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Title: What about Zalmo?
Post by: Dome on March 06, 2009, 01:28:59 PM
I don't know if it has already been asked, and if it has, sorry...
Anyway, what are you planning to do with Zalmo? I always tought it could be a good character to play...
Maybe (if the battle remains the same) it could be recruited if he reach the critical status in the second battle where you encounter him (the one with delita).
what do you think? it could be a good idea or not?
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Post by: Zozma on March 06, 2009, 04:17:54 PM
well there is currently no more menu sprite space. but zalmo's skills will be too good to let him join. hes going to have an upgrade to his "white-aid" skillset which will include magic barrier, esunaga, and the versions of the oracle skills that he can actually use. i already know that he LOVES casting mbarrier and will usually try to use that instead of doing anything else... well it will be interesting anyway.
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Post by: philsov on March 06, 2009, 04:19:43 PM
Just make Holy Priest not immune to knockback.

*cough*
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Post by: Zozma on March 06, 2009, 04:28:11 PM
lol no kidding
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Post by: Smitson on March 14, 2009, 02:46:37 AM
I hate him. I wish he was never in the game, NPC or playable character.
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Post by: Zozma on March 14, 2009, 02:49:57 AM
well i guess someone had to be the one to brand ramza a heretic officially tho he doesn't seem 100% crucial to the story, i suppose someone else could easily fill that spot. but i hadn't planned on changing that so far.
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Post by: Dome on March 14, 2009, 07:54:35 AM
I always tought that it could be a PC...
He doesn't know about lucavi, is just a puppet in the church hand...
Or i remember wrong?
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Post by: Smitson on March 15, 2009, 05:50:29 PM
Quote from: "Dome"
I always tought that it could be a PC...
He doesn't know about lucavi, is just a puppet in the church hand...
Or i remember wrong?


Nope you're right...

I don't see a need to make him playable though
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Post by: Zozma on March 16, 2009, 03:56:03 AM
hes one of those, caught in the crossfire... devoted to the church he so believes in he is mislead and it costs him his life.
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: Zozma on June 13, 2010, 12:33:18 AM
Hmm, hes a butt ugly character... perhaps he could be completely replaced with one of my new characters as someone you get after the fight at the church, which could then be re-vamped completely to be a much more epic battle.
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 13, 2010, 02:01:48 AM
That would be nice.
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: Zozma on June 13, 2010, 02:05:26 AM
but whoooo..... you've seen my cast of special characters.. hmmmm
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 13, 2010, 02:11:33 AM
Hmm....Are all the special characters been used? Is there any left for this spot?
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: Zozma on June 13, 2010, 02:31:09 AM
Candidates:

Sorceress Teitra [a guest thru most of chapter 1 and 2 story battles in chapter 4]
Sniper Melodia [3 story battles and a DD random]
Divine Knight Meliadoul [unused for story battles]
Valkyrie Monica [2 story battles]
Arch Knight Ignis (recruitable) [appears in 3 story battles already]
Cross Knight Golagros
Paladin Beatrix (recruitable) [Hasnt been used yet]
Brawler Tamara [Hasnt been used yet]
Arch Witch Balmafula (recruitable) [Wasn't she originally hired by the church to spy on Delita?]
Terror Knight Miang [2 story battles chapter 2 and 4]

The best candidate in my opinion would be Beatrix as I have not managed to find a decent spot to include her in the game so far
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 13, 2010, 02:47:22 AM
Ooo....Yes!! Beatrix!! That battle would be epic!! DO IT!!
xD
But I hope that battle would be hard as its Beatrix. Make it that we may (high rate) lose if the strategy did not plan properly and execute accordingly.
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: Zozma on June 13, 2010, 02:51:12 AM
I would imagine so!

shes the 3rd of 3 spellblade types in the game

Shock
Thunder Slash
Stock Break
Climhazzard (AoE2)
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Plus shell have white magic secondary (ill probably give her short charge or non charge for those)
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 13, 2010, 02:56:10 AM
Yes, make it hard but not too hard till impossible to win. Just hard enough for us to lose the battle or for us to lose something in exchange of her; something that's as valueable as her.
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: Kagebunji on June 14, 2010, 06:51:45 PM
Beatrix is awesome, will she have exclusive weapon on her?
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: Zozma on June 14, 2010, 09:25:38 PM
Save the Queen

if you all recall most weapons are rare, StQ is one of a kind, the only knight sword that isnt one of a kind is the defender

