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Title: Mercenaries Art Thread
Post by: LastingDawn on November 15, 2008, 11:37:47 pm

Hmm... I wasn't going to make this at first, but if I recall we have a rather dedicated couple of folks to such. So, I'll post a few pictures I found throughout the internet that does Mercenaries justice.

If anyone would like to join or help with this project, feel free.
Off of Japanese Sites
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/GafgariontheDarkKnight.jpg)

(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/gafu.jpg)

Clockwork Seal's Production Art

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u182/Clockwork_Seal/temperedpieke.png)

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u182/Clockwork_Seal/radlavian.png)

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Post by: DarthPaul on November 15, 2008, 11:50:50 pm

I have already started a picture that should make you proud but i have to scan and photoshop it to give it color as im out of medium.

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Post by: LastingDawn on November 16, 2008, 12:03:01 am

Ah, pretty cool. Thanks for the support Darthpaul.

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Post by: Disco_Peach on November 16, 2008, 12:09:03 am

Tres awesome that Gafgarion with full armor and huge sword. Amazing!

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Post by: DarthPaul on November 16, 2008, 12:18:43 am

Always glad to lend some kind of hand. The basic gist of the pic though is a kinda poster for Mercenaries featuring only Gaffy, Ramza, and Rad(or should i say Ladd nah we stick with what works).

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Post by: Cheetah on November 16, 2008, 02:49:57 am

That Gafgarion pic is soo sweet, holy crap.

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Post by: GZGoten on November 16, 2008, 05:09:49 pm

All right I'll start scanning & submiting my pics as soon as I can. Hopefully that'll be soon :p
In case somebody didn't catch it the first time heres the llink to my gallery
http://goten50000.deviantart.com/ (http://goten50000.deviantart.com/)
Enjoy, if that's even possible, I find it hard to like my drawings XD

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Post by: DarthPaul on November 16, 2008, 05:51:42 pm

Huh i though it was just me but i don't enjoy a single thing i draw because after it's done i know every single flaw. The only time it's perfect is when it's still in your head and hasn't hit the paper yet.

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Post by: Clockwork Seal on November 16, 2008, 06:17:23 pm

Quoteafter it's done i know every single flaw. The only time it's perfect is when it's still in your head and hasn't hit the paper yet.

Well, duh. That's how it's always going to be. ^_~

That said HEY LOOK CRAPPY SKETCH TIME.

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u182/Clockwork_Seal/temperedpieke.png)

Enjoy how it gets worse and worse as you approach the feet!

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Post by: Archael on November 16, 2008, 06:19:38 pm

hahaha
that's not a crappy sketch at all

it's decent

good job

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Post by: Clockwork Seal on November 16, 2008, 06:22:35 pm

Oh pishposh, Rachael, Darthpaul already covered why I call it crappy.

And seriously. Look at those feet. Godawful. And the sword. It should be resting on the ground with the way it's being held, but that'd make it way too long for its thickness and I'm sure as hell not erasing to redraw it!

Edit: Also, I wrote Tempered Blade instead of sword. Shows how good MY short-term memory is!

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Post by: Zozma on November 16, 2008, 06:24:57 pm

clockwork seal

you should do one of Lavian and Rad too

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Post by: Clockwork Seal on November 16, 2008, 07:07:03 pm

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u182 ... lavian.png (http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u182/Clockwork_Seal/radpartlavian.png)

Here's Rad and WIP Lavian

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Post by: DarthPaul on November 16, 2008, 07:13:22 pm

At least I'm not the only one who's sketches look a bit messy, but i clean then up slightly before posting. Also yes Clockwork we as artists are cursed to criticize even our own genius.

EDIT: I noticed you prefer to give the characters noses even in fft style and i would say its done rather well as the image isn't thrown off by the slgith edition.

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Post by: Cheetah on November 16, 2008, 07:42:47 pm

Those scetches look really good overall.

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Post by: Zozma on November 16, 2008, 08:13:20 pm

wow thats looking great to me. makes me realize i cant really draw lol..

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Post by: Archael on November 16, 2008, 08:19:40 pm

Quote from: "Zozma"wow thats looking great to me. makes me realize i cant really draw lol..

Oh I had realized this along time ago dont worry lrolr oluouli

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Post by: Clockwork Seal on November 16, 2008, 09:03:09 pm

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u182/Clockwork_Seal/radlavian.png)

Edited the previous one into a link in order to not stretch the page too terribly much bigger. I opted to go with more of a scale/brigandine vest than chain mesh because I thought it'd look neat and the sprite didn't look meshy. It actually looks more like a sort of banded armor, but I don't like bands for fencers so there <_<.

QuoteAt least I'm not the only one who's sketches look a bit messy, but i clean then up slightly before posting. Also yes Clockwork we as artists are cursed to criticize even our own genius.

I never erase anything that I don't think is actively getting in the way of the picture. I actually like the sketchy look (both when I and especially others do it) because I love the process, and I love being able to look at a picture and see how it goes together. Consider it a doodler's version of voyeurism. ^_~

Also I don't really consider myself an artist. It's just a hobby for me, and if I ever start calling myself an artist I'll have to take it seriously and it won't be as fun.

QuoteThose scetches look really good overall.

Well thanks. I appreciate it =p

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Post by: GZGoten on November 16, 2008, 09:19:08 pm

Well here's something I tried to do with Ramza and FFIII DS style didn't come out like I wanted it too... But it's new!
http://goten50000.deviantart.com/art/Ra ... -103808565 (http://goten50000.deviantart.com/art/Ramza-Try-1-miss-103808565)

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Post by: DarthPaul on November 16, 2008, 09:20:39 pm

I like the way you put that, and you are right i like the sketchiness too i just clean it up as eventually i plan on coloring them in photo shop and the original don't get the edit only the scanned copy

Quote from: "Clockwork Seal"Also I don't really consider myself an artist. It's just a hobby for me, and if I ever start calling myself an artist I'll have to take it seriously and it won't be as fun.

And by all means and purposes I am an artist or at least that what I have to tell the IRS about my pay checks. I say that in that i don't take anything serious (accept maybe my work on tactics) so you can be an artist and not take your work serious cause in the end your just doing what you love.

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Post by: DarthPaul on November 16, 2008, 09:20:56 pm

Quote from: "Clockwork Seal"Also I don't really consider myself an artist. It's just a hobby for me, and if I ever start calling myself an artist I'll have to take it seriously and it won't be as fun.

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Post by: LastingDawn on November 16, 2008, 09:38:00 pm

Oh my... oh my... I did not expect to actually have artists of such caliber on my side! Thank you both! Clockwork Seal your Rad and Lavian fit their character's perfectly! Also that Pieke... beautiful, simply beauitiful!!

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Post by: GZGoten on November 16, 2008, 10:11:18 pm

QuoteAnd by all means and purposes I am an artist or at least that what I have to tell the IRS about my pay checks.

Really? Not to scare you but I do take my work very seriously, and it just so happens my job is being an accountant/agent for the IRS! I might have to check your papers again.... Nah just kidding, no but seriously I work for the IRS and I draw as a hobby

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Post by: Archael on November 16, 2008, 10:12:06 pm

IRS?

IRS?

Oh, oh.. IRS Agent on FFH! lol

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Post by: Clockwork Seal on November 16, 2008, 10:13:33 pm

QuoteClockwork Seal your Rad and Lavian fit their character's perfectly!

I guess that makes that a good guess on my part! Best I could do was guess from the sprites in Rachael's video <_<

QuoteAlso that Pieke... beautiful, simply beauitiful!!

Why, thank you =*

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Post by: DarthPaul on November 16, 2008, 10:31:55 pm

Quote from: "GZGoten"Really? Not to scare you but I do take my work very seriously, and it just so happens my job is being an accountant/agent for the IRS! I might have to check your papers again.... Nah just kidding, no but seriously I work for the IRS and I draw as a hobby

Well thats good to know but i have yet to lie I really do make a living off of my artistic skill which sadly i might not be able to bring to the table here as it would go into my work and or free time to do a professional work of art, but as previously stated I shall bring the best work I can with time constraints in place. Dang I wish I was back in high school then I would have all the free time in the world to just draw.

EDIT: btw nice avatar the phrase is priceless

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Post by: Xifanie on November 16, 2008, 11:29:23 pm

Intelligence Russian Squad? I didn't know you were part of us. Even if our number is not big, it's hard to know each other.

Hope to see you with us on the battlefield, boy.

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Post by: akwikone on November 17, 2008, 09:20:11 am

GZGoten's ramza looks kinda like link did in wind waker, very well done

and I like the second Gaffgarion, I think it fits him better than the umber hulk with the sword

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Post by: DarthPaul on November 17, 2008, 10:10:16 pm

Great news everyone after an incident earlier today I have broken 3 of the 5 fingers/thumb on my drawing hand so I shall be out of commission until the new year at least......and yes it was a painful event.

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Post by: Zozma on November 17, 2008, 10:11:17 pm

well now its more like your drawing with the 3 fingers

oops i mean get well soon sorry to hear that..

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Post by: DarthPaul on November 17, 2008, 10:12:39 pm

Lol that actually cheered me up.

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Post by: Archael on November 17, 2008, 10:21:52 pm

IRS eh

welcome aboard fellow RUhaxkcer.RU

#1 russia hack team for salvate!!!

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Post by: GZGoten on December 05, 2008, 05:47:36 pm

Hope you all like
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg44/G-ZGoten/sample-f49b643ce1cc0e548275ecf01a6b.jpg)

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Post by: DarthPaul on December 05, 2008, 06:27:30 pm

Lol chibi

Very noice Goten.

What did you use as a medium and computer colored?

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Post by: AuraDragon on December 05, 2008, 07:31:54 pm

It's amazing! I'm setting that as my desktop image. :shock:

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Post by: Archael on December 05, 2008, 10:27:50 pm

you captured generic's looks PERFECTLY

this is amazingly well done

5/5

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Post by: AuraDragon on December 05, 2008, 11:30:50 pm

I spy with on my digital screen: Agrias, Cloud, Teta, Alma, Olan, Mustadio, a sick Squire, a Monk being squished, two shady characters, a Ninja pouncing on someone, and a Female Lancer breaking the rules by mounting a dragon, which isn't possible...

Lolz, I love that image.

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Post by: DarthPaul on December 05, 2008, 11:50:28 pm

The DK seems to be peeping on the female Archer

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Post by: AuraDragon on December 06, 2008, 12:28:27 am

Hey, is that Zalbag above Delita's head?

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Post by: Zephyr on December 06, 2008, 12:45:50 am

Yeah, that guy is the only person I couldn't figure out. Now that you mention it he does sorta look like zalbag

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Post by: Cheetah on December 06, 2008, 01:11:10 am

I thought it was Balthier?

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Post by: kenj_083 on December 06, 2008, 01:38:11 am

I thought it was Algus...

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Post by: DarthPaul on December 06, 2008, 09:12:56 am

Quote from: "kenj_083"I thought it was Algus...

Same here from the little bit of his armor you can see.

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Post by: LastingDawn on December 06, 2008, 01:08:01 pm

It's Algus, the very sneaky look and red clothes, gives that away, in any case, that is Amazing work! Now I can['t wait to see what you can do for Mercenaries art department! Chibi is never a bad thing, haha! Once again, positively terrific work!

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Post by: cade11 on December 07, 2008, 02:02:15 pm

I drew some pics, but its in the Spriting section under character art.

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Post by: The Damned on December 07, 2008, 02:14:23 pm

Hunh. I forgot to comment on GZGoten's picture even though I saw on Friday.

