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General => Archives => Topic started by: Curu on December 24, 2008, 10:23:09 pm

Title: Greetings
Post by: Curu on December 24, 2008, 10:23:09 pm
Hello. Long time lurker of the site, while I occasionally prod at hacking I am no pro at it, I am however much much better at spriting. Which brings me to the point of this topic.

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/HunterPort.png)


 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/HunterPort2.png)

 About a week ago a friend of mine and I were scribbling in Open Canvas and she suddenly got inspired and did this up:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/hunter.jpg
 Well I filed it away in my copious and horribly unorganized hard-drive until just yesterday where I thought "OH HEY! I could totally pixel that." And the result, half an hour after the idea, was the portrait you see earlier in this post. Well I thought "Well it's not bad." and then I got the vile idea to make a monster out of it by gutting a pre-existing monster in FFT (Apanda maybe.) and such began my project. I will soon begin making sprites for it to use in game and as I do so I will update this topic.

 In all honesty the portrait needs some polishing but i'll touch at that later.

TL;DR: SUCK IT UP AND READ IT.
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Post by: Zozma on December 24, 2008, 10:27:20 pm
yesss more spriters!

there currently arent many who attempt monster sprites here.. in fact, one has never been submitted officially to the main downloads page.

btw your avatar looks nice.... and gives me an idea , a hunter/sniper job hehe..
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Post by: Curu on December 24, 2008, 10:31:40 pm
Yes yes, I know, I'm crazy.
The only thing that's holding me back is i'm not sure of my limitations for monster sprites.

 Speaking of the avatar, it was also spurned by the friend I spoke of, it's not scratch like the hunter but it's a moderate edit, I was just lazy. A HURR.
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Post by: Archael on December 24, 2008, 10:48:22 pm
Nice portrait man

where is that hunter character from?
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Post by: Curu on December 24, 2008, 10:58:58 pm
Hunters aren't from anything you would know of as they're an origional concept from the friend I mentioned. They're "Elite" soldiers from a northern government, they're humans wearing a very advanced armor that's powered by things called living cores, contact with these cores is hazardous so only the "Strong" survive, however at the cost of mutation and reliance on the armor. The armor supplies them with enhanced strength and speed and comes with a nifty "Predator-Camo" and the handy ability to regenerate injuries.
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Post by: Dormin Jake on December 24, 2008, 11:54:06 pm
When I was in elementary school ten, fifteen years ago, I used to daydream up things similar to your hunter when I was on the playground.  I always tried to draw the things I imagined, but they never really turned out the way I wanted, and they looked like they were drawn by an eight-year-old (because they were).  Between your friend's concept and your spriting, you are fulfilling a childhood dream of mine, and I love you for it.

+1 to this topic.

Also, yes.  We definitely definitely need more monster spriters!
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Post by: Cheetah on December 25, 2008, 02:00:59 am
The portraits are looking good, I'm looking forward to what you produce.
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Post by: Curu on December 25, 2008, 03:23:06 am
Preliminary sprite version 1:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Huntsprit1.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Huntsprit2.png)

 Sort of ended up more zodiac monster sized really. I can work with that.

Edit: Now in transparent background flavor.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Huntsprit3.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Huntsprit4.png)
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Post by: Zozma on December 25, 2008, 03:43:49 am
that looks pretty sweet... perhaps youd be able to give the unfinished "iron giant" its walking animations....
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Post by: Curu on December 25, 2008, 03:46:39 am
I'd have to see them before I can give you an honest answer to that.
It's 3:46 AM! Do you know where YOUR sleep schedule is? I don't, can I have yours?
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Post by: Zozma on December 25, 2008, 06:55:33 am
this is the iron giant topic

http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtop ... 08&start=0 (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=808&start=0)

also.. i am a day sleeper its 7 am now...
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 25, 2008, 08:22:12 am
Lolz I sleep during the day when I sleep at all ^_^
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Post by: Jacob31593 on December 25, 2008, 10:48:40 am
i love it, it looks creepy without being cheesy (though it does kind of remind me of a mix between alien and predator), if we somehow did find out how to make an FFT MMO i would hope you would sprite for the people making it
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Post by: Cheetah on December 25, 2008, 01:07:48 pm
That is definitely sweet. It doesn't really fit the FFT style, but that isn't what you were going for. I'm excited to see the walking animation.
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Post by: Zozma on December 25, 2008, 04:04:21 pm
that creature would make a pretty sweet dd monster :D

well if you really sprited this its amzing i must say...