and back gate of Lezalia is kinda early for a unit to have a Save the Queen, so just imagine how raped your gonna be if your not careful lol
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 15, 2010, 12:56:09 AM
Do you think sacrificing one of the great party member (special characters) for the exchange of Beatrix would make the battle more interesting and challenging? And this battle, the exchange of Beatrix with another great special character will affect and change the aftermath, the course and the outcome in the future battles and stories, perhaps? Making the player to make the choice wisely.
Is it possible?
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: Zozma on June 15, 2010, 01:21:12 AM
possible, but not with my current plans to complete the patch for story battles only and not the events themselves

the original plans for alternate characters was this:
Choose Boco or get Gaffy later
Choose Miluda or get Monica later

however as things stand, you wont get gaffy or monica
you will get beatrix upon defeating her the second time however
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 15, 2010, 05:13:42 AM
Ah, I see. So, we're going to fight her two times? Hmm...So, are we going to lose any special member in obtaining Beatrix?
Also, if we will get her on the second battle, then about the first battle, she'll teleport away when she lose or she win, just like FF9?
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: Zozma on June 15, 2010, 08:59:55 AM
theres no way to make her win without triggering a game over, at least no method thats worth the time working on. so no, she will be the one to teleport away just like zalmo does
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 15, 2010, 11:28:06 AM
I see. Alright then.
Erm....What about "losing party member"? You mentioned,
Quote from: "Zozma"
however as things stand, you wont get gaffy or monica
you will get beatrix upon defeating her the second time however
; meaning we will lose either Gafgarion or Monica after obtain Beatrix?
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: Zozma on June 15, 2010, 07:28:53 PM
not as a result of getting beatrix, no. only because theres no event instruction set to allow or not allow you to get gaffy or monica.

there is no sacrifice for obtaining beatrix, you just have to survive :)
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: LastingDawn on June 15, 2010, 08:13:54 PM
Quote from: "jimmyjw88"
Do you think sacrificing one of the great party member (special characters) for the exchange of Beatrix would make the battle more interesting and challenging? And this battle, the exchange of Beatrix with another great special character will affect and change the aftermath, the course and the outcome in the future battles and stories, perhaps? Making the player to make the choice wisely.
Is it possible?

Indeed it is. I was wondering Zozma, how many of the Elemental Guardians join you by the point you fight Beatrix the second time? I would almost say that those four are necessary to get Beatrix to join your group, otherwise Delita and Ramza just kill her.


EDIT: Zozma, the way to prevent getting Gafgarion is relatively simple. Do you recall that Algus quip at the end of Chapter 1? One decision makes it that Algus berates Ramza for ignoring Algus when it mattered, the other was to rescue him, which Algus's comeback is really weak. If you tie that instruction into Boco's rescue and have Gafgarion's change of heart be not having that  switched, it is fully possible.
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: Zozma on June 15, 2010, 08:25:37 PM
My only problem LD is that i am not curretnly working on events and i might not... i recall the instruction things but i dont know exactly how to execute them.

Also, is the fight at the church outside of town before or after Germinas peak? you get the last element at germinas but that can be changed, if germinas is after that fight that would mean that currently you only have Lavian and Deis
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However, what i originally wanted to do was make it so that in order to recruit the next element, you had to have recruited the one before that. If, for example, you dont recruit lavian and set the flag then Deis will not appear as a guest at Yuguo woods. Then without recruiting Deis,  you dont get Gin, etc
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My original idea was that with all the choices you make in the game, you end up with a certain set of 16 specials.
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Btw, with the introduction of Beatrix into Lezalia back gate, ill also introduce the first generic Clerics (which uses the "gretchen" sprite aka 20yo woman. Her troops will all be females as well
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 16, 2010, 05:50:32 AM
Interesting. So in the end of the game, we will not get the same sets of special characters?
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: Zozma on June 16, 2010, 05:52:58 AM
nope, one way or another, you will have to kick some out for others as you have access to more specials than you have space for
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 16, 2010, 06:07:18 AM
Ah, so we have to choose ourselves on kicking out which special characters for other special to get in. Hmm
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: Zozma on June 16, 2010, 07:17:46 AM
thats pretty much how it is as it stands right now, you make your own choices as the time comes.

if you like collecting special units well then, ive left absolutely no room for generics by mid chapter 4
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 16, 2010, 11:12:58 AM
So, meaning we may have all the specials by throwing away all the generics?
If that's so, then too bad.
I was hoping that we have to sacrifice some specials; one or two perhaps. ^^
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: Kagebunji on June 16, 2010, 11:35:19 AM
No, special characters exceed the amount of characters you can have in your party. Like Zoz said, you cannot have all the special characters in your party at once, at least two playthroughs are required to have them all.
Title: Re: What about Zalmo?
Post by: jimmyjw88 on June 16, 2010, 12:43:52 PM
Ah, well, that's better. Make choice on which to keep and which to kick.