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☢ ☢ ☢ FFT Arena AI Tournament Season 1 ☢ ☢ ☢ (FINISHED!)

Started by Gaignun, May 01, 2012, 03:48:46 am

Reks

@Dome
I believe that the Magic Ring makes you immune to silence, along with the Robe of Lords..... Golden Hairpin, I think... No, it does something else. Strengthens Dark and Holy. Oh, and the Reflect Ring also grants Silence immunity.
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CT5Holy

Sorry for any mistakes I've made/caught late/etc.

Wiz's team concept seems really cool. Pain to watch, probably, but it looks really well thought out.

I'm actually surprised at the number of people using Insult. 3 or 4ish people IIRC.

Gaignun - thanks for those statistics, as well as everything else. I was especially curious about Masamune.
Oh wow, only 2 Grand Cross users, and 5 Magic Gun Kagesougi users? huh. Ok, my team might have a chance. Maybe. My team kinda dies to Kagesougi. But anyways.
Yeah, Geomancers...
Also a bit surprised at the amount of Perfumes. And here I was thinking I'd be clever.

Haha, AeroGP super metagamed (equips-wise).
Winner of the 1st FFT 1.3 AI Tourney

formerdeathcorps

AeroGP was expecting people to make squads like mine, but he has to beat Barren (who has a reasonable counter, I think) before that can pay off.  Wiz's squad though, leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.  Something seems off about the whole thing.
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CT5Holy

Is it because we both favor offense over defense? =P

EDIT: Damned, good catch on Avalanche's Bard. PM'd Gaignun the missing abilities.
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Avalanche

May 01, 2012, 04:01:59 pm #24 Last Edit: May 01, 2012, 04:09:44 pm by Avalanche
Lol even i didnt noticed the missing abilities on my Bard when watching over my team. I hope every Host is getting the abilities.

seems my Team is facing some very good Teams in the beginning: vigilanty and Barren both of them have very good Teams. Especially with ninjutsu spells, which i guess is my strongest weakness due to innocence.

Another thing was the Winner bracket changed latelly?

Fantactic1316

Quote from: Dome on May 01, 2012, 02:42:26 pm
Which accessory/piece of equipment gives immunity to silence?


Reflect Ring is a good choice for mage types. It gives 1MA, Intial: Reflect, and Cancel: Silence.

Also, Barette, Gold Armor, Robe of Lords, Magic Ring, and Aegis Shield.
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-The Doctor-

Gaignun

Quote from: The Damned on May 01, 2012, 02:22:43 pmAlso, my Palette choice was Green primary and Blue alternate. I PM'd it to CT5Holy separately because I initially forgot it.


Gotcha.  I updated your entry.  Don't feel so bad.  Your team is an instant favourite of mine because it's actually using dancers.

Quote from: formerdeathcorpsWiz's squad though, leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.  Something seems off about the whole thing.


He'll slowly destroy both his opponent and his host's remaining HDD space with uncompressed video.

Leif1991

Quote from: Gaignun on May 01, 2012, 05:12:49 pm
Gotcha.  I updated your entry.  Don't feel so bad.  Your team is an instant favourite of mine because it's actually using dancers.

He'll slowly destroy both his opponent and his host's remaining HDD space with uncompressed video.

Yeah, my team's primary color was Green, not Black. My team is centered around the color green, lol. :P
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The Damned

(Ugh, that last post of my mine was horribly typo-ridden. It's fixed now.)

I forgot to say that I'm surprised at the amount of Dispel Magic that people are using, but it certainly makes sense more than the other things I was surprised at.

Anyway, yeah, I was certainly expecting the type of metagame for at least half of the teams that AeroGP's individual units seem to be anticipating. That this didn't happen makes me feel more interested in this tournament than just watching half of the teams gun the other half down (give or take Projectile Guard).

Kinda me wish I submitted that Fire-based team given there are a lot less Black Costumes than I thought there would be....

Oh well. Now fully realizing what Wiz's team intends to do makes me masochistically and sadistically want to see how it and Y U SO DERP fare against each other despite all my joking about how the latter team shouldn't be allowed in the tournament earlier. I really don't envy anyone who has to run his matches as it is, despite the fact I'm getting the same "off" feeling it formerdeathcorps was talking about; I think its the 40s for the Auto Potion units, though 40% is still decent. We'll see how it fares in action, though.

