Holy Knight: Agrias
Fencer: Algus
Sorceress: Tietra
Strategist: Bolmna
War General: Blansch
Calculator: Reis
Ninjamage?: Rafa
Ninjamage?: Malak
Assassin: Lust
Divine Knight: Meliadoul
General: Instructor?
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Any questions or ideas about these? lemme know. Agrias is on the list because she wont be joining you this time
What about clentienne's sorceror?
i listed the ones that have changed as far as availability to the player or if the job never existed, Kletian is still enemy only (but dont worry, he will put up a GOOD fight when you face him)
Yay, could you give him more backstory as well...he was one of my favorite characters.
Hey, Zozma, when I get my sprite done, could I be the general/instictor? Since my sprite is based off Zalbag, it could pass for a general. But, since I'm going to make three more variations on my sprite you could use one of those for his first chapter appearence... Is he only going to show up on chapter 1?
I asked Srekciv about his portraits, about that spot already actually, yes he will be your opponent at Ft zeakden. instead of a petty randomly generated squire.
i asked him about it already and he seems to be okay with either letting me use one of these, or creating a portrait of similar quality for me. i might create a sprite myself to go with the portrait too. I really like the left portrait for this character, but i want to be absolutely sure hes cool with me using it first.
So once we get Agrias and Meliadoul they'll just have generic classes?
You do not get them. Agrias replaces Ovelia's role after warjilis trade city.
Zalbag will be the "holy knight" of the group.
Meliadoul dies in her brothers place. Izlude will be the "Divine knight' of the group.
Ahhh...
I see.
PS: The portraits look great.
yeah, poor mel... especially since in my patch formula 2E (mighty sword skills) is ASM hacked so that it will hit monsters and unequipped humans. only ones who can dodge it are ppl with maintinance
on top of that u dont get Orlandu, so it makes mighty sword more useful
incredibly useful
okay so the "instructor"s name will be Vicks
I was also working on the girl knight but i suppose ill just leave her default knight. i just cant get this hairdo right on the diagnol
shit thats awesome
(http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/files/monica4_217.png)
looks good
deffo one of ur best so far IMO
so i guess Lieutenant Monica and Vicks are a temporary item. or something
Let the fringe cover her eyes. It'll be quirky and give her character.
Whoa. That is definitely one of your best, Zozma. Also what role will she play? It would be a bit strange to have a custom sprite in only one scene.
I was thinking, i am already customizing Vicks the hokuten lieutenant, why not customize the female Lieutenant as well. She doesn't have to be cut from the story just because you don't see her again in chapter 1
True, her existence lends room to remember Vicks by, unlike Algus in the normal PSX version where he is never mentioned again, good thought.
If she is the same rank as Vicks who has partial sword sets, perhaps she could be given alternate versions. Plus the special fist skill we discussed.
edit: Does this look a little better?
Her head appears to be kind of flat in that one. Maybe that will be less noticeable if the two highlight pixels are taken from the back of her head.
perhaps so.
Great looking sprite, where did you get those arms? The second example of the diagonal looks great. You were right that the first one needed work, but I think you fixed it.
You should think about just having a thread where you post all the graphics stuff you are working on for this project Zozma. Though maybe I just say that because I like looking at your sprites more than anything else...
hehe, maybe ill show all the sprites that will be seen in the patch
so anyway: the ????? below im open to suggestions.
Monica (last name???)
Age (?????)
Job: Valkyrie
Skillset: ?????
Triple Thrust[New] Damage up to 3 enemies in a strait line.
Shockwave [New] Weakder Damage than above range 6
Crush Beat
Thunder Soul
Gigaflare
Secondary: Magic
Curaja
Wall
Arise
Esuna
Dispel
Holy
Haste
Slow
Stop
Aspil
Sleep
Firaga
Thundaga
Blizzaga
Flare
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Vicks (lastname????)
Age: (???)
Job: Dualist
Skillset: Swordplay
Split Punch
Crush Punch
Blastar Punch
Hellcry Punch
Crush Beat
Blansch (lastname???)
Age (???)
Job: War General
Skillset: Allswordskill
Bolmna (lastname???)
Age (???)
Job: Strategist
Skillset: ????? talk skill
Lust (lastname? not needed?)
Age (???)
