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☢ ☢ ☢ FFT Arena AI Tournament Season 2 ☢ ☢ ☢

Started by CT5Holy, July 05, 2013, 03:03:08 am

Torgo

I caught one mild discrepancy in my team. Nothing on the technical side, but one of the names. It's Arch Hall Jr., not Hill.



And don't you forget it.

Barren

I already changed your unit's name on the spread sheet. The other hosts will catch on
  • Modding version: Other/Unknown
You dare cross blades with me?

Eternal

I can only hope that my team performs as intended and loses in a spectacular and elegant way. Afterall, it's not about who wins, it's about who puts on the best show!
  • Modding version: PSX & WotL
"You, no less human than we? Ha! Now there's a beastly thought. You've been less than we from the moment your baseborn father fell upon your mother in whatever gutter saw you sired! You've been chattel since you came into the world drenched in common blood!"
  • Discord username: eternal248#1817

Otabo

Good luck to everyone.

May the RNG have mercy on ALL of our souls...

Dokurider

I'm absolutely thrilled at all of the Two Hand Katars in this tourney, especially the Cursed ones. I was really hoping for more Ele Guns so we can get more data on them. In any case, Rebalancing Arena is a combination of Peking Dragon Company's keystone immortality (three immortal units, one really unkillable unit). It's pretty much everything I've learned in Arena so far, the power of Balance Knights(even though I stole it from Raven's team), the unorthodoxy of Frog, the absolute CC of Berserk, the stall power of immortality, hell I even managed to squeeze Move - 1 in there, slotting it into babysitting my Phylactery Doorstop unit. I think the only think I would readjust would be that I don't think I need Weapon Break (and therefore the entire Snipe skillset) as much as I thought previously. Then again, that's a big maybe, I probably should have ran this against Y CHIKEN SO DERICIOUS? and see if I could kill their dumb asses. Otherwise I'm pretty pleased with my team right now.

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Do you mean Shieldrender never attacks twice?  It does in my (pre-hotfix) version of FFT.

Interesting, Malroth tested and confirmed it doesn't work. And I can confirm that Bow Gun doesn't work either (I had a team that tried to use Bow Gun, did not work at all).

Quote from: Torgo on July 05, 2013, 01:23:01 pm
I caught one mild discrepancy in my team. Nothing on the technical side, but one of the names. It's Arch Hall Jr., not Hill.



And don't you forget it.


lol
when did he make that face?

Barren

  • Modding version: Other/Unknown
You dare cross blades with me?


Barren

Attention fellow hosts: When you upload the match you're recording make sure to put them in the Season 2 Tournament playlist I just created
  • Modding version: Other/Unknown
You dare cross blades with me?

Gaignun

Time for some numbers.  Get your numbers.


         Primary  Secondary    Total
Squire     05        06       11  (08%)
Chemist    06        25       32  (22%)  Most popular secondary
Paladin    14        01       15  (11%)  2 have empty primaries
Archer     22        04       26  (19%)  Most popular primary; 3 have empty primaries
Monk       08        15       23  (16%)
Priest     13        11       24  (17%)
Wizard     04        04       08  (06%)
Time Mage  04        09       13  (09%)
Summoner   04        11       15  (11%)
Thief      10        09       19  (14%)
Mediator   05        08       13  (09%)
Oracle     04        03       07  (05%)
Geomancer  08        01       10  (06%)  1 has an empty primary
Lancer     03        01       04  (03%)
Samurai    09        19       28  (20%)  1 has an empty primary
Ninja      12        05       17  (12%)  4 have empty primaries
Scholar    03        01       04  (03%)
Bard       03        01       04  (03%)  2 have empty primaries
Dancer     03        01       04  (03%)
Mime       00        NA       00  (00%)

Distribution of Offense
=======================
PA-based   68 (49%)
MA-based   59 (42%)




** Only a choice selection is displayed **

Steal (19 users)
================
Quickening       12 (63%)
Steal Heart      11 (58%)
Steal Accessory  08 (42%)

Talk Skill (13 users)
=====================
Blackmail      02 (15%)
Solution       01 (08%)
Insult         04 (30%)
Refute         02 (15%)
Death Sentence 05 (38%)
Mimic Daravon  08 (62%)
No others!