I quite like it even though I usually don't like chibi-style that much. I think I like it more because of the interactions between the classes, like the Male Mediator taking to the Male Geomancer who is trying to mediate, the Female Mediator having a nice chat with the Female Oracle, the Male Ninja pouncing on the Male Monk for no damn reason (you would think he would go after the Male Samurai right next to him), and the way that Black Chocobo struggles to fly while the Ahriman does it so effortlessly.

It makes it really fun to look over.

That said, I did find one small flaw: You got every class, including the PSP ones (I guess), but you left out the Male Calculator AFAICT. I found the Female Calculator after some looking, but unless I'm horribly mistaken, the Male Calculator is nowhere to be found and he should be a easy to spot with the anachronistic mohawk haircut.

Great job otherwise.

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Post by: psp master on March 07, 2009, 11:57:15 am

A very, very, very, very, VERY good pic!!
You are a pretty cool guy so here I officially make you one of the Chosen! We are people who doesn't afraid of Throw Stone.
The Chosen:
dtmr
me
Ramza
Luso
Squire

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Post by: LastingDawn on March 07, 2009, 01:19:22 pm

Eh heh... well it's actually been proven this guy didn't make the picture, it's no surprise he fled just after posting that.

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Post by: psp master on March 07, 2009, 01:36:17 pm

You lie!! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by: Caiman on April 05, 2009, 06:26:21 am

it was obvious that guy didnt make that pic...

i dont know why... but this is a style typical for japanese... and japanese usually only hang in japanese forums which we normal people wont understand in ages. :twisted:

*enough with the bashing*
:wink:

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Post by: LastingDawn on April 06, 2009, 02:30:39 pm

Heh, good point Cai Man.

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Post by: GZGoten on April 16, 2009, 10:38:03 am

:-P I need to log on more since I was already being accused of fleeing X-D

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Post by: LastingDawn on April 16, 2009, 11:23:08 am

Well, at least you give credit to where credit is due, welcome back.

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Post by: Asura on August 09, 2009, 03:50:14 am

Figured I'd start exploring other areas of the board. LastingDawn, are you still looking for concept artists or are you done with that phase of the hack?

I'll sketch something out tomorrow, early afternoon, and upload it if you still need some CA work done.

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Post by: LastingDawn on August 09, 2009, 04:04:49 am

Quote from: "dragonflame327"Figured I'd start exploring other areas of the board. LastingDawn, are you still looking for concept artists or are you done with that phase of the hack?

I'll sketch something out tomorrow, early afternoon, and upload it if you still need some CA work done.

Ah? Yes, indeed! We definitely need more concept artists, it is great to see another artist join the fray!

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Post by: Asura on August 09, 2009, 04:12:51 am

Quote from: "LastingDawn"Ah? Yes, indeed! We definitely need more concept artists, it is great to see another artist join the fray!

I'm glad to hear I have the opportunity to help out! I should have something done by early afternoon tomorrow. It'll only be a sketch so it won't take long.

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 09, 2009, 05:40:05 am

^ I have a request. :)
quick link for info: http://ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 4&start=80 (http://ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3294&start=80)

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Post by: Asura on August 09, 2009, 10:10:45 pm

Sorry, a bunch of stuff came up and I start talking to a close friend after a few years of little-to-no-contact, so I got delayed. Here it is though. Not perfect, just a quick sketch to give you an idea of what I can do.

http://www.geocities.com/dragonflame327 ... h08.09.jpg (http://www.geocities.com/dragonflame327/Gafgarion-sketch08.09.jpg)

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Post by: mav on August 09, 2009, 10:32:09 pm

THAT IS FUCKING AWESOME.

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Post by: LastingDawn on August 09, 2009, 10:39:40 pm

For a sketch made in one day that is incredible! With such limited time you made that?! I love all of the little details you put into this. It really helpss Gafgarion to stand out! What's your next sketch planned to be?

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 09, 2009, 10:44:07 pm

I suggest that you just give us the url instead.

Good job, though.

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Post by: Asura on August 09, 2009, 10:54:22 pm

I'm trying to download PS Elements. I'm doing way too much to switch to the Mac side of my computer at the moment. x.x That's where I have my Adobe Master Collection installed. I need $70 to buy Parallels already.

There. Uploaded to and old Geocities site since Elements has 1hr45mins left to DL. Fuck that. I hope the bandwidth holds out, lmao.

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Post by: Asura on August 09, 2009, 10:59:46 pm

Quote from: "LastingDawn"For a sketch made in one day that is incredible! With such limited time you made that?! I love all of the little details you put into this. It really helpss Gafgarion to stand out! What's your next sketch planned to be?

Took me maybe...30 mins to do that? Eh....it's really not much. I might do a version of Ramza from the Mercenaries demo, with his equipment.

I've also got a sketch of a planned illustration of a ninja/knight sitting on the corner of my drafting table, haha. That'll get done soon enough. It's a little cheesecake-y, but I like it.

Thanks Mav/MiKe. ^^

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Post by: Cheetah on August 09, 2009, 11:24:00 pm

Looks good. Definitely looking forward to what you can come up with.

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Post by: SplashWoman on August 19, 2009, 11:54:09 am

Hey guys,

New to the forum... just like you longtime fan and blah blah blah.

Always wanted Square to make me an true FFT sequel... same GFX, just new battles and story. Between Mercenaries and 1.3 I think I've found it.

Been lurking for a while, and since I can't so any sort of programming or anything really useful on that end, I thought I'd throw my hat in the ring for some artwork. Not that it helps, but w/e.

Work is pretty slow for the next few weeks, so I've got some time to do some drawing...

Attached is an 'in class notebook drawing' of a sort of dancer. Pretty sketchy, just showing my style.

Let me know if I can help/do anything. I'll also float around giving my warranted and unwarranted 2cents on anything and everything.

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Post by: mav on August 19, 2009, 12:02:06 pm

Whoa...I mean, whoa.

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Post by: Xifanie on August 19, 2009, 12:11:49 pm

Quote from: "mav"Whoa...I mean, whoa.

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Post by: LastingDawn on August 19, 2009, 04:16:05 pm

Seems like you'll be a great addition to the team! That's a very fine style you have there, pretty unique and not too exaggerated, it shows an understanding of the human anatomy to a good degree.

Hmm, have you seen the Blansch and Bolmna sprites on the site yet, by chance?

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Post by: Cheetah on August 20, 2009, 12:00:17 am

Very nice... I look forward to see what one of your drawings will look like with more armor and cloths. Plus more finely polished if this is little more than a sketch.

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Post by: LastingDawn on August 20, 2009, 07:35:48 pm

Repost because our forums lack a "move" button for seperate posts, so...

Quote from: "SplashWoman"My plans for the evening just got edited, so instead of finishing drawing from last night.... its pool party then out to the bars.

So I thought I'd put up what I'm currently thinking/working on for the Alicia picture I'm doing....

I've got some info from LD though PM and have been using that and the pic from Eternal as reference and kind of going from there.

Purple - hair fluff
Red - High collar/ neck shawl
Blue - Those hanging thingies
Green - Armbands

Since she is very 'earthy' I am trying to do the fur/vines/flowers thing... she is going to be sitting on a stump... and again this is only partially done.

Ignore the hands/gloves, not really happy with how they're working. It doesn't seem very natural.

Also if I'm in the wrong thread feel free to move me. Any input is appreciated. If it is looking like I'm straying from the intent let me know.
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/AliciaProgress.jpg)

As I said in the other thread, it looks phenemonal but I feel below the waist is a bit much, as Alicia is a very reserved girl I don't think that pose would fit her very well.

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Post by: SplashWoman on August 20, 2009, 07:41:57 pm

@ LD

Copied from other thread:

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I'm also not done yet... I don't really have much of the bottom filled in as far as clothes go and its a fairly low dpi scan... the legs are there for reference mostly. Trust me the skirt and long boots will be there! It isn't Pantsless Fantasy Tactics after all... except for Buttpants Ramza of course.
"

I'll keep all future posts in this forum. Thanks again.

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Post by: LastingDawn on August 20, 2009, 07:43:02 pm

A bit too late to amend my previous comment, eh? Ah well, I look forward to seeing your future progress, you have no idea how much of a surprise this is to me!

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Post by: Archael on August 20, 2009, 07:49:05 pm

Quote from: "SplashWoman"Hey guys,

New to the forum...

your drawings are nice, they remind me of the notebook drawings I used to do in highschool

it's always nice to see some sexy female curves in drawings, but there's something weird going on in the waist of this one:

(http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/files/classdancer_374.jpg)

the pelvis only sticks out once on women with a broad pelvic bone, you have a second set of bumps there.. and oblique muscles don't jut out like that. her lower body is huge compared to her upper dimensions, but I guess that is the exaggerated female comic book look, which is sexy

otherwise 5/5

ever tried your hand at a sprite? your attention to detail could make some very good sprites

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Post by: Cheetah on August 20, 2009, 08:07:57 pm

That is very impressive Splashwoman. I'm really looking forward to seeing this finished, the improvement in quality is very apparent. Though I have to say that I think you should really drop the crazy hair colors LD. I love Zozma's sprites, but pink hair really doesn't do it for me.

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Post by: LastingDawn on August 20, 2009, 08:12:51 pm

What better way to show innocence, yet passion? Hair colors are largely symbolic. As they are more akin to the color of roses. The color "pink" is a mix of Red (Red being Passion) and White (White meaning innocence) therefore it fits her role.

Even more so with Lavian, Purple means Regal, as well as Mysterious, I'd say that Lavian certainly has the Regal part down, and... well I don't want to reveal too much. There is a brown color hair for Alicia as well, but I just feel that loses a bit of the impact meant from the symbolism based around the characters.

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Post by: mav on August 20, 2009, 08:36:33 pm

Quote from: "Voldemort"ever tried your hand at a sprite? your attention to detail could make some very good sprites

This, this, this! The faces on both these drawings are fucking gorgeous--I love their expressions. Hot damn, you're so talented.

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Post by: Cheetah on August 20, 2009, 10:01:38 pm

I have just always been a fan of the original natural hair colors used in FFT. I'm not a fan of the anime influenced crazy hair colors.

WAIT! All these drawings have noses. Blasphemy I say!

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Post by: beawulfx on August 21, 2009, 12:02:11 am

Yeah the faces really are exceptional, I mean it's impressive all over but the faces really stand out.

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Post by: SplashWoman on August 21, 2009, 05:31:23 pm

Thanks guys... appreciate it.

I'm putting this one to bed. Going to attempt some color this afternoon... which I'm horrid at.

Not happy with the boring boots... very bland. I'll try to jazz them up with color. Not happy with the feet either. Hands are too small etc. Meh.

I'll just edit this post after I get some color down. LD if you've got a specific color scheme in mine let me know... I'm planning on earth tones.

Aside... Can I get images inside spoiler tags [Without uploading and linking from a third party site] so I don't extend thread space etc?

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Post by: Asura on August 21, 2009, 05:34:22 pm

Well, SplashWoman, I have to say I'm impressed. You have a nice attention to detail, which I am really happy to see. I look forward to your future work, and your finished design for Alicia!

Voldemort, you have a nice grasp of anatomy for someone who doesn't really seem to draw. :P

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 21, 2009, 06:08:34 pm

Yeah. I can't wait to see it finished. :)

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Post by: LastingDawn on August 21, 2009, 06:53:37 pm

Unfortunately not a possibility, but this version is really shaping up! Also feel free to use any color palette you wish, I'm in not direction to tell the artists how their job should be done, hehe.