perhaps you could make an fft style portrait for the iron giant (you could look at pictures of those monsters from other ff games.

hehe i keep asking for stuff but, a monster spriter? thats pretty sweet
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Post by: Jacob31593 on December 25, 2008, 05:09:17 pm
Quote from: "Curu"Preliminary sprite version 1:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Huntsprit3.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Huntsprit4.png)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/mctfew.jpg)
XD
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Post by: Curu on December 25, 2008, 07:45:22 pm
One hour, 5 lindt Lindor Truffles, and a constant stream of blind gaurdian later:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/IronGiant1.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/IronGiant2.png)

And I churn this piece of crap out. ARE YOU HAPPY, ZOZMA?
LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO! IT'S TERRIBLE!
Anyway, it's slightly off center in some spots which bugs me but I can't be bothered to fix it right now.
Worker 8 palette used.
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Post by: gojoe on December 25, 2008, 08:00:14 pm
i nearly shit myself after seeing this, good job
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Post by: Zozma on December 25, 2008, 08:29:10 pm
omg out of nowhere, lol sweet! so fast too

are you gonna make human sprites too?

and this hunter.... id love to see it finished. id definately use that in my patch if you make it available. if its animated as well as it looks
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Post by: Curu on December 25, 2008, 08:34:09 pm
Humans are E-Z-MODE.
If I want to make them I can.
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Post by: Zozma on December 25, 2008, 08:38:08 pm
you seem to have super depth perception and everything.. perhaps you could touch up one of my sprites? XD
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Post by: Curu on December 25, 2008, 08:40:50 pm
Helps to be able to see value in color well, fore-shortening, 2 and 3 point perspective, GOLDEN RATIO. All that fun crap that you blow 30,000 dollars on a fancy art school to learn.
AND MAYBE I CAN.
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Post by: Zozma on December 25, 2008, 08:46:04 pm
here on the sprites downloads page youll see a sprite called "Misty (saga frontier 2)"

http://www.ffhacktics.com/psx/sprites.php (http://www.ffhacktics.com/psx/sprites.php)

allthough she looks good i think there are places that could be vastly improved. the portrait for one. shes supposed to be a gorgeous redhead.
anyway she is an important character in my patch....

also my shading on the sprite itself could be off a bit. i dont know if you've ever played saga frontier two but she was probably the best looking female character on that game.
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Post by: Curu on December 25, 2008, 09:02:10 pm
I will see what I can do but don't expect it to be prompt service. Though I will point out what I see as problems before I touch it and defile the poor thing. Your choice of "Red" is too "bright" That doesn't mean it's over saturated it means you've got too much red and blue and not enough green which is making it a striking shade of pink. In all honesty you're better off using FFT's actual palette over using your own and mixing the colors together just a tad. The one you're using now doesn't have enough contrast between all the shades and it's making it come out all pillowy.

 Secondly, you're trying too hard to soften the edges which causes a loss in definition, making her hair look like cotton candy. Don't be so concerned with making all the edges soft.

 Lastly, where is her collar bone?

 Oh, and I played both SaGa Frontier 1 and 2, really only like #1 however.
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Post by: CidIII on December 25, 2008, 09:09:44 pm
If you finished Iron Giant I would have butsex with you.

Your sprites are very good.  :D
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 25, 2008, 09:17:36 pm
That is so disturbing Cid and now I know where your avatar came from.
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Post by: CidIII on December 25, 2008, 09:18:20 pm
lol
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Post by: Curu on December 25, 2008, 09:21:38 pm
I think I agree with Paul, that is not a very motivating reward.
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 25, 2008, 09:23:45 pm
I didn't think so, it's more of a reason to never touch sprites again.

