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Modding => PSX FFT Hacking => Topic started by: Xifanie on October 08, 2007, 08:23:02 am

Title: Screenies!!! (coming soon)
Post by: Xifanie on October 08, 2007, 08:23:02 am
I'll create a full working Dejeon Spell that instantly turns the target into a chest (I don't want crystal abuse).

Any idea for new battles... or anything!?

Project Publicity. =o
Title: Re: Screenies!!!
Post by: karsten on October 08, 2007, 08:34:23 am
Quote from: "Zodiac"I'll create a full working Dejeon Spell that instantly turns the target into a chest (I don't want crystal abuse).

Any idea for new battles... or anything!?

Project Publicity. =o

wait where are the screens?
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Post by: Xifanie on October 08, 2007, 11:03:48 am
D'oh, I just noticed the title wasn't really appropriate.

Well, I'm currently compressing the file containing the spell quotes. Right now I'm at  ~70% of the original file size. that makes about 4k free character. =D

I also fixed the US version in this way:

Life is Short, bury! <Pause 1s> Steady Sword! <Pause 2s> <Auto Close Message Box>

Exactly like it was in the original JP version. They'll probably "fix" this too in the PSP version in any case.

I thought that while I was at it (creating a spell quote for Dejeon) I should do that too. I'm almost finished, and should upload it in a few hours.
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Post by: karsten on October 08, 2007, 11:18:50 am
Quote from: "Zodiac"D'oh, I just noticed the title wasn't really appropriate.

Well, I'm currently compressing the file containing the spell quotes. Right now I'm at  ~70% of the original file size. that makes about 4k free character. =D

I also fixed the US version in this way:

Life is Short, bury! <Pause 1s> Steady Sword! <Pause 2s> <Auto Close Message Box>

Exactly like it was in the original JP version. They'll probably "fix" this too in the PSP version in any case.

I thought that while I was at it (creating a spell quote for Dejeon) I should do that too. I'm almost finished, and should upload it in a few hours.

on the psp version they fixed it by taking the spell quote away :D

anyway i like how you're going to fix it.
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Post by: Chrona on October 08, 2007, 11:54:08 am
Heh...it would suck getting hit by it =p

Why not a Zodiac battle where you face the Lucavi? Or at least a series of battles where you face them one after the other, toned up drastically?
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Post by: Argg0 on October 08, 2007, 05:17:06 pm
There is one on FFT PSP Co-OP, where you and a friend (each one with three units) fight against All Lucavi...

Been wondering, since we can change battle (by we I mean Zodiac...) why not make one rare battle be against all Zodiacs?

How many Zodiacs do we have? 7, 8 if we count Altima II.

We could change the Chocobo Battle on End (were we can fight against 8 Yellow Chocobos) to 8 Lucavi. It would be probably interesting... ^_^
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Post by: Xifanie on October 08, 2007, 05:54:44 pm
I always preferred seeing a Shrine Knight battle personally.

Vormav, Rofel, Kletian, Balk, Wiegraf, Meliadoul, Izlude.

All with Strong equips.

But I could give real thought battles for END of the like.
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Post by: Xifanie on October 08, 2007, 07:19:31 pm
Holllyyyyyyyyy

Making that damn Shrine Knight battle takes a while... hopefully the Lucavi battle will take me 15mins at most.

Well there are 4 battles at END

- Lucavi (All Lucavi except Zalbag, Altima form 1 only)
- Shrine Knights (Vormav, Rofel, Kletian, Balk, Wiegraf, Izlude, Meliadoul)
- Betrayers (Dycedarg, Zombie Zalbag, Gafgarion, Algus, ??????)
- Demonic Battle (3 Apandas, 3 Archaic Demon, 4 Ultima Demons, Balmafula)

Well I'm still not sure about that betrayers battle... it lacks units. If anyone has an idea, spit it out. Anyway I'm not very close to finishing this. :P
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Post by: Chrona on October 08, 2007, 07:56:58 pm
What are their jobs/equips/moves/abilities and status and stuff, for those who you did already?

Betrayers - some other suggestions

Dracula (Though you'd have to make up a skillset...Maybe White Aid with a sword?), Rudvich, Balmafula fits here too, Golgaros (don't think he has a unique portrait but meh) and or Gustav, Larg/Goltana, Delita (obviously), Funeral (More deceit than betrayal)

Yeah, some random ideas I thought up. Would be fun seeing these not-used in battle sprites, if they work well...and stuff

Any way of making text boxes and stuff? After you beat the Shrine Knights battle for the first time, maybe give you the option of recruiting Izlude? He seemed like the kind who would have joined you once he found out the truth, as Meliadoul did, and the plot reason could be same as Malaks, the stone revived him =p

Better put the Tiamat/Uribo/Porky battles elsewhere possibly?