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Post by: Archael on August 21, 2009, 08:14:56 pm

Quote from: "dragonflame327"Voldemort, you have a nice grasp of anatomy for someone who doesn't really seem to draw. :wink:

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Post by: Asura on August 21, 2009, 10:40:54 pm

Quote from: "Voldemort"I draw

Oh do you, sir? I'll have the scan the forum for anything you've done.

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Post by: Archael on August 22, 2009, 09:59:24 pm

Quote from: "dragonflame327"
Quote from: "Voldemort"I draw

Oh do you, sir? I'll have the scan the forum for anything you've done.

I havent uploaded anything to FFH

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Post by: LastingDawn on August 24, 2009, 11:53:59 am

Repost from Title Screen Thread

Well, Ramza is normally garbed in his second outfit, Rad looks as he does in Mercenaries, (Warrior v1.2 which you can find in the Custom sprite download secion) and a helmetless Gafgarion which you can also see in the custom sprite downloads. Unfortunately my art skills are not good to show such a thing, my art skills aren't really good enough to show... well anything.

Well, aside from the planned FF-classic Silhouette of a character (or characters) (I plan for it to be Rad sitting in a tree looking up, Ramza sitting at the trunk looking down and Gafgarion's gaze steadied)

Going off of this (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=Final+Fantasy+Logo&rlz=1R2GGLL_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=77aSSq6MFciTlAflv8SYDA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1) page, for inspiration, if you need any more specifics or the like, just ask for them and I will gladly give more indepth descriptions, if need be.

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Post by: DarthPaul on August 28, 2009, 10:36:30 pm

Here ya go.

(http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/files/gambler_174.png)

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Post by: DarthPaul on August 29, 2009, 10:09:49 pm

Zefane

(http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/files/zefane_945.png)

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Post by: DarthPaul on August 30, 2009, 02:42:51 pm

Warder.

(http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/files/warder_956.png)

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Post by: winshmo on August 30, 2009, 03:12:42 pm

I really like to thank you guys for making this my favorite game more interesting with your patches, mods, everything! I'm really looking forward to mercenaries and that it would hopefully come out soon.

Concerning char design i would really like to help, here's Rad based on Clockworks initial design and reworked. Hope you guys like it..

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Post by: beawulfx on August 30, 2009, 03:14:58 pm

Very nice! Another great artist joins the Mercenaries fold. What good fortune that all of these people are showing up and adding so much to the board. I love it.

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Post by: LastingDawn on August 30, 2009, 03:16:33 pm

Whoa! That is just... Whoa that looks great! So much polish and finesse, I love how you even kept his small spear. Best of all this is done in Yoshida's very own style! Welcome aboard Winshmo. And what a first post indeed!

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Post by: mav on August 30, 2009, 03:25:40 pm

My goodness! Where are all these talented artists coming from?!?! Your style definitely put a smile on my face, winshmo. Now I wonder, would you be able to do portraits to use in game as well? If you could draw custom portraits from scratch I would truly be blown away.

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Post by: winshmo on August 30, 2009, 03:30:53 pm

thanks im glad to be of help and yeah I could do portraits- but do they have to be pixelized?

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Post by: SplashWoman on August 30, 2009, 03:47:40 pm

Female Gambler...

Went off of the sprite and the portrait. This was a quick one.

Legs got a little wonky on me... didn't really do what I was hoping with them :/... espc with the spandex shorts. Also got very lazy at the end with the playing cards. Went detail-light too.

Not sure what is up next... think LD wants the revenge-driven housewife lady.

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Post by: LastingDawn on August 30, 2009, 04:08:14 pm

So much art in one day! I am flabbergasted! So much talent all in one place, thank you all for your continued support and may I say that Female Gambler is definitely one pretty looking lady.

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Post by: winshmo on August 30, 2009, 04:45:25 pm

is Ramza darker in mercenaries or is still the girlish heroic type?

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Post by: LastingDawn on August 30, 2009, 04:51:57 pm

No he's rather darker in Mercenaries, with a larger emphasis on Cause and Effect, Ramza isn't exactly as Lawful Good aligned as he is in the original game, his personality is explored to a much deeper extent, I'd like to believe that an emphasis centering around the three mercenaries and the three knights allows for a rather deep story.

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Post by: mav on August 30, 2009, 05:17:10 pm

Quote from: "winshmo"thanks im glad to be of help and yeah I could do portraits- but do they have to be pixelized?

Technically, yes, but I think I can work with the images to get 'em down to the necessary colors and all that jazz. Some of the new sprites would really benefit from portraits that aren't modifications of existing portraits (that's really all I do)...So if you can draw from scratch and color nicely, we could eventually get things working nicely.

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 30, 2009, 06:13:15 pm

I love you winshmo. Please join and don't leave the team!

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 30, 2009, 06:18:45 pm

Oh btw, here's my past artworks.. (I'm not good at drawing, but you can count on me on image edtings)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/fftmercenarieszodiac.jpg)
Showing off Ramza and the Zodiac, Gaf being the same majestic boss, and the commoner Rad.

--

Male gambler: (drawn)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/thegamblersketch.jpg)

NEXT ARTWORK:
The Gallione Triumvate tag!

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Post by: winshmo on August 30, 2009, 06:34:14 pm

here's lavian but i think i made her a little bit too provoking.. maybe thats why she was assaulted by those perverted mages at mandalia plain

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Post by: LastingDawn on August 30, 2009, 06:44:24 pm

Not one bit, that is Perfect! Her look is especially cruel, her clenched fist shows that she is a rather commanding and possessive woman. All the little details are fantastic! The look in her eyes is closd, almost vapid, which is perfect for Lavian's character! Another hit out of the park with this one!

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Post by: mav on August 30, 2009, 07:21:39 pm

Very nice. Fierce and aloof, with a touch of sexy.

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 31, 2009, 03:10:18 am

I looooove it. Can we these arts in-game!?

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Post by: winshmo on August 31, 2009, 04:15:59 am

Sure use em. Next i'll be working on the loading screen you guys want, the one with ramza, rad and gaf it'll take a bit longer with colors and bg and all..

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 31, 2009, 05:07:50 am

Quote from: "winshmo"Sure use em. Next i'll be working on the loading screen you guys want, the one with ramza, rad and gaf it'll take a bit longer with colors and bg and all..

Don't worry about the colors. :)

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Post by: winshmo on August 31, 2009, 06:07:50 am

not yet finished work, would like some comments on rad's position, ramza would be kneeling holding a blade of grass, gaf would be in the back looking into the bg

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on August 31, 2009, 06:24:19 am

OMG.....This is awesome.
Wow..... I mean.....WOW!!!
Amazing!!!!
Wait, is Rad sitting/leaning on the tree with his butt?
Hmm....I think it may look a bit nicer if Rad is exactly this position, but standing. You know...like those standing up to take a look or something ^^
But this is nice too...Just the way he sit/lean is abit funny. Perhaps one leg stretch and another bend ^^

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on August 31, 2009, 06:40:53 am

This is not bad too ^^

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Post by: mav on August 31, 2009, 07:08:29 am

Very cool! Though what is he sitting on? A stump of some kind? Right now it kinda looks like he's floating. Hopefully we can adapt the completed image so that it'll give off this vibe (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=final+fantasy+logo&gbv=2&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10).

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 31, 2009, 07:11:51 am

That's excellent, winshmo.

Sir LD, if winshmo will finish it, Then, should I change Agrias and Gafgarion in the title screen
to rad, gaf and ramza, instead?

I think that would fit Mercenaries better.

@ winshmo,
The pictures will be used will be like.. the images in the link given by mav. (The colored silhouettes)

And will be carried out to this image:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/MiKeMiTchi/ffhmorig-3.jpg)

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Post by: winshmo on August 31, 2009, 09:36:57 am

better? I also added some armor and details as well as gloves seeing mostly all characters in FFT wear gloves..

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on August 31, 2009, 09:50:58 am

YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT ^^
AMAZING!!! ASTOUNISHING!!!!
REALLY AWESOME DUDE!!!! YOU'RE THE MAN ^^
I can't wait to see what you have for Ramza and Gafgarion ^^

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Post by: Cheetah on August 31, 2009, 09:55:06 am

Very much improved upon winshmo. This looks amazing.

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Post by: LastingDawn on August 31, 2009, 01:20:27 pm

I sleep for twelver hours, but have I really awoken? These are great! Your attention to detail and expression truly shines through! The wind is blowing, Rad has a very whimsical look while you can tell Ramza is absorbed in memory, that is looking fantastic!

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Post by: beawulfx on August 31, 2009, 02:04:47 pm

Incredible art, I really love it. Can't wait to see Gaf in there as well. Thanks for contributing such great stuff.

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on August 31, 2009, 04:05:58 pm

Freaking Genius! haha. :)

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Post by: Zozma on August 31, 2009, 04:10:19 pm

these arts are great, love the Lavian, Rad and Female gambler!

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Post by: mav on August 31, 2009, 04:22:42 pm

Wow! That's Ch. 1 Ramza, right? Should he have a cape; I don't really remember...

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Post by: LastingDawn on August 31, 2009, 04:29:25 pm

Nope, that's Chapter 2 Ramza, you can tell by the spiky shoulderpads.

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Post by: mav on August 31, 2009, 04:31:22 pm

Ah. I think it was the ponytail that through me off...

Carry on.

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on August 31, 2009, 11:55:23 pm

WOW.....Ramza is AMAZING!!!!!!
I can say Gafgarion would be awesome too ^^
Can't wait.

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 01, 2009, 02:21:43 am

@ winshmo,

edit: deleted

hmm.. no, nevermind.
I'll be the one to adjust the contrast.

Do you use Photoshop, by any chance?

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Post by: winshmo on September 01, 2009, 03:22:44 am

^ ^ thanx.. I use flash for the lineart and photoshop for coloring mike.. Hopefully I'll be able to upload the finished image tom, a bit busy today..

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 01, 2009, 04:18:49 am

Okay. I'll just inform you a bit on what to do after if you can. :)
Sorry.. for my impatience. I wish you'd understand.

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Post by: LastingDawn on September 01, 2009, 12:42:59 pm

Well keep in mind that's Only for the logo, any art style is fine to show as production art or scenes in the actual game itself.

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Post by: mav on September 01, 2009, 04:35:36 pm

Hmm...if the logo appears on the new title screen, won't the whole image look a little busy? Whatever, production art is production art--everything will be awesome in its own right.

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 01, 2009, 09:16:04 pm

Okay. Do whatever you want winshmo.

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Post by: winshmo on September 02, 2009, 12:49:37 pm

i was browsing the net for gafgarion armor reference when i found this.. seems like a good reference for a job sprite

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Post by: LastingDawn on September 02, 2009, 12:55:50 pm

Whoa, she looks pretty cool, pretty similar to the ...

(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/51-DarkKnightDesign.jpg)

Dual Weilding isn't Normally openly available in Mercenaries although... if she were a special class, they can break any rule they'd like! ENTD rules that day after all. I could see her as one of the mercenary leaders later met up with in the story, she does have an authorative air about her. She'll definitely be kept in mind to be made into a sprite.

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Post by: winshmo on September 02, 2009, 01:01:06 pm

i see the heads are from the anime idolmaster which makes parody of a lot of games hahaha

and ramza should be like this.. more manly.. esp coz in the psp version he really sounds gay

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Post by: LastingDawn on September 02, 2009, 01:01:56 pm

Oh? I've never heard of the show, is it any good?

