginning really.
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A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
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  • [December 16, 2008, 04:39:43 PM]
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« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2008, 04:39:43 PM »
I agree that a cape would be a nice addition as would a more rugged appearance and darker hair.

My main suggestion is get rid of the cowlick or whatever is going on with his hair.
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  • [December 16, 2008, 04:41:23 PM]
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« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2008, 04:41:23 PM »
That's an ahoge and it's meant to make him look childish/innocent.
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Oh pitiful shadow lost in the darkness, bringing torment and pain to others. Oh damned soul wallowing in your sin, perhaps...it is time to die
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  • [December 16, 2008, 08:43:29 PM]
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« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2008, 08:43:29 PM »
The cowlick is probably his most distinguishing physical characteristic. No reason it should go.

*Tries to smooth out the cowlick towards the back of his own head, to no avail.*
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  • [December 21, 2008, 02:36:16 PM]
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« Reply #48 on: December 21, 2008, 02:36:16 PM »
I think Ramza could do with a dash of stubble (not really facial hair but what may have once been) And I like the scar Idea, I think it would really suit to see him more disheveled though, perhaps a bloodstain somewhere on his outfit, or maybe even some tattering of his cape (which I totally think he should have) I think yeah, a recolor on his armor would be cool, though I've always liked the purple, if i were going to go with anything else it would be black with gold or gray(as close as one can get to gun-metal) highlights. Those are my ideas, I hope one of them is to your liking.

A red cape, I think, yeah, that would be my ideal "Troubled" Ramza
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LastingDawn [Posts: 3452]
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  • [December 21, 2008, 07:40:38 PM]
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« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2008, 07:40:38 PM »
Well my favorite outfit of Ramza in FFT, is Mercenary Ramza, which doesn't have a cape, the cape is only for Squire Ramza, which is in accordance to the production art of him, also it distinguishes his character a bit more in the opening cutscenes.
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A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
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  • [December 22, 2008, 11:21:00 PM]
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« Reply #50 on: December 22, 2008, 11:21:00 PM »
I think Izlude's mug might be a good place to draw ideas from....he always had a determined look, that might work well with merc Ramza.
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LastingDawn [Posts: 3452]
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  • [December 23, 2008, 02:11:34 AM]
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« Reply #51 on: December 23, 2008, 02:11:34 AM »
Hmm... that's not a bad idea.
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Kuraudo Sutoraifu [Posts: 903]
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  • [February 11, 2009, 04:39:59 AM]
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« Reply #52 on: February 11, 2009, 04:39:59 AM »
I'm just throwing some altered portrait ideas your way.  The Chap 4 Ramza with the Beoulve beard is half-joke, half-serious.

Chap 1 Ramza has his cape and a slight mood alteration.
Chap 2-3 Ramza has shoulders which I think makes him look a little tougher.
Chap 4 Ramza now has a beard.
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PX_Timefordeath [Posts: 1781]
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  • [February 11, 2009, 05:08:59 AM]
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« Reply #53 on: February 11, 2009, 05:08:59 AM »
By chap 4 Ramza should look intimidating, because he should be the badass merc that everyone fears. Like Ike. A beard would be awesome.
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  • [February 11, 2009, 03:43:58 PM]
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« Reply #54 on: February 11, 2009, 03:43:58 PM »
Beard looks awkward.
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  • [February 11, 2009, 05:37:11 PM]
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« Reply #55 on: February 11, 2009, 05:37:11 PM »
dislike beard

ramza has always been a clean boy he shave

he shave.
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LastingDawn [Posts: 3452]
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  • [February 11, 2009, 08:54:51 PM]
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« Reply #56 on: February 11, 2009, 08:54:51 PM »
Whoa, whoa, whoa! Chapter 1 portrait is amazing! I love that slick robe he seems to be fastened around. If I could see a couple frames of sprite animation for this, I might consider changing Chapter 1 Ramza to such. That robe, hood thing is too awesome to pass up!

The beard's a bit unnoticable... also for some reason seems to clash with Ramza's character.
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A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
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Kuraudo Sutoraifu [Posts: 903]
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  • [February 11, 2009, 09:27:47 PM]
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« Reply #57 on: February 11, 2009, 09:27:47 PM »
Chap 1 was supposed to be for Sonota/Zozma alteration, but I'll see what I can muster up.  Also, you mentioned Chap 2-3 having black armor instead of purple, would you like me to make that change.

And for Chap 4, I was thinking that Ramza's armor should be dramatically different from the Vanilla Ramza's Chap 4 armor.  I was thinking, since he stays with Gafgarog longer this time around, maybe he should adopt a similar armor.  Your thought, LD?
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LastingDawn [Posts: 3452]
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  • [February 11, 2009, 10:56:10 PM]
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« Reply #58 on: February 11, 2009, 10:56:10 PM »
Quite an interesting idea... originally my plan for Ramza was just to simply keep his Mercenary armor, but that's a bit bland after a point. I agree then, since Gafgarion is a driving force behind Ramza in this story some similar armor would not be a bad idea.
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A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
the dead brought back to life."

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  • [February 11, 2009, 11:06:38 PM]
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« Reply #59 on: February 11, 2009, 11:06:38 PM »
Hmm, maybe a mimic armor for ramza.

Here's a description of what i could imagine in my head. He would have body armor just like Gafgarion (mantle would be a nice addon). Shoulders would be buffed up just slightly to look as if hes a veteran. There could also be a turtleneck kinda feature that only covers up his mouth, not his nose or anything. The turtleneck would be going outward, a little less then 160 degrees relative to the ground. His armor would be brown/black. His other armor would look normal. Hair I think should stay the same so the resemblance can be seen between Chapters.
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