Quote from: Dome on May 01, 2012, 02:42:26 pm
@The Damned
Not that it changes much, but my team absorbs & Strenghten both Earth and Dark
In case someone use float
Which accessory/piece of equipment gives immunity to silence?


Ah, I missed the Dark absorption on the Geomancers first time around. Too busy rushing and focusing on the Blood Swords and the lack of Silence protection alongside the lack of Echo Grass I guess.

As for what gives Silence immunity, everything that Fantactic1316 said. You can worry a bit less about it that, unlike in Vanilla, it's cured by Dead in ARENA. ...Too bad Undead only have a 50/50 chance of getting back up versus Crystallizing--after having to wait 3 turns--and can't be raised normally.

Quote from: Gaignun on May 01, 2012, 05:12:49 pm
Gotcha.  I updated your entry.  Don't feel so bad.  Your team is an instant favourite of mine because it's actually using dancers.


Ah, okay, thanks. It wasn't a huge deal anyway, especially since it was my fault to begin with.

Speaking of Dancers, even with the problems that Nameless Dance has and coming back to see their rates pretty much lower than Bards all around, I'm still surprised they're tied for second to last in use after freaking Wizards and Squires. Similarly surprised to see they're equal in number to Mimes, whom they're tied with in number (alongside, surprisingly, Geomancer), yet no Mimes and Dancers aren't on the same team even with Speed Save's weakening.

It's quite odd to think about/realize the fact that if I had submitted another team (or not submitted one at all) then they'd be dead last, which is probably what would have happened if I focused on any other "useless" technique except for Nameless Dance (and maybe Bad Luck). Hunh.

But, anyway, I'm typing more than I need to (as always), so I'll wait until the first videos get posted, especially since I need to do actual work in real life.

I'll try to not to disappoint too horribly, though I have no control over my Dancers being dumbasses about movement and Dance choice at key moments among most other things.
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TrueLight

May 01, 2012, 09:08:29 pm #29 Last Edit: May 01, 2012, 10:11:00 pm by TrueLight
Looks like I'm actually going to make it to round 2 this season  :mrgreen:

GL to you Shade  :D

Here are some stats...hope my math is correct :|

Reactions
Auto Potion 35
Damage Split 20
None 14
Abandon 12
Counter Flood 10
PA Save 10
HP Restore 9
MA Save 9
Projectile Guard 9
Absorb MP 8
Counter Magic 8
Dragon Spirit 8
Awareness 6
Finger Guard 4
Regenerator 4
MP Restore 4
Counter 3
Critical Quick 3
Speed Save 3
Distribute 2
Faith UP 2

Supports
Short Charge 31
Attack UP 21
Equip Armor 17
Magic Attack UP 17
Defense UP 13
Equip Shield 12
Unyielding 12
Overwhelm 10
Throw Item 9
Equip Ranged 7
Martial Arts 7
Magic Defend UP 6
Equip Polearm 5
Two Swords 5
Equip Heavy Blade 3
Half of MP 2
Two Hands 2
Equip Clothes 1


Movement
Move-HP UP 54
Move-MP UP 39
None 21
Fly 15
Move+1 14
Teleport 9
Float 8
Jump+1 7
Flee 5
Jump+2 5
Ignore Height 3
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The Damned

(Poor Equip Clothes looks so lonely down there. Even more sadly, it's probably just glad it got picked at all for once.)

Thanks for the tally of RSMs, TrueLight; I'd double check that if I weren't already behind in other things. You as well for the class one, Gaignun.

Anyone want to do a tally of the active abilities used? I'm curious to find out what the most frequently used non-resurrection (and non-healing) technique is despite--arguably, given--the really large pool of abilities to choose from. Given how sparse Grand Cross seems to be, it might actually be surprising and not be Kagesougi.
"Sorrow cannot be abolished. It is meaningless to try." - FFX's Yunalesca

"Good and evil are relative, but being a dick cannot be allowed." - Oglaf's Thaumaturge in "The Abyss"

"Well, see, the real magic isn't believing in yourself. The real magic is manipulating people by telling them to believe in themselves. The more you believe, the less you check facts."  - Oglaf's Vanka in "Conviction"

Fantactic1316

Masamune features pretty heavily at 32, compared to 5 Haste and 0 Haste 2. Also a moderate amount of Armor Break, and quite a bit of Steal Heart/Beguile. Only 3 Zombies to 13 Holy Waters. You guys can pick at the rest of it yourselves.


