Catapult and siege engine...are them possible?

[Dome]

Hi everyone, i was thinking if it's possible to put such units on the battlefield...
Maybe static units or with a move range of 1 (and no jump) but huge attack range (3-12 maybe) and big damage (maybe low percentage of hit)
Defense up as innate (they are not humans, it's hard to damage wood or metal) lot of hp and magic immunity (but fire weakness, they are mainly wood-made)
No more ability than attack or maybe some little ability like:
Throw fire: fire elemental attack (if u give fire to bullets before shot them)
Throw heads: Damage bravery of all enemyes near 4 panel or less to the attacked pannel (it's scary to see an head throwed near u xD)
And something else like that...
Now i'm asking...is it possible?

[philsov]

I don't think you can set a minimum range on abilities, but everything else you talked about is certainly possible.

[Kokojo]

If someone makes the sprites, then it is easy to do.

[Vanya]

It would basically be a custom monster. ^_^

[Dome]

It would basically be a custom monster. ^_^

Yes, a monster like worker 8, with the attack command and some ability in the "catapult" job command xD
In a castle map (maybe bigger than standard map) those units would be great
And of course, because you cant res a catapult, they immediatly turn in chest when they hp reach 0 xD
We could also put door-units (door that can be smashed, like in a siege)
A siege in FFT...maybe it could prove fun...

[Dokurider]

And of course, because you cant res a catapult, they immediatly turn in chest when they hp reach 0 xD

But catapults can be fixed...

[Dome]

And of course, because you cant res a catapult, they immediatly turn in chest when they hp reach 0 xD

But catapults can be fixed...

Then it would need a class that can fix them...a "siege engineer" or a "siege commander"
Maybe we could put 0 speed to the catapult, and an ability of siege engineer that use a particular quick that works only on them (so they "manouver" the catapult, that doesn't work without them) xD

[Dokurider]

And of course, because you cant res a catapult, they immediatly turn in chest when they hp reach 0 xD

But catapults can be fixed...

Then it would need a class that can fix them...a "siege engineer" or a "siege commander"
Maybe we could put 0 speed to the catapult, and an ability of siege engineer that use a particular quick that works only on them (so they "manouver" the catapult, that doesn't work without them) xD

If a squire can revive Worker 8, a giant robot, then why go to the trouble of creating a whole other unit just to maintain this unit?

[Vanya]

Cause it would be cool. ^_^

[DarthPaul]

^I completely agree Domes ideas gave a lot of merit behind them. Now let's see if it goes anywhere because this could make some cool new level's for the PSP multi-player battles.

[Dome]

If a squire can revive Worker 8, a giant robot, then why go to the trouble of creating a whole other unit just to maintain this unit?

I know, but worker 8 is more similar to a human than a catapult, u must agree to that, right? xD
Anyway, it would be fun that the class must be used to make effective the catapult...maybe to shot the catapult need some mana and only the siege engineer can restore it, or something like that...he should also be the only that can make them shot (using his specialized quick), repair them and heal them (using specialized items or ability) and also regive them mana (trought special abilities)
And the catapult shoul have lot of fun shot, otherwise they will be very unusefull...
But, it's possible to make a unit with 0 speed?
And it's possible to make something of what i suggested? (maybe creating a new status: mechanic unit, something similar to undead for the restoration thing)

[Archael]

this isn't an RTS

[Dome]

this isn't an RTS

xD
I still think that some siege in the game would be fun
And it will be even better with some catapult...if it's possible or not to make is another task ^_^
Of course a job that make the catapult work would be even more fun (in my opinion) but i know nothing of hacking...so i'm asking xD

[philsov]

If a squire can revive Worker 8, a giant robot, then why go to the trouble of creating a whole other unit just to maintain this unit?

I know, but worker 8 is more similar to a human than a catapult, u must agree to that, right? xD
Anyway, it would be fun that the class must be used to make effective the catapult...maybe to shot the catapult need some mana and only the siege engineer can restore it, or something like that...he should also be the only that can make them shot (using his specialized quick), repair them and heal them (using specialized items or ability) and also regive them mana (trought special abilities)
And the catapult shoul have lot of fun shot, otherwise they will be very unusefull...
But, it's possible to make a unit with 0 speed?
And it's possible to make something of what i suggested? (maybe creating a new status: mechanic unit, something similar to undead for the restoration thing)

Until we can make chakra, murasame, and item Holy elemental, there will be no way to prevent their healing from actually... healing.  Because then we could get the unit immune to Holy damage and then take over another element to absorb, then make the engineer class the only thing with access to said element.  

No way to mess with the MP thing, though.  Nor can you have a 0 sp unit.  Nor can any monster or people GAIN abilities while mounted/mounting.  

A cannon-type unit is fine by itself, but you went a bit too far off the ledge here :p

[Dome]

If a squire can revive Worker 8, a giant robot, then why go to the trouble of creating a whole other unit just to maintain this unit?

I know, but worker 8 is more similar to a human than a catapult, u must agree to that, right? xD
Anyway, it would be fun that the class must be used to make effective the catapult...maybe to shot the catapult need some mana and only the siege engineer can restore it, or something like that...he should also be the only that can make them shot (using his specialized quick), repair them and heal them (using specialized items or ability) and also regive them mana (trought special abilities)
And the catapult shoul have lot of fun shot, otherwise they will be very unusefull...
But, it's possible to make a unit with 0 speed?
And it's possible to make something of what i suggested? (maybe creating a new status: mechanic unit, something similar to undead for the restoration thing)

Until we can make chakra, murasame, and item Holy elemental, there will be no way to prevent their healing from actually... healing.  Because then we could get the unit immune to Holy damage and then take over another element to absorb, then make the engineer class the only thing with access to said element.  

No way to mess with the MP thing, though.  Nor can you have a 0 sp unit.  Nor can any monster or people GAIN abilities while mounted/mounting.  

A cannon-type unit is fine by itself, but you went a bit too far off the ledge here :p

So, we can make a cannot type unit...but we cannot prevent him to be healed by potions xD
"The catapult is half broken! it wont last long enough to smash the door!"
"Throw an X-Potion to heal it!" xD
Anyway, make it a cross monster (like byblos and worker with some ability that need mana and an attack that dont need it is possible...or i'm still to far? xD

[Archael]

Why would you want a 0 Speed unit?

it'd basically become irrelevant in a battle, because it'd never even get turns to move and act

more like a doodad

[Dome]

Why would you want a 0 Speed unit?

it'd basically become irrelevant in a battle, because it'd never even get turns to move and act

more like a doodad

I asked for a 0 speed unit because i wanted it to work only with the siege engineer (he may use a 1 panel ability that cast quick on the catapult) like he is "charging" the catapult xD

[Archael]

in before not an RTS

o wait

[Dome]

Why would you want a 0 Speed unit?

it'd basically become irrelevant in a battle, because it'd never even get turns to move and act

more like a doodad

I asked the catapult with 0 speed because i wanted it to work only with the siege engineer (he can use a 1-panel ability that cast quick on the catapult) like he is "charging" the catapult with bullets xD
But if it isnt possible, just delete the 0-speed thing xD

[Archael]

But normal units are strong vs. Siege damage! No fortified armor..