And yeah, pretty cool how Ultima and Zodiac would no longer be missable =p



Ooh one more thing, is it possible to some day be able to upload your own sprite sheets to it? You could possibly "create" the rest of the zodiac demons, using the Espers of FFXII and Totema from FFT as a base =p
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Post by: Xifanie on October 08, 2007, 08:41:19 pm
Yeah someday... I just have to find where it tells to load file with "x" name for "y" unit. For that I need a new Hex Editor... meh.

It may be possible to put message boxes and all in random battles. Whoever for the "first" time only requires a boolean in the RAM and the save file. And that would require a LOT of work.

Lucavi Battle
Altima (1)
Queklain
Velius
Zalera
Celia
Lede
Adramelk
Hasmalum
Elidibs
(I doubt I can give them ??? stats, plus they'll end up having 10x less HP/MP than usual, yet 7 lucavi with full speed is fucking dangerous)

Shrine Knight Battle

Vormav

Blood Suck
HP Restore
Defense UP
Move +2

Chaos Blade
Genji Shield
Grand Helmet
Robe of Lords
Feather Mantle


Rofel

White-Aid
MP Switch
Attack Up
Move MP Up

Kaiser Plate
Ragnarok
Genji Helmet
~
Bracer


Kletian

Starry Heaven
Blade Grasp
Non-Charge
Teleport II

Mace of Zeus
---
~
Wizard Outfit
Vanish Mantle


Balk

Phantom
Speed Save
Concentrate
Move +2

Blast Gun
~
Thief Hat
Secret Clothes
Sprint Shoes


Wiegraf

Dark Sword
Weapon Guard
Martial Arts
Fly

Defender
Venetian Shield
~
Maximillian
Reflect Ring

Izlude

Sword Spirit
Abandon
Secret Hunt
Jump +3

Excalibur
Escutcheon II
Circlet
Carabini Mail
~


Meliadoul

Destroy Sword
Dragon Spirit
Maintenance
Move +3

Save The Queen
~
Ribbon
Rubber Costume
Setiemson

Demonic Battle

Ultima Demon
Ultima Demon
Ultima Demon
Ultima Demon
Apanda
Apanda
Apanda
Archaic Demon
Archaic Demon
Archaic Demon

Balmafula

Warlock Summon
Ultimate Magic (still not sure about those 2)
MP Restore
Non-Charge
Move-MP Up

Whale Whisker
---
Ribbon
Robe of Lords
Chantage
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Post by: Chrona on October 08, 2007, 08:54:01 pm
What did you think of my Betrayal suggestions?

Non Charge could probably be best used for something else. What does Phantom include again? *checks*...would probably work better on Kletian than Balk. Or give him some other spells like Dimension Magic, Complete Magic (All Ultima), All Magic, anything really. Starry Heaven is cool but yeah...he seems like more of a heavy magic caster instead of a status inflicter. That sorta seems better on someone else. Rofel or Balk. And Balk doesn't really need Concentrate unless you give him some other skills, since the Gun ignores evasion. Wiegraf with fly seems a little silly but cool, and Izlude with SS looks decent.

How about making some other battles, like Hokuten (led by Larg, Zalbag, and Dycedarg) and Nanten (Goltana, Orlandu, and possibly Delita)

Maybe a Beoulve Family battle?

Just giving some ideas =p
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Post by: Xifanie on October 08, 2007, 09:08:14 pm
Well, it gave me ideas but most of those unit's sprite sheet are incomplete.

I prefered Starry Heaven on Kletian mainly because your party could have all low faith... Maybe I should give him Truth?

I don't know what else to give back. In fact I thought Concentrate affected Leg Aim/Arm Aim and now I'm not sure anymore. :P

Vormav will really be a bitch when you get to him. Very high HP, HP restore, and even Blood Suck... ouch! XD

Beoulve vs Nanten? =o

4 chars
Ramza
Dycedarg (guest)
Zalbag (guest)
Alma (guest)

VS
Delita King
Balmafula
Orlandu
Olan
4 Generics with High level skills (No invite isn't a problem)
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Post by: Chrona on October 08, 2007, 09:22:46 pm
I meant more like fighting the two separately, but that can be done too. Your idea does seem pretty cool.

