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Title: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: DaHammerCrush on October 02, 2015, 10:36:36 am
While we do not expect to get a positive answer from the devs in advance of the reveal in the game we can all speculate and talk about who would be cool to see, or who makes some sort of sense in this role. We know its definitely Raiden anyway because Elric has such deep affection for that guy, but lets all have a little fun guessing and when we do find out in the game the one that got it right (if anyone does) will have bragging rights.

My first guess was the original Boss for MGS3 - it was confirmed as wrong so guess #2 is Genesis from Crisis Core (He would have access to Materia and would have a desire to lead the troops against Sephi)

-Crush

Edit: Meant to say an affirmative answer, using the word positive up there makes it sound like I'm complaining.

Don't double post to make a correction. -Toshiko
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: KingUrameshi on October 02, 2015, 01:00:13 pm
I think the cloaked stranger is Mr. Green in the ballroom with the candlestick. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Bounty Hunter Lani on October 02, 2015, 02:55:19 pm
I think the Cloaked Stranger is either Gabranth, Basch, Batman, Liquid Snake, Captain America, Yuna, a giant stalk of corn, He Who Walks Behind The Rows, or Elric himself.

Or Elric and co. are throwing us off, and it's Tseng after Crisis Core.  :shock:

Or is it Kefka toying with the heroes...?  :?

Or Cecil of Final Fantasy IV? Or Golbez?
...Golbez would be bigger though, right?  :|

Well it could be Hope or Lightning, because I'm sure Elric wouldn't mind writing them off as soon as they reveal themselves...  :mrgreen:

It still could be a Star Ocean character as well, but I've never played a single one... Hmm...

I give up if none of these guesses are it, because I'd never get it otherwise  :wark: :wark: :wark: :wark: :wark:
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on October 02, 2015, 02:58:09 pm
Not a single one has even been close.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Jumza on October 02, 2015, 03:16:26 pm
Quote from: KingUrameshi on October 02, 2015, 01:00:13 pm
I think the cloaked stranger is Mr. Green in the ballroom with the candlestick. :mrgreen:


Lol I hope so :P

Oh wait, I know who it is. Never mind (muahahaha)

Elric you're giving so many hints! They might narrow it down eventually :P
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on October 02, 2015, 03:19:04 pm
Quote from: Jumza on October 02, 2015, 03:16:26 pm
Elric you're giving so many hints! They might narrow it down eventually :P


LOL, you've -SEEN- the stuff they've been guessing. You already know they won't guess it correctly :P
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Bounty Hunter Lani on October 02, 2015, 06:51:55 pm
I know I said I'd give up, but I have a new batch of guesses.  ;)

Here goes:

Ezio, Roxas, Axel, A Final Fantasy IV Eidolon, Garnet, another Cloud, Vergil, Dante's sister, Colonel Sanders, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Adam Sandler, Jumza, a walking baby Behemoth, Biblos, Boco, Delita, Sparda, Glenn Quagmire, possibly someone from The Legend of Dragoon,  One of those bean people from Team Buddies, Beowulf, Alma, Alma, Alma, Alma, Ash of Vandal Hearts, T.G. Cid, or Wesker.

I hope some of these are remotely close this time...
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Angel on October 02, 2015, 07:21:20 pm
Not a one. :D
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on October 02, 2015, 10:24:02 pm
You've somehow gotten further away from the not even close you were before... and even that wasn't even close. These are literally just random names thrown out O_o

Clutching at straws is not your friend.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Bounty Hunter Lani on October 02, 2015, 10:57:53 pm
Then my final guesses until Monday are...

Sephiroth, a talking raccoon, Jeff the Killer, an original character, a moogle, Zack, Aeris, Beatrix, Rufus Shinra, Terra of Kingdom Hearts, Terra of FF6, or... the Chupacabra? :welcome: :welcome:
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on October 02, 2015, 11:04:39 pm
O_o

Sephiroth is already in the game, as are flashes of Zack and Aeris and it's also well known that Jeff the Killer stars in a mark in Ch2. So how are these even guesses?

Also, to hell with Kingdom Hearts and everything it stands for.

Rufus is FF7 and it's been said there won't be any further characters from the same game than what you've already seen asside from possible future bosses.

It is not a mexican goat killer or big foot.

It is not Rocket.

It is not a fox

It is not in a box

these are all incorrect, Sam I am,

no go eat some green eggs and ham...



I won't post in this thread anymore, since these guesses are just getting silly at this point...

However, you all may continue to list any name that comes to the top of your head. (Still fairly confident that even still, no one will get it.)
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Angel on October 03, 2015, 07:06:03 am
I still wanted it to be a fox, but I may be biased. :I
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: DaHammerCrush on October 03, 2015, 11:12:34 am
Eva - Dante's Mom
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: KingUrameshi on October 03, 2015, 01:21:43 pm
Quote from: Elric on October 02, 2015, 11:04:39 pm

Also, to hell with Kingdom Hearts and everything it stands for.



THANK YOU!!
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Nyzer on October 03, 2015, 07:34:50 pm
Quote from: KingUrameshi on October 03, 2015, 01:21:43 pm
THANK YOU!!


Well, screw you guys then.

Also yeah, thirty random names aren't really worth commenting on. Best to focus on characters it actually could be, y'know? And maybe talk about why your choice would be justified. That's something that can spark some discussion.

But if you want a hint, I guess I can say [Deleted by Elric]
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: KingUrameshi on October 03, 2015, 11:40:20 pm
Waaaaaaaahhhhhhh! :cry:

Keep your damned magic kingdom out of my Final Fantasy. We are destroyers of worlds not huggers of sheep.

Bolt 2, Fire 2, Ice 2... get on the airship and deal the damn cards already!

THIS IS NOT REESE'S PEANUT BUTTER CUPS!
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on October 04, 2015, 01:27:22 am
I just never understood the appeal.  The things they did with the characters of Squall, Cloud and Sephiroth (and whoever else) was just wrong, and completely out of character.

Granted Jot5 revolves around characters from other games, but we actually try to play on the plot of those games as well as the personality those games gave those characters, and when we can avoid it, we don't break canon.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Nyzer on October 04, 2015, 01:39:45 am
They're AU versions of the FF characters, so yeah, they're  a bit different. But you only tried the bad one; it was way more fun going into the series from the first PS & GBA games back when they were current.

Also, "destroyers of worlds"? That's  literally the entire conflict in KH1. The final world takes place in the amalgamation of destroyed worlds that's been partly phased into the Realm of Darkness. And the protagonist essentially commits suicide in the penultimate world.

I won't  deny that KH2 went HARD in the Disney direction but honestly KH1 almost had a deeper and darker plot than FF5. (A villain named Ex-Death? Really? :P)
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Hyraldelita on October 04, 2015, 04:12:46 pm
Ok then.. i did try to guess some names if other posts...

the point is ,"if someone get the right one would Elric say , yea it's him? that would spoil the surprise i guess, so even if someone do find the right char, i doubt he would tell us."

So after this i still want to try to guess for when the patch come out, and if we can find that guy identity in the part 2 of jot5.