Draw Out (28 users)
===================
Asura           01 (04%)
Koutetsu        04 (14%)
Bizen Boat      04 (14%)
Murasame        12 (41%)
Kiyomori        05 (18%)
Heaven's Cloud  02 (07%)
Kikuichimonji   06 (21%)
Muramasa        02 (07%)
Masamune        23 (79%)
Chirijiraden    05 (18%)
* Only Masamune                 11 (39%)
* No MA-based offensive skills  13 (46%)

Ninjutsu (17 users)
===================
Kagesougi   10 (59%)
Only one ton (Suiton, represented by EmmaNigma).  Flash Hats run wild!





The Craven
==========
40 Br        62  (44%)
40 Fa        37  (26%)
40 BrFa      13  (09%)

The Reckless
============
70 Br        64  (46%)
70 Fa        57  (41%)
70 BrFa      14  (10%)

The One-Dimensional
===================
70/40 BrFa   23  (16%)
40/70 BrFa   38  (27%)




** Unused abilities are not displayed **

Offensive
=========
Counter             08
Counter Flood       11
Counter Magic       05
Meatbone Slash      01
----------------------
Total               25 (18%)

Defensive
=========
Auto Potion         29  By far the most popular reaction (used by 21% of all units)
Damage Split        07
HP Restore          13
MP Restore          03
Distribute          03
Regenerator         02
Dragon Spirit       08
Projectile Guard    06
Finger Guard        03
Awareness           02
Abandon             09
Speed Save          05
Critical Quick      04
Chrono Trigger      03
PA Save             06
MA Save             04
----------------------
Total              111 (79%)




** Unused abilities are not displayed **

Offensive
=========
Attack UP           14
Magic Attack UP     16
Overwhelm           09
Concentrate         11
Two Hands           08
Two Swords          08
Martial Arts        07
Equip Polearm       02
Equip Light Blade   02
-----------------------
Total               77 (55%)

Defensive
=========
Defense UP          13
Magic Defend UP     12
Unyielding          08
Throw Item          07
Short Charge        13
Half of MP          02
Maintenance         02
Equip Shield        01
Equip Armor         02
-----------------------
Total               60 (43%)




Move-HP UP          42
Move-MP UP          29
Move +1             08
Move -1             01
Jump +1             02
Jump +2             05
Ignore Height       01
Float               04
Teleport            05
Fly                 04
Flee                02
Warpath             20   Only 6 users cover their PA weakness (4 have Cherche; 2 have mantles)
Pilgrimage          06   5 users cover their MA weakness (3 have Setiemson; 2 have Reflect Ring)




Throwing Knife      00
Dual Cutters        01
Repel Knife         03
Mage Masher         00
Platina Dagger      03
Main Gauche         02
Orichalcum          00
Katar               05  All 5 are used with two hands
Air Knife           01

Hidden Knife        06  Only 32% (6/19) of dual-wielders are using these.
Ninja Knife         03
Short Edge          03
Ninja Edge          00
Spell Edge          00
Sasuke Knife        02
Iga Knife           01
Koga Knife          01

Phoenix Blade       02
Tactician's Blade   00
Parry Edge          01
Moonlight           01
Blood Sword         01
Coral Sword         01
Ancient Sword       05
Sleep Sword         04
Platinum Sword      01
Shieldrender        01
Ice Brand           00
Rune Blade          07
Lionheart           00
Ultima Weapon       00

Defender            00
Save the Queen      00
Excalibur           00
Ragnarok            00
Chaos Blade         01

Asura Knife         00
Kotetsu Knife       00
Bizen Boat          00
Murasame            03
Heaven's Cloud      00
Kiyomori            02
Muramasa            00
Kikuichimonji       00
Masamune            02
Chirijiraden        02