And yeah, Truth would be decent if it had the area restrictions I think Phil put into the latest patch...Either Auto-Faith or give him a Faith Rod...unless that's what Mace Of Zeus does, don't remember anymore. With a Faith Rod, you could just give him Un-Truth - the Faith status makes it as though he has no Faith, and your low Faith would make it deal top damage. Else, you could work in a blank skillset for him and add in a few moves from different places?

It would be like a double edged sword - if you're trying to take him down with magic, his magic will simply do a LOT more damage back to you. You could also try him as a support unit if you're worried about people trying him with Low Faith - if he can't do a lot of damage to you, he might opt to Haste his fellow Shrine Knights or something to that extent. Imagine a Hasted Vormav =O

For that, you could just modify Haste and Wall and some other things into one of those skillsets, maybe even Yell, or something to that extent. Don't want some people thinking having low Faith will make him weak now, do we?

Concentrate does affect those two Aim abilities, but it's semi easy to stop, as you could wear the Hat (forget which) to disable both statuses. Blast Gun would take a simple Rubber Shoes or something like that to make worthless. Is there a way to give him Stone Gun without having the Initial Petrify kick in? Maybe give him a textbox at the beginning of the battle, sort of how like if Ramza is dead but he has to talk, he becomes revived with 1 HP? Might also work to take off the Petrify status, so he can move and face Ramza or whoever he's talking to?

Hmm...this will be so cool when it's finally done =D
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Post by: Xifanie on October 08, 2007, 09:30:51 pm
Right now no... That's why I gave him the Blast Gun. Anyway all guns are easy to cancel their effects (Blaze/Glacier/Blast).

The thing is that combined, they have so much options that's it's impossible to defend against everything. Rubber Shoes = no protection vs Blood Suck (and Vormav has high move).

I gave Kletian 95 Faith so there's no need for a faith Rod.

I don't want to modify skillsets or anything for this. I want it to be self-dependant and that it can work with a normal game or FFT v1.2.
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Post by: Chrona on October 08, 2007, 09:33:06 pm
Heh okay, sounds nice. With Innate Faith though, UnTruth would have been the perfect counter for a low faith party. If high faith, use main skillset. If low, UnTruth. Whatever though, your choice.

I still think Phantom looks off on Balk though, summons and the like aren't really something he'd find useful
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Post by: Xifanie on October 08, 2007, 09:37:11 pm
Ruber Shoes/Costume + Thief hat = useless balk

Then what do you suggest as his secondary? He's highly likely to need one.

Well I could give him battle skill, but damn look at all those Divine Knights...
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Post by: Chrona on October 08, 2007, 09:50:29 pm
Yeah...now that I think about it, Starry Heaven would just be redundant with his Snipe skills.

Dunno...couldn't think of anything else.

Is it at all possible to set his secondary to Mime, that way he mimes but still has his normal skillset? That would be fun if it was possible

For other movesets, I'd have suggested Destroy Sword as a better Battle Skill for stats, but then realized he doesn't have a sword
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Post by: Xifanie on October 08, 2007, 09:59:29 pm
Yeah but what would he mime? -_-'

All special abilities cannot be mimed.
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Post by: Chrona on October 08, 2007, 10:05:53 pm
Oh right...damnit

Maybe the Bio series of the Apanda?


Only other thing would be that Destroy Sword, which Mel already has
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Post by: Argg0 on October 08, 2007, 11:42:24 pm
Give Faith for Kletian and Un-Truth.

Then say good bye to the 03 Fa guys.

For Balk... If it was possible to start without being Petrified...

Well, Maybe you could give him Stone Gun and put Rofel near him, so that he would use Esuna.

As for secondary... Item and Throw Item Support. Elixirs flying? PD Flying? Hell yeah!
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Post by: VincentCraven on October 09, 2007, 07:42:04 am
doesn't Faith make Un-Truth do no damage?
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Post by: Argg0 on October 09, 2007, 11:54:43 am
Nope.

Faith changes the Fa part to 1...

Like, normal spells use Fa like this:
[CFa/100 * TFa/100 * MA * Q] = Damage
(Q being spell power w/e you call)

Add Faith status on caster and it becomes...
[1 * TFa/100 * MA * Q] = Damage

For Untruth...
[(1 - CFa/100) * (1 - TFa/100) * [(MA + Q) / 2] * MA] = Damage

Add Faith Status on the caster...

[1 * (1 - TFa/100) * [(MA + Q) / 2] * MA] = Damage


Why do I say Balk with item? Only Rofel has a defencive skillset.
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Post by: Xifanie on October 09, 2007, 05:04:09 pm
Kletian + Faith Rod + Un-truth

For beta: Balk + Stone Gun + Throw Item

I just hope Rofel won't Ignore Balk. ;/

If I give Balk Item, he'll always use Elixirs.. is that alright? In other words, he's really going to be a bitch. Not to mention the insane speed setup I gave him.

