Suggestions

[VincentCraven]

Well, if I correct this error right, then it shouldn't be more than ~1 hour, though I probably will overlook something

[Chrona]

Sure, and I'll help you test it out =)

[VincentCraven]

Okay, once I get the Chocobos and the Blue Mage right, it's getting posted!

[Chrona]

And Berserk Ring? =p

[VincentCraven]

Yep, that's in here too.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/29/1552821/SCUS_942.21

Lemme know if that works.

[Chrona]

Yep, works. Where'd you put Move+1?

Edit: Nvm =p

Edit2: Just curious, do ya have MSN or any other messengers?

[VincentCraven]

Now would be the time to get it. This is a lot of posts just between you and me. I'm going to go eat, but are there any free messengers that I can pick up? Never used any of that...

[Chrona]

MSN is pretty cool and free

MSN.com

Have fun eating, I'm training up to Blue Mage =p





Ooh, one small problem, it's still named Calculator. Nothing important, just letting you know. Lost one of my Knights training but meh, he wasn't as important =p

[Asmo X]

Ack. You might have gone a little too far with Meliadoul. She's going to be absolutely brutal. Night Sword and Dark Sword are Troublesome. They're so damn good.

My list for T.G Cid would have been

-Stasis Sword
-Crush Punch
-Shellbust Stab
-Night Sword (toned down. If this will hurt Gaffy too much, maybe give him a better weapon?)
-Magic Ruin

Destroy Sword is a crazy set and giving all of those skills to him is a bit much. At least MP is an easily replenishable commodity. I could see Destroy Sword being vaguely appropriate if it broke stats by 2 but 3-5? That's pushing it.

Oh yeah, I'd leave Split Punch with Mel because it's not crazily powerful (compared to its competition anyway) and it is a far better visual match with the rest of her skills.

Nice call on improving dictionaries. And for letting Mediator equip them. Would a WP boost be appropriate too?

Finally, I think I misunderstood what you were trying to achieve by including Jump +1. Did you include it for horizontal jumping? If so I have to ask: horizontal jumping clears jump stat/2 panels, yeah? So If I have an even numbered jump stat, say 4, and I use Jump +1 to bring it to 5, will my horizontal jump be rounded up to 3 panels? If not, you could probably include one of the higher jumps. Since you took out ignore height, I wouldn't object to any of them.

[VincentCraven]

Jump 4 + Jump+1 = 2 Horizontal

Jump 4 + Jump+1 + Spike Boots = 3 Horizontal

It truncates it, so 5 = 2 and 6 = 3

[Xifanie]

I did modify the calc sprite to make a male blue mage (uncompleted) should I look more into it? It's buggy since it's loading a sprite of calc during attack animation and formation screen still has calc. Probably just a new image I need to find. I took a knight and made it FFV style.

[VincentCraven]

Only if it isn't a whole lot of work. Looks are the least of my concerns, but eventually I will want to fix the sprites and text.

To all:

I found a problem with my spreadsheet and I am fixing it. Apparently there is a problem with calculating the patch/codes, so my recent changes weren't added. Because of this, there are discrepancies between what I say Blue Mage has and what it actually has (skillset-wise).

[VincentCraven]

Ack. You might have gone a little too far with Meliadoul. She's going to be absolutely brutal. Night Sword and Dark Sword are Troublesome. They're so damn good.

My list for T.G Cid would have been

-Stasis Sword
-Crush Punch
-Shellbust Stab
-Night Sword (toned down. If this will hurt Gaffy too much, maybe give him a better weapon?)
-Magic Ruin

Destroy Sword is a crazy set and giving all of those skills to him is a bit much. At least MP is an easily replenishable commodity. I could see Destroy Sword being vaguely appropriate if it broke stats by 2 but 3-5? That's pushing it.

Oh yeah, I'd leave Split Punch with Mel because it's not crazily powerful (compared to its competition anyway) and it is a far better visual match with the rest of her skills.

Nice call on improving dictionaries. And for letting Mediator equip them. Would a WP boost be appropriate too?

-Yep, you are right. I "unbroke" Orlandu and broke Meliadoul. How thoughtless of me

-Are you saying that this is TG Cid's total set? I guess it could work... lemme think on it. Night Sword cannot be toned down with my current tools, so I think that it should just go away for now

-Destroy Sword.... oh right. That's why TG Cid didn't have it originally. I'd like to hear what others have to say about Destroy Sword. What do you (the reader) think about having access to Destroy Sword?

-I'm leaning toward changing Dark Sword to attack a single panel and have a formula of PA*WP. Since Gafgarion never uses it, I can just remove it from everyone and make it into Meliadoul's non-break equip attack.  Does it need a special effect to go with it?

-Glad you like the dictionary idea. WP may be boosted, but I have to see it in action first.

[Asmo X]

-Yeah that's Cid's total set. I wanted to have a part of each set and that's as reasonable as I could make it.

-I'd be all for Destroy Sword if its effects were temporary

-Don't have to change Dark Sword. It does something unique. But yeah, I remembered if we take it Away from Cid, we won't have anyone who can/will use it. I wanted to stop Cid from making the other special knight classes redundant while forgetting that there is no other Dark Knight class properly available to the player. Stupid me. What if Cid's list was:

Stasis Sword
Crush Punch
Shellbust Stab
Night Sword
Dark Sword
Power Ruin (and god help us all)

[Prinygod]

im not so sure about that. Yes, destroy sword is good, however remember that it is only 2v0 which means you will rarely get more than one person with it at once. It also has a charge time and mp cost, and battle skill has more stat reduction with 2 swords, and more range with ranged weapons. Finally each turn that orlandu uses it is a turn he is not killing the enemy, which he can often do.

[VincentCraven]

We'll see. The title "All Swordskill" seems to scream "Look at me! I'm broken!!!" It's a difficult thing to balance TG Cid...

Although I did originally add it to Meliadoul... isn't Night Sword kinda broken? I'm not sure it should stay on TG Cid. Better Destroy Sword than Night Sword, with it's kill-heal abilities. Knight Swords are just too powerful to keep Night Sword from being broken. Sigh...

[Xifanie]

IMHO, If Orlandu has horrible MP and can't equip robes, plus average-low PA... I doubt he'd be a threat anymore. He'd have to constantly use Dark Sword or get MP Healed by someone.

You know, like Tellah that can't even cast Meteo because he lacks MP.

Both are awfully old turds.

[VincentCraven]

Okay, sounds fine. Btw, What do you think about Night Sword? And should Holy Swordsman equip Armor, Clothes, or Both?

[karsten]

I did modify the calc sprite to make a male blue mage (uncompleted) should I look more into it? It's buggy since it's loading a sprite of calc during attack animation and formation screen still has calc. Probably just a new image I need to find. I took a knight and made it FFV style.

i want to see it!

[karsten]

IMHO, If Orlandu has horrible MP and can't equip robes, plus average-low PA... I doubt he'd be a threat anymore. He'd have to constantly use Dark Sword or get MP Healed by someone.

You know, like Tellah that can't even cast Meteo because he lacks MP.

Both are awfully old turds.

wait, wait i tought that it was MA affecting swordskills... or i'm wrong?