Battle Axe          05
Giant Axe           01
Slasher             00

Prismatic Rod       01
Thunder Rod         00
Flame Rod           01
Ice Rod             00
Poison Rod          00
Wizard Rod          04
Dragon Rod          00
Faith Rod           01

White Staff         00
Healing Staff       00
Rainbow Staff       01
Wizard Staff        10
Gold Staff          01
Mace of Zeus        04

Sadist's Whip       00
Spiked Futon        00
Aspergillum         02
Scorpion Tail       04

Romanda Gun         01
Mythril Gun         01
Stone Gun           03
Blaze Gun           03
Glacier Gun         03
Blast Gun           04

Bow Gun             02
Night Knight        00
Silencer            00
Poison Bow          00
Hunting Bow         01
Gastrafitis         00

Long Bow            00
Silver Bow          00
Ice Bow             00
Lightning Bow       00
Windslash Bow       00
Mythril Bow         05
Ultimus Bow         04

Lamia Harp          00
Bloody Strings      01
Fairy Harp          00

Necronomicon        00
Monster Dict        01
Papyrus Plate       00
Madlemgen           01

Javelin             01
Spear               00
Mythril Spear       00
Partisan            00
Obelisk             00
Holy Lance          00
Dragon Whisker      03

Iron Fan            00
Gokuu Rod           00
Ivory Rod           02
Octagon Rod         02
Whale Whisker       00

C Bag               01
FS Bag              04
P Bag               03
H Bag               05

Persia              00
Cashmere            00
Ryozan Silk         00




Mythril Shield      02
Gold Shield         00
Ice Shield          01
Flame Shield        00
Aegis Shield        08
Diamond Shield      00
Platina Shield      01
Crystal Shield      04
Genji Shield        09  PA junkies!
Kaiser Plate        06
Zephyr Shield       06
Escutcheon II       04




Barbuta             02
Mythril Helmet      01
Gold Helmet         03
Cross Helmet        02
Diamond Helmet      05
Platina Helmet      03
Circlet             05
Crystal Helmet      05
Genji Helmet        01
Grand Helmet        01

Green Beret         17
Twist Headband      13
Holy Miter          07
Black Hood          16
Golden Hairpin      21
Flash Hat           04
Thief Hat           26  9 are paired with Black Costume

Focus Band          01
Choice Band         00
Chakra Band         07




Gold Armor          03
Diamond Armor       07
Platina Armor       04
Carabini Mail       03
Crystal Armor       00
Genji Armor         00
Reflect Mail        00
Maximilian          00

Wizard Outfit       04
Brigandine          08
Santa Outfit        03
Power Sleeve        19  PA junkies!
Earth Clothes       10
Secret Clothes      04
Black Costume       24  9 are paired with Thief Hat
Rubber Costume      10

Linen Robe          00
Silk Robe           01
Wizard Robe         01
Chameleon Robe      02
White Robe          10  60% (6/10) also have Magic Defend UP.  1 has Maintenance.
Black Robe          02
Light Robe          04
Robe of Lords       10




Battle Boots        03
Germinas Boots      07
Rubber Shoes        03
Feather Boots       02
Sprint Shoes        02
Red Shoes           03
Iron Boots          01
Power Wrist         00
Genji Gauntlet      00
Bracer              10  PA junkies!
Reflect Ring        05
Defense Ring        12
Magic Ring          06
Cursed Ring         11  All but 2 cover their fire weakness
Angel Ring          10
Diamond Armlet      04
Jade Armlet         00
108 Gems            06
N-Kai Armlet        00
Defense Armlet      00
Small Mantle        00
Leather Mantle      02
Wizard Mantle       07
Elf Mantle          01
Dracula Mantle      02
Feather Mantle      02
Vanish Mantle       01
Chantage            11
Cherche             11
Setiemson           11
Salty Rage          03




Elemental Resistance (Rs)
=============================
      Fr Ic Lt Wn Wt Er Hy Dk
Ab    24 04 14 09 22 16 08 35
Nu    00 00 03 02 02 06 11 00
Hv    14 14 14 26 26 26 00 00
-----------------------------
Rs(%) 22 08 17 17 26 25 14 25

