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Ramza, a sprite change for Mercenaries?

Started by Archael, November 16, 2008, 09:16:00 pm

Kuraudo Sutoraifu

February 11, 2009, 11:35:55 pm #60 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Kuraudo Sutoraifu
Quote from: "boomkick"There could also be a turtleneck kinda feature that only covers up his mouth, not his nose or anything.

/giggle

But in all seriousness, interesting ideas.  I was definitely considering the furry mantle that Gaffy has, but I don't want to do anything to Ramza head, specifically any type of helmet or face covering.  Especially a helmet since hair is one of the only distinguishing marks between most character.  I'm trying Gaff's armor with different color schemes right now, and I'm only coming up with few good ones.  Mainly green and green-blue.

LastingDawn

February 11, 2009, 11:42:10 pm #61 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
Hmm, Ramza with Gaff's feather mantle would be awesome! That is quite an idea right there! I'm one to believe that Gafgarion's armor is basically rusted, instead of Bronzed, (with bits of ?gold? here and there) it fits his character's personality in the normal game, kind of.
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PX_Timefordeath

February 12, 2009, 12:14:06 am #62 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by PX_Timefordeath
How about a Ramza scar on his cheek???? It'll make him look more like a mercenary.

boomkick

February 12, 2009, 01:37:30 am #63 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by boomkick
If he did cover his nose he would be ninja.

LastingDawn

February 12, 2009, 01:39:58 am #64 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
I don't like the idea of a scar, after all, Gafgarion doesn't have a scar, and he's still a fine mercenary, also scars are a bit cliche.
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sadness can be turned to delight.
A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
the dead brought back to life."

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Kuraudo Sutoraifu

February 13, 2009, 08:58:33 pm #65 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Kuraudo Sutoraifu
Possible Chapter 4 Ramza below.

Gave him back his ponytail since Gaffy has one.  The sprite is mostly Gaff's armor but with different pauldrons and a recolor.  I also removed Ramza's cowlick on the front of his hair.

Archael

February 13, 2009, 09:00:51 pm #66 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Archael
wow

the avatar is amazing

colors on the sprite don't fit together that well IMO (the teal + black make it look a little futuristic  )


and perhaps less shoulder bulkage

but otherwise

thats fuckign awesome gj

Kuraudo Sutoraifu

February 13, 2009, 09:06:46 pm #67 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Kuraudo Sutoraifu
Thanks!

I'll try some more recolors.  Red/Black and Black/Black work well, but both make him look evil which is not my goal.  I'll keep switching it up though.

Archael

February 13, 2009, 09:08:14 pm #68 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Archael
Quote from: "Kuraudo Sutoraifu"Thanks!

I'll try some more recolors.  Red/Black and Black/Black work well, but both make him look evil which is not my goal.  I'll keep switching it up though.

I like the idea on having him look a little more battle-ready (with that heavier armor)

I wanna know what LD thinks

LastingDawn

February 14, 2009, 12:34:51 am #69 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
I agree, the sprite is... a bit odd looking as Voldemort has pointed out.  Red/Black sounds good, what of Gold/Black? Or any such? The avatar though is great! Only thing missing is a "disillusioned" look on Ramza's face. I love the obvious comparison now though to Gafgarion's armor. Also the ponytail was a stroke of genuis! That gives him so much more character. I'd say you understand Ramza's role prettyt well. I think a recolor would look great.
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sadness can be turned to delight.
A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
the dead brought back to life."

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Cheetah

February 14, 2009, 02:43:35 am #70 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Cheetah
Give Ramza a helmet there and change the colors and it would make a good gladiator sprite. Though I'm not sure how it looks for a Ramza costume, makes him look too much like a huge hulking mammoth of a man.
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PX_Timefordeath

February 14, 2009, 11:24:47 am #71 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by PX_Timefordeath
Wow... f--king awesome avatar.

Archael

February 14, 2009, 11:58:53 am #72 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Archael
yeah maybe tone down the bulk a little bit and recolor

the rest is perfect IMO

and shame on you Cheetah

thinking of turning this into a Gladiator sprite

you inhuman corruptor

LastingDawn

February 14, 2009, 11:59:12 am #73 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
Quote from: "Cheetah"Give Ramza a helmet there and change the colors and it would make a good gladiator sprite. Though I'm not sure how it looks for a Ramza costume, makes him look too much like a huge hulking mammoth of a man.


Yes, a helmet's not quite advisable for anything dealing with Ramza (only notable things main character's have are faces anyhow. Perhaps it is a bit on the "buff" side, though...

Though I'm pretty sure that's because it's blue (blue on Ramza immediately invokes images of his final relatively spandex outfit...) so I think that might be the reason for such, once it is colored more like armor, it sounds like it would fit well.
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sadness can be turned to delight.
A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
the dead brought back to life."

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dwib

February 14, 2009, 12:56:05 pm #74 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by dwib
the gloves look like mittens... maybe use ramza's vanilla ch 4 arms?
not a big fan of the loin cloth lookin thing either. it gives him a barbarian feel.
i love this idea though.

LastingDawn

February 14, 2009, 01:51:39 pm #75 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
The loin cloth is what Gafgarion is basically wearing, but a larger version of what Gafgarion has. As it stands it's quite a defining feature in the new outfit. A helmet would basically be against Ramza's character, especially any helmet close to Gafgarion's one of a kind Hades Helm.
"Moment's anger can revert to joy,
sadness can be turned to delight.
A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
the dead brought back to life."

Art of War

Beta & Gretchen Forever!!!!

Cheetah

February 14, 2009, 03:20:40 pm #76 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Cheetah
Oh I wasn't talking about giving Ramza a helmet, that would be terrible. I was just saying that if the sprite had a helmet, it would make a good gladiator. Though like Voldemort says, I don't see a need for such a job.

Are you really wanting a complete sprite change for Ramza LD? I thought the whole point of Mercenaries was for it to take place between chapters 1 & 2, and that Ramza would just be in his chapter 2 armor for the majority of the plot. Though many of these suggestions for Ramza are kind of cool, I just don't want the spirit of the patch to be lost.
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Asmo X

February 14, 2009, 10:17:09 pm #77 Last Edit: February 18, 2009, 10:20:53 pm by Asmo X
Still pushing this as a possible Ramza design:



LD thinks it looks like a soldier but that's what mercenaries in the real world tend to look like.




dwib

February 14, 2009, 10:18:25 pm #78 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by dwib
boo

i like where it is heading now

Kuraudo Sutoraifu

February 15, 2009, 11:52:07 pm #79 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Kuraudo Sutoraifu


Here are some color mock-ups.  I personally like the fourth one, but I'm interested in hearing what others like.

And btw, Gaffy's mittens are staying on the sprite.  And buttpants are a must.