However if you get Rofl before he casts esuna on Balk, no elixir and no annoying Balk.
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Post by: Chrona on October 09, 2007, 05:26:17 pm
Hehe, that sounds fun. You could always test it out before distributing I guess =p

If the Elixirs seem too cheap, I guess you could just give him Charge. Would give you time to midcharge him, but if he gets off a strong shot someone will die
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Post by: Argg0 on October 09, 2007, 05:37:29 pm
Well, Kletian can still revive Rofel if that's the case...

And, if Balk knows the ability, he will always use it (elixir). So, just make sure he is master chemist and you'll be fine.

Since you don't want use to help you as coders, you could at least let us help with with testing...

Send the codes/whatever  needed to patch that NAO. :(
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Post by: Chrona on October 09, 2007, 06:26:29 pm
Hehe I call beta tester for those battles =D
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Post by: Xifanie on October 09, 2007, 06:32:34 pm
XD

No problem. I'm almost done all I need to do is check the Lucavi setups in their usual battles.

Expect a release in less than 30min. Anyway I can't test myself (I don't have a save on my emulator with DD unlocked) so I'll need some of you to take some pictures.
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Post by: Chrona on October 09, 2007, 06:34:28 pm
Ack...I don't either, just got to Ch2. Argg0, send me yours? =p
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Post by: Xifanie on October 09, 2007, 07:06:14 pm
Here!

http://auritech.eu/ENTD2.rar

Took me a while to get it on the net. ;/

Battle Folder for those who don't know.
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Post by: Chrona on October 09, 2007, 07:10:47 pm
Sooo...what the hell do I do again? XD
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Post by: Xifanie on October 09, 2007, 07:16:59 pm
>_>'

Extract file
Cd Mage Beta
Load ROM
GO in Battle folder
Right click ENTD2.ENT
Import...
Select extracted file
Play

Save states will work as long as you're not in the given battle. That means you can have a state before entering the DD, import the new file, then enter DD.
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Post by: Chrona on October 09, 2007, 07:21:51 pm
Ah okay, got it. I guess I'll wait to steal someone's MCR file =p
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Post by: Xifanie on October 09, 2007, 07:25:54 pm
I forgot to say I had big problems with Dejeon the other day. I can't get the spell quote to come out normally.

Like, I could set Dejeon's effect to Fire 3. Test by casting to get quote, pass, save state... Now I can get to a turn I saved stated (effect as Fire 3) that pops up the quote and it will still pop if I change back the Effect to Dejeon. But if I don't switch, with only the Dejeon Effect itself, there's no fucking way the quote will pop up; EVER. Damn, it pisses me off.
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Post by: Chrona on October 09, 2007, 07:28:54 pm
What kind of quote are you making? And can you fix Beowulf's quotes and add one for Shock?

And yeah...Dejeon sounds overpowered, what are the exact values for it, like accuracy and mp cost and whatever, and what class has it?
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Post by: Xifanie on October 09, 2007, 07:32:51 pm
lol, it was just to take a screenie in the first place. But I made it 64MP, range 5, CTR 5. And I gave it a bad formula so it was affected by faith or something? (I gave it Galaxy Stop's formula, so it ISN'T a fixed 50% to add Stop/Don't Move/Don't Act.
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Post by: Xifanie on October 09, 2007, 07:34:21 pm
I was simply going to put it like:

Ramza
I am the one with the Time God Zomala who can open this gate! Dejeon!

I guess it would fit in the Time Mage skillset actually. XD
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Post by: Chrona on October 09, 2007, 07:37:06 pm
How bout "I shalt steal one of your equips when you die! Dejeon!"

xD

So yeah...do you have MSN or somethin?
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Post by: Xifanie on October 09, 2007, 07:39:52 pm
Check the site you idiot! ;O
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Post by: Chrona on October 09, 2007, 07:40:44 pm
Nuuu, too lazy
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Post by: Xifanie on October 09, 2007, 07:44:06 pm
Use your laziness for the good, not the evil nor the rabbit!
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Post by: Chrona on October 09, 2007, 07:46:04 pm
...I'll consider it, no promises though
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Post by: Xifanie on October 09, 2007, 07:48:54 pm
For the rabbit... A Bunny-dressed girl is an exception.
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Post by: Argg0 on October 09, 2007, 08:30:56 pm
Got it rollying...