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Post by: winshmo on September 02, 2009, 01:05:10 pm

sadly, i havent watched it either.. must be a wierd anime having the characters cosplay computer games

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Post by: Cheetah on September 02, 2009, 01:09:03 pm

Wow I really like that first design that Winshmo posted. What job would she be though, generic holy knight?

The second one is basically a female version of Zalbag.

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Post by: LastingDawn on September 02, 2009, 01:15:11 pm

Quote from: "winshmo"i see the heads are from the anime idolmaster which makes parody of a lot of games hahaha

and ramza should be like this.. more manly.. esp coz in the psp version he really sounds gay

I Must disagree with this statement in the PSP version he sounds almost Exactly as I had expected him to, Ramza is a very gentle person, he's naive and idealistic and plays foil to Delita who is a hardliner that has good reason to be. The only person he tries Not to work out his problems with is oddly enough Gafgarion in the original FFT. It fits Ramza's very gentle personality, also the fellow who VA'd Ramza also was the voice actor of Reddas in FFXII, who also VA'd Hermes in Futurama.

EDIT: Hmm, she doesn't exactly look well to do in terms of equipment or money, her equipment is Very plain looking. I still say have her set up as one of the other mercenary leaders the Gafgarion Troupe runs into.

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Post by: Archael on September 02, 2009, 01:39:26 pm

(http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/files/cool_913.jpg)

that is the most badass fft lancer drawing I have ever seen

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Post by: SilvasRuin on September 02, 2009, 01:58:39 pm

I second that. I still can't get over how awesome that pic is.

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 02, 2009, 08:24:47 pm

WOW....These are awesome.
The lancer is amazing!!!!
And the girl too....by the way, who is she?? ^^

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Post by: SilvasRuin on September 02, 2009, 09:02:38 pm

jimmyjw88, I direct you to this quote:

Quote from: "winshmo"i see the heads are from the anime idolmaster which makes parody of a lot of games hahaha

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Post by: Vanya on September 02, 2009, 09:06:44 pm

Is that like a female version of Zalbag?

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 02, 2009, 09:26:08 pm

(http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/files/cool_913.jpg)

Ramza should be like this. He rocks.

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Post by: LastingDawn on September 02, 2009, 10:58:08 pm

Not sure which Ramza they're trying to represent... as that is neither FFT's Ramza nor Mercenaries. Sure he looks "menacing"and has a scowl on his face but that's not really Ramza. It's a great picture, don't misunderstand, I just feel Ramza isn't very well portrayed in it.

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Post by: SilvasRuin on September 02, 2009, 11:01:29 pm

Ramza heading into murond to take back his sister? I dunno, I'd be pretty pissed at that point if I were him.

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Post by: LastingDawn on September 02, 2009, 11:20:35 pm

Well if that were the case he would be in his fourth chapter gear, though of course this is only surmision on my part, I've seen pictures of Cadet Delita and Mercenary Ramza fighting, so... maybe just a slip of the... mind? Eh well.

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Post by: Vanya on September 02, 2009, 11:25:01 pm

That looks like ch.2/3 Ramza to me. The only difference is that his armor seems darker than normal like in the PSP cut scenes.

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Post by: SilvasRuin on September 02, 2009, 11:54:48 pm

Whoops. No, that was a slipup on my part. Maybe when he was going after Alma at Riovanes? Sure, he is an idealist, but I could see him with a look that could kill when it comes to someone threatening Alma. Malak probably didn't garner very pleasant looks until his death and revival on the rooftop.

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Post by: LastingDawn on September 03, 2009, 12:19:34 am

Very good point, haha! I must have been a bit aggravated (at Dissidia... grr!!!) when I said that. I do happen to have that piece in my collection and it is one of my favorites. It is extremely nitty and gritty, and that is where its appeal comes from.

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 03, 2009, 01:31:43 am

Quote from: "SilvasRuin"jimmyjw88, I direct you to this quote:
Quote from: "winshmo"i see the heads are from the anime idolmaster which makes parody of a lot of games hahaha

So you mean the first picture is from anime? And second is female Zalbag? Wow....That's nice.

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Post by: winshmo on September 03, 2009, 02:37:33 pm

final poses with gafgarion in it.. hope you like it

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Post by: LastingDawn on September 03, 2009, 02:51:44 pm

Very nice! You can tell that Gafgarion is always wary of his surroundings, so he turns his back only to peer over his shoulder to assure is ward and subordinate aren't doing anything foolish. The look in his eye is strict yet gentle all at once, hehe. If Gafgarion has a soft spot it would be for his own troupe.

That is Fantastic! Would you also consider doing the logo as well? The logo is planned to be very reminiscent of other games in the FF series, silhouette of the three, in a similar way to this picture. (The original plan was to have Rad looking up in a tree, Ramza looking down at the root of the tree with Gafgarion's pose steadied looking straight)

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Post by: winshmo on September 03, 2009, 03:12:55 pm

yeah thanks to mike's link I have an idea on what to make fore the logo

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Post by: beawulfx on September 03, 2009, 04:04:14 pm

That's beautiful, really impressive. The only thing odd I notice is that it looks kinda like a hankerchief is sticking out of Gafgarions... rear end, but I'm guessing it is something that is in front of him, hanging down?

I love your style though, it's fantastic.

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Post by: mav on September 03, 2009, 04:18:23 pm

HOLY SHIT. Though I agree with beawulf about Gafgarion's kerchief, I gotta say this image is fucking beeeeeeautiful. Very nice winshmo, very nice. I love how all three of 'em look like they're wrapped up in their own thoughts.

Look at Gafgarion! He looks so damn badass. This image is fucking brilliant.

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Post by: Archael on September 03, 2009, 04:20:30 pm

very nice

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Post by: winshmo on September 03, 2009, 04:35:26 pm

thanks.. beawulf-mav, yup its his loincloth from the front, gonna fix it with some shading XD

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 03, 2009, 06:23:43 pm

^ Hey, I'll try to do the logo, too.

Nice job, btw!!

here's a PS tut link:
http://www.agonyagogo.com/updates/ffeff ... ffect.html (http://www.agonyagogo.com/updates/ffeffect/ffeffect.html)

I don't have PS. I use GIMP.
here: (a bit rushed..)

EDIT: posted v2

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 04, 2009, 12:46:05 am

WOW.....And I mean.....WOW!!!!!!!! HOLYSHIT...THIS IS AMAZING!!! FREAKING FANTASTIC!!!!!
Amazing work winshmo....Just AMAZING.

And Mike, that's looking awesome ^^
Great job. I think the first should be better due to Rad's hand placing on the tree.
The second one looks abit funny on Rad's hand as his hand position looks like hands up in the air but we know that his hand is on the tree. ^^
However, second would fit well in FFLogo as it is on the right, like all the other FFs.

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Post by: SilvasRuin on September 04, 2009, 12:49:54 am

No offense, but that looks horrible as is. It also looks nothing like the traditional FF logos, the way LD has said he wants them to look. It is a very nice image on its own, but plugging it into the game like that ruins both.

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Post by: Eternal on September 04, 2009, 12:52:50 am

Would it be possible to get someone to do Amano-esque art for Mercs? By that I mean the watercolor-like feel.

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 04, 2009, 01:09:40 am

Quote from: "SilvasRuin"No offense, but that looks horrible as is. It also looks nothing like the traditional FF logos, the way LD has said he wants them to look. It is a very nice image on its own, but plugging it into the game like that ruins both.

Awww...really? Sad...

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Post by: SilvasRuin on September 04, 2009, 01:13:44 am

It has potential to be adapted into a good logo. I'm just saying... it needs some work before it will look right for the purpose. (And to clarify, it looks awesome when it isn't being crammed into the game.)

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 04, 2009, 01:20:49 am

So meaning the art that winshmo made should be scale down before putting it in as the logo?

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Post by: SilvasRuin on September 04, 2009, 01:23:28 am

Scaled down more and scaled down better, at the very least. It is also missing the traditional shading and color gradiation. Here's a whole page of logos to compare to: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Logo ... al_Fantasy (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Logos_of_Final_Fantasy)

Note that most are also very close to the size of the logo (albeit with a portrait orientation rather than landscape or a roughly round shape for most of them), the exceptions being huge ones like XII and ones like X that border the whole logo.

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Post by: LastingDawn on September 04, 2009, 01:32:16 am

Well it's meant to be a silhouette in the style of the other games, I don't feel that does very much justice to both the title screen and the picture. I think Winshmo has a good idea, for such.

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Post by: Sephirot24 on September 04, 2009, 02:51:20 am

I agree 100% with Silvas. The image is awesome on it's own, but it will take careful modifications to fit right as the logo and resemble other FF logos. Also I'm not 100% that same image will do to convert it into the logo. It's marvelous as concept, but to achieve something like the original logos you'll want something smaller, with more black parts. If you look at the picture it's like 90% white, and the borders and such are too thin to convert into a FF logo. Maybe if you make the striped shades into full black shades it'll work better..

IDK if I'm explaining myself properly...

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 04, 2009, 03:56:35 am

Tsk. Sorry.

I didn't say it was good after all. It was pixelated and does not look like a traditional logo.
I don't feel well.

but still.. I would like to defend myself.
First of all, have you read and seen the link in the past pages!? I requested what you want.
I also posted a tutorial for making a LOGO there. Go to page 7&8 if you want evidence.

I know what FF logos are, and I know what to do.
Also, in that post, I rush it a bit. I must say, I'm impatient.
I wanted to cram. Well, if you want to show what you can do to the image,
then go. Find a way to help somehow. Also, the logo depends on the image.
I didn't make that, so there.

I'm not good at editing line arts so i didn't bother placing more black.
But, I KNOW WHAT A FF LOGO LOOKS LIKE.

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Post by: SilvasRuin on September 04, 2009, 05:17:01 am

Except for that first comment, all of my recent ones here were directed at jimmyjw88 (and you'd think the context of the posts would make that fairly obvious). I was pointing out to him why I thought the way I did. Don't be so sensitive and don't take things so personally. Only one of the comments were meant for you anyways.

Also, for the record, I am fully aware and fully admit to being entirely unable to produce half as good art as the artists here, and you will never see me claim otherwise. Considering that, criticism of the constructive kind and inputing opinions is about all I CAN do. If you would rather I stay silent when I see flaws, then I'm afraid I have to disappoint. It's like Asmo has demonstrated time and again: people need honest criticism if they are to improve.

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Post by: winshmo on September 04, 2009, 05:19:47 am

dont take it out on mike, i think he was just a tad bit excited and wanted to see how it would turn out if it was converted into a logo.. but that piece was made for bg purposes and such it would not look well and would be far off from actual FF logos..

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Post by: winshmo on September 04, 2009, 07:34:19 am

how about this for the logo...

EDIT:

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Post by: mav on September 04, 2009, 07:35:49 am

Hmmm...the logo is part of the background and technically has to be 16 colors, right? It's gonna be tough to make it look good with such limitations...

EDIT: Nice new logo! That one may be easier to work with.

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 04, 2009, 08:40:26 am

You're good.

Sorry guys. My sickness and stress conquered me. I apologize.

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 04, 2009, 08:41:54 am

Quote from: "MiKeMiTchi"You're good.

Sorry guys. My sickness and stress conquered me. I apologize.

font not fixed..