Explanation:
  Resistance represents the average resistance toward an element.  It is given by
    Rs = [(Ab+Nu)+0.5(Hv)] / n
  where
    Rs: resistance of a given element
    Ab: number of units that absorb the element
    Nu: number of units that null the element
    Hv: number of units that halve the element
    n:  number of units in total (here 140)

  Rs ranges between 0% and 100%.  A value of 0% means no unit resists the
  element, so the element is always effective for offense.  A value of 100%
  means every unit completely resists (absorbs or nulls) the element, so the
  element is completely ineffective for offense.




      1st 2nd
Black  11  03
Blue   03  13
Red    04  05
Green  04  03
White  07  03
Yellow 02  05
Brown  03  02


Andante49

Thanks again for putting this on, looks like it'll be a blast. Good luck JamesOnyx and everyone else.

I'm off to offer ritual sacrifices to the RNG

CT5Holy

If you guys notice any discrepancies/errors in your team, post them here so all the hosts/vid recorders can note the changes, and I can make the appropriate edits in the 'Entrants' post.

Also, thanks Gaignun for once again giving us all our much needed numbers! whee

EDIT: 3 Repel Knives! That's a weapon I was definitely curious about. I didn't use it cause I think The Damned said it didn't work properly. =/
Only 10 spellguns? Fine by me! >_>
A lot of Archers, and no mimes! That makes me sad, although it's not surprising.

gooooo Auto Potion
Move-HP UP and Move-MP UP are once again, to no one's surprise, the overwhelming favorites
Only 5 users with Chiri? Huh.

I'm the only one with Javelin~ (berserk that unit and I'll cry)
A lot of unused weapons, though actually there's a few surprising one-ofs here and there. The elemental spears are still like completely unused, low crossbow representation, and only Mythril and Ultimus bows are used from longbows.
Excellent spread on the headgears, that's good to see.
Perfumes still popular, including 3 Salty Rages!

And I'm sure there's still plenty of interesting things to note!
Winner of the 1st FFT 1.3 AI Tourney

reinoe

Quote from: Gaignun on July 05, 2013, 03:11:16 pm
Time for some numbers.  Get your numbers.


         Primary  Secondary    Total
Squire     05        06       11  (08%)
Chemist    06        25       32  (22%)  Most popular secondary
Paladin    14        01       15  (11%)  2 have empty primaries
Archer     22        04       26  (19%)  Most popular primary; 3 have empty primaries
Monk       08        15       23  (16%)
Priest     13        11       24  (17%)
Wizard     04        04       08  (06%)
Time Mage  04        09       13  (09%)
Summoner   04        11       15  (11%)
Thief      10        09       19  (14%)
Mediator   05        08       13  (09%)
Oracle     04        03       07  (05%)
Geomancer  08        01       10  (06%)  1 has an empty primary
Lancer     03        01       04  (03%)
Samurai    09        19       28  (20%)  1 has an empty primary
Ninja      12        05       17  (12%)  4 have empty primaries
Scholar    03        01       04  (03%)
Bard       03        01       04  (03%)  2 have empty primaries
Dancer     03        01       04  (03%)
Mime       00        NA       00  (00%)

Distribution of Offense
=======================
PA-based   68 (49%)
MA-based   59 (42%)




** Only a choice selection is displayed **

Steal (19 users)
================
Quickening       12 (63%)
Steal Heart      11 (58%)
Steal Accessory  08 (42%)

Talk Skill (13 users)
=====================
Blackmail      02 (15%)
Solution       01 (08%)
Insult         04 (30%)
Refute         02 (15%)
Death Sentence 05 (38%)
Mimic Daravon  08 (62%)
No others!