So:

Let's try guess seriously.

It has been said, char from the same game, will not be added if not as just npc, or probably boss enemy like sephiroth and ganondorf.

So we don't really know how sephiroth was able to follow cloud but, ganondorf, came with the same machina as Zelda did.

Metal gear bad guys, i really doubt it could be, plus that guy look like an ally. But he didn't give the stone to Dante to trnansform, he gave it to Link, so we don't really kno the reason why he did it.

So it might be related to link? i don't think so. since there are ganondorf and Zelda already..

related to Snake? i don't think either.

Related to dante? Maybe.. but how did they reached that place , and what should they repent from FFT storyline that end up becoming JOT5?

So i guess it's not related to dante either...

Cloud it can't be, too many char from FF7 otherwise.

So THE ONLY options left, it should be someone related to Ramza.

But most of the character who would repent, are or DEAD, or they payed back the debit to Ramza by following him in battle, like Meliadoul did.

we know all the shrine knights are dead, and none of them ever had anything to repent for, since they were all evil except for Wiegraf, but he died as velius so i doubt it can be him either. 

I'm trying to go for exclusion, and see if someone will be left at the end, which could actually be the cloacked guy.

Ovelia has been stabbed by Delita but did the game actually tell us that she's dead? Delita got stabbed too but he lives.

So it could be Ovelia, that want to be helpfull since she was completely useless in FFT and never helped anyone for real.

Balmafula is another one i suspect but honestly i don't see any reason why she should know so many things and help Link and she have nothing to repent for in my opinion, and for some reason i think the cloacked guy is actually a Girl =O

So my first suspect is actually Ovelia =O

Dycedarg/Zalbag are dead..

Algus same.

Beowulf/reis helped Ramza in his journey so .. even if they would still repay some kind of debt, i still doubt they would be chosen for that role.

All zodiac braves died, Elibidis included..

Rafa/Malak, helped Ramza like beowulf/Reis, so no debt to repay either.

Orlandu would never be it would be ridiculus, and he has no reason to do so.

The only twistplot it could be, is that the cloacked npc is some undead of the bad guys who repented. And why and how , only the ones who did Jot5 know it.

But as for reasoning , and people who could still be alive and need to repent they're uselessness , i can think only about Ovelia.

Still , as far as i know.. good character, NEVER use teleport to appear and disappear in FFT..



Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Angel on October 04, 2015, 04:46:44 pm
Quote from: nyzer on October 04, 2015, 01:39:45 amI won't  deny that KH2 went HARD in the Disney direction but honestly KH1 almost had a deeper and darker plot than FF5. (A villain named Ex-Death? Really? :P)

Well, 'Ex-Death' was a mistranslation of 'Exodus', so there's that. Also, part of why I love FFV so much is because it doesn't take itself seriously, at all. Not that it should be any different for the game that gave us Gilgamesh.

Kingdom Hearts is more, "we should do something even deeper and more convoluted than the Metal Gear Solid series, but we need to make it cuter and be sure we write out every plot point while on shrooms and salvia." Which also explains perfectly their bizarre titles like 358/2 Days, Birth by Sleep, χ, etc.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: DaHammerCrush on October 04, 2015, 09:33:32 pm
@Hyraldelita totally don't want Elric to affirm any of these answers, we all want to play it out and see who got it when the re-release comes out, but that said I am bummed that the hit got nerfed before I could get that one... :)

I've had 2 names come to me in the last few days while playing through. This first one fits but I'm 99% sure that its not him and that is Urahara Kisuke. He teeters between the scientific and the fantastic, his powers would make for awesome FFT adaptations, he would be a behind the scenes type of puppeteer, and is an advocate for the good guys, but since its supposed to be a video game character first and Urahara is an Anime character first.

Second idea has some legs... I think, or at least it would be cool and that's Athena. I figure that all of the characters so far are from either a classic RPG or a third person action RPG. in the same vein of DMC is GOW and the main benefactor of Kratos is Athena. She's a god so in some way, shape or form would have access to arcane knowledge. She could fit and might hearken the emergence of another great player in the from of Kratos.

I have a few other ides but I'm not going to drop a billion guesses in one post ;)

-Crush

P.S. if that person is not revealed in Ch. 2 you're officially trolling all of us
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on October 04, 2015, 11:06:13 pm
Quote from: DaHammerCrush
P.S. if that person is not revealed in Ch. 2 you're officially trolling all of us


Where was there ever indication or hint that the reveal would be in chapter 2??
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Nyzer on October 04, 2015, 11:49:25 pm
Yeah, the convolution got pretty insane there, Toshiko. There's a few good reasons I stopped liking the series so much after 2.  But 1 is still a wonderful standalone game.
And I agree about liking FFV for not taking  itself seriously.

@Crush
Elric's right. The CS only reveals their identity in a post-credits scene at the very end of the game. It's  Raiden from after MGS4, repenting for stealing Snake's spotlight during 2. ;)
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: DaHammerCrush on October 05, 2015, 01:00:16 am
I kinda saw that coming for a bit, and its still definitely Raiden he's the best.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on October 05, 2015, 01:16:42 am
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53561892/Naked-Raiden-and-Snake-MGS2.png)
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Hyraldelita on October 05, 2015, 10:39:02 am
hahaaha i know i know they would never say it, but i just wanted to have a written proof, if i get the right char xD

and Elric LOL for that piture hahahahahah
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: DaHammerCrush on October 05, 2015, 12:51:08 pm
Ezio - Desmond Miles or Lara Croft Either would be awesome :)

Looks like we might be guessing for a few years if this doesn't get revealed till CH. 3+

HAHAHA!!!
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Hyraldelita on October 14, 2015, 04:45:18 am
and then we will find out they didn't know who the cloacked stranger is, untill we gave them suggestions XD ahaha
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on October 14, 2015, 04:52:26 am
Quote from: Hyraldelita on October 14, 2015, 04:45:18 am
and then we will find out they didn't know who the cloacked stranger is, untill we gave them suggestions XD ahaha


HAHA, I was wondering when someone would suggest this.

While this is not true, I will say that the Cloaked Stranger was originally someone else, and was then changed later on due to some comments we received (which no longer exist, cuz I'm a sneaky bastard).
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Hyraldelita on October 23, 2015, 03:08:25 am
lol     While this is not true <---- off course is not XD

i just said it as a joke but that would have been funny if you still had to decide since maybe we'll find out in chapter 4 or even in post game in the ending or as a sidequest XD you never know u_u
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on October 24, 2015, 02:25:21 pm
Quote from: Hyraldelita on October 23, 2015, 03:08:25 am
XD you never know u_u


Yes I do :P
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: DaHammerCrush on October 30, 2015, 06:26:41 pm
Never Reveal it even in the ending sequence, just leave it hanging.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: KingUrameshi on November 01, 2015, 02:29:00 pm
Quote from: DaHammerCrush on October 30, 2015, 06:26:41 pm
Never Reveal it even in the ending sequence, just leave it hanging.


