Final Fantasy Hacktics

Thanks Barren for the matches, fun fun 

Actually, it does.  If you noticed, the weapon of choice for max damage was a dual wielded flail.  And we're considering it overpowered.  Not one axe was used, which you mentioned, was supposed to have instead fit that role.  Making it slightly random, still allows for potential max damage, but is offset by only working a % of the time, while still not crippling the weapon, and making it less over powered overall.  But I don't know.  There has to be something that makes axes more attractive, regardless.

Fine, that's your opinion, on how matches should proceed.  I was offering some suggestions.  You seem to have taken it personally, I thought this was an open forum to discuss ideas.

You're basically saying, let's remove a skill because no one uses it.  It's risky, yes, though not completely redundant.  At the moment, it's treated more as a beneficial status effect, though the AI doesn't treat it as such, which I guess is the only problem it faces in an AI tournament.  Maybe that's the problem.  If, for example, Berserk came with an automatic Haste effect (think Mad Rush in FFVIII), I would see it being used more as such, and far less debate over it's validity.  It's used for aggressive offensive units, but makes them dumber.

I'm also curious how people feel about a random damage calculation added to flails.

QuoteI even more strongly object to the idea of subordinating every kind of damage/healing/status infliction rate to Fury or Faith.

Agreed.  The effects of Fury and Faith should be kept separate.  I kind of like the idea that both combined affect reaction skill proc rate, though.

This isn't really a problem per se, but when there is a crazy amount of back and forth due to healing, it's kind of annoying.  IMO, the more options to shut down the enemy's defense, the smoother and faster a match will run.  While berserk may not be more desirable than say don't act, I do still feel it serves a purpose.  As you mentioned, you bait the enemy, instead of running away.  Also, the AI will be pretty dumb, in certain circumstances.  It wasn't uncommon for even this tournament for an archer or a chemist to shoot at a wall.  There are other benefits as well.  It lasts longer.  With don't act, the worst that happens mostly, is the enemy runs away, and it wears off very quickly.  So with berserk, you can at least bait, with a long infliction time (well, until healed or dead more or less).  It's obviously better suited in the hands of a human player, but, as I mentioned, the more options to shut down annoying heal spam, the better, IMO.  Another under utilized skill was Zombie, in this same note.  So many teams relied on healing and items, and zombie effective kills  both of those, as well as ressurection.  It was under utilized.

I agree that Reflect is powerful, it's been under utilized in the current tournament.  If you look at the most dangerous spells, most of them are reflectable.  I had equip armor on my oracles in the vampire hunters team, and they were essentially protected against negative status ailments (magical) and all the dangerous spells that it seems 90% of the board employed (flare, and holy, and so on).  To be honest, part of me likes that.  It's nice to have an option to shut down most team's "go-to" attack spells, and promotes diversity and strategy.  As long as Reflect Mail is kept unchanged, I am fine with that.

Re: scorpion tail, I agree that the WP should be lowered.  However, keeping with the spirit of the original game, add a small random damage calculation to the equation.  I would recommend something like 10%.  So a scorpion tail at 11 WP with a wielder of 10 PA, for example, would do between 99 and 121 damage, 110 being the base.  The problem I get with the original formulas were that they sucked, and the lowest damage was more common.  Here, you keep the potential for one of the strongest weapons, and ofset that a bit with a small random damage calculation.  I mean, it's already got 50% poison proc, on top of the strongest flail WP, too.  I feel this would balance it out a bit more.

Maximizing damage, let's say at 11 WP with 14 PA and Attack Up, it would hit between 184 and 224.  I would even take it possibly to 10 WP, using this calculation, but that's just me.  Two handed, it still has the potential to two shot more or less all units, even at minimum damage.

Is it just me or did these rounds of matches go by pretty quickly

Thanks for the matches Wiz

fdc speaks truth.  I've been noticing that the first thing I do when one of my teams loses, is either up the offence or defense to the extreme.  Middling seems counter productive in this tournament thus far.

YUSD doesn't have undead or petrify protection.  That's Vampire Hunter's speciality.  The only problem I forsee, is getting it to land, since YUSD chemists have low faith, but once it does, they can't heal anymore.  One thing I am curious about, since I've never witnessed it, will auto-potion harm an undead unit?  Or will it not even trigger at all?

Don't be silly, there are many ways to beat Derp.

The AI is just way too anal on who they target, basing it strictly on HP values.  That Squire was dangerous, but was ignored the 2nd and 3rd matches, mostly, where I was prominently massacred, and it's no surprise.

Quote from: Celdia on October 19, 2011, 11:32:42 pm

spoiler: D&G vs. The Bane of My Existance, doriantoki

Why you gotta keep making teams that make mine look so amateur?! :P

Seriously though, weather and terrain ruined you there. In a less hectic set of maps you would have had that in 2 rounds. Doubly so because I noticed an error on my team that worked in my favor if I'm reading those Ninjitsu skills right. Regardless, GG doriantoki. Always fun fighting your teams. ^_^

Barren check the Brave and Faith on my bards in Diamonds and Guns. I think one of them has the values flipped. Should be 70/40, not 40/70. That would have made some difference in the last match I think.

Ha ha, that isn't my intention.  But Raz is right, too, though, weather and procs will be a large part of your team, it's just how it is.  And sometimes that is enough to turn the tide.  Although I did notice the weirdness in brave/faith as well, which would've affected the damage caused by Ninjitsu (it's faith based, damage, right?  Like Un-Truth?).

Once you throw Reflect in the mix, as in reflecting it off your own characters, charge times also become largely irrelevant.  But I guess the reflect magic strategy is pretty rare, as is most people's understand of how it works.   But if used properly, get two powerful reflect-able spells, and throw them at the enemy off your ally, while you wait for the enemy to come to you.

On that same note, what will happen with Quick reflects?  Would the target be interrupted after the first spell, or would dual-cast continue?