Poll
Question: So which will it be?
Option 1: Ovelia abducted
votes: 14
Option 2: Agrias abducted
votes: 35
Title: Ovelia or Agrias
Post by: Zozma on August 07, 2009, 10:09:02 am
Post by: Zozma on August 07, 2009, 10:09:02 am
I have been thinking it over and before i get to the point where it is determined, I must decide what combination of characters will be playable.
Originally it was to be this way:
Agrias gets abducted instead of Ovelia, whom you end up getting late chapter 4. Zalbag Is your holy knight, and Beatrix is available (most likely almost just like a holy knight as well.
However, im quite fond of agrias being in my party so:
Ovelia gets captured anyway, You get Agrias, but later in the game than chapter 2. This results in you haveing 2 holy knights available Zalbag and Agrias. Beatrix would become a boss, defeating her gets you the only Save the Queen sword in this patch which will be altered as well.
This also leaves an open character slot, Allowing a secret way to hire Gafgarion at the last minute which would land you 2 dark knights, in addition to having the 2 holy knights.
remember, its the one that gets abducted that does NOT join your party EVAR
Originally it was to be this way:
Agrias gets abducted instead of Ovelia, whom you end up getting late chapter 4. Zalbag Is your holy knight, and Beatrix is available (most likely almost just like a holy knight as well.
However, im quite fond of agrias being in my party so:
Ovelia gets captured anyway, You get Agrias, but later in the game than chapter 2. This results in you haveing 2 holy knights available Zalbag and Agrias. Beatrix would become a boss, defeating her gets you the only Save the Queen sword in this patch which will be altered as well.
This also leaves an open character slot, Allowing a secret way to hire Gafgarion at the last minute which would land you 2 dark knights, in addition to having the 2 holy knights.
remember, its the one that gets abducted that does NOT join your party EVAR
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Post by: Aquablack on August 07, 2009, 10:17:33 am
Post by: Aquablack on August 07, 2009, 10:17:33 am
I too am fond of Agrias being a member of the party.
edit: I believe I voted wrong, I guess I thought it said Agrias join.
My mistake for not being able to read.
edit: I believe I voted wrong, I guess I thought it said Agrias join.
My mistake for not being able to read.
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Post by: Gotwald on August 07, 2009, 10:36:10 am
Post by: Gotwald on August 07, 2009, 10:36:10 am
Does Ovelia still have MBarrier?
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Post by: Shade on August 07, 2009, 10:47:44 am
Post by: Shade on August 07, 2009, 10:47:44 am
agrias is just a dumb bitch.
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Post by: Zozma on August 07, 2009, 10:48:45 am
Post by: Zozma on August 07, 2009, 10:48:45 am
Ovelia's skillset:
Mbarrier
Esunaga (deathspell2)
Resurrection (raise2 with 100% accuracy, looks like scorpio revive)
Ultima (2)
Wish
Alma, will have this skillset in the graveyard of airships
Mbarrier
Esunaga (deathspell2)
Resurrection (raise2 with 100% accuracy, looks like scorpio revive)
Ultima (2)
Wish
Alma, will have this skillset in the graveyard of airships
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Post by: SilvasRuin on August 07, 2009, 05:11:38 pm
Post by: SilvasRuin on August 07, 2009, 05:11:38 pm
It would be nice to have the absurdly uber white magic spells there, but I'm quite fond of Dark Knights. If it lets me recruit Gafgarion, I'm for it.
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Post by: philsov on August 07, 2009, 05:21:50 pm
Post by: philsov on August 07, 2009, 05:21:50 pm
agrias abducted, because swordskillers suck and MBarrier is FLIPPING SWEET.
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Post by: Kagebunji on August 07, 2009, 05:26:25 pm
Post by: Kagebunji on August 07, 2009, 05:26:25 pm
Agrias abducted, it will be drastic change to main story, besides I would like to have more new chars in my team
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Post by: SilvasRuin on August 07, 2009, 09:15:24 pm
Post by: SilvasRuin on August 07, 2009, 09:15:24 pm
Mainly, I just love to use attacks like how Darkness was in the original FFIV. That is probably THE reason I liked FFX-2. So few FF games have those kinds of Dark Knights. 
Souleater from FFXII and FFTA2 is utter crap.
Souleater from FFXII and FFTA2 is utter crap.
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Post by: Zozma on August 07, 2009, 10:55:02 pm
Post by: Zozma on August 07, 2009, 10:55:02 pm
So it looks like plan A still has the best chance.
Ovelia joining the team.
no option to get Gaffy
but you still have Zalbag and Rad, for a holy and dark knight.
Beatrix could still be available.
I am still considering making Beatrix a high level boss for the "Save the Queen" sword as that's pretty much just another holy knight. I've already exceeded the max party limit with special units as it is.
Ovelia joining the team.
no option to get Gaffy
but you still have Zalbag and Rad, for a holy and dark knight.
Beatrix could still be available.
I am still considering making Beatrix a high level boss for the "Save the Queen" sword as that's pretty much just another holy knight. I've already exceeded the max party limit with special units as it is.
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Post by: DarthPaul on August 07, 2009, 11:30:27 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on August 07, 2009, 11:30:27 pm
Ovelia. My reasons are for those Zoz has already mentioned.
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Post by: Kagebunji on August 08, 2009, 06:51:56 am
Post by: Kagebunji on August 08, 2009, 06:51:56 am
Definitly make Beatrix avaible, maybe you could give her some skills from FF9? For thunder slash I would choose bolt2 image, it looks similiar just remove charging image, Shock can be borrowed from Beowulf/Aliste, and give her cure 2, you could rename her skillset for Seiken.