Draw Out (28 users)
===================
Asura           01 (04%)
Koutetsu        04 (14%)
Bizen Boat      04 (14%)
Murasame        12 (41%)
Kiyomori        05 (18%)
Heaven's Cloud  02 (07%)
Kikuichimonji   06 (21%)
Muramasa        02 (07%)
Masamune        23 (79%)
Chirijiraden    05 (18%)
* Only Masamune                 11 (39%)
* No MA-based offensive skills  13 (46%)

Ninjutsu (17 users)
===================
Kagesougi   10 (59%)
Only one ton (Suiton, represented by EmmaNigma).  Flash Hats run wild!





The Craven
==========
40 Br        62  (44%)
40 Fa        37  (26%)
40 BrFa      13  (09%)

The Reckless
============
70 Br        64  (46%)
70 Fa        57  (41%)
70 BrFa      14  (10%)

The One-Dimensional
===================
70/40 BrFa   23  (16%)
40/70 BrFa   38  (27%)




** Unused abilities are not displayed **

Offensive
=========
Counter             08
Counter Flood       11
Counter Magic       05
Meatbone Slash      01
----------------------
Total               25 (18%)

Defensive
=========
Auto Potion         29  By far the most popular reaction (used by 21% of all units)
Damage Split        07
HP Restore          13
MP Restore          03
Distribute          03
Regenerator         02
Dragon Spirit       08
Projectile Guard    06
Finger Guard        03
Awareness           02
Abandon             09
Speed Save          05
Critical Quick      04
Chrono Trigger      03
PA Save             06
MA Save             04
----------------------
Total              111 (79%)




** Unused abilities are not displayed **

Offensive
=========
Attack UP           14
Magic Attack UP     16
Overwhelm           09
Concentrate         11
Two Hands           08
Two Swords          08
Martial Arts        07
Equip Polearm       02
Equip Light Blade   02
-----------------------
Total               77 (55%)

Defensive
=========
Defense UP          13
Magic Defend UP     12
Unyielding          08
Throw Item          07
Short Charge        13
Half of MP          02
Maintenance         02
Equip Shield        01
Equip Armor         02
-----------------------
Total               60 (43%)




Move-HP UP          42
Move-MP UP          29
Move +1             08
Jump +1             02
Jump +2             05
Ignore Height       01
Float               04
Teleport            05
Fly                 04
Flee                02
Warpath             20   Only 6 users cover their PA weakness (4 have Cherche; 2 have mantles)
Pilgrimage          06   5 users cover their MA weakness (3 have Setiemson; 2 have Reflect Ring)




Throwing Knife      00
Dual Cutters        01
Repel Knife         03
Mage Masher         00
Platina Dagger      03
Main Gauche         02
Orichalcum          00
Katar               05  All 5 are used with two hands
Air Knife           01

Hidden Knife        06  Only 32% (6/19) of dual-wielders are using these.
Ninja Knife         03
Short Edge          03
Ninja Edge          00
Spell Edge          00
Sasuke Knife        02
Iga Knife           01
Koga Knife          01

Phoenix Blade       02
Tactician's Blade   00
Parry Edge          01
Moonlight           01
Blood Sword         01
Coral Sword         01
Ancient Sword       05
Sleep Sword         04
Platinum Sword      01
Shieldrender        01
Ice Brand           00
Rune Blade          07
Lionheart           00
Ultima Weapon       00

Defender            00
Save the Queen      00
Excalibur           00
Ragnarok            00
Chaos Blade         01

Asura Knife         00
Kotetsu Knife       00
Bizen Boat          00
Murasame            03
Heaven's Cloud      00
Kiyomori            02
Muramasa            00
Kikuichimonji       00
Masamune            02
Chirijiraden        02

Battle Axe          05
Giant Axe           01
Slasher             00

Prismatic Rod       01
Thunder Rod         00
Flame Rod           01
Ice Rod             00
Poison Rod          00
Wizard Rod          04
Dragon Rod          00
Faith Rod           01

White Staff         00
Healing Staff       00
Rainbow Staff       01
Wizard Staff        10
Gold Staff          01
Mace of Zeus        04

Sadist's Whip       00
Spiked Futon        00
Aspergillum         02
Scorpion Tail       04