Accumulate - 2
Bullrush - 2
Throw Stone - 1
Heal - 4
Wish - 4

Hi-Potion - 18
X-Potion - 21
Ether - 9
Hi-Either - 15
Antidote - 10
Eye Drops - 6
Echo Grass - 11
Maiden's Kiss - 25
Soft - 30
Holy Water - 13
Bandage - 24
Phoenix Down - 41

Nurse - 4
Dia -1
Consecration - 2
Transfusion - 4
Iron Will - 3
Magic Ward - 4
Grand Cross - 2

Leg Aim - 2
Arm Aim - 8
Seal Evil - 3
Greased Bolt - 2
Hawk's Eye - 2
Execute - 2
Cover Fire - 2
Head Break - 5
Armor Break - 13
Shield Break - 4
Weapon Break - 6

Spin Fist - 4
Repeating Fist - 5
Wave Fist - 2
Earth Slash - 2
Secret Fist - 4
Stigma Magic - 23
Chakra - 17
Revive - 20

Cure - 3
Cure 2 - 14
Cure 3 - 14
Cure 4 - 2
Raise - 10
Raise 2 - 36
Reraise - 2
Protect - 7
Protect 2 - 1
Shell - 3
Shell 2 - 2
Wall - 1
Esuna - 33
Holy - 17

Fire 2 - 1
Fire 3 - 2
Fire 4 - 1
Bolt 3 - 2
Bolt 4 - 2
Ice 2 - 2
Ice 3 - 2
Ice 4 - 3
Poison - 1
Frog - 3
Death - 1
Flare - 3

Haste - 5
Slow - 3
Slow 2 - 3
Stop - 3
Don't Move - 1
Comet - 3
Sinkhole - 6
Demi - 1

Moogle - 7
Shiva - 1
Ramuh - 4
Leviathan - 2
Salamander - 1
Fairy - 9
Carbunkle - 5
Silf - 3
Odin - 1
Cyclops - 2
Zodiac - 3

Bad Luck - 4
Spellbreaker - 4
Quickening - 15
Steal Heart - 17
Steal Accessory - 2
Speed Ruin - 1

Blackmail - 6
Persuade - 1
Preach - 1
Death Sentence - 3
Refute - 6
Insult - 6
Mimic Daravon - 8

Blind - 1
Life Drain - 1
Zombie - 3
Silence Song - 4
Beguile - 8
Dispel Magic - 4
Paralyze - 8
Sleep - 8
Petrify - 5

Pitfall - 3
Water Ball - 4
Hell Ivy - 3
Carve Model - 4
Local Quake - 3
Kamaitachi - 3
Demon Fire - 3
Quicksand - 3
Sand Storm - 4
Blizzard - 4
Gusty Wind - 3
Lava Ball - 3

Level Jump 4 - 2
Level Jump 6 - 6
Vertical Jump 4 - 1
Vertical Jump 5 - 4
Vertical Jump 7 - 1
Vertical Jump 8 - 2

Asura - 4
Koutetsu - 9
Bizen Boat - 6
Murasame - 20
Heaven's Cloud - 2
Kiyomori - 4
Murmasa - 4
Kikuichumoji - 5
Masamune - 32
Chirijiraden - 3

Tsumazuku - 2
Shuriken - 5
Meiton - 12
Fuuton - 8
Suiton - 7
Hokouton - 1
Kagesougi - 10
Doku no Kyoukai - 6

Earth Dragon - 2
Thunder Flare - 2
Shadow Shade -2
Mad Science - 6
Bio - 4
Bio 2 - 5
Bio 3 - 2
Tornado - 4
Quake - 6

Angel Song - 2
Life Song - 1
Cheer Song - 1
Battle Song - 3
Magic Song - 1

Witch Hunt - 1
Wiznaibus - 1
Polka Polka - 2
Nameless Dance - 1
Last Dance - 2

Mimic - 4

"D'you know in 900 years of time and space, I've never met anyone who wasn't important before."
-The Doctor-

Gaignun

More stats, including a rehash of Fantactic's, as we happened to be doing the same thing at the same time.