Thats what I'm talkin about. People will be talking about it for years.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Zyrku on November 01, 2015, 05:51:32 pm
Vergil? XD
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on November 02, 2015, 08:24:00 pm
Nope.avi
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Jumza on November 02, 2015, 08:36:57 pm
Nope.xml

EDIT: Alternatively, Nope.mp4, Nope.pptx and Nope.rar
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Xifanie on November 03, 2015, 08:57:40 am
Well... it's out. It's been fun guys, but now you don't have to guess anymore.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Bonesy on November 03, 2015, 08:53:40 pm
*shakes fist*

WEEGIEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Zyrku on November 11, 2015, 06:33:37 pm
Maybe the Cloaked Stranger is the one who brought Dante, Snake, Link and Cloud to Ivalice. If we stick with that we may discover who this being is xD
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: silentkaster on December 04, 2015, 05:59:01 pm
Quote from: Xifanie on November 03, 2015, 08:57:40 am
Well... it's out. It's been fun guys, but now you don't have to guess anymore.


CD-I Luigi???

Too obvious...

It must be...


(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/b/b5/KingPissed.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20100906021037)

MAH BOY!


Squadalah!

Edit: My real guess is Impa or Zelda based on what I've seen, actually.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on December 04, 2015, 08:27:17 pm
But, Zelda is in Ch1 :o That wouldn't make a lot of sense lol
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Pandemoniu on December 05, 2015, 11:25:05 am
Quote from: Elric on December 04, 2015, 08:27:17 pm
But, Zelda is in Ch1 :o That wouldn't make a lot of sense lol


In fact, aren't the stranger and Zelda on screen together at one point, albeit temporarily?
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: KingUrameshi on December 06, 2015, 05:25:31 pm
I know who the Cloaked Stranger is:

:Insert Rick Roll Here:

Let that be the end of it.  :cool:

And also for anyone who has never;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrDV6VksSRU

Edit: Double posting in less than ten minutes? Shame on you. -Toshiko
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Tempest on June 03, 2016, 10:09:58 pm
I would have to say the Cloaked stranger is an original FFT character whom people think is dead, or out of the picture. I dont think it is Orlandu. I would probably be able to narrow it down better if i had actually played JOT5 xD, once i play the re release of chapter 1 i will give this some serious thought :p
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Guru on June 03, 2016, 10:31:32 pm
Quote from: Tempest on June 03, 2016, 10:09:58 pm
I would have to say the Cloaked stranger is an original FFT character whom people think is dead, or out of the picture. I dont think it is Orlandu. I would probably be able to narrow it down better if i had actually played JOT5 xD, once i play the re release of chapter 1 i will give this some serious thought :p


Ha I forgot how funny this section was I had to read it again! It's a talking racoon, no a stalk of corn haha. I did have a couple of guesses I was thinking the same thing about someone from FFT we thought was dead. I'm surprised no one guessed him, but I was thinking it was the Gaffman. Would be a perfect fit, gaff has tons to repent for and would be an awesome character to bring back.

Either that or the CS could be from cloud or dante's world, maybe rufus? That theory has all sorts of holes in it though (all of which could be filled), the main one being how did rufus get to Ivalice in the first place.

I also like the idea that the cloaked stranger is the one who brought the 5 MCs to Ivalice(which is a really good possibility IMO), but this leaves so many options that it's not even worth it for me to guess( I mean shit he/she could be from ANY game at that point).
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on June 03, 2016, 10:39:54 pm
Well well well, we actually got some good guesses this time around :P

Gafgarion and Orlandu are both pretty unique guesses, however incorrect (since Gafs crystal popped in Vanilla).

I will also say that the CS is neither from Cloud or Dante's world

But that's probably the last bit of info I will give. I mean honestly I don't expect anyone to ever guess it, and if they did, they would be hard pressed to explain the logic behind it without knowing the full story of Jot5, however Guru -may- be onto something with that last bit he said there ;)
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: HebrewToYou on June 03, 2016, 11:58:29 pm
My thought was always with Olan Durai - he has the skillset built around astrology and time manipulation. And, based on the timeline of the story thus far, I don't think he has been burned at the stake yet by the Church of Glabados.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Nyzer on June 04, 2016, 03:01:54 am
QuoteGafs crystal popped in Vanilla


And around these parts, that's deader than dead. Hell, it's so dead that I don't even think you can set up a Cure: Crystal spell in the Patcher. When you're so dead that the game can't even be modded to restore you to life, I think you're beyond any dramatic returns in the sequel. ;) Bet that Petrify immunity doesn't seem like such a good idea for Gaffy in hindsight, huh?
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Tempest on June 04, 2016, 11:42:59 am
I have two guesses, having said earlier that i do not think it is Orlandu.  its either Zalbaag (never crystalized but was brought back as a vampire, perhaps he wasn't completely written out because of those happenings. I feel like the Cloaked Stranger has to have some sort of motive in wanting to assist the 5 and has some connection to Ramza outside of being responsible for bringing the 5 together.

If i am wrong it has to be a divine or mystical character from the FF series. If that is taken into consideration the prime suspect would be one who looks out for the stability of the realms and has the power to bring the 5 together. I would have to guess that this person is Cosmos, whom is regarded as a goddess of harmony. I have a hard time seeing anybody else having the ability and knowledge of other realms to bring these warriors together.

I actually agree it could very well be Olan Durai, with his skill set it would make complete sense. And his being hunted by the church for the Durai papers would compliment the reason why he does not show his face.

Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Nyzer on June 04, 2016, 01:37:38 pm
QuoteIf i am wrong it has to be a divine or mystical character from the FF series. If that is taken into consideration the prime suspect would be one who looks out for the stability of the realms and has the power to bring the 5 together. I would have to guess that this person is Cosmos, whom is regarded as a goddess of harmony. I have a hard time seeing anybody else having the ability and knowledge of other realms to bring these warriors together.


You're assuming that the force responsible for that event was a benevolent one! Remember that even though the Five were brought together, the four otherworlders were stripped of all weapons, dropped outside a locked castle, and immediately attacked by a pack of monsters. If that event was deliberate... how much of it was deliberate? ;)
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Tempest on June 04, 2016, 02:10:16 pm
Deliberate or not, those monsters quite possibly would have shown up regardless and perhaps the help was needed. With the Zodiac stones and other magics already available in the series it of course is possible with in game lore to summon those 4. However given the specific people who were taken; who are heroes in their own individual worlds... leads me to believe it was done by somebody whos interests lie in the balance of power and peace of the realm. Those heroes taken from their homes without their weaponry does imply a less than benevolent power in the works, however that could have been intentional as well. It is possible they needed to struggle and become stronger to face the challenges that were yet to come. It could be well written in many different ways, its hard to decipher at this point which route was taken, but its so much fun to try and guess :)
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on June 04, 2016, 02:13:52 pm
Nice :D
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Guru on June 05, 2016, 12:08:44 am
QuoteBut that's probably the last bit of info I will give. I mean honestly I don't expect anyone to ever guess it, and if they did, they would be hard pressed to explain the logic behind it without knowing the full story of Jot5, however Guru -may- be onto something with that last bit he said there ;)


Hehe way to give a hint, while at the same time adding many more questions  :mrgreen: I'll have to give this some more thought before the next guess lol (after some much needed sleep).