So...

The most important... IMO:
People that show on battle are random (like, Balk don't always show up).

Make them show always (set the other three possibilities to be the same or to be N/A, don't assing to None, so it has a chance of no one showing up on that slot).

Lots of bugged sprites...

Like, Ediblis is a female Oracle and Altima II keeps flashing.

Lezares and Wezallef have both Ramza Chapter 1 Sprite.

Viggs has Alma sprite.

Wiegraf have chapter 1 sprite.

Delita has... Finger Guard... >_>

Wiggs, Lezares and Wezallef all have Random gear and secondary abilities (in other words, they suck).

Kletian equipment sucks... badly. Why the heck did you gave him a Wizard OUTFIT? Did you mean to give a Wizard ROBE? Also, Flash Hat for him, not thiefy...

I noticed you spread invisible among lots of units... just letting you know that it doesn't work against humans, we can see them. All they get is a concentrate shoot.

And to finish... Zodiacs HP are LOL ROFL LMAO!!!111!shift+1!! >_>

I hope this help...
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Post by: Chrona on October 09, 2007, 08:35:54 pm
Dude, can I use your MCR file?
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Post by: Argg0 on October 09, 2007, 09:05:54 pm
MCR?

What you mean with that?
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Post by: Chrona on October 09, 2007, 09:07:59 pm
Memorycard file that has a save with Deep Dungeon beaten
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Post by: Argg0 on October 09, 2007, 09:31:17 pm
http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/save ... actics.gme (http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/save/final_fantasy_tactics.gme)
http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/save/fft_end.GME (http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/save/fft_end.GME)

You are some lazy guy... really... ¬¬

Gues what "Game Saves" stand for... on GFaqs... ;)
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Post by: Chrona on October 09, 2007, 09:33:20 pm
They're DexDrive saves, they don't work on ePSXe from what I hear
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Post by: Xifanie on October 09, 2007, 09:45:10 pm
Fix'd

You have your Lucavi battle; don't complain >:(
I already said I can't do anything about their HP right now... was the battle ridiculously easy?

I don't get it why some characters don't appear for battle... I'll probably have to compare with story battles to find something out.

I'm not sure for Elidibs' sprite, but the rest your mentioned should "theorically" be fixed.

And Kletian had random helmet, not Thief hat. :P
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Post by: Xifanie on October 09, 2007, 09:48:27 pm
I feel the demon battle will be too easy. :(

Maybe I should give them all Non-Charge >_>
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Post by: Christopher Robin on October 09, 2007, 10:05:33 pm
DexDrive saves work on ePSXe.  In fact, I have it uses a gme format memory card right now.  The memoery card slot, in fact, accepts MCR, MEM, MCD, and GME types.

And even if it didn't, there ARE memeory card managers that can convert.
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Post by: Argg0 on October 09, 2007, 10:58:16 pm
That's also the only format that can be hacked with FFTastic/FFTEdit
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Post by: Chrona on October 09, 2007, 11:02:23 pm
I'll try it out tomorrow I guess, goin to bed for the night
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Post by: Oblivion_of_Pain on October 11, 2007, 01:34:54 am
Here's a link:
http://www.aldostools.com/index2.html

Has some memory card tools. Convert .mcr to .gme and back, and some other stuff for emulation.
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Post by: Argg0 on October 24, 2007, 12:08:32 pm
So Zodiac, did you gave up on this?

=(
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Post by: VincentCraven on October 24, 2007, 06:41:41 pm
He couldn't have... he's not like philsov (who probably has experienced a devastating tragedy, making him unable to apologize for his absence).

I better release a patch to get this ball rolling again. Too many people have left our midsts. The more controversial the update is the better. Screw RL, we have a crisis on our hands!

But srsly, I think he is just in the process of a new breakthrough. I'd let him answer himself, but this board needs a little more love.   :(
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Post by: Xifanie on October 24, 2007, 07:55:02 pm
And what am I supposed to do? I already told you I did all what I was able to do until now. Plus no one gave me screens. >_>
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Post by: karsten on October 25, 2007, 06:50:47 am
Quote from: "Zodiac"And what am I supposed to do? I already told you I did all what I was able to do until now. Plus no one gave me screens. >_>

i tought it was you going to take the screens :D

anyway since i can't try it so far (i'm moving and no psx for now), anyone that is playing even on emu can press his STAMP button and make a screen right?
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Post by: Xifanie on October 25, 2007, 10:46:02 am
I can't... my closest save is at Nogias. Don't wanna go through entire DD just for that.