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Heisho [Posts: 80]
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  • [April 16, 2018, 06:53:05 PM]
Enemy Monsters equip items
« on: April 16, 2018, 06:53:05 PM »
Hello there!

I've been looking for a way for monsters to equip items. The only reference I found is an old thread (Monster takeover) where Emmy says there was a method on other thread for enemy monsters equip items.

I search for said thread with no positive results. My goal is to assign specific items on monsters. Regarding allied monsters I found the code that address that but at the moment is not a priority.

Anyone knows that thread Emmy spoke of?

Thanks in advance

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    • [April 17, 2018, 12:43:32 AM]
    Re: Enemy Monsters equip items
    « Reply #1 on: April 17, 2018, 12:43:32 AM »
    I believe I remember reading a post from her that said there were so many checks on Monsters that forcibly deequip them that it was functionally impossible. She was saying she'd found and disabled like a dozen or two of them and it was STILL not working.

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    • [April 17, 2018, 12:57:41 AM]
    Re: Enemy Monsters equip items
    « Reply #2 on: April 17, 2018, 12:57:41 AM »
    Maybe I'll try to check with her because I saw on some pictures her photobucket, a monster equipped...unless it was human class looking as a monster.
    In fact I only need for that on 2 monsters, and they are special monsters so it might be less complicated...well I think.

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    • [April 17, 2018, 01:36:35 AM]
    Re: Enemy Monsters equip items
    « Reply #3 on: April 17, 2018, 01:36:35 AM »
    Having it be on 1 monster isnt any more or less complicated than having it on a dozen monsters. Not sure why you think that will be easier...

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    • [April 17, 2018, 05:50:46 AM]
    Re: Enemy Monsters equip items
    « Reply #4 on: April 17, 2018, 05:50:46 AM »
    Because special monsters are more "closer" to human characters having skillsets more like them. For example if you use a new skillset on regular monsters they will master all abilities by default, how ever if there is a learn by hit ability it won't display in the skillset screen (like Worker 8 or Byblos appears as "Master") when on special monsters does.

    It's just a theory, even in WotL on some missions the Iron Giant has some items equipped, so I believe there is a way less complicated with special monsters than regular.

    That and that picture I saw:

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    • [April 18, 2018, 08:34:09 AM]
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    « Reply #5 on: April 18, 2018, 08:34:09 AM »
    The way to make enemy monsters have equipment is to assign them a gender (male or female), and NOT monster.  They also must not be recruitable, or they'll function as human.  As it was said, I have tried to make monsters equip things legitimately, but the problem is with stupid checks all over the place in the code.  "branch if unit is a monster" followed by "branch if unit has no item equipped in x slot" (why would the first check be necessary if the 2nd check is made). 
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    • [April 20, 2018, 11:45:34 PM]
    Re: Enemy Monsters equip items
    « Reply #6 on: April 20, 2018, 11:45:34 PM »
    Those checks sound like a whole lot of useless code...

    Anyway in my case is good news since that was exactly what I was looking for. Haven't tested yet but I trust Emmy in the monster department.

    I'm marking this topic as solved. As always, many thanks to all who take time to help.

    Cheers.

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