I do agree with Tempest, and I'm leaning more toward the benevolent side as well. Especially from some of the scenes we get with the CS. Elric is awfully confident we won't guess it so I'd say it's a good possibility it's from a different game all together, but what is his/her connection with Ivalice? Hmm.....
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Bonesy on June 05, 2016, 12:36:25 am
is the cloaked stranger beavis or butthead or three midgets in a cloak
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Nyzer on June 05, 2016, 01:43:59 am
Quoteis the cloaked stranger beavis or butthead


dude what

QuoteYou've somehow gotten further away from the not even close you were before... and even that wasn't even close. These are literally just random names thrown out O_o
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Xifanie on June 05, 2016, 10:39:04 am
This is Bonesy. He was serious.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Bonesy on June 05, 2016, 11:25:56 am
the real cloaked stranger was the friends we made along the way
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on June 05, 2016, 08:15:59 pm
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53561892/bb21d9c4833d18db836e0c81a3961baf.jpg)
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Tempest on June 06, 2016, 10:21:35 am
Best guess so far - 3 midgets in a cloak.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: DaHammerCrush on June 10, 2016, 03:49:45 pm
Remedi/Lil-Grim
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on June 10, 2016, 07:23:21 pm
I doubt it, mostly because I don't even know who those people are O_o
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Nyzer on June 10, 2016, 09:51:49 pm
The final boss of FFTA.

It'd be pretty tough to justify featuring Queen Remedi in here, though, considering how crucial she was to the pocket universe of pseudo-Ivalice. Her presence in this part of time of real Ivalice would functionally mean that FFTA's pseudo-Ivalice would immediately collapse.
Not to mention that the whole point of FFTA's storyline was to stop Mewt and all the rest from just using the Grimoire to escape reality instead of actually facing their problems and growing from it. We know from FFTA2 that Mewt didn't end up backsliding; he's a functional adult with a job by then. Anyone who played FFTA saw what living in pseudo-Ivalice did to Mewt in the first place - he went from an early teenager or preteen to someone with the emotional maturity of a five-year-old until Marche forced him out. I don't doubt that they still used the book after that point, and Mewt even heavily implies that at least he'd done so at the end of FFTA2, but it wouldn't have been for the purpose of escaping reality. They would have traveled to the real Ivalice of their time, as Luso did, instead of recreating a pocket universe based on it. And without that, Remedi wouldn't have reappeared.

Out of any character from FFTA, or, hell, any game ever really, that might have appeared in Jot5, Remedi is dead last. Even a living, non-alternate Aerith would make more sense than Remedi; it'd just require time travel and a memory wipe. Having Remedi appear would literally require tearing apart the world of FFTA.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Plan C on June 10, 2016, 10:45:23 pm
wow, thats pretty deep stuff lol
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Tempest on June 10, 2016, 10:50:35 pm
Quote from: nyzer on June 10, 2016, 09:51:49 pm
The final boss of FFTA.

It'd be pretty tough to justify featuring Queen Remedi in here, though, considering how crucial she was to the pocket universe of pseudo-Ivalice. Her presence in this part of time of real Ivalice would functionally mean that FFTA's pseudo-Ivalice would immediately collapse.
Not to mention that the whole point of FFTA's storyline was to stop Mewt and all the rest from just using the Grimoire to escape reality instead of actually facing their problems and growing from it. We know from FFTA2 that Mewt didn't end up backsliding; he's a functional adult with a job by then. Anyone who played FFTA saw what living in pseudo-Ivalice did to Mewt in the first place - he went from an early teenager or preteen to someone with the emotional maturity of a five-year-old until Marche forced him out. I don't doubt that they still used the book after that point, and Mewt even heavily implies that at least he'd done so at the end of FFTA2, but it wouldn't have been for the purpose of escaping reality. They would have traveled to the real Ivalice of their time, as Luso did, instead of recreating a pocket universe based on it. And without that, Remedi wouldn't have reappeared.

Out of any character from FFTA, or, hell, any game ever really, that might have appeared in Jot5, Remedi is dead last. Even a living, non-alternate Aerith would make more sense than Remedi; it'd just require time travel and a memory wipe. Having Remedi appear would literally require tearing apart the world of FFTA.


dayummmm. :o

Well said though.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Nyzer on June 10, 2016, 11:01:51 pm
Quotewow, thats pretty deep stuff lol


Yeah, it's why Luso as the viewpoint character for FFTA2 was so disappointing. FFTA's storyline might not have been anywhere near the depth of FFT's, but FFTA was very definitely aimed at a younger audience, and even then it was surprisingly deep for that mark. There wasn't even a major conflict of any kind in pseudo-Ivalice until Marche deliberately caused one. Luso, on the other hand, had so little character development or direct impact on the plot that he might as well have been a generic. He was less important to the story than mute protagonists from NES era games.  :roll:  :(

(Yeah, he was the bearer of the Grimoire, but it was the presence of the Grimoire that drove the plot for those points, not Luso himself. Compare that to Frodo/Sam/Gollum of LotR; those guys were fucking critical to the plot.)
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: DaHammerCrush on June 14, 2016, 10:07:09 am
Quote from: nyzer on June 10, 2016, 09:51:49 pm
The final boss of FFTA.

It'd be pretty tough to justify featuring Queen Remedi in here, though, considering how crucial she was to the pocket universe of pseudo-Ivalice. Her presence in this part of time of real Ivalice would functionally mean that FFTA's pseudo-Ivalice would immediately collapse.
Not to mention that the whole point of FFTA's storyline was to stop Mewt and all the rest from just using the Grimoire to escape reality instead of actually facing their problems and growing from it. We know from FFTA2 that Mewt didn't end up backsliding; he's a functional adult with a job by then. Anyone who played FFTA saw what living in pseudo-Ivalice did to Mewt in the first place - he went from an early teenager or preteen to someone with the emotional maturity of a five-year-old until Marche forced him out. I don't doubt that they still used the book after that point, and Mewt even heavily implies that at least he'd done so at the end of FFTA2, but it wouldn't have been for the purpose of escaping reality. They would have traveled to the real Ivalice of their time, as Luso did, instead of recreating a pocket universe based on it. And without that, Remedi wouldn't have reappeared.

Out of any character from FFTA, or, hell, any game ever really, that might have appeared in Jot5, Remedi is dead last. Even a living, non-alternate Aerith would make more sense than Remedi; it'd just require time travel and a memory wipe. Having Remedi appear would literally require tearing apart the world of FFTA.


Since its obvi not her I won't get into a philosophical discussion about a fantasy video game except to say that If the author wanted this to "happen" they could. #magic
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Nyzer on June 14, 2016, 12:24:18 pm
Not when we're sticking as close to canon as we are. GhostMomRemedi only existed for a very fixed time span, and even then only as an extension of Mewt's will driven by his massive unresolved issues about her death until Marche whipped him and his father into shape. At no point would she have ever left Pocket Ivalice of her own will. And her unwillingly leaving Pocket Ivalice would have shattered Mewt's mind, as well as the entire pocket universe.