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Post by: Zozma on August 08, 2009, 07:52:49 am
Post by: Zozma on August 08, 2009, 07:52:49 am
yeah, beatrix skillset already exists now, i think im actually using bolt3 for the effect for thunderslash, and weather or not she gets "shock" is debateable since there's already a character who has that (alicia)
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Post by: Kagebunji on August 08, 2009, 03:15:46 pm
Post by: Kagebunji on August 08, 2009, 03:15:46 pm
How about renaming her job to General? At least she won't be holy knight.
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Post by: Zozma on August 08, 2009, 03:55:05 pm
Post by: Zozma on August 08, 2009, 03:55:05 pm
yeah things would be something like that, but in terms of generalizing what type of character they are.
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Post by: Kagebunji on August 08, 2009, 05:34:47 pm
Post by: Kagebunji on August 08, 2009, 05:34:47 pm
Well, set up your mind about Beatrix and abduction? Surely, I can't wait for this to come out!
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Post by: Zozma on August 10, 2009, 02:04:23 am
Post by: Zozma on August 10, 2009, 02:04:23 am
well then, it looks like people definately would like to get their hands on Ovelia and Beatrix
if not for one or the other. makes sense, changes up from the regular
if not for one or the other. makes sense, changes up from the regular
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Post by: Arvine on September 11, 2009, 09:55:05 pm
Post by: Arvine on September 11, 2009, 09:55:05 pm
Quote from: "Shade"agrias is just a dumb bitch.i second that
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Post by: Zozma on September 12, 2009, 03:30:36 pm
Post by: Zozma on September 12, 2009, 03:30:36 pm
haha, poor agrias, i like her but i still wanted to get the princess as well
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 12, 2009, 10:14:06 pm
Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 12, 2009, 10:14:06 pm
Quote from: "Kagebunji"Definitly make Beatrix avaible, maybe you could give her some skills from FF9? For thunder slash I would choose bolt2 image, it looks similiar just remove charging image, Shock can be borrowed from Beowulf/Aliste, and give her cure 2, you could rename her skillset for Seiken.Haha. That's what I did with my own patch for Beatrix.
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Post by: Zozma on September 12, 2009, 10:15:49 pm
Post by: Zozma on September 12, 2009, 10:15:49 pm
she will have her own special Shock skill since byblos isn't available anymore so theres still two versions of Shock.
Alicia has the spellblade version.
This all works out for me since Agrias is gonna live thru the ending
Alicia has the spellblade version.
This all works out for me since Agrias is gonna live thru the ending
Title: Re: Ovelia or Agrias
Post by: pvrhye on May 02, 2010, 08:27:57 am
Post by: pvrhye on May 02, 2010, 08:27:57 am
consider making the Materia Blade much much better.
Title: Re: Ovelia or Agrias
Post by: Augestein on May 03, 2010, 12:05:20 am
Post by: Augestein on May 03, 2010, 12:05:20 am
That's cool that Agrias gets to live. I really like her. I have no idea why, but I've always used her (and if not, I've at least kept her). I really like Female Warriors/Knights.
Title: Re: Ovelia or Agrias
Post by: sutebenukun on May 03, 2010, 07:48:12 pm
Post by: sutebenukun on May 03, 2010, 07:48:12 pm
Are you going to keep the name of her skills in Final Fantasy IX? Her skillset would then be called Seiken and if that was the case, would you be giving her the abilities she had (at least those similar to it) as well as the med-high level White Magic and good swordskills? To be technical Beatrix was a very good version of a Paladin (sorry Cecil... you suck as a Paladin), Holy Knight, not so much.
Title: Re: Ovelia or Agrias
Post by: Kagebunji on May 04, 2010, 11:18:08 am
Post by: Kagebunji on May 04, 2010, 11:18:08 am
Um all this was discussed and decided long ago. Beatrix's job is General(or Paladin, I do not recall), and she has her Seiken + some White Magic. Besides, if you still didn't noticed, this section is dead, because Zozma is gone. I dunno if he will ever continue this patch, I sure hope so though.
Title: Re: Ovelia or Agrias
Post by: Samuraiblackbelt on May 04, 2010, 01:27:30 pm
Post by: Samuraiblackbelt on May 04, 2010, 01:27:30 pm
just because Zozma isn't currently working on it doesn't mean we shouldn't give input.
Title: Re: Ovelia or Agrias
Post by: Kagebunji on May 04, 2010, 02:16:31 pm
Post by: Kagebunji on May 04, 2010, 02:16:31 pm
But unlike you, I lurked here some time when Zozma was still here, and he said it is already decided. Geez...
Title: Re: Ovelia or Agrias
Post by: Zozma on May 13, 2010, 07:37:27 pm
Post by: Zozma on May 13, 2010, 07:37:27 pm
It was already decided long ago.
No need for spam.
Agrias does not join
Zalbag will join with what was her "Holy Sword" skillset, late in the game
Beatrix will come with the four seiken skills:
Thunder Slash
Stock Break
Climhazzard
Shock
she will not come with white magic in her seiken skillset, no recruitable unit comes with a primary skillset that dupes skills out of the generic sets, such as white magic. she will, however, most likely start with a high level in white mage by default
No need for spam.
Agrias does not join
Zalbag will join with what was her "Holy Sword" skillset, late in the game
Beatrix will come with the four seiken skills:
Thunder Slash
Stock Break
Climhazzard
Shock
she will not come with white magic in her seiken skillset, no recruitable unit comes with a primary skillset that dupes skills out of the generic sets, such as white magic. she will, however, most likely start with a high level in white mage by default
Title: Re: Ovelia or Agrias
Post by: Samuraiblackbelt on May 13, 2010, 10:34:31 pm
Post by: Samuraiblackbelt on May 13, 2010, 10:34:31 pm
EDIT: wait, were they gone before? having issues with FFH on Chrome