Romanda Gun         01
Mythril Gun         01
Stone Gun           03
Blaze Gun           03
Glacier Gun         03
Blast Gun           04

Bow Gun             02
Night Knight        00
Silencer            00
Poison Bow          00
Hunting Bow         01
Gastrafitis         00

Long Bow            00
Silver Bow          00
Ice Bow             00
Lightning Bow       00
Windslash Bow       00
Mythril Bow         05
Ultimus Bow         04

Lamia Harp          00
Bloody Strings      01
Fairy Harp          00

Necronomicon        00
Monster Dict        01
Papyrus Plate       00
Madlemgen           01

Javelin             01
Spear               00
Mythril Spear       00
Partisan            00
Obelisk             00
Holy Lance          00
Dragon Whisker      03

Iron Fan            00
Gokuu Rod           00
Ivory Rod           02
Octagon Rod         02
Whale Whisker       00

C Bag               01
FS Bag              04
P Bag               03
H Bag               05

Persia              00
Cashmere            00
Ryozan Silk         00




Mythril Shield      02
Gold Shield         00
Ice Shield          01
Flame Shield        00
Aegis Shield        08
Diamond Shield      00
Platina Shield      01
Crystal Shield      04
Genji Shield        09  PA junkies!
Kaiser Plate        06
Zephyr Shield       06
Escutcheon II       04




Barbuta             02
Mythril Helmet      01
Gold Helmet         03
Cross Helmet        02
Diamond Helmet      05
Platina Helmet      03
Circlet             05
Crystal Helmet      05
Genji Helmet        01
Grand Helmet        01

Green Beret         17
Twist Headband      13
Holy Miter          07
Black Hood          16
Golden Hairpin      21
Flash Hat           04
Thief Hat           26  9 are paired with Black Costume

Focus Band          01
Choice Band         00
Chakra Band         07




Gold Armor          03
Diamond Armor       07
Platina Armor       04
Carabini Mail       03
Crystal Armor       00
Genji Armor         00
Reflect Mail        00
Maximilian          00

Wizard Outfit       04
Brigandine          08
Santa Outfit        03
Power Sleeve        19  PA junkies!
Earth Clothes       10
Secret Clothes      04
Black Costume       24  9 are paired with Thief Hat
Rubber Costume      10

Linen Robe          00
Silk Robe           01
Wizard Robe         01
Chameleon Robe      02
White Robe          10  60% (6/10) also have Magic Defend UP.  1 has Maintenance.
Black Robe          02
Light Robe          04
Robe of Lords       10




Battle Boots        03
Germinas Boots      07
Rubber Shoes        03
Feather Boots       02
Sprint Shoes        02
Red Shoes           03
Iron Boots          01
Power Wrist         00
Genji Gauntlet      00
Bracer              10  PA junkies!
Reflect Ring        05
Defense Ring        12
Magic Ring          06
Cursed Ring         11  All but 2 cover their fire weakness
Angel Ring          10
Diamond Armlet      04
Jade Armlet         00
108 Gems            06
N-Kai Armlet        00
Defense Armlet      00
Small Mantle        00
Leather Mantle      02
Wizard Mantle       07
Elf Mantle          01
Dracula Mantle      02
Feather Mantle      02
Vanish Mantle       01
Chantage            11
Cherche             11
Setiemson           11
Salty Rage          03




Elemental Resistance (Rs)
=============================
      Fr Ic Lt Wn Wt Er Hy Dk
Ab    24 04 14 09 22 16 08 35
Nu    00 00 03 02 02 06 11 00
Hv    14 14 14 26 26 26 00 00
-----------------------------
Rs(%) 22 08 17 17 26 25 14 25

Explanation:
  Resistance represents the average resistance toward an element.  It is given by
    Rs = [(Ab+Nu)+0.5(Hv)] / n
  where
    Rs: resistance of a given element
    Ab: number of units that absorb the element
    Nu: number of units that null the element
    Hv: number of units that halve the element
    n:  number of units in total (here 140)

  Rs ranges between 0% and 100%.  A value of 0% means no unit resists the
  element, so the element is always effective for offense.  A value of 100%
  means every unit completely resists (absorbs or nulls) the element, so the
  element is completely ineffective for offense.