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Post by: winshmo on September 04, 2009, 08:46:28 am

try using outlines on the text rather than feathering

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 04, 2009, 08:55:37 am

I think you should do it,

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Post by: winshmo on September 04, 2009, 09:25:42 am

can I has the typefaces.. XD better if .psd file

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 04, 2009, 09:34:57 am

I don't use PS.

this was the traditional font:
http://www.dafont.com/search.php?psize= ... al+fantasy (http://www.dafont.com/search.php?psize=m&q=final+fantasy)

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 04, 2009, 10:25:03 am

I'm sorry for the trouble and misundertanding that I've caused.
Silvas was just explaining it to me what and why he feel as such about the logo. All the comments were meant for me.
Well, I apologise for such misunderstanding; Silvas and Mike. Sorry for being instigator.

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Post by: Cheetah on September 04, 2009, 11:42:05 am

Winshmo this is really really good, wow. My only comment is that Ramza's head looks a bit wide for the angle he has it turned at. The proportion it just a tad off maybe. But really great and I look forward to seeing this as the background image of Mercs. I can't wait to see what it will look like once you color it.

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Post by: Sephirot24 on September 04, 2009, 12:24:58 pm

Now THAT looks absolutely like a legit logo. Great work!

Also, don't take it too personally Mike, we were just saying.. we weren't insulting or anything also. And if I was able to do something like that I'd have offered my help. Your work is awesome guys, but still expect a little of criticism (like good ol' Asmo would say).

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Post by: LastingDawn on September 04, 2009, 01:14:55 pm

That is... that is... whoa... that is... whoa... this is Fantastic! Greater then anything I had ever dreamed up! Talk about setting off from the base, haha! This is so much more stylish, artistic, and just in better sense! And it tells you first and foremost who are the main characters as soon as you load up the game! I'm a horrible critiquer and can only Praise this fantastic piece of work!

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Post by: SilvasRuin on September 04, 2009, 02:45:35 pm

Quote from: "jimmyjw88"I'm sorry for the trouble and misundertanding that I've caused.
Silvas was just explaining it to me what and why he feel as such about the logo. All the comments were meant for me.
Well, I apologise for such misunderstanding; Silvas and Mike. Sorry for being instigator.

Nonsense. Why are you apologizing? It's not like you were insulting anything or trying to troll. Don't feel sorry when you're not guilty of anything.

And as to the logo: Holy shit!

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Post by: Sephirot24 on September 04, 2009, 02:49:37 pm

That logo is just awesome. It only needs a recolor to fit the yellow - orange - redness of the Mercenaries Title screen.

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Post by: beawulfx on September 04, 2009, 02:51:35 pm

That's really amazing. Really professional. Wow. I am just in awe. That is going to look beautiful, really, this is so cool.

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Post by: Cheetah on September 04, 2009, 04:41:15 pm

That is so very very cool. Definitely keep that original piece of art around too. My only critique would be that Rad's head looks a lot smaller than his partner's. If anything I think you should shrink Gaf and Ramza's. This is very cool stuff to see.

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 04, 2009, 06:21:27 pm

yep.. my try..

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Post by: LastingDawn on September 04, 2009, 06:33:22 pm

That definitely adds something to it, the only thing I don't like is that the Agrias/Gafgarion Title screen seems to disappear because of it, is it possible to keep both?

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Post by: Eternal on September 04, 2009, 07:08:17 pm

Maybe have an Agrias/Gafgarion silhouette in the background?

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Post by: mav on September 04, 2009, 09:35:58 pm

Quote from: "LastingDawn"That definitely adds something to it, the only thing I don't like is that the Agrias/Gafgarion Title screen seems to disappear because of it, is it possible to keep both?

This has been a concern of mine as well: we had a nice looking, somewhat elaborate background but the new logo will likely eclipse that image. I'm guessing this is why the title screens in most Final Fantasy games include a light image (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/File:FFT_WotL_Menu.png) for a background or a solid black/white background.

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Post by: Sephirot24 on September 04, 2009, 11:44:32 pm

Personally I like Mike's try a lot... even if the Agrias backgrounds can't be seen...

I'll take my final veredict after seeing more verisons though..

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Post by: Archael on September 04, 2009, 11:49:07 pm

(http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/files/titlemerc_227.png)

that's great

even if the agrias backround disappears

gaff is much more important than she is to merc anyway

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 04, 2009, 11:51:23 pm

Wow....And...Really WOW....This is fantastic!

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Post by: Vanya on September 05, 2009, 12:37:29 am

That looks REALLY nice!

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 05, 2009, 01:03:33 am

Hmm.. maybe I can include agrias, too.
Hmm.. I'll also try to make the titlescreen more similar to WotL.

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Post by: mav on September 05, 2009, 01:07:03 am

Very nice image. That's without the color limitations, right?

You don't have to do this, but what does it look like with the gradient flipped?

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 05, 2009, 01:15:13 am

Quote from: "mav"Very nice image. That's without the color limitations, right?

You don't have to do this, but what does it look like with the gradient flipped?

I think* there is no limitation, since the titlescreen is in .JPG format.
I'll try.

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Post by: LastingDawn on September 05, 2009, 01:22:46 am

Hmm, not really sure what you're talking about Mav, the title screen can have a very high number of colors, hehe.

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Post by: mav on September 05, 2009, 01:35:32 am

Seriously? That's great news. I just kinda assumed that there was some stupid restriction on the color limit, like with everything else. But if not, then this will definitely work!

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 05, 2009, 05:16:10 am

Wow...Thats really great news. Finally, much more colours' availability.

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 05, 2009, 06:16:49 am

I posted the update for the title screen in the Official Title screen thread..
http://ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3294 (http://ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3294)

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Post by: Asmo X on September 05, 2009, 08:43:00 am

Theres too much crap in the background. Keep your new logo and the map background. Ditch the Agrias and Gafgarion picture.

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 05, 2009, 08:53:58 am

Taken into consideration. Update posted in the titlescreen thread.

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Post by: winshmo on October 03, 2009, 04:02:17 pm

Random stuff just for a break :lol:

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Post by: LastingDawn on October 03, 2009, 04:13:25 pm

Hah! Pretty interesting! Also it would be great to see you do a serious group picture with the Knights of Konoe. Very nice for just "fooling around" though, haha!

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Post by: winshmo on October 03, 2009, 04:21:03 pm

well if I would line them 3 up seriously, Agrias would be a little out of place hahaha

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 03, 2009, 07:30:44 pm

Best work ever. hahaha~!
Coool! I wish I could do that, too, winshmo!

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Post by: Sephirot24 on October 03, 2009, 08:44:47 pm

rofl xD
that was a nice one

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Post by: LastingDawn on October 03, 2009, 09:03:56 pm

Well the Konoe Knights are the main antagonists to the Mercenaries, so it is fitting that the three of them would get a group picture.

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 03, 2009, 09:34:37 pm

Hahaha. Very nice winshmo, very nice ^^

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Post by: mav on October 11, 2009, 06:36:28 pm

HAH! That was adorable. Great job, winshmo. There's always room for comedy in FFT.

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Post by: Xeno3 on November 03, 2009, 08:34:10 pm

WOW the work here is simply amazing

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Post by: Archael on November 03, 2009, 09:18:28 pm

wow did you make that? thats funny

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Post by: winshmo on November 05, 2009, 07:15:21 am

while working on some secret characters I decided to take a break and do some bgs for practice.. turns out Myan fits well for a happy Holloween!

So, HAPPY HOLLOWEEN FFH!

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Post by: mav on November 05, 2009, 07:31:45 am

Awesome! The cemetery looks very cool. Great job.

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Post by: winshmo on November 05, 2009, 07:36:26 am

thanx mav

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Post by: Kagebunji on November 05, 2009, 08:24:27 am

You have talent Winshmo, I'm impressed by all your work so far. Good job!

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 05, 2009, 08:41:58 am

Yes, that cemetary looks amazing ^^
Very nice winshmo.

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Post by: LastingDawn on November 05, 2009, 02:45:24 pm

Oh, very impressive and fitting to the character of Myan, keep up the great work!

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Post by: winshmo on November 06, 2009, 05:23:51 am

Algus: what do animals know of honor?!

T_T for Gretchen

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on November 06, 2009, 11:19:14 am

Nicely done as usual.
Do some bible black~! hahaha!

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 06, 2009, 12:20:06 pm

Again, very nice winshmo ^^
Lol, Mike.

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Post by: winshmo on November 06, 2009, 12:42:42 pm

thanx! but bible black amp.. them be mah secret stash lol

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Post by: SilvasRuin on November 06, 2009, 12:44:05 pm

Very nice images.

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Post by: LastingDawn on November 06, 2009, 02:17:41 pm

Wow, you made Gretchen look even more tragic then before! That's very high quality work, especially to how you incorporated the rain into the picture.

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Post by: Sephirot24 on November 06, 2009, 03:09:06 pm

Do you have a devianart page Win?

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Post by: mav on November 06, 2009, 08:42:46 pm

Oh man, the raindrops and desaturated colors makes that look like such a sad scene, and those gut-wrenching tears help too. Hopefully it'll be even more tragic once we learn her story. Great work as usual, Win.

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Post by: winshmo on November 06, 2009, 11:37:34 pm

@sephirot
yup I have but its less updated than what I post here, lots of old stuff there mostly from 2 years ago haha..
winshmo.deviantart.com

@mav
thanx dude

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Post by: Zozma on November 07, 2009, 05:54:47 am

really like your stuff wishmo

(its so cool to see art off of these sprites! this project is great)

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 08, 2009, 11:26:05 am

What do you guys think of this as a portrait? Could it work? A sudden rough sketch that came up while studying ^^

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Post by: mav on November 08, 2009, 11:45:01 am

The eyes look a wee bit too big, but overall it looks pretty nice. Like if Agrias and Ramza somehow had a kid. Heheheh.

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Post by: LastingDawn on November 08, 2009, 12:07:56 pm

An interesting portrait... but a portrait of whom?

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Post by: winshmo on November 08, 2009, 12:54:57 pm

i dub thee Ragriaz lol

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 09, 2009, 12:32:18 am

It was actually based from Agrias, the title screen from the Face Off idea; Gafgarion vs Agrias. Though it doesn't look exactly like Agrias, so I figured try to post it here and see if it could be work out as a new sprite/portrait. ^^

If it could work out, I'll try to make him a unique character/sprite ^^

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 10, 2009, 09:16:01 pm

Alright, how's this? ^^

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Post by: Archael on November 10, 2009, 09:29:51 pm

that looks like the same thing but with a body

eyes too big

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Post by: Jumza on November 10, 2009, 10:10:31 pm

I like it. would be a great idea for a sprite.

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 10, 2009, 11:44:52 pm

Quote from: "Voldemort"that looks like the same thing but with a body

eyes too big

Ah, sorry. I forgotten to change the eyes. ^^

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Post by: Kagebunji on November 11, 2009, 03:53:55 am

Hehehe, looks like Agrias and Ramza have a child like Mav said

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Post by: mav on November 11, 2009, 08:16:14 am

I can't tell if there's a cape, but I definitely think this could work decently as a sprite.

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 11, 2009, 10:18:59 am

Its his jacket/coat actually. Haha. It isn't very good looking, sorry about that ^^

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Post by: Keith Kuruzu on November 19, 2009, 02:46:25 am

Been lurking around for a while here, admiring all the great work that's been put into Mercenaries.

However, today I'm finally going to get off my behind and offer some kind of assistance towards the seeing this project to its end.

I'm inspired to do a FFT-style mock-up of the Male Gambler since I love how his face was done. I'm going to start with that face and give him a proper body to go along with most of the job class pictures (since most of their face sprite are just the head portion of their full body character art anyway).