Active skill count

Count: number of units with listed skill
(%):   ratio of units with skill over units with skill set (normalised to 100)

   Name           Count (%)
Accumulate        02 (40.0)
Bullrush          02 (40.0)
Throw Stone       01 (20.0)
Heal              04 (80.0)
Yell              00 (00.0)
Wish              03 (60.0)
Cheer Up          00 (00.0)
Ultima            00 (00.0)

Hi-Potion         18 (40.9)
X-Potion          21 (47.7)
Ether             08 (18.2)
Hi-Ether          16 (36.4)
Antidote          10 (22.7)
Eye Drop          06 (13.6)
Echo Grass        10 (22.7)
Maiden's Kiss     25 (56.8)
Soft              30 (68.2)
Holy Water        13 (29.5)
Bandage           25 (56.8)
Phoenix Down      41 (93.2)

Nurse             04 (23.5)
Dia               01 (05.9)
Consecration      02 (11.8)
Transfusion       04 (23.5)
Iron Will         03 (17.6)
Magicward         04 (23.5)
Grand Cross       02 (11.8)

Leg Aim           02 (08.7)
Arm Aim           08 (34.8)
Seal Evil         03 (13.0)
Greased Bolt      02 (08.7)
Hawk's Eye        02 (08.7)
Execute           02 (08.7)
Cover Fire        02 (08.7)
Head Break        05 (21.7)
Armor Break       13 (56.5)
Shield Break      04 (17.4)
Weapon Break      06 (26.1)

Spin Fist         04 (14.8)
Repeating Fist    05 (18.5)
Wave Fist         02 (07.4)
Earth Slash       02 (07.4)
Secret Fist       04 (14.8)
Stigma Magic      23 (85.2)
Chakra            17 (73.9)
Revive            20 (74.1)

Cure              03 (07.5)
Cure 2            13 (32.5)
Cure 3            15 (37.5)
Cure 4            02 (05.0)
Raise             12 (30.0)
Raise 2           36 (90.0)
Reraise           02 (05.0)
Regen             04 (10.0)
Protect           08 (20.0)
Protect 2         01 (02.5)
Shell             03 (07.5)
Shell 2           02 (05.0)
Wall              01 (02.5)
Esuna             33 (82.5)
Holy              17 (42.5)

Fire              00 (00.0)
Fire 2            01 (20.0)
Fire 3            02 (40.0)
Fire 4            01 (20.0)
Bolt              00 (00.0)
Bolt 2            00 (00.0)
Bolt 3            02 (40.0)
Bolt 4            02 (40.0)
Ice               00 (00.0)
Ice 2             02 (40.0)
Ice 3             02 (40.0)
Ice 4             03 (60.0)
Poison            01 (20.0)
Frog              03 (60.0)
Death             01 (20.0)
Flare             03 (60.0)

Haste             06 (54.5)
Haste 2           01 (09.1)
Slow              03 (27.3)
Slow 2            03 (27.3)
Stop              03 (27.3)
Don't Move        01 (09.1)
Comet             04 (36.4)
Sinkhole          07 (63.6)
Balance           00 (00.0)
Demi              01 (09.1)
Demi 2            00 (00.0)

Moogle            08 (66.6)
Shiva             01 (08.3)
Ramuh             04 (33.3)
Ifrit             00 (00.0)
Leviathan         02 (16.7)
Salamander        01 (08.3)
Titan             00 (00.0)
Fairy             09 (75.0)
Carbunkle         05 (41.7)
Silf              03 (25.0)
Odin              01 (08.3)
Bahamut           00 (00.0)
Lich              00 (00.0)
Cyclops           02 (16.7)
Zodiac            03 (25.0)

Heretic           00 (00.0)
Bad Luck          04 (17.4)
Spellbreaker      04 (17.4)
Quickening        15 (65.2)
Steal Heart       17 (73.9)
Steal Accessory   02 (08.7)
Magic Ruin        00 (00.0)
Speed Ruin        01 (04.3)
Power Ruin        00 (00.0)
Mind Ruin         00 (00.0)

Blackmail         06 (37.5)
Persuade          01 (06.3)
Preach            01 (06.3)
Solution          00 (00.0)
Death Sentence    03 (18.8)
Refute            06 (37.5)
Insult            06 (37.5)
Mimic Daravon     08 (50.0)