Then there's the ending of FFTA: The fake life Mewt gave his father, Cid, set him up as a confident leader of the country's Judges, which meant that he actually had some goddamn backbone once he got his real memories back, and realized that his teenage son reverting to a super clingy, often-crying child who wouldn't leave his mom probably wasn't a good thing. He and Marche were able to help Mewt work through his loss issues and let go of Pocket Ivalice and GhostMom. I mean, Mewt was watching as Marche literally killed GhostMom, all while Cid helped by acting as Judge. There's no way Mewt would have ever summoned her again. Given how closely she's tied to him, specifically, no one else would have summoned her either. Except Cid, maybe, and given that he was an active participant in the fight that killed her I... strongly doubt it.

I mean, yeah, I suppose we could have used her if we'd really wanted to, but given the circumstances of her limited "life"...

QuoteOut of any character from FFTA, or, hell, any game ever really, that might have appeared in Jot5, Remedi is dead last.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Tempest on June 15, 2016, 05:49:42 pm
I paid extremely close attention to every detail leading to the 5 being "summoned" into Ivalice. I was expecting to find a hint or clue pointing in the direction of who was responsible. It seems you all did an excellent job of keeping it open ended and without foreshadowing any specific person. Every single thing down the effects used when each person was teleported was unrelated, the dark effect used to teleport cloud was the one that grabbed my attention the most - but i ruled out any relevance to that effect as i compared it to the other 3. The effects in my eyes simply apply differently to each characters lore and what makes sense.

In short i admit defeat, as any guess i have would be a blind one. You all did a great job creating such a solid mystery. Maybe when i play further in some of the words spoken by the Cloaked stranger will give me something to go off of. But i suspected of any part of chapter 1 the introduction of each character into a new world would be the place to keep an eye on for hints.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: rabidwolfie on June 16, 2016, 10:52:33 pm
I think I want to make a guess.

The Cloaked Stranger is Balbanes, he has been resurrected(or is a ghost) and brought all 5 of them together to defeat some massive evil. During chapter 2 he will appear and join the party for 3-4 story battles but will only be useable in those story battles. He will then start teaching ramza the beginning steps of becoming a heavenly knight. Heavenly knight skills will not be learned with JP but by completing milestones etc. After said 3-4 story fights, he will be destroyed by the evil they warned him about.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Nyzer on June 16, 2016, 11:42:13 pm
QuoteDuring chapter 2 he will appear and join the party for 3-4 story battles but will only be useable in those story battles. He will then start teaching ramza the beginning steps of becoming a heavenly knight. Heavenly knight skills will not be learned with JP but by completing milestones etc. After said 3-4 story fights, he will be destroyed by the evil they warned him about.


That's an... oddly specific guess.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on June 17, 2016, 12:28:49 am
still incorrect though :P
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: SGFTI on June 17, 2016, 05:34:50 am
Read through the comments and my guess was wrong. (Aerith.)

So instead I'll say it's Magus from Chrono Trigger. Why? Because I like Magus from Chrono Trigger.


Edit: I also don't get the appeal of KH. I borrowed it from a friend way back when it came out, made it to the Tarzan planet before I said "Ok this is stupid, I'm done. I don't care if Sephiroth is in it, I'm done."

FYI I really, really dig Sephiroth, like a lot. I played more Ehrgeiz than is sensible. Ooh...is it someone from Ehrgeiz?
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Guru on June 17, 2016, 05:17:11 pm
Magus was badass and would be a good fit. I'm still thinking CS has a connection to Ramza somehow...but even is CS was from a different game, obviously has the power to transcend universes so probably would have known Ramza regardless. Zalbag would have been a good fit too(Always liked Zalbag too.

Maybe the CS is responsible for the great evil that is upon Ivalice now. Or responsible for making creating some kind of distortion in the Ivalice universe that allowed the great evil. Thus the need to "repent", doesn't help narrow things down much though  :roll:

How about simon?? Plenty to repent for, maybe Ramza didn't check his pulse  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Bonesy on June 17, 2016, 08:11:43 pm
the cloaked stranger is
Elric
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on June 17, 2016, 09:46:28 pm
I do not put myself into my own games.

Quote from: SGFTI on June 17, 2016, 05:34:50 am
FYI I really, really dig Sephiroth, like a lot. I played more Ehrgeiz than is sensible. Ooh...is it someone from Ehrgeiz?


<3 Ehrgeiz. I havent played that in years. But no, it's no one from there lol
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Plan C on June 17, 2016, 10:48:38 pm
Probably completely wrong since I see no motive to do anything the stranger has done but wonder what happened to Balmafula since being seen at the "funeral".
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Nyzer on June 17, 2016, 11:12:58 pm
Well, she was last seen accompanying Olan/Orran, who only has four years left before the Church burns him alive...
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Reks on June 18, 2016, 01:13:40 am
I still need to play Jot5, and just figured I'd have fun throwing out a guess

Balmafula?
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Plan C on June 18, 2016, 08:13:15 am
Quote from: nyzer on June 17, 2016, 11:12:58 pm
Well, she was last seen accompanying Olan/Orran, who only has four years left before the Church burns him alive...


Hmm maybe there might be motive to help Ramza out in some form, in order to assist Olan w/out Delita or his guard knowing about it. Who knows though lol, she is a witch afterall, I wouldn't put it past her to know about dimensional portal stones and devil triggers, but highly unlikely. She's still intriguing though.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Hyraldelita on June 24, 2016, 05:29:03 am
Im pretty sure it must be someone more misterious then balmafula. Even if she is a witch, i doubt she would have the power to summon 4 heroes from different worlds, so in my opinion it might be Someone with great powers but that for some reason he can't act by himself and need some other people to do the job for him|her
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: KingUrameshi on June 24, 2016, 07:38:51 am
I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say our author has a huge love for Devil May Cry and put my money on Vergil/Nelo Angelo. Incorporating elements of the Divine Comedy.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Tempest on June 24, 2016, 09:16:20 am
Quote from: KingUrameshi on June 24, 2016, 07:38:51 am
I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say our author has a huge love for Devil May Cry and put my money on Vergil/Nelo Angelo. Incorporating elements of the Divine Comedy.


Elric said : "I will also say that the CS is neither from Cloud or Dante's world"

I think its an FF character. what we all need to do is gather the facts, this character has some form of debt to Ramza - this character *might* have the ability to summon specific people from specific worlds - this character always shows up when you need them the most.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Xifanie on June 24, 2016, 09:18:30 am
Since we're giving hints: The character's name does not start with Q
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Tempest on June 24, 2016, 09:43:35 am
Ok so its not Quistis from FF8... excellent.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: KingUrameshi on June 24, 2016, 11:02:03 am
Quote from: Tempest on June 24, 2016, 09:16:20 am
Elric said : "I will also say that the CS is neither from Cloud or Dante's world"


Derp I read that too. This is starting to look a lot like Raiden lol. :P

I hope its not some super obscure character and it really blows my mind when it is revealed. Really looking forward to this and the delay between the chapter 1 release and the rerelease is nice to give me some time between playing Tactics. Having said that currently playing Tactics Ogre. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Tempest on June 24, 2016, 11:20:02 am
Not Quina... Not Quezacotl...
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Tempest on June 24, 2016, 03:24:38 pm
With all those numerous Q named peoples out of the picture its clear who it is.