Granted, it's been a while since I drew anything (I'm counting around 3 years or so) so it might not look as good and I'd wish for it to be. I'll get something up within a day or so for people to judge. >.<

Hope I can contribute some to this wonderful project! ^_^

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Post by: LastingDawn on November 19, 2009, 03:17:00 am

Haha! Production art of the classes is sadly lacking, it will be great to see what you come up with.

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 19, 2009, 03:35:49 am

Yea, looking forward ^^
Sir LD, do you think that the art/character I posted in previous page has any chances to made it into Mercenaries? Haha ^^

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Post by: mav on November 19, 2009, 07:25:32 am

I dunno what LD thinks, but maybe he could act as the sprite for one of the unnamed characters encountered on one of the sidequests. Oh and welcome to the team, Keith.

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Post by: Keith Kuruzu on November 19, 2009, 09:23:36 pm

As promised, here's my attempt at a FFT-style mock-up for the Male Gambler. It's also not a finished product anyway since I'm still planning to put some detail in the cards he's shuffling and other subtle little nuances like that. The image is a little big so it's been placed under a spoiler tag for space purposes.

Tell me what you all think about it and what needs to be altered, fixed, completely changed up, etc.

Note that I'm not going to color it since I'm no good when it comes to things like that. Anyone else is free to color it as they see fit or just wait until my girlfriend is finished up for the semester. She's the graphic design major so she should be able to spruce it up for me if I ask nicely. :mrgreen:

(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn3/KeithKuruzu/FFT%20Mercenaries%20Character%20Works/MaleGamblerSketch.jpg)

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Post by: Archael on November 19, 2009, 09:37:10 pm

nice drawing man

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Post by: Sephirot24 on November 19, 2009, 09:55:13 pm

nice one buddy!

Also... WELCOME TO FFH, WHERE ALL YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE!!!

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on November 19, 2009, 10:08:07 pm

Nice drawing, keith.

Hope you do more..

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 19, 2009, 10:26:28 pm

Very nice, Keith. Looking forward for more ^^

QuoteNote that I'm not going to color it since I'm no good when it comes to things like that.

Yay, I guess I'm not the only one. Hehe =p

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Post by: mav on November 20, 2009, 08:31:56 am

Very cool! I love those boots. Great job man, great job. Those cards are bitchingly good.

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Post by: Cheetah on November 20, 2009, 12:14:17 pm

This is a totally sick drawing Keith, what do you do know that you aren't still drawing? If this project ever got to the point of redoing some of the intro vids this would be perfect for the job video where they show the full character art. I really look forward to some added detail and color! Think you will do the female gambler next?

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Post by: Keith Kuruzu on November 20, 2009, 02:31:27 pm

College got in the way and I eventually stopped drawing altogether due to lack of inspiration and stress. I also didn't choose to major in Art at all; I've always been interested in Business, believe it or not. I finished my degree a couple of years back and just kept on working. It's only really now that I felt like taking up the pencil again ever since my Art Major girlfriend has been suggesting I do.

Oh, and yeah, I'm definitely going to work on the Female Gambler next. I'm just thinking of what tiny little nuances/throwbacks to past FF games I can hide in both models, just for kicks. The in-game sprites won't show the details but I figure the character arts should have something like that in them.

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Post by: Cheetah on November 20, 2009, 02:56:14 pm

Great ideas Keith, I dig it.

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Post by: mav on November 20, 2009, 04:33:02 pm

Quote from: "Keith Kuruzu"I'm just thinking of what tiny little nuances/throwbacks to past FF games I can hide in both models, just for kicks. The in-game sprites won't show the details but I figure the character arts should have something like that in them.

Hell yeah, that'd be awesome. How long did it take you to draw the male Gambler, by the way?

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Post by: Keith Kuruzu on November 20, 2009, 05:19:16 pm

This incarnation of the Male Gambler took me about 2 or so hours to do if you count me trying to come up with a design as close as possible to the sprite. The actual initial sketching took about 10 something minutes with some added time here or there for added definition of features. The planning is always the time-eater.

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Post by: SilvasRuin on November 20, 2009, 05:22:46 pm

...a little over two hours and ten minutes? You, sir, are impressive.

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Post by: Keith Kuruzu on November 20, 2009, 05:44:14 pm

Well no, don't give me TOO much credit. 10 minutes is stretching things, really. The face is always my biggest challenge (most of my planning and rough sketching time goes into the face, actually).

Oh, and the first draft of the Female Gambler will be up either tonight or tomorrow. Depends on when I can get home and have the energy to scan it. >.<

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 20, 2009, 10:28:14 pm

Haha. Yes, face is always the challenge part ^^
I'll be looking forward to the Female Gambler, Keith.

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Post by: beawulfx on November 21, 2009, 12:24:12 am

Wow. Another talented artist joins the fold. Amazing. I really love your male Gambler, that's wonderful man. He looks perfect IMO. I love Cheetah's idea of the intro to the new jobs ala FFT, that would be beautiful with art like this.

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Post by: LastingDawn on November 21, 2009, 04:47:37 pm

Excellent wok Keith! I can see that you have a pretty good grasp on Yoshida's style and with Winshmo are indeed a very welcome addition to our art team.

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Post by: Keith Kuruzu on November 22, 2009, 12:49:48 am

I know I said that the Female Gambler would be up by today. However, my scanner has said otherwise. XP

It's been a while since I used it so it's probably just being bitchy about having been forgotten all this time. I'm just still wondering how come the Male Gambler came out good when it completely did not accept the female... Hmm... >.<

Regardless, the Female Gambler scan will be up sometime in the next few days or sooner, depending on when I can get my scanner to work right or the next time I can get to my girlfriend's scanner.

Until it's up, though, I can still tinker around with what throwbacks to past FF games I can add to it. Any suggestions, anyone?

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Post by: SilvasRuin on November 22, 2009, 02:51:42 pm

You could place a Cait Sith doll somewhere on her person. He's one of two "gambler" focused characters I know of from the series, and I don't really think she should be made to look like... Setzer? Or did I get his name wrong?

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Post by: LastingDawn on November 22, 2009, 02:52:21 pm

Hmm, are there any female Gamblers that are reminiscent of the FF series? I suppose Daryll might count...

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Post by: Dormin Jake on November 22, 2009, 03:47:44 pm

There are the ladies from FFX-2, but they're fairly ridiculous looking:
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Lady_Luck (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Lady_Luck)
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/0/0a/Ffx2-ladyluck.jpg)
Annoying how so much of the clothing in recent games aren't at all proper battle attire.

Then there are the Corsairs from FF11. Pirate-themed gamblers, basically:
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Corsair (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Corsair)
(http://www.ffcompendium.com/jobimages/11-corsair-o.jpg)
Not sure there's much else, gambler concept-wise, aside from Setzers and Cait Siths. Daryl's a good idea, but is there actually any art of her?

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Post by: Keith Kuruzu on November 22, 2009, 03:56:27 pm

Yeah, I'm not making her look like Setzer. His style of clothing would deviate from the original plan a bit too much. As for Daryll, I was seriously considering her design for the Female Gambler but I really only have her in-game sprite to go off of.

In the end, I considered integrating some of FF9's Zidane's clothing choices into both female and (later on) male Gamblers since it seem to fit better with the character's personality, IMO. I know Zidane isn't a Gambler but he's got that overconfidence, swagger, charm and appeal with the opposite sex, and positive outlook on life that makes me think of a Gambler. 'Cause, I mean, Gamblers need to look on the brighter side of things most of the time. If they didn't, they'd be too hung up on their losses to keep going with their profession.

It's harder to describe in words versus simply looking at it. I'm working on a fix for my scanner as I speak, though, but it's coming along kind of slow. Steady, but slow. After looking into it more, I've found that it was a connection error that made the scanner just not work. The USB hookup isn't working right for some reason so I'm going to have to find another cord somewhere around the house or, worse comes to worse, buy another cord. It's not a big deal.

By the end of the day, it might be up. I should be able to get another cord by then.

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 22, 2009, 07:22:20 pm

Haha. Yea, Zidane does has the charming look.

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Post by: Keith Kuruzu on November 24, 2009, 04:03:53 am

Huzzah! I finally got my scanner to work! Here's what's been promised: my FFT-style mock up of the Female Gambler. I'm still working on both Male and Female arts just to touch it up a bit but I managed to do more with the Female Gambler while trying to fix my scanner.

As always, comments and criticism are welcome, especially on my take on a Zidane-esque Gambler look worked out fine. I wanted subtle but the cuffs on the gloves is kind of a dead giveaway.

(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn3/KeithKuruzu/FFT%20Mercenaries%20Character%20Works/FemaleGamblerSketch.jpg)

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 24, 2009, 04:51:30 am

Wow...I love the way she stand, posing with the dices in her hand. Awesome. ^^

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Post by: Luminar on November 24, 2009, 05:59:25 am

setzer's coat is pimp though, daryl pimps to.

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Post by: mav on November 24, 2009, 07:35:23 am

Beautiful. Great job with the dice--she really does look like a gambler, not like some kind of crazy minx. Those cuffs are freaking awesome.

Heheh, who's next? Male Reliquian?

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Post by: Cheetah on November 24, 2009, 10:13:41 am

The detail with the dice are very nice, once again a great piece of art Keith.

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Post by: LastingDawn on November 24, 2009, 06:01:56 pm

As always very impressive and good work with the proportions, she looks very suited to her character.

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Post by: Sephirot24 on November 24, 2009, 09:49:31 pm

Great concept art Keith!! Simple and nicely designed. Can't wait to see what you come up with next.

This project becomes even better every week...

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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on November 24, 2009, 11:01:44 pm

Wow cool. That makes me interested in finishing the female gambler..

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 26, 2009, 11:54:17 pm

What do you think?

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Post by: mav on November 27, 2009, 07:26:43 am

I like 'em a lot. Their clothes are wicked. The eyes on both still need work though--they're just a bit too large and anime-like. Are they the same character?

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 27, 2009, 08:54:28 am

Oh, haha. Looks like I'm really poor at the eyes. Yes, they are the same actually. I'm just not sure which outfit is better. He is a Fencer, actually and I was hoping that maybe he may get a chance to be part of Mercenaries, maybe a few sidequests ^^

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Post by: StaticLynx on November 27, 2009, 10:25:09 am

I signed up for this site wayyyy too late, I sooo wish I had gotten here sooner. Umm...I have lots of concept art for FFT that I have done, personally I thought I could never use it but...if you guys can or want too I would love to offer it up. And I can do more ^.^ fun hobby of mine anyways. This would be a pretty cool re-done knight, it was orginally gonna actually be a new character but w/e is best ^.^.

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/SliverSkeleton/Knight2.jpg)

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Post by: StaticLynx on November 27, 2009, 10:27:54 am

Here is some more of that characters concept art, I figured it'd be better if I gave you more than one example to run from, hope this helps, I seriously do.

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/SliverSkeleton/Knight1.jpg)

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Post by: Archael on November 27, 2009, 10:52:47 am

you are a very good character artist

my only suggestion: remove the noses

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Post by: StaticLynx on November 27, 2009, 11:26:00 am

So, so wait. D-Does...this mean you can possibly put my artwork to some use? I have plenty more if it's ever needed ^.^.

H-Hold on... *Starts erasing characters concept A's nose, moves onto B* This is gonna take me awhile, there's a lot of them...but I'll put some of them up when they are done, most deffinately ^.^. I'm working on a new male wizard right now...soo I'll stick that up here when I'm done too.