Blind             01 (07.7)
Spell Absorb      00 (00.0)
Life Drain        01 (07.7)
Zombie            03 (23.1)
Silence Song      04 (30.8)
Blind Rage        00 (00.0)
Beguile           08 (61.5)
Dispel Magic      04 (30.8)
Paralyze          09 (69.2)
Sleep             08 (61.5)
Petrify           05 (38.5)

Pitfall           03 (75.0)
Water Ball        04 (100.)
Hell Ivy          03 (75.0)
Carve Model       04 (100.)
Local Quake       04 (100.)
Kamaitachi        03 (75.0)
Demon Fire        03 (75.0)
Quicksand         03 (75.0)
Sand Storm        04 (100.)
Blizzard          04 (100.)
Gusty Wind        03 (75.0)
Lava Ball         03 (75.0)

Jump              08 (80.0)

Asura             04 (11.4)
Koutetsu          09 (25.7)
Bizen Boat        06 (17.1)
Murasame          20 (57.1)
Heaven's Cloud    02 (05.7)
Kiyomori          04 (11.4)
Muramasa          04 (11.4)
Kikuichimonji     05 (14.3)
Masamune          32 (91.4)
Chirijiraden      03 (05.6)

Tsumazuku         02 (06.7)
Shuriken          05 (16.7)
Meiton            12 (40.0)
Fuuton            08 (26.7)
Suiton            07 (23.3)
Houkouton         01 (03.3)
Kagesougi         10 (33.3)
Doku no Kyoukai   06 (20.0)

Natural Selection 00 (00.0)
Rime Bolt         00 (00.0)
Earth Dragon      02 (11.8)
Thunder Flare     02 (11.8)
Shadow Shade      02 (11.8)
Mad Science       06 (35.3)
Bio               04 (23.5)
Bio 2             05 (29.4)
Bio 3             02 (11.8)
Tornado           04 (23.5)
Quake             06 (35.3)

Angel Song        02 (14.3)
Life Song         01 (07.1)
Cheer Song        01 (07.1)
Battle Song       03 (21.4)
Magic Song        01 (07.1)
Nameless Song     00 (00.0)
Last Song         00 (00.0)

Witch Hunt        01 (25.0)
Wiznaibus         01 (25.0)
Slow Dance        00 (00.0)
Polka Polka       02 (50.0)
Disillusion       00 (00.0)
Nameless Dance    01 (25.0)
Last Dance        02 (50.0)


Armour count

Count: number of units with listed equipment

============ SHIELDS ============
   Name          Count   Comment
Mythril Shield    02
Gold Shield       00
Ice Shield        02
Flame Shield      01
Aegis Shield      06
Diamond Shield    01
Platina Shield    01
Crystal Shield    01
Genji Shield      09     Dat +1 PA
Kaiser Plate      06
Venetian Shield   12     Kaiser plate/black robe/magic gun/you-lose-good-day-sir counter
Escutcheon II     02

============= HEAD =============
   Name          Count   Comment
Barbuta           11     PA-stacking
Mythril Helmet    00
Gold Helmet       04
Cross Helmet      07
Diamond Helmet    11     Ever-so-popular reraise
Platina Helmet    00
Circlet           03
Crystal Helmet    09     Paralyze: most anticipated of all status ailments
Genji Helmet      00
Grand Helmet      03

Green Beret       15
Twist Headband    10
Holy Miter        11
Black Hood        09
Golden Hairpin    43     Most utility (MA, MP, Holy/Dark strengthening)
Flash Hat         05
Thief Hat         24     -ton/lore counter, SP

Cachusha          04
Barette           01
Ribbon            08

============= BODY =============
   Name          Count   Comment
Gold Armor        07
Diamond Armor     05
Platina Armor     05
Carabini Mail     09
Crystal Armor     02
Genji Armor       03
Reflect Mail      06
Maximillian       05

Wizard Outfit     10
Brigandine        08
Santa Outfit      06
Power Sleeve      17     More PA-stacking
Earth Clothes     11     Modest number of earth synergies
Secret Clothes    05
Black Costume     36     Blaze Gun/Koutetsu counter/synergy
Rubber Costume    05