The Cloaked Stranger is the True Ajora, the young man who was possessed by Altima at the age of 20. Having been freed from Altima's grasp due to Ramzas actions he owes Ramza a debt. Ajora while being stuck in the void for ?1,200 years? with Altima before the time of her ressurection through Alma (whos soul had become intertwined with Ajora's) - Altima shared plenty of information on Espers and the Lucavi and the devils work. Ajoras knowledge from such interaction may have given him abilities beyond that of a human, and this interaction may have given him insight to whatever crisis he is trying to prevent in JOT5. The 1,200 year lecture on magic espers and lucavi could explain his abilities. This would only be possible if Ajora's soul were able to escape the void since when Altima was defeated that is where it went. 
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on June 24, 2016, 04:04:30 pm
Lol, what? No
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Tempest on June 24, 2016, 04:06:00 pm
awww... i was so confident this time >.<
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: DaHammerCrush on June 24, 2016, 04:53:30 pm
Did anyone ever guess Meliadoul. I mean the outfit works.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: KingUrameshi on June 24, 2016, 05:10:45 pm
Meliadoul is the only one who really knew what was going down during the game (Riovannes/Elmdore) and its up to the author to tell what happened to her after the game. She was Vormav's daughter and I feel like framing Olan for Delita must not have been easy.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Nyzer on June 24, 2016, 05:48:06 pm
There's a lot about that idea that doesn't work - some of it canon, some of it ambiguous canon, but I'm just gonna point out that if Altima with help still needed the efforts of the Lucavi, the Zodiac Stones, a suitable host, a specific location, and a large amount of bloodshed to revive (and still had to fight Alma for control of the body anyway)... well, Ajora alone wouldn't have even the faintest hope of managing it himself :P

Quote from: KingUrameshi on June 24, 2016, 05:10:45 pm
Meliadoul is the only one who really knew what was going down during the game (Riovannes/Elmdore) and its up to the author to tell what happened to her after the game. She was Vormav's daughter and I feel like framing Olan for Delita must not have been easy.


... The only one? Every one of Ramza's party members is well aware of what went on, and that's not including Delita, Olan, or Balmafula. Hell, several named party members were with Ramza even before Ramza ever learned of the Lucavi to begin with. Rad, Lavian, Alicia, Boco, Mustadio, and Agrias all join before the fight with Queklain.
You speak of Meliadoul as though she wasn't there on the airship. As far as Jot5 is concerned, she was. Every joining party member was there for the battle with Altima.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: KingUrameshi on June 24, 2016, 06:10:05 pm
I was using the assumption that everyone died in the fight with Altima based on what Olan thought about Cid and the only survivors were characters not involved or might have chosen to leave Ramza's party before entering the Dead City. It was suggested that the only exit to the city might have been destroyed by Rofel. I feel Delita would have a harder time executing Olan if Cid and others were around him who knew about Zodiac Beasts and the church. That's assuming Delita had anything to do with Olans execution and others also didn't decide to leave Ivalice or something.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Nyzer on June 24, 2016, 06:35:29 pm
Quote from: KingUrameshi on June 24, 2016, 06:10:05 pm
I was using the assumption that everyone died in the fight with Altima based on what Olan thought about Cid


Ramza and Alma weren't the only ones who'd had their deaths faked, just the only ones boneheaded enough to show up at their (well, Alma's) own funeral :P

Also, Delita wasn't the one who had Olan executed. Olan went to the Clemensian Council/Prince Clemence (as neither of these are mentioned as entities in Ivalice, it's safe to assume they aren't in Ivalice) while they were in the middle of choosing a new ruler for either some other country or for the Church to throw his papers out that said "hey, most of your high ranking officials were demons, and also you falsely accused a man of heresy!" Delita wouldn't even have been involved.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Hyraldelita on June 26, 2016, 10:25:10 am
If i recall well Olan actually get killed from te church, because with that book he support the heretic. but i can't remember if the game itself say so.
But 100% sure Delita wouldn't have killed Onlan, he NEVER kill a person who is not involved with his plan or restoring peace his own way. He do kill the Orlandu copy but just to let orlandu flee with Ramza, i will always be by Delita's Side, because his action always reflect justice\revenge in my point of view, he is more a Hero then Ramza was, well more like a "more human like hero" Ramza is more the Fantasy Hero of the story.

But if the took ff7 and dante world out... and the evil guy from zelda get killed.. that leave only Snake world, but snake world is a real world with high technologies, so i don't think anything like magic would be considered normal, also i always wondered why Snake NEVER say nothing about magic in jot5 XD not even a small joke or observation!

But i really think it will be a nice surprise for everyone who the hek is this CS XD
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Nyzer on June 26, 2016, 01:31:28 pm
QuoteIf i recall well Olan actually get killed from te church, because with that book he support the heretic. but i can't remember if the game itself say so.


It does. Arazlam tells the player that at some point.

QuoteBut 100% sure Delita wouldn't have killed Onlan, he NEVER kill a person who is not involved with his plan or restoring peace his own way.


If I remember correctly, Olan actually picks up the mentality that Ramza is the true hero and implies that Delita doesn't deserve his position, which is stupid as all hell considering Ramza and Delita were pseudo-allies and Delita's work was just as important as Ramza's. Granted, Lucavi demons are a bit more of a threat to the country than power-hungry men, but it was still important to get rid of them too.

If Olan had tried to use the papers to overthrow Delita, well, yeah, Delita would have killed him. That said, the story says that hadn't happened (yet?); that Olan was focused on the Church and recklessly stormed in and made a public display of things instead of trying to deal with it more quietly, which forced them to either admit to massive corruption and outright being taken over by demons, or calling him a heretic and preserving their position in the world. Not much of a surprise which option they ended up going with.  :roll:

QuoteHe do kill the Orlandu copy but just to let orlandu flee with Ramza, i will always be by Delita's Side, because his action always reflect justice\revenge in my point of view, he is more a Hero then Ramza was, well more like a "more human like hero" Ramza is more the Fantasy Hero of the story.


Delita's a broken hero, but yes, still a hero. I wouldn't say he's more of a hero than Ramza, though - there's a reason he relied on Ramza so much in FFT. Ramza has a purity of spirit that Delita lost when he saw his sort-of adopted older brother give the command to shoot down his sister. Delita might have regained it, except Ovelia completely misinterpreted his actions and tried to kill him... so now he's plunged even deeper into paranoia, which is why he keeps Ramza confined so far away at the start of Jot5.

Quotealso i always wondered why Snake NEVER say nothing about magic in jot5 XD not even a small joke or observation!


