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Modding => Spriting => Topic started by: lunar on November 07, 2018, 05:57:41 pm

Title: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: lunar on November 07, 2018, 05:57:41 pm
so i saw that some one made squall from final fantasy 8 so i thought it would be a good idea to make seifer also but i really don't know what to do ive heard of frankinspriting but i think this would more details for this. but this is the sprite im going off of and idk what to do from here.
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: Valkirst on November 08, 2018, 11:55:17 pm
Hey Hey, I saw what you were doing and um I decided to put my own together using a different sprite but which is very similar to the one you're using. Hopefully what I'm going to say makes sense, so that you get the gist of what you have to do. I want you to practice doing the head swapping so that you can get used to it.

So the first thing that I did was go through the main site and actually look through all of the "custom sprites" that were already done before.  I knew there was another character that had a trench coat which is Dante by Amici and for the hair I found M Warlock by R999.

1. So now I noticed that Dante had white hair already and the trench coat was red so all I did was switch the pixels on the pallet from the white the red and presto, we have a white trenchcoat and the black legs and gloves you needed. So obviously the next thing we need to do is to do a head switch with the Warlock. 
(http://i66.tinypic.com/rlgv8h.png)

2. What I want you to notice is the palette and that I cleaned out everything with green that was unnecessary except for the head by simply replacing some colors in the palette.
3. I did notice that the color of the hair wasn't quite right so I went and found that male White Mage which is a little bit more blonde and went ahead and replaced the colors.
4. Now that everything was clear notice the arrows where we have ourselves a little floating head. Using the magic wand tool at 95 tolerance you can cleanly cut it out.
(http://i68.tinypic.com/wbquk5.png)

5. So the next thing I did was go back to Dante's sprite and to align all the palette colors to make sure that I have the whites where I needed to have them the blacks where I needed to have them and also the blondes and purple for the shirt.
6. Now that I have the head all cleaned up the Warlock sprite I can now copy and paste it over to Dante's sprite.
(http://i68.tinypic.com/119yt8w.png)

7. Here it is copied and you can see there are some excess sprites around the sides.
(http://i64.tinypic.com/2hp7uwo.png)


8. Now here we are, I had to change the palette in the colors close enough to be what I wanted to be and as you can see I've copied and pasted over the head and did some slight modifications because there was a little too much volume and the hair.
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2415ftd.png)

I think these 2 files are better to suited to use and I will help you at any point you need. 😁
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: lunar on November 09, 2018, 06:10:13 pm
OK this what I've gotten done by switching the heads to the seifer wip how is it and what should i do different?
Edit:
im looking at the animation and i messed up the head on the correct location like they are all not leveled
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: 3lric on November 09, 2018, 07:36:12 pm
Dante: why do people keep ripping me apart?
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: Valkirst on November 09, 2018, 08:40:12 pm
So I fixed The Walking frames and made some modifications on the head there are bunch of little's sprites and you're gonna need to clean that up. So you're gonna need to add the purple shirt on the facing forward walking frames . Make sure you clean up all the pixels though so that everything looks consistent.

So the reason to head was bobbing up and down is because you didn't align them properly, they all have to be on the same plane so to speak. Some were too high or to the left
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: lunar on November 10, 2018, 03:40:45 pm
ok i've did my best at the purple shirt then i need to do his little red cross and fix up his hair in some spots.
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: Valkirst on November 11, 2018, 11:51:03 pm
I got bored, heehee
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: lunar on November 11, 2018, 11:54:07 pm
Oh wow valirst that looks good I didn't expect that. But one question how would I up load/add it to the main sprite?
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: Valkirst on November 19, 2018, 07:18:24 pm
Hey Lunar here is the first version, did you ever figure out how to put it on your sprite sheet?
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: Nyzer on November 19, 2018, 07:40:51 pm
It looks a little too small, IMO. Most FFT sprites peek over the top of the frame a bit, and the necks are also longer. The hair could also maaaaybe stand to be a few pixels taller?
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: Valkirst on November 19, 2018, 08:27:27 pm
Okay, thanks. I'm gonna see what I can do. ^.^
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: Valkirst on November 19, 2018, 10:05:22 pm
Thanks for the advice Nyzer you were right, on closer inspection It was actually very small. I used the proportions of Beowulf as a comparison so I think I got it right, but any more critique is welcomed.
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: 3lric on November 19, 2018, 11:16:45 pm
Quote from: Nyzer on November 19, 2018, 07:40:51 pm
It looks a little too small, IMO. Most FFT sprites peek over the top of the frame a bit, and the necks are also longer. The hair could also maaaaybe stand to be a few pixels taller?


I was about to post the same thing
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: Nyzer on November 19, 2018, 11:31:48 pm
Height's definitely looking better, but now it looks a bit too thin. And the ear's definitely too small.

Eyes look a little too short, but given that he's glaring that might be passable. Still may want to consider another pixel or two of height on 'em though.
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: Valkirst on November 20, 2018, 12:45:09 am
OK, so I went ahead and made it wider. I just straight up took the ear off of Beowulf I counted the number of pixels for the eyes and it's right on average compared to a lot of other portraits (4x4 pixels) I looked at on the reference sheet. The thinner face actually has 2 more pixels in width than Beowulf, but lemme know what you guys think.
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: Valkirst on November 25, 2018, 10:37:56 pm
Lemme try again. Hmmm eyes look a little small...
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: lunar on November 27, 2018, 07:27:17 am
Yes. I found out how to add the face to the sprite sheet. I think your Right the eyes look small now. The eyes in the one that to did before look fine to me.
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: Valkirst on December 01, 2018, 07:52:21 pm
Ok my doods, voila! lol
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: lunar on December 12, 2018, 11:58:07 am
It looks great I like it.
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: Valkirst on December 14, 2018, 10:10:31 pm
Sigh... lol
So this is a combination of all of these.
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: 3lric on December 15, 2018, 07:26:24 pm
Quote from: Valkirst on November 11, 2018, 11:51:03 pm
I got bored, heehee


Perhaps it breaks the cohesion a bit with vanilla ports, but i prefer the overall size of the face in this version along with the expression. Its not quite as cleaned up as your later versions but the general look of it is good.
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: lunar on January 02, 2019, 11:44:48 pm
I agree.
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: Valkirst on September 03, 2019, 06:01:26 pm
Since you said you were gonna come back to this.
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: lunar on September 04, 2019, 11:14:27 am
it looks nice and it looks nice fresh
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: lunar on September 04, 2019, 11:46:49 am
ok so ive added the cross to him and i just need to add the portrait and maybe fix up somethings but i think he looks good
Title: Re: Making seifer from ff8. Need tips and tricks to know what to do.
Post by: Soh on April 08, 2022, 11:51:20 am
i like it, i hope one day it will be finish