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3rd FFT AI Tourney!

Started by Argg0, August 14, 2008, 11:30:57 am

Argg0

August 14, 2008, 11:30:57 am Last Edit: August 29, 2008, 04:51:06 pm by Argg0
What would be the best Team under this rules?

So, I've been wondering... What would be the best team under the rules that follows (mostly based on 2450 JP - by LHMG)?

1-) Team consisting of 4 generic human characters on level 38, all controled by AI, either Save Fadding Life or Run Like a Rabbit. Stats will come from http://www.geocities.com/zouf300/charts.html.
2-) Brave ranging from 40 to 70, total brave on the team must be 220.
3-) Faith ranging from 40 to 70, total faith on the team must be 240.
4-) Each unit has 2450 JP to spend in various abilities. As in FFT, each unit cannot spend points toward an ability before filling Job level requirements for the prerequisite jobs. For example, a character could not buy speed break without allocating 200 JP to squire (to make knight accessible). They might choose to spend 150 on Heal, and leave 50 extra in squire, but they need to allocate the 200. Units are not required to spend the entire 2450.
5-) Only one unit on a team can buy any individual ability. So two units could have the Punch Art ability set but only one could have purchased Earth Slash. Innates do not count for that, so you can have a Chemist and a Knight with Throw Item.
6-) Banned Abilities: Zodiac, Level, Exp (both from Calc), All Throw abilities except Balls and Shuriken, Elixir.
7-) Equipments: No doubles, so you can't use two Power Sleeves in different units. Everything to Checkpoint 10 (after Zalmo 1). As in here: http://project-yvalice.wikispaces.com/Tact_Equip_Check
8-) Throw and Item have unlimited stock. Auto Potion will always be potion (yes, it is worthless this way).

Since I know this board, I know that it won't be solved with conversation alone. So, I'll be recording the battles.

For a setup to be eliminated, it will have to lose twice to another setup.

Each setup must come with a map. So, if you want your setup "home" map to Mandalia, it will be. You must also tell which team you want to be, team 1 or team 2.

They will face each other on both maps, and if a tie happens they will face on a random map.

If you think you know a good setup, mail me at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ean5usNy7G0
Round 2, Thieves Fort: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNP7_WwkQ-M
Fuhfuhfresh vs Dol:
Round 1, Fovoham: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei-TPB8l3Nw
Round 2, Lenalia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqLpdDS6rtk
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FFMaster

August 15, 2008, 08:20:27 pm #1 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by FFMaster
I'm quite interested in this, but first a few questions:
1) With Draw Out, do I get an unlimited supply of katanas?
2) I'm assuming that katanas that aren't obtainable yet cannot be used but can you clarify the rules on draw out a bit more?
3) Can my team decide to have lower brave or faith values than the ones posted?
4) Can the AI be swapped mid-battle?
5) Can I change my R/S/M and secondary abilities on my team between battles? By that I mean, I can't change my JP allocation, but I can change abilities already learned. Example: I have a knight with Arrow Guard, but after battle 1, my opponent doesn't have any archers. For the second battle, I change my knights Arrow Guard to Weapon Guard(which was learned during team creation) to better suit the situation.
6) Can I change equips in between battles(similar to Q5)?
7) What's the deadline for sending in the teams?

As I said at the start, I'm very interested, so assume that I will have a team sent in by the deadline(if others are also interested of course).
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Argg0

August 16, 2008, 03:29:13 pm #2 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Argg0
1) With Draw Out, do I get an unlimited supply of katanas?
R: Unlimited amount.

2) I'm assuming that katanas that aren't obtainable yet cannot be used but can you clarify the rules on draw out a bit more?
R: Yep, DO is limited by the shop, so, the highest DO you can use is Heaven's Cloud.

3) Can my team decide to have lower brave or faith values than the ones posted?
R: Nope, your team must have that total Faith and Brave. That's so that mages don't get so gimped against a all 40 Fa enemies.

4) Can the AI be swapped mid-battle?
R: Nope, AI will be the same for all tourney. Save Fadding Life or Run Like a Rabbit.

5) Can I change my R/S/M and secondary abilities on my team between battles? By that I mean, I can't change my JP allocation, but I can change abilities already learned. Example: I have a knight with Arrow Guard, but after battle 1, my opponent doesn't have any archers. For the second battle, I change my knights Arrow Guard to Weapon Guard(which was learned during team creation) to better suit the situation.
R: Nope, teams aren't allowed to change anything thru the tourney.