Job: Assassin
Skillset: Use Hand
Tietra Hyral [Chapter 1]
Age: 15
Job: Sorceress
Skillset: Sorcery
Gravity
Gravira
Graviga
Gravija
Bio
Bioga
Biora
Bioja
Darkness
Quasar
Tietra Hyral [Chapter 4]
Age: 19 ish?
Job: Sorceress
Skillset: Sorcery
Gravity
Gravira
Graviga
Gravija
Bio
Biora
Bioga
Bioja
Darkness
Quasar
Osmosis
Your fix to the diagonal view made her hair perfect. :3 I love how natural Monica and Vicks look palette-wise and in terms of overall design.
I'm curious about your use of Lust. I never read the Manga, but in the anime her hand power were all hardening, projectiles and extension.
here she is simply as the other two assassins are, demons. because i cannot make her function as the "Ultimate Lance" (id have to be able to make a human use an SP2 file for that and i don't think its possible. the closet id be able to get is if i were to make her defense animation look like claws.
so basically shes another pretty face for the time being.
Monica Altari
Vicks Pelsoric
Blansch Almsy
Bolmna Tir
Lust Kirso
Lust doesn't need a last name,Celia and Lede didn't have last names,and neither did Lust from FMA
Yes but last names make them seem more human.
Celia and Lede where ultima demons after all.
Then again if Lust is a demon then all in all screw the last name.
did you get those last names from anywhere in particular? i agree lust probably doesn't need a last name. the last names arent bad, i think id be more inclined to bump almsy out of the last name for blansch and use the kirso one for him
I think I read somewhere that his last name is Almsy not sure though it just seemed familiar.
Though I could be wrong mind you.
shit that monica sprite is new, i like that zozma
i think i read it, now that DP mentions it...check the chornicles, you might be able to flag something out of there.
if that is indeed true then i will stick with Almsy. does that mean the others names are the same?
I would make Bolmna and Blansch early 50s. Cid and Balbanes were kind of the old regime and these two are kind of the slightly fresher next generation. An I think it is mentioned somewhere that Cid and Balbanes are both about 60. The ones that were more in charge right at the end of the 50 year war.
sounds like its all falling into place
Quote from: "Zozma"did you get those last names from anywhere in particular? i agree lust probably doesn't need a last name. the last names arent bad, i think id be more inclined to bump almsy out of the last name for blansch and use the kirso one for him
Nowhere public if that's what you're asking. The surnames are part of a family of surnames I'm using for ~my novel~
I do think they work out quite nicely. it would look odd to leave them without last names in the character bios so i very much appreciate it.
http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article ... 1_640w.jpg (http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/954/954948/final-fantasy-crystal-chronicles-echoes-of-time-20090218100450351_640w.jpg)
Is it just me or does that character in the top right look like one of your designs Zozma haha.
lol! i see that
Edit: Okay so for Blansch and Bolmna's last names...
LD made an interesting point that at that time (chpater 3 start event) the 3 other characters with known first names where going by their last names here. So we are going to assume that Blansch and Bolmna could be last names.
any GOOD first name ideas? XD
I'm with LD on this one. I always assumed that was their last names.
If those were/are/are going to be last names I had some thoughts for first names.
Googling 'Bolmna' eventually found me on an census form for somewhere in Ireland so I thought maybe an Irish name. I sifted through all the normal sounding ones and thought maybe one of these would be good.
Ciaran
Oisin
Killian
As for Blansch I couldn't help but think of 'Blanche' which has both German and French roots. After looking at some german names I decided to skip it because I couldn't stop laughing at the combination of names and their meanings. So here're some french ones.
Armand
Aleron
Dartagnan
..and of course going to one of my other suggestions from Chat, we already have a Vicks so how about naming one of them Wedge? And as a throwback to the fair game in Chrono Trigger name the other Pierre. Specifically, Wedge Bolmna and Pierre Blansch.
Wedge Bolmna and Biggs Blansch...........DO IT!
LOL. I love it and hate it all at once.
XD theres already a Vicks in the game which was apparently a mistranslation from Biggs. so thats your biggs right there.
as far as wedge, probably a generic at most
I say they need to be minor characters in the story at least.
This is Biggs and Wedge we are talking about!
ive got sooooo many characters. if i add more i fear ill water down the story
True enough.
plus, i wouldn't consider using "biggs" at all because of Vicks
At least change Vicks to Biggs then and maybe add Wedge to that first battle unless he is already there.
beh i never liked biggs, its another one of those mistranslations that i prefer to keep that way, like Izlude, or Algus
.........Whatever you prefer it is your patch.