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Post by: Sephirot24 on November 27, 2009, 11:32:16 am

We'll be delighted to see you art! Welcome to FFH ^^
If you have a looooot of it, you can put every piece separately into a spoiler tag so we don't have to scroll down 20 pages.

Also, great concepts. Very detailed and nicely shaded. Only thing I'd point is that they're definitely anime looking (face) and not FFT looking at all. It's not something bad, but I just thought I'd state it clear. Good work

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 27, 2009, 11:39:09 am

Those are very nice ^^
Great job. Welcome to FFH.
Looking forward for more.

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Post by: StaticLynx on November 27, 2009, 12:02:37 pm

Hmm...it seems upon drawing my art..."is" more anime than final fantasy tactics style. I just tried it and unfortunately I can't draw FFT all too well, I mean I can but it still feels more anime stylish that FFT sooo...looks like the classes I have re-done aren't as useful as I hoped. I'll put the black mage up soon, I'm almost finished with it. This kinda blows though...*Sighs*
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Bummer.

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Post by: mav on November 27, 2009, 12:10:16 pm

Nice! Concept art is always fun to see. Even though you have some concepts already drawn, maybe you could look through the job sprite ideas (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3448) topic to see what needs some concept for the spriters. Like the Cantors and everyone else...

Great work; keep it up!

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Post by: StaticLynx on November 27, 2009, 12:22:30 pm

Tell me what you'd have me do good sir, and I'll do my best to make sure it gets done ^.^. I saw the thread, I could be put to use just about anywhere, sooo...*Nods* tell me what needs assistance and I'll do my best >.<

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Post by: LastingDawn on November 27, 2009, 01:03:29 pm

Certainly, you seem to have a good grasp on a traditional style, not quite Yoshida, but differing styles never hurt anyone, it would be in the same vein as SplashWoman's fantastic art pieces, let's see...

Cantor Male/Female
Invoker Female
Blue Mage Male/Female
Warder Male/Female
Traveler Female

That's all that comes to mind, but I can surely think of more, and as always, production art of the same character twice is hardly a bad thing. You have a great style and I would love to see what you could contribute, so to give you a bit of a break... Let's just see what you come up with on the Male Cantor for now. If the work is exceptional, the sprite will be based off of your design.

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Post by: StaticLynx on November 27, 2009, 01:34:50 pm

*Giggles* Yay! Mr.LD has potentially hired me from the soldiers office, I did say I working on a mage didn't I? *Flicks fingers* Just your luck it's a male. He may be possibly to dark for your taste due to a cantor being the will of the heavens, but...I think none the less his should meet your expectations, that is so long as you're expecting a anime style ^.^, especially since this is more or less a re-done priest.

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/SliverSkeleton/Mage1.jpg)

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Post by: LastingDawn on November 27, 2009, 03:01:25 pm

An interesting look, the face sort of looks like Balthier in a way, his original production art anyhow. The look of the sprite however... it just looks a bit too similar to the Shrine Knights which already abound in FFT's world, as it stands he looks a bit similar to Rofel, in that way. The bag's a nice touch though.

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Post by: StaticLynx on November 27, 2009, 03:07:27 pm

Oh deary, I ish sorry if I've let you down. So this isn't suitable? Well...would you like me to try again? (It was a hammer btw, not a bag, but yea...I can see how you get a bag XD, darn, can't blame me for trying here.)

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Post by: LastingDawn on November 27, 2009, 03:35:56 pm

Ah, certainly. If you're willing to try it, something less conforming to the look of the church's lackeys.

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Post by: StaticLynx on November 27, 2009, 03:55:57 pm

That's shocking to hear, from someone who runs the church. XD. I ish just kidding, anyways I'll see what I can do, I have lot's of cleric drawings...but it's futile to use them considering more or less all clerics are holy, thus they look churchy hmm...my cellphone battery is almost dead :/ (I'm using that to take the picmatures, and well my charger is at college, and I'm home on break I don't go back until sunday evening...ugh, I'm sorry Funeral/Funebris.)

I'll take one more, that I already have done, it's only like three inches big, so can't really critque its detail, it's a girl, so lets see if it can run as a female cantor, and if not, tell me your expectations and we can run from there ^.^. I hope I'm helping Sir LD! :3

(I don't scratch that I hate the eyes...but...then again they're little pencil lines so there isn't much I can do about them. XD Pretty sad you can see it so well when it reality it's beyond tiny >.< It's crap to me but I hope it helps you.)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/SliverSkeleton/Cleric.jpg)

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Post by: LastingDawn on November 28, 2009, 12:03:40 pm

That's an interesting look, in a way the bottom part reminds me of Mullenkamp's dress which is a nice reference to her, and for a first copy it looks great, would you mind making it more intune with the more detailed style shown in your earlier work though? I think this one has good potential.

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Post by: StaticLynx on November 28, 2009, 12:35:13 pm

Thank you Mr. LD, I'll get right on it. I don't suppose (totally irrelavent by the way.) ou have a completed sprite set of Funeral/Funebris? I am in search of one...desperately.

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Post by: mav on November 28, 2009, 12:36:24 pm

That last one, with some more details and perhaps some color suggestions, could definitely work out somewhere. I like the hooded guy a lot, but LD knows what goes.

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Post by: StaticLynx on November 28, 2009, 02:27:16 pm

I know this isn't completely to the task you assigned me...but well I think you might find GREAT use for these, when I saw you had nothing yet for the archer...I was like..."Hmm..." (Archers is my specialty I have hundreds) And since I didn't know if you were re-doing them, I figured you could take a small look at my inventory and see if any of them are useful. (Saw FF Crystal Chronicles Cantor, so now I have a basis to refer to, in which to create one.

Hope you enjoy these, I had fun making them in my Bio101 class a few weeks back XD. (I really like the third one, sorry about the poor quality I truly am, I just wanted to get as many in one shot as possible for you guys. ^.^. I have wayyyy too many fantasy drawings unfortunately black/white mage is what I'm short on...wait! I have my album from last year hold on I know there is a hot white mage in there, lemme get back to you ^.^)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/SliverSkeleton/Archer.jpg)

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Post by: StaticLynx on November 28, 2009, 02:36:58 pm

Good sir I believe I found you your male Arabolist, and Female Cantor. Well I mean...I hope I did, hope these help <3. I know the cantor may be a little off due to the fact that she resembles the already exsisting white mage, but I believe my Arabolist is dead on :3. From what I gathered you Arabolists seem a lot like hunters, but meh it isn't my place to question. Hope these help your production. (i.e. my cellphone is now d.e.a.d. sooo I can't get you more photos of what I have or draw until monday when I go back to college...again sorry :/)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/SliverSkeleton/Cantor.jpg)

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Post by: Sephirot24 on November 28, 2009, 08:12:11 pm

Arbalist concept looks really accurate, looking at what's been suggested in the sprite topic. Female cantor's robe has a simple but nice design, I like ^^

The 1st caped mage you posted looks awesome, I really like the dark and hooded style (like the 4th archer in your other post). Unfortunately I don't think it'll fit the male cantor, as I said it's kinda too dark themed.

We'll be waiting to see more of your drawings. If you're gonna work on new stuff, you can check this topic:
http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3448 (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3448)
You can get some pointers there for some specific jobs.

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Post by: mav on November 28, 2009, 08:24:57 pm

Whoa, I love those bottom two Archers, and that male Arbalist is freaking epic. The female Cantor is really hot--like a Priest with more form-fitting clothes. Very nice. Let's see what becomes of all this.

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 28, 2009, 09:11:00 pm

Wow, the Archers, Arbalist and Cantor are amazing. That hooded Archers and that Arbalist are epic. Yes, the Cantor is hot ^^
Very nice work.

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Post by: Keith Kuruzu on November 29, 2009, 01:06:52 am

Quote from: "StaticLynx"Good sir I believe I found you your male Arabolist, and Female Cantor. Well I mean...I hope I did, hope these help <3. I know the cantor may be a little off due to the fact that she resembles the already exsisting white mage, but I believe my Arabolist is dead on :3. From what I gathered you Arabolists seem a lot like hunters, but meh it isn't my place to question. Hope these help your production. (i.e. my cellphone is now d.e.a.d. sooo I can't get you more photos of what I have or draw until monday when I go back to college...again sorry :/)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/SliverSkeleton/Cantor.jpg)

Ooo, I am loving this a lot! Sorry for having been silent for a while. I'm not in town because of Thanksgiving so I'll be heading back in the next day or so. The Arbalist/Archers are awesome looking and the Female Cantor as well!

If LD gives those designs the OK, I don't suppose you'd mind if I did FFT-style mock-ups of your concept art for the Arbalist/Archers/Female Cantor (even any of the various Knights on the preceding page)?

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Post by: LastingDawn on November 29, 2009, 12:35:03 pm

Though no, I don't have a complete Funeral sprite... Zozma was working on one and I believe he did complete it, but the game does something odd for Funeral's sprite, he looks a bit different in all of his... well unused animation.

Also your first pictures are great! I personally love that final drawing (one on the bottom right), for a female Archer base.

Great work on your Arbalist/Cantor mockup! But one thing for the male Arbalist... I always pictured him as having a rather large cape (very similar to Dalton from Chrono Trigger), I really like that bottom design for the normal archer, it looks like a great mix. Also that Female Cantor looks great! I really like her expression most of all, nothing in Mercenaries is really "good" or "evil" a lot of Mercenaries' story is told through ambiguity of right and wrong. So her rather devious looking expression fits the overall theme very well. And indeed Keith, you have my permission (for all that matters, still need Static Lynx's, heh...) to Yoshida-ize his concept art. Also keep in mind, if you'd like some advice on anything please PM Winshmo, who is technically the Art Director. Odds are, he will be the one to finalize the concept on everything.

Dalton Reference:

(http://www.spriters-resource.com/snes/chronotrigger/dalton.png)

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Post by: mav on November 29, 2009, 03:03:56 pm

Wait, so would both the Archer and the Arbalist have capes?

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Post by: LastingDawn on November 29, 2009, 03:18:53 pm

Only the Female Archer and Male Arbalist.

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Post by: StaticLynx on November 30, 2009, 08:17:14 pm

Anyways, sorry about the delays guys, but...if you want to use these than Keith has my go ahead to Fushido-ize my characters, just have him e-mail me copies orrrr...something just because I'm really interest in seeing my artwork re-done, its never happened to me before. So, i'm really curious to see my art in a whole new style, thanks and much appreciated. The archers I posted earlier were males, but I have plenty of females if you need them ^.^.

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Post by: Keith Kuruzu on December 09, 2009, 07:05:28 pm

Sorry for the lack of updates lately. I caught the flu shortly after I came back to town after Thanksgiving and it took me out for most of last week and this week. DX

I'll be working on the Yoshida-style rendition of the Male Arbalist based on StaticLynx's design with LD's Dalton reference being used for the cape.

I might have to make several mock-ups of the Male Arbalist, though, since I'm going to toy around with different cape lengths with a full body design. I just can't seem to picture an Arbalist to be wearing a heavy cape like that while dual wielding crossbows. Maybe I'll prove myself wrong while working on this. >.<

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Post by: mav on December 09, 2009, 07:38:15 pm

Whoa. Stay healthy man, and good luck with the art. This will definitely be interesting.

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Post by: LastingDawn on December 09, 2009, 10:13:24 pm

As always, feel free to take your time, and don't overwork yourself on our account.