Psycho Mantis alone trumps magic. Not that Snake isn't weirded out by the place or that you'll never see him remark on it, but he's got kind of a "smile and nod" attitude going on here. More importantly, he also isn't dealing with this place alone - he's not even particularly important to the group's progression through Ivalice (at least so far). He's a soldier, and he has a trustworthy leader who's directing the group's missions. That's a familiar scenario to him, if nothing else. If he was completely on his own, he'd probably have a hell of a lot more difficulty dealing with things.

But honestly, Ivalice so far has been way less of a mind-screw than the Shadow Moses Incident. No clone-brother, no nukes, no betrayals, no mind-reading, no dead associates having been given the Commander Shepard treatment, no hidden revelations, no fighting tanks on foot, nobody here is affected by FOXDIE, and he's got competent squadmates that are capable of dealing with the situation without Snake needing to hold their hand. Just magic and invisible noses.

And finally... he's still got his smokes. That helps take the edge off. :P
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on June 26, 2016, 01:42:28 pm
Quote
And finally... he's still got his smokes. That helps take the edge off. :P
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Guru on June 26, 2016, 06:18:35 pm
Most importantly, no raiden to deal with (yet)  (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS95al_--9vjOlpIfuoT7usbNCAgC_di3QBGVr8gSeVBoSatL8yZ566VaY)

Meliadoul was guessed already. Although it was never confirmed it wasn't her, we can assume it wasn't cuz Elric is still confident we will never guess it. She would fit good though, but doubt she would be hiding under a cloak (Of course she could have some reason behind it I guess)

We also don't really know what happens to Olan, that's just what is recorded in "history". But as a wise native American man from the x-files said...."history serves only those who seek to control it, those who douse the flame of memory in order to put out the dangerous fire of truth" (Yes I know fake character, point still stands.) He most likely was killed, I mean his descendant was the one who made the durai papers public. Who knows though, maybe Olan made a deal with the church for his discretion and exile, and they just faked his death so they don't lose "face". Or he lived out his days in a dungeon somewhere. I just always thought it was odd that Olan is being burned at the stake, and no one intervenes. Of course maybe it was just too late by the time anyone found out.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Nyzer on June 26, 2016, 06:59:33 pm
QuoteI just always thought it was odd that Olan is being burned at the stake, and no one intervenes.


It's implied that this happened in another country entirely. Ramza can't be everywhere, after all.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Hyraldelita on June 27, 2016, 05:40:38 pm
I agree that Delita' would have killed him , if he was going to be a treath for the kingdom he wanted to create, but Olan knew Delita would have not been a bad king, in fact he just despice Delita's way of doing things, but Oland and balmafula get spared by Delita and he know that, even if he didn't like him, he knew he wasn't a bad person.

FFT says that Delita's kingdom brought peace back and that it lasted long after he became king.  So i love the fact that you guys continued the story and it fit pretty well too , but i think to be completely ok with the story, it should have been like 10 years after Delita's kingdom or so.  Just to be loyal to what the story say.
I might be wrong but i recall this... can't really remeber where exactly i read this particular about "the kingdom was in peace for a lot of time after Delita became king"
If im wrong i apologize in advance XD
Anyway i know who the CS is..

and it's name is David Copperfield.

XD

Aniway from the first run i had through chapter 1, i dunno why, but i was always sure that CS is a woman. The sprite looks like the meliadoul one with a hood ^^ 100% sure it's not meliadoul , but the sprite is similar in some ways.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: silentkaster on July 05, 2016, 04:50:17 pm
Okay, okay. I think I know who the stranger is. Through process of elimination and a long look over all conceivable possibilities, this is the only answer that remains.

(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/015/283/Bubsy01.jpg)


After all, what could possibly go wrong?
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Xifanie on July 05, 2016, 06:08:41 pm
Actually, ever since this topic was made, someone posted the answer in here. This very topic. One of the 101 existing messages.

Since I got permission from Elric and everyone else in the team is fine with revealing who the Cloaked Stranger is,
I'll reveal it in 3 days.

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Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Bonesy on July 05, 2016, 07:08:23 pm
holding out for three midgets in a cloak
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: silentkaster on July 05, 2016, 10:42:05 pm
Quote from: Xifanie on July 05, 2016, 06:08:41 pm
Actually, ever since this topic was made, someone posted the answer in here. This very topic. One of the 101 existing messages.

Since I got permission from Elric and everyone else in the team is fine with revealing who the Cloaked Stranger is,
I'll reveal it in 3 days.

HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE



Yes!!! I knew I got it right.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on July 05, 2016, 10:46:27 pm
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Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Tempest on July 06, 2016, 08:48:16 am
Quote from: Xifanie on July 05, 2016, 06:08:41 pm
Actually, ever since this topic was made, someone posted the answer in here. This very topic. One of the 101 existing messages.

Since I got permission from Elric and everyone else in the team is fine with revealing who the Cloaked Stranger is,
I'll reveal it in 3 days.

HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE



no way, there is no way they would reveal it o.o
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Hyraldelita on July 06, 2016, 08:48:43 pm
Please don't XD i want to find it in the game while playing, and have the WTF expression on my face ^^
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Guru on July 07, 2016, 01:44:03 pm
Quote from: Xifanie on July 05, 2016, 06:08:41 pm
Actually, ever since this topic was made, someone posted the answer in here. This very topic. One of the 101 existing messages.

Since I got permission from Elric and everyone else in the team is fine with revealing who the Cloaked Stranger is,
I'll reveal it in 3 days.


:shock: I thought it was Luigi!? I do wonder if it was already guessed though, will be interesting to see if anyone got it right when the CS is actually revealed(probably in game cuz I doubt they will reveal it  ;))
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: HebrewToYou on July 08, 2016, 02:53:50 pm
Quote from: Xifanie on July 05, 2016, 06:08:41 pm
Actually, ever since this topic was made, someone posted the answer in here. This very topic. One of the 101 existing messages.

Since I got permission from Elric and everyone else in the team is fine with revealing who the Cloaked Stranger is,
I'll reveal it in 3 days.


And.........?
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Tempest on July 08, 2016, 04:16:37 pm
Quote from: HebrewToYou on July 08, 2016, 02:53:50 pm
And.........?


we are waiting... :(
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Xifanie on July 08, 2016, 07:08:31 pm





http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=11092.msg215954#msg215954





http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=11092.msg211814#msg211814









Did you have fun clicking all the way here? You could've just quoted my post to see faster.
It really was weegie

I'm serious, you just wasted your time  :shock:

Why would you do that to yourself? D:

*sigh* I give up.





















/spoiler]
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: HebrewToYou on July 08, 2016, 07:22:49 pm
Blerg.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Plan C on July 08, 2016, 10:08:15 pm
The cloaked stranger is.....


A stranger that is cloaked.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Jumza on July 08, 2016, 10:35:00 pm
There's actually a scene in the game where the cloaked stranger removes the cloak to reveal... A second cloak!
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on July 08, 2016, 10:51:09 pm
Quote from: HebrewToYou on July 08, 2016, 07:22:49 pm
Blerg.


Did you honestly think we'd tell you? Come on now...
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: HebrewToYou on July 09, 2016, 01:51:59 am
Quote from: Elric on July 08, 2016, 10:51:09 pm
Did you honestly think we'd tell you? Come on now...