6) Can I change equips in between battles(similar to Q5)?
R: Same as above.

7) What's the deadline for sending in the teams?
R: No deadline yet, since we don't have many teams so far (only 2 =/)

Argg0

August 18, 2008, 03:55:36 am #3 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Argg0
Does anyone even have interest on this?

Just let me know so I can know how many people are getting in...

FFMaster

August 19, 2008, 12:27:34 am #4 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by FFMaster
Yeah I'll probably be in, I'm just working out the flaws in my setup and playtesting it a bit. Also I'm working out a home battlefield. One more question though:

For the home battlefield, can I choose one of the tutorial fields? Or does it have to be one of the random battles? I'm trying a field with lots of corridors and obstacles.
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Argg0

August 19, 2008, 12:54:38 am #5 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Argg0
All maps that can be choosen by Debug mod are acceptable.

Giving the number will help a lot too.

Argg0

August 23, 2008, 09:03:57 am #6 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Argg0
I guess this will be a one row only constest...

Argg0

August 23, 2008, 08:10:17 pm #7 Last Edit: August 23, 2008, 10:47:51 pm by Argg0
Since things are going slow, I decided to change things a bit.

One team will stay until defeated, so, FFF vs Dol, when one win twice, another challeger comes to face the winner, and so on.

Edit: btw, Videos on the first topic.

SentinalBlade

August 23, 2008, 10:36:22 pm #8 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by SentinalBlade
Argg, if i honestly had more time, id definatly, and i mean definatly, make up a team, but between the formula editing i just discovered, and learning more about the ASM behind them, its rather hard...to be involved in the outside community of the chatroom and my disassembler.

I will look forward to watching the videos though, so i can relax and enjoy a video of things i have enjoyed so much in the past <3

Skip Sandwich

August 23, 2008, 11:33:36 pm #9 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Skip Sandwich
is this being held under vannilla tactics or 1.3 rules?
"Dave?  Are you there?"
"Yeah.  I can't get you through the cell now."
"You have to talk through the bratwurst from now on. I'm sorry. I didn't know it would do that."
http://www.johndiesattheend.com

FFMaster

August 24, 2008, 05:43:12 am #10 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by FFMaster
Vanilla I believe. That example knight has Speed Break.
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Tersius

August 25, 2008, 03:45:32 pm #11 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Tersius
Quote from: "Argg0"All maps that can be choosen by Debug mod are acceptable.

Sorry if this is partially off topic.  How do you access debug mode in WoTL?

Dol

August 26, 2008, 06:04:43 am #12 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Dol
Well I got my ass beat.  I wish there was a "stop lining up like retards" AI setting...

Argg0

August 26, 2008, 07:34:16 pm #13 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Argg0
3rd Video is up, check first post.

Skip Sandwich

August 27, 2008, 10:40:33 pm #14 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Skip Sandwich
darbit, I knew I should have taught my summoner Float
"Dave?  Are you there?"
"Yeah.  I can't get you through the cell now."
"You have to talk through the bratwurst from now on. I'm sorry. I didn't know it would do that."
http://www.johndiesattheend.com

Argg0

August 29, 2008, 02:33:41 pm #15 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Argg0
And... the forth video is up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqLpdDS6rtk

There is only one more player on the list... unless someone else sends a team, I don't know what to do...

Skip Sandwich

August 29, 2008, 02:57:59 pm #16 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Skip Sandwich
If only my monk was more aggressive, and my summoner actually cast haste once in a while
"Dave?  Are you there?"
"Yeah.  I can't get you through the cell now."
"You have to talk through the bratwurst from now on. I'm sorry. I didn't know it would do that."
http://www.johndiesattheend.com

Cheetah

August 30, 2008, 02:47:07 am #17 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Cheetah
Ah good you are announcing stuff here, you should put the score sheet too. These videos are pretty fun.
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Skip Sandwich

August 30, 2008, 02:50:16 pm #18 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Skip Sandwich
maybe next do two matches between me and Dol
"Dave?  Are you there?"
"Yeah.  I can't get you through the cell now."
"You have to talk through the bratwurst from now on. I'm sorry. I didn't know it would do that."
http://www.johndiesattheend.com

Cheetah

August 30, 2008, 06:27:05 pm #19 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Cheetah
Quote from: "Skip Sandwich"maybe next do two matches between me and Dol

Agreed, till new challengers arrive.

Where can I find a list of how much JP it takes to open up the different level of a particular job?
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