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Post by: StaticLynx on December 11, 2009, 02:56:57 am

Weee

. I too am looking forward to the presentation that is the "Fusido Male Arabalist" b-but as always health comes first. *Bobbles* I can't wait though...this seems so excitinggg. By the way Sir LD, I've done a few more random designs let me know if you need them. Some of the drawing I've done recently seem impartially useless, but who knows you might need em'. XD

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Post by: LastingDawn on December 11, 2009, 04:16:25 pm

Certainly, you never know when inspiration will strike.

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Post by: mav on December 12, 2009, 07:14:43 pm

I may be the only one who feels this way, but I honestly think that every artist here should just post any image they think is relevant. Whether it's a custom character, a monster design, a potential job design, etc, etc. Worst case scenario, we ogle your art but tell you it won't make it into the game...

Keep up the great work, you guys; your art is inspirational, to say the least.

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Post by: LastingDawn on December 12, 2009, 10:12:45 pm

Yes, I agree with Mav, it's definitely the best way to do things.

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Post by: Keith Kuruzu on December 16, 2009, 01:15:59 am

Sorry about the lack of updates. The Male Arbalist was a tricky beast to finish, mainly because:
1) I tried really hard to find a suitable pose for him to stand in that also adequately showcased his crossbow (one of them, anyway).

2) I tried really hard to stick with StaticLynx's original design. It wasn't too hard since it was a simple design originally but I made a few changes here and there. Hopefully they weren't too much to take away from StaticLynx's original intent.

3) I was trying to find a decent looking design for a crossbow. For this, I finally settled upon the Belgian crossbow design, just because it looked to be the most dual-wieldable (look up Belgian Crossbow under Google Images to see what I mean ^_^).

Try to guess just where I got some of my character inspiration from in making the Male Arbalist. I took something from an existing FFT character in the Vanilla version as well as another character design from one other FF game.

Oh, and LD, please let me know if the cape design is to your liking.

(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn3/KeithKuruzu/FFT%20Mercenaries%20Character%20Works/MaleArbalistSketch.jpg)

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Post by: LastingDawn on December 16, 2009, 02:37:37 am

Oh, I like that! the cape is perfect! Well worth the wait! I would love to see some of these colored in, keep up the good work, Keith!

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on December 16, 2009, 04:19:03 am

Amazing. I really like the cape. The crossbow's details are perfect. Well done, and yes, worth to wait.

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Post by: Kagebunji on December 16, 2009, 10:11:35 am

Try to color it and I will begin work on sprite

Great job Keith!

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Post by: mav on December 16, 2009, 11:23:22 am

Awesome! I like the design a lot. I wonder if I could take this image and make a portrait out of it directly...

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Post by: Cheetah on December 16, 2009, 04:21:48 pm

The design is great. The proportions seem a bit off and the face isn't quite spot on, but it is still really good and a great design for a sprite. If you just did some vague coloring maybe some spriters could take a crack at it.

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Post by: Keith Kuruzu on December 17, 2009, 03:04:18 am

Quote from: "Cheetah"The design is great. The proportions seem a bit off and the face isn't quite spot on, but it is still really good and a great design for a sprite. If you just did some vague coloring maybe some spriters could take a crack at it.

I was trying to make the Arbalist look as if he were walking towards you with only the front of his right foot on the ground with the whole of his left foot firmly planted. The laces on his right foot were also supposed to indicate that but I guess it didn't come off the way I wanted it too.

So yeah, the off proportions were a result of me trying to give a 3-Dimensional feel to a 2-Dimensional picture and doing badly. >.<

I've put up a roughly colored version of the Arbalist since it's been asked of me by our wonderful spriters. I do have to warn you all now that it's not going to be pretty but it should give you all something to work on for now. I do apologize if the color scheme I picked isn't so good. I'm bad at those kinds of things. >.<

(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn3/KeithKuruzu/FFT%20Mercenaries%20Character%20Works/MaleArbalistRoughColor.jpg)

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on December 17, 2009, 04:35:51 am

To me, the colour is right on track. However, shadings are required instead of dumping colours with the paint, like cartoons ^^
Perhaps some great spriters may try on it. Still, great job Keith.

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Post by: Kagebunji on December 17, 2009, 10:11:25 am

I will wait till those two weeks without school begin, then I will work on this

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on December 17, 2009, 10:56:11 am

You mean the sprite?

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Post by: Cheetah on December 17, 2009, 01:10:51 pm

That is great coloring for inspiration Kieth. From a spriting prospective the colors should all be doabled, the only think that might not work is the blond hair, it might have to be brown. I'm a little worried about the green, but if you use two different main shades of green with some shared shades it should work well.

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Post by: Kagebunji on December 17, 2009, 03:17:01 pm

Yeah Jimmy, the sprite. I'm no good at doing drawings. I hope the sprite section will revive during Christmas

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on December 17, 2009, 07:12:41 pm

Well, hope to see more sprites before Christmas hits. So far, only 3.

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Post by: LastingDawn on December 20, 2009, 03:30:58 pm

The colored Arbalist looks great! Though I agree with Cheetah that brown hair would probably look more fitting to the role.

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Post by: StaticLynx on January 06, 2010, 03:26:49 am

Sorry to add to the to the already obvious, but when I orginally did him, the hair color was indeed brown, so I would appreciate it as well. <3
However I'd have to make a brash statement saying his color (Meaning uniform) is spot on, lime green as well as forest green. They were the exact shade as I planned them out to be, so thank you. Sorry for the contradiction Cheetah, but again this isn't my project so I really don't have the final say, but thank you so very much the Fushido looks great!
I can thank you enough for assisting me.

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Post by: LastingDawn on January 06, 2010, 02:53:38 pm

Sounds good StaticLynx, very interesting details and welcome back.

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Post by: Keith Kuruzu on January 07, 2010, 03:39:13 am

Wow, it's been a while. Sorry if it seemed like I abandoned everyone after Christmas. A couple of personal issues in my life crept up on me for me to deal with for the New Year. Everything's been hashed out for the most part so I can get back on track.

From what has been said so far, brown is the hair color everyone would like for the Arbalist. No problem! The fixed version can be found below. If a spriter wanted to take a crack at it before I get the new version put up, go ahead.

Now, as for doing a better job with the colors or shading, I seriously wish I could at the moment. I never got around to refining that aspect of my art when I had the time back in college. If anything, though, any future work I do with color will indeed be a learning experience, if that's not a problem with anyone. >.<

As for what next to mock-up, the most obvious choice would be the Female Arbalist but I've had the Female Cantor in mind for some time now. And then there's the matter of the Reliquians (sp?) since their overall design simply screams for some kind of FF2 tribute to be added into their art.

This new year is gonna be something else, that's for sure! ^_^

NOTE: Yeah, I know I just dumped brown where the blonde used to be. The learning curve hasn't started just yet. >.<

(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn3/KeithKuruzu/FFT%20Mercenaries%20Character%20Works/MaleArbalistRoughColorBrownHair.jpg)

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on January 07, 2010, 04:25:26 am

Haha. Welcome back Keith. And don't worry about it too much ^^
Nice touch with the brown.

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Post by: mav on January 07, 2010, 11:21:36 am

Very nice, Keith; the brown looks good. Take your time on these drawings--we're just happy to see these things come to life in so many shapes and forms. Though I must admit that I can't wait for the next...

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Post by: Keith Kuruzu on January 20, 2010, 10:55:08 pm

Hey everyone, this is just a tiny little update on the Male Gambler Character Art. My girlfriend finally got around to coloring him for us. However, she didn't want to color the original pencil sketch until I redid the quality and brightness of it (>.<). She did, however, do an outline of the Male Gambler using her drawing tablet provided to her at her current job and colored that in. She'll refine it later when she has time to spare in-between projects and possibly add some detailed shading him. For now, however, we'll just have to make do with the Male Gambler colored as if. As a bonus, though, she did him in two of his color palettes: the main one and I believe the sixth one down the line. ^_^

(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/Annieplush/l.jpg)

As for the Female Arbalist, I'm going to start on her as soon as work tapers off a bit. I just got a new part-time job and they gave me a lot of extra hours to work last week. Seeing a how I wouldn't know when I could get hours like that again, I took what they gave me and worked 6 days straight. It's not so bad since it's just part-time but standing up for hours on end can make one somewhat tired, I guess. >.<

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on January 20, 2010, 11:35:18 pm

Nice. Though is his skin tone a bit too light?
And don't worry about being lack of updates. Slow and steady is always better than fast and rush work.

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Post by: Cheetah on January 20, 2010, 11:36:34 pm

So very very cool. Great to see that you are still working on this stuff Keith.

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Post by: Keith Kuruzu on January 21, 2010, 02:45:50 am

Oh, I don't plan on abandoning this project. This is the most coordination seen on an FFT fan project ever and I want to see it through to the end, whenever that will be.

As for the skin tone, yeah, it's a bit light. She'll rework it and get that done at a later date, probably along with the shading if she decides to do that.

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on January 21, 2010, 03:28:29 am

Alright. Looking forward ^^

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Post by: mav on January 21, 2010, 08:16:33 am

That's really cool--I hope MiKe gets a chance to see this. Great job, Keith.

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Post by: Keith Kuruzu on January 21, 2010, 08:51:02 pm

Hey everyone, I'm back for another update! This time, my girlfriend did a quick coloring of the Female Gambler art that I put up in the same fashion as before (i.e. she did an outline of her and colored her in via her drawing tablet at work). As a bonus, she did an alternate colored version of the Female Gambler which I actually like very much.

Originally, it looked like she'd go sleeveless and have fancy gloves ala FF9's Zidane but my girlfriend's alternate palette has her wearing full white long sleeves and red leggings. Take a gander and see if you like it.

(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/Annieplush/girl.jpg)

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Post by: VampragonLord on January 21, 2010, 09:08:25 pm

the sleeveless/bare legs version looks better but matching the gloves color makes it look like her arms are black or her skin is ripped off or some such.

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Post by: mav on January 21, 2010, 10:20:54 pm

Very neat stuff. I don't know which version I like better--both have their benefits. I do think the version without tights could use a little tweaking though, especially with what Vamp just mentioned.

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on January 21, 2010, 11:35:02 pm

Both looks very nice.

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Post by: SilvasRuin on January 23, 2010, 03:37:23 am

The only reason why I won't go right out and say I prefer the one with sleeves is that I recall Lasting Dawn saying he wanted the generics looking... worn. Life's supposed to be hard and they are supposed to show it. I prefer the sleeved one, but the non-sleeved one portrays the state of the world better.

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Post by: StaticLynx on February 03, 2010, 07:44:54 pm

Sorry, for being away so long as well. College "had" me tied up, anyways. I've gotten a little better at art, anyway I can still continue to be of service?

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Post by: jimmyjw88 on February 03, 2010, 08:14:26 pm

Definitely ^^

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Post by: mav on February 04, 2010, 08:04:23 am

Ya don't even need to ask--the more art, the better. Welcome back.

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Post by: StaticLynx on March 12, 2010, 01:25:47 pm

This is...most certainly odd, seems things have gotten quite silent on this thread.
I wonder what's been going on...

Title: Re: Mercenaries Art Thread
Post by: mav on March 12, 2010, 04:55:51 pm

Eh, not much has happened, just the biggest buzzkill (http://ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=4679). Mercenaries is on hold, so a lot of us have moved our attention elsewhere. Feel free to keep posting though--it'll help maintain interest in the project.

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Post by: Zozma on September 09, 2010, 08:41:41 pm

Quote from: "winshmo"here's lavian but i think i made her a little bit too provoking.. maybe thats why she was assaulted by those perverted mages at mandalia plain

Winsh, I would love to see this in color, any plans for it?

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