No, but I'm champing at the bit to advance the storyline!
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on July 09, 2016, 02:03:42 am
Knowing the identity of the CS wouldnt do much for explaining the story line with you only knowing the plot of Chapter 1. The story of whats going on hasnt even really started yet lol
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: silentkaster on July 10, 2016, 09:56:27 am
Quote from: Elric on July 08, 2016, 10:51:09 pm
Did you honestly think we'd tell you? Come on now...


You mean it's not CD-I Luigi?

Ugh. And here I was hoping for him to eventually say, "I a-hope she made a-lots of spaghetti!"
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: HebrewToYou on July 11, 2016, 12:00:19 pm
Quote from: Elric on July 09, 2016, 02:03:42 am
Knowing the identity of the CS wouldnt do much for explaining the story line with you only knowing the plot of Chapter 1. The story of whats going on hasnt even really started yet lol

At this point I'll take whatever I can get.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: DenisColli on July 13, 2016, 01:44:14 pm
Oh Man... Everybody know how is the cloacked stranger...
... Theres only 2 options:
Mario... or Pikachu!
As hi talks... Hi is Mario!!!
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Hyraldelita on July 13, 2016, 07:34:09 pm
Loved Xifanie post, i was 100% that there was no chance to know it, and it's good like that, but so funny clicking all the spoilers ahhaha, Yea... i'm one of the people who click and read everything a game(post) has to offer XD
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Zyrku on July 24, 2016, 03:24:03 pm
FFIV Kain...? XD
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Vive on March 10, 2018, 10:41:05 am
Although this thread is really old, I'd like to guess. The CS is a character from Dissidia. My picks from he series are Cid, Shinryu, Chaos,  and/or Cosmos.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Vive on March 10, 2018, 10:42:46 am
Also, happy new years everyone! Goodluck with chapter 2 and so forth. I hope you can finish the whole game this year!
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: hndsmdvl on October 16, 2020, 10:38:35 am
I created this account because it was Chrono.

Or Dart. It wouldn't make any sense if it was Dart so I'm changing my answer to Dart, the Red Dragoonranger
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on October 16, 2020, 11:36:45 pm
Quote from: hndsmdvl on October 16, 2020, 10:38:35 amI created this account because it was Chrono.

Or Dart. It wouldn't make any sense if it was Dart so I'm changing my answer to Dart, the Red Dragoonranger

While these are both valid guesses, they are incorrect
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: G.P.S on October 18, 2020, 11:25:46 am
Even if someone has given the right answer, of course the moderators will not confirm. It would be a huge spoiler.
So my question is:
-Will the Clocked Stranger reveal him/herself in the rerelease or will the mystery continue until the final version?
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Nyzer on October 18, 2020, 12:53:07 pm
The CS' role will not change in the rerelease of Chapter 1. I won't spoil what may or may not happen in Chapter 2.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Swordmaster on October 21, 2020, 01:53:28 am
Quote from: G.P.S on October 18, 2020, 11:25:46 amEven if someone has given the right answer, of course the moderators will not confirm. It would be a huge spoiler.
So my question is:
-Will the Clocked Stranger reveal him/herself in the rerelease or will the mystery continue until the final version?

(https://i.imgur.com/sgDXEbm.jpg)
Not sure if this will load...  lol, it was a dumb joke anyway.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on October 21, 2020, 02:13:27 am
Now it loads
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: G.P.S on October 21, 2020, 02:56:21 pm
Quote from: Nyzer on October 18, 2020, 12:53:07 pmThe CS' role will not change in the rerelease of Chapter 1. I won't spoil what may or may not happen in Chapter 2.

So we can only wait.

And I didn't get the joke.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Swordmaster on October 23, 2020, 06:16:10 pm
Quote from: Elric on October 21, 2020, 02:13:27 amNow it loads
How did you fix it?  What did I do wrong?

Quote from: G.P.S on October 21, 2020, 02:56:21 pmAnd I didn't get the joke.
You misspelled "Cloaked" as "Clocked".  The moron in the photo is wearing a clock, therefore a "clocked stranger".  lol, it's dumb.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: G.P.S on October 24, 2020, 04:35:22 pm
Quote from: Swordmaster on October 23, 2020, 06:16:10 pmYou misspelled "Cloaked" as "Clocked".  The moron in the photo is wearing a clock, therefore a "clocked stranger".  lol, it's dumb.

And Im dump for not seem this.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Samson on November 14, 2020, 06:12:30 pm
I'm quite certain that the cloaked stranger is Izlude. He technically never "dies", although the game hints that he does, he's still alive during his final scene, so perhaps he could've somehow survived. Perhaps when Malak was revived by the stone, so was Izlude.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on November 14, 2020, 06:13:19 pm
Quote from: Samson on November 14, 2020, 06:12:30 pmI'm quite certain that the cloaked stranger is Izlude. He technically never "dies", although the game hints that he does, he's still alive during his final scene, so perhaps he could've somehow survived. Perhaps when Malak was revived by the stone, so was Izlude.

Its not Izlude, he very much dies and takes his final breath in vanilla FFT
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Samson on November 14, 2020, 06:16:40 pm
Quote from: Elric on November 14, 2020, 06:13:19 pmIts not Izlude, he very much dies and takes his final breath in vanilla FFT

You see him while he's bleeding to death, but he's still alive and talking. After the roof scene, he's nowhere to be found. Whether he actually dies or not is left inconclusive. Furthermore, the stone is left right beside him when Vormav kidnaps Alma. We even see the stone shining. Anything could've happened.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on November 14, 2020, 06:43:52 pm
Quote from: Samson on November 14, 2020, 06:16:40 pmYou see him while he's bleeding to death, but he's still alive and talking. After the roof scene, he's nowhere to be found. Whether he actually dies or not is left inconclusive. Furthermore, the stone is left right beside him when Vormav kidnaps Alma. We even see the stone shining. Anything could've happened.

You are misremembering. He takes his last breath and drops the stone before alma is kidnapped. Post roof scene we see him again, there dead when Ramza runs into that very same room looking for Alma, AFTER Malak is revived.

You can also read his biography after this point. He is very much dead.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: Samson on November 14, 2020, 09:02:26 pm
Quote from: Elric on November 14, 2020, 06:43:52 pmYou are misremembering. He takes his last breath and drops the stone before alma is kidnapped. Post roof scene we see him again, there dead when Ramza runs into that very same room looking for Alma, AFTER Malak is revived.

You can also read his biography after this point. He is very much dead.

That sucks, the brave story record does say he was slain. I thought it made no mention of his death, must've been a Mandela effect. Dang.
Title: Re: Who is the Cloaked Stranger
Post by: 3lric on November 14, 2020, 09:33:51 pm
Quote from: Samson on November 14, 2020, 09:02:26 pmThat sucks, the brave story record does say he was slain. I thought it made no mention of his death, must've been a Mandela effect. Dang.

Pretty much everyone you meet in the vanilla game, who isnt recognized as "one of the good guys" dies