Also what did they change Izlude to again. Isilud I think. If so then you are right.
new enemy!
Grandma Ople
Job: Octogramma
Ramza find's his long lost grandmother old lady Ruglia!
What? You must be kidding.
haha, yeah im sorry, its been a really boring work day.. i had to get a reaction somewhere. but it would be pretty funny to see an old lady trying to kill you on this game.
Well I'm glad I could oblige haha. The mystery of the wives/mistresses of Balbanes.
lol what would an old lady even attack you with anyway? some fresh baked muffins?
her cane,duh
she cant use that! shes too old, without that constantly used as a crutch she would fall and break her hip!
she has machine guns mounted on her walker then!
ivalice doesnt have walkers...
Quote from: "Zozma"lol what would an old lady even attack you with anyway? some fresh baked muffins?
She would spam mimic darovon with stories of her youth.
lol, yeah, one thats unblockable even if u have a sleep immunity
Steal Heart! didin't you know she used to be a dancer?
oh my. shes a bit ... saggy now... eh....
...but experienced
The older the berry, the sweeter the juice.
Ok can we get serious
Fuckin' shit
k so which is better portrait A (left) or newportrait B (right)
i added a sheen to both since shes supposed to be super blonde
also i updated Tamera a bit, she hopefully this is less "angry". i still dont know how i would fit her in to the story.... (ignore the shoulders right now lol, stupid shoulders i think ill give her a scarf!)
I prefer the one on the right.
Quote from: "tithin"I prefer the one on the right.
I prefer the one on the left. And Tamera's much improved!
ill let you in on something too, there might be a way to get Monica in the future plans. but she wont be able to change jobs. (check page 2 of this topic to see her skills)
She's a monster (figuratively AND literally)!
sort of i guess lol. she will be equipped with all crystal gear, spear, shield, helmet, armor, gauntlets.
some of those don't exist so they will be created. but you wont be able to remove the gear or break/steal it. and she is immune to "treasure"
also, shes equipped with both physical and magical stuff so shes good all around.
Golgaros-2
anyone interested in helping to make a portrait for one-eyed golgaros? lol... he got a little banged up after zeakden afterall
his eye patch is supposed to be made out of a shred of his old death corps cape, but i just cant seem to do the faces that well anymore.
The eye patch is looking great. I'm digging the hair as well.
Yeah he sure is one sexy motherfucker.
Well, I made the eye patch, but I used Wiegraf's face as the template. I doubt it's what you're looking for, but whatever--I can fix it up if you so desire.
That looks pretty good though. Good start.
The funny part about the sprite system is that anyone with an eyepatch is gonna have it switching sides of the face.
it's not that big of a deal
Quote from: "Samuraiblackbelt"it's not that big of a deal
I didn't say it was a problem, I was referring to it being fricken hilarious.
lol, just like clouds arms, the system just doesn't work well with it. but keeping it in mind it really doesnt bother me much. but anyway, its better to attempt using his actual face portrait as the template because its gotta be obviously golgaros.
Do you have a readied version of his portrait, without the eye patch of course?
there it is
Thanks man, I tried my hand at it with that portrait. I'm not sure how I feel about it, but anyone else can use this as a jumping off point, if interested.
now also, he needs to have some scarring from the zeakden explosion
Also his expression should be a bit more solemn and his portrait to fit his new clothes (poor Golagros...) I'd think that Zeakden would have shaken him as much as the rest of the main cast.
ill be doing a head transfer to that shrine knight shoulder set after the face is all good to go i guess
A scar, eh? I put it on the right cheek, although the size and location of the scar make his face look a little busy, the way I did it. I'll fix it as necessary.
And LD (or anyone else), how would you suggest I make his face look more solemn? Is there another existing character that has the expression you're thinking of?
Hmm, perhaps Chapter 2 Ramza?
perhaps a scar will make it too busy. now for the eye patch, i was thinking making it more unique would be cool, as in it being made of the tattered fabric that his old death corps cape was made out of. and drape down that side of his face like a bandana with the knot tied just above that eye's socket.
that would eliminate the need to add more scars to the face by coverying just a little bit more of the skin with the cloth...
Wow, that sounds cool, but tough...I mean, the bandanna shouldn't be a problem, but I doubt I could make a good knot/eye patch. I'll see what I can do--if I end up drawing a blank, I'll just post him with a bandanna or with a bandanna and a normal eye patch.