Linen Robe        02
Silk Robe         04
Wizard Robe       02
Chameleon Robe    03
White Robe        08     5/8 are paired with Setiemson.  Good luck magic gunners!
Black Robe        04
Light Robe        05
Robe of Lords     12

==========  ACCESSORY ==========
   Name          Count   Comment
Battle Boots      05
Germinas Boots    07
Rubber Shoes      04
Feather Boots     00
Sprint Shoes      07
Red Shoes         07
Iron Boots        03
Power Wrist       01
Genji Gauntlet    00
Magic Gauntlet    08
Bracer            09
Reflect Ring      03     Not a lot of Faith Rods that need covering for
Defense Ring      00     As expected
Magic Ring        09
Cursed Ring       03
Angel Ring        15
Diamond Armlet    07
Jade Armlet       00     As expected
108 Gems          02
N-Kai Armlet      10     Koutetsu synergy, meiton counter
Defense Armlet    00     As expected
Small Mantle      05
Leather Mantle    00
Wizard Mantle     02
Elf Mantle        03
Dracula Mantle    01
Feather Mantle    04
Vanish Mantle     06
Chantage          20     Reraise with frog and sleep protection > reraise with dead and blind protection
Cherche           20
Setiemson         26     Most popular accessory
Salty Rage        00


Elemental resistance count

Index := (Abs+Cnc+0.5*Hlv)/n
  where n = 4*46  (number of units)
  Measure of collective resistance to given element.
  Basing offense in an element with a lower index will be more profitable.
  eg. Index = 100   element is completely ineffective
      Index =   0   element is completely effective

      Fi  Ic  Lt  Wn  Wt  Er  Hy  Dk
Abs   37  08  08  15  05  13  12  49
Cnc   00  00  04  07  07  13* 09  00
Hlv** 17  20  20  23  22  23  00  00
Index 25  10  12  18  13  20  11  27

*Does not include units with dispellable float (ie. float from Diamond Helmet)
**Does not include units who also absorb or cancel the element

formerdeathcorps

Predictions (Round of 16):

Lief vs. Shade
mucus vs. ET
Squidgy vs. Angelus
Wiz vs. DomieV
AeroGP vs. Fanatic
Dol vs. Barren
fdc vs. LordBobBree
Ryason55 vs. Celdia
The destruction of the will is the rape of the mind.
The dogmas of every era are nothing but the fantasies of those in power; their dreams are our waking nightmares.

Barren

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You dare cross blades with me?

Shade

*looks at TL's team*

This is going to suck hard.
Two black costumes... again.

Looked at what not healing skills are most used... masamune 32. Steal heart at 17... god I hate that ability. Also what is up with holy these days, it seems everyone uses holy instead flare these days.

Also 36 black costumes... dafuq? I mean we don't even have many kagesougi users.

I am really happy that I gave my kagesougi users the unfaith skill (I think I shoulda give some other one of the unfaith skill to them now that I think of it so I could bypass black costumes.... it's too late isn't it?)

FDC I know that you "predicted" me that far in to the tournament just because of my team's name (FDC Corporation) and that there is a guy named FDC in it.
Upupupu...

Zetsubou

formerdeathcorps

Black Costume is also used on Shadow Shade and Koutetsu/Demi absorb teams.  As for granting you the win, just wait until you see your match.
The destruction of the will is the rape of the mind.
The dogmas of every era are nothing but the fantasies of those in power; their dreams are our waking nightmares.

Shade

Can we get the videos in the discussion topic?

Can we see how many skill sets are being use and how many jobs?

Also I would like to see how many weapons there are too.

Also FDC look at our post counts. Make a post (doesn't have to be here), so we can have both 1074 posts :3
Upupupu...

Zetsubou

Fantactic1316

Quote from: Shade on May 02, 2012, 10:26:23 am
Also what is up with holy these days, it seems everyone uses holy instead flare these days.


More often than not, Holy is all you'll need to get the job done against level 35 units. Holy is strengthened by the Golden Hairpin, which also gives 1MA and 70/50. Flare costs more MP at a longer charge time. And Holy is part of a skillset that includes raising, curing, and status healing.
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-The Doctor-

Dome

Having 2 stickied topics about the tournament is confusing me >_>

"Be wise today so you don't cry tomorrow"