A couple of thoughts based on these numbers and in a compare/contrast with Season 1.

Usually there's a least one Mime.  I guess with Autopotion consistently being one of the most used reactions, there was just no way to make a song/dance/mime team work. 

Bards are consistently selected for their MA+HP, with their primary skill often not even selected.

Despite there being more players last time around, there are more wizard primary and secondary slots selected for this season.  Those buffs must have helped.

Not a single Grand Cross and only 2 Southern Crosses.  This seems hard to understand at first but then you think about all the moving parts involved in a Grand Cross team and it makes sense (High PA, MP RESTORATION on units that don't typically run a lot of MP, Blindness protection, protecting allies who may get in the crossfire.

Bard and Scholar popularity took a major nosedive.  Scholar makes sense, Bard doesn't.

By a country mile, Autopotion continues to be the most popular support.

Despite forum reservations about Concentrate being out of control when it was first introduced, not a single unit is utilizing that support this season. 

I was going to post a lot more about the numbers but I'm going to take a nap instead.  Good luck everyone (except DomieV)!
My dreams can come true!


Malroth

Just saw my first opponent.  Wiz you've got a really good team that seems to have a very good chance of taking the whole tournament but My team's no slouch and has a fair shot of taking you down so I'm not making this easy on you.

Otabo

Darn, and I thought I would be the one to get away as being the only one to run both Ignore Height and Feather Boots...

Malroth

A note to Reinoe.  With autopotion there is one way to make Sing/dance teams work,  Nameless dance to inflict Oil then use Summons or Elemental Swords and Grand Cross to 1hko anything,  can have INSANE DPS but such a team is absolute crap when it comes to status removal.   

The Damned

July 05, 2013, 09:26:26 pm #36 Last Edit: July 05, 2013, 10:09:10 pm by The Damned
(...Wait, Gaignun already crunched the numbers I've been wasting hours on six hours ago?)

*frustrated sigh*

Ugh. This is what I get for not refreshing enough, especially given my Internet has been back for several hours now.

Well...thanks for that, even if I loathe the compression of the Code function.

*goes off to watch first video*
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Wiz

You won't be able to beat me Malroth. Your damage output's too low with the magic gunners not having: Overwhelm, Strengthen: X, Magic Attack Up, or Pilgrimage or a combination of all. Even with breaks being present, the DPS is easily healed by a single X-Potion for 120 HP and that doesn't even account for Move-HP UP (+) & Regen. More importantly, I have Berserk up my arsenal which will be a difficult thing for your team to cope with and pretty much make everyone useless and that's before inflicting everyone with Kiyomori.

Thanks for the compliment, but unless Angelus wins in the 1st Round, Doku's going to knock me out in Round 2 because his team's a hard-counter to mine. His mediator is going to be the bane of my existence because Richter Belmont won't steal her accessory due to the AI prioritizing damage over stealing since the HP Threshold reaches a certain point. 120 HP X-Potions take ~43 % of her health bar and the AI will be doing that 99% of the time because that percentage is very high.

Cursed Ring's broken property of getting up 100% of the time is what's the kicker. High speed values (11+) minimize the turns lost and make it pretty much the go-to approach for any fast units. If there was a way to lower the rate to "66% live or 33% crystalize", it would be more fair and currently only OP. There'd be risk and not the brain dead approach of "LOL I'll create a glass cannon that I normally wouldn't create because he/she will be immortal essentially". To my knowledge however, there's no way of altering that.

It'd be a miracle if I clawed my way out of the Loser's Bracket, but I doubt that'll happen with Cursed Ring's stupidity along with Kagesougi + Ninjas + Hidden Knife & Ninja Knife + Attack Up combo. Three Support Abilities on one unit, Two Swords + Attack UP + "Concentrate" via transparent status, please.
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