Quote from: "Zozma"perhaps a scar will make it too busy. now for the eye patch, i was thinking making it more unique would be cool, as in it being made of the tattered fabric that his old death corps cape was made out of. and drape down that side of his face like a bandana with the knot tied just above that eye's socket.
that would eliminate the need to add more scars to the face by coverying just a little bit more of the skin with the cloth...
Very Good, the bandanna or something similiar could show he's hiding some nasty things from the zeakden incident
Quote from: "GeneralStrife"Very Good, the bandanna or something similiar could show he's hiding some nasty things from the zeakden incident
Yeah, I added the bandanna last night, and it automatically made him look a lot more war-torn--kinda reminiscent of a veteran. I'll see if I can make the knot look legit.
EDIT: I attached the work-in-progress. I think I might have changed his remaining facial expression to echo Ch. 2 Ramza's, but I can't really remember...
Yeah he looks like a an old war veteran very good
The final one really gives him more of a tragic look. That battle will probably be the one that characterizes Golagros best, that poor soul...
I kinda dislike the scar style I chose for him now...do you guys think it looks appropriate? Or should I give him a series of small diagonal slashes below the eyepatch? Maybe I should extend the scar?
Wait, is Zozma even interested in this portrait anymore?
Hmm, below the Eyepatch? Sounds like a good plan, just to see what it looks like.
Alrighty.
Take a gander.
(http://ffhacktics.com/forum/files/eyepatch_2_387.png)
I think if you made the one in the middle so that the cloth hangs down and covers a lot more of the face it would look better
Updating the monica portrait
Top Old
Bottom New
eyepatches aren't really worn like that. The strap goes straight across the brow or if its angled like yours it goes under the ear
what im really looking for tho is the bandana with the knot over that eye and the extra cloth covering that eye along with the rest of that side of the face.
the cloth was made from the old deathcorps cape
Quote from: "Asmo X"eyepatches aren't really worn like that. The strap goes straight across the brow or if its angled like yours it goes under the ear
Ah, good to know--I'd rather try getting the knot thing to work, but so far I've kinda failed at that.
(http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/Samuraiblackbelt/52.jpg)
maybe something that covers the face like this (can you tell I didn't spend much time on this?)
maybe make the edges look tattered, and it would remove the need for a scar
too much face cover really.
for an idea the sprite preview is on the previous page if you scroll up.
more like if you were to tie a bandanna but have whats usually in the back, where the knot is, placed over that eye so that the remaining cloth hangs over that side of the face.
something more like this but im just not doing something right i think.
either im making it stick out too much from the rest of the picture or something...
I think i got it, this is about what i had in mind.
see how you can still see parts of the scar underneath from either side
Ah very nice! You missed some shading on the neck, it seems, but the eye-patch looks phenomenal. I think I misunderstood what you were asking for, but either way it looks like this is pretty much complete.
Oh and at one point, you gotta show that scar off without the bandanna. It'd be quite shocking. Heheh.
Whoa...This is amazing!! I think it looks perfect! The scar under the tied knot bandana...Awesome!!
Also, I've read all the posts and Monica will work like monster? In terms of items and etc...I mean her skills are...wow. Haha ^^
EDIT: Yeah. SHOW THE SCARS!!! Hehe
Quote from: "Zozma"I think i got it, this is about what i had in mind.
see how you can still see parts of the scar underneath from either side
Is it suposed to look like his eye socket was obliterated? I like it. Morbid, but realistic.
pretty much yeah DP, if you think about the FT Zeakden explosion hes lucky to still have his head at all. also no telling how many scars hes hiding under his armor and clothes.
and Jimmy,
Yeah it was planned for Monica to be set up not to be able to change jobs but in the end she would have really nice equipment with innate maintinance. this might change however, and she could be set up to change jobs later.. well see. It more depends on if Zodiac is able to make weapon type specific requirements for certain skills because she has 2 skills that are "spear skills"
I thought so. I really do like it though. Now if only we could do a dub and have him cough like Greivous....kidding.
im almost done with his sprite too, im just too lazy to put on the rest of the head frames right now
I see. Alright Sir Zozma ^^
But I love to see her in action. Her skills seems...Wow. Haha
and monica was going to appear first at Barius hill, but i need that space for Melodia's first appearance so monica will be pushed back to at least chapter 3.