Also Curu is there a sprite to go with your avatar or is it solo?
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Post by: Curu on December 25, 2008, 09:26:49 pm
Nae, it was originally a request for a token to be used in Maptool using FFT style. If I felt like it I could make a sprite.
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Post by: Zozma on December 25, 2008, 09:31:15 pm
good points , the thought had occured to me on the softness.

(yeah saga frontier 1 was great, 2 wasnt all that good, but i did like a few characters enough to want sprites for them. [Misty and adult Gustave])
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 25, 2008, 09:45:41 pm
I'm trying to convert my avatar to FFT style but the problem is the straps on the jacket impede a bit.
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Post by: Jacob31593 on December 25, 2008, 09:52:03 pm
your good, i would make a request but it seems your pretty busy right now :p
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Post by: Curu on December 25, 2008, 09:55:25 pm
Here's your problem!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/alldone.png)
All done.

I keed.
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 25, 2008, 09:56:16 pm
Lol I did the same thing as joke for my brothers portrait.
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Post by: Zozma on December 25, 2008, 11:44:44 pm
is this an improvement?
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Post by: CidIII on December 26, 2008, 12:10:18 am
Her boobs look bigger.
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Post by: Zozma on December 26, 2008, 12:29:40 am
i changed the angle but i messed up the eyes in that preview
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Post by: philsov on December 26, 2008, 12:51:15 am
WELCOME TO FFH, WHERE ALL YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE
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Post by: Curu on December 26, 2008, 01:27:04 am
Mediating arguments when you are mute is very difficult.
Anyway, now that I'm not in the middle of an incredibly stupid argument...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Quickmisty.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/quickmisty2.png)

 Super quick and not that great hair upgrade. Had to stare at a blurry stilled image on you-tube.
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Post by: Zozma on December 26, 2008, 01:44:06 am
dude, you are amazingly good at this!

im gonna turn the hair back red, but the style is great!
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Post by: Curu on December 26, 2008, 01:47:32 am
That is red.
Though I suppose you want more of a PINK red rather than an ORANGE red.
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Post by: Zozma on December 26, 2008, 01:50:05 am
yeah an obvious red, not a deep red tho. pinkish red was always my goal actually
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Post by: Curu on December 26, 2008, 01:57:08 am
Wait... Wait for it....

....


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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/mistymisty.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/mistymisty2.png)
Photoshorp'd
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Post by: Zozma on December 26, 2008, 02:06:18 am
now there we go, gorgeous!

(if you saw the sprite section some ppl really bombed at making decent portraits for their sprites...)

you do it as if it were nothing at all
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Post by: Curu on December 26, 2008, 02:07:56 am
It's... It's supposed to be hard?
my life is a lie!
Anyway.
Perchance you have an AIM address? That would make a conversation go more swimmingly.
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Post by: Zozma on December 26, 2008, 02:17:00 am
yes

Zozma1
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Post by: Curu on December 26, 2008, 02:22:27 am
Added and a message has been thrown through your window, tied to a brick.
If you ever want to see your family again, you will answer it.
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Post by: Cheetah on December 26, 2008, 02:56:18 am
That new portrait is definitely amazing looking. You definitely have some real spriting skills Curu. Keep the good work coming.
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 26, 2008, 11:36:07 am
Wow so now the amazing spriter are what?........Curu, Zoz, and AuraDragon.  Sweet
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Post by: Zozma on December 26, 2008, 03:56:26 pm
Curu

Lasting Dawn is making an interesting patch but they want to turn "Axes" into Claws for their new monks

im guessing you would be able to draw them quite well. would you be willing to give it a try?

http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtop ... 1&start=20 (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1551&start=20)
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Post by: CidIII on December 26, 2008, 05:04:09 pm
Holy crap! You're very good at this!

Could you give me some tips to fix this up?

*whispers* Maybe you could make a portrait for it :D  :D  *whispers*
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Post by: Zozma on December 26, 2008, 05:16:14 pm
the portrait should resemble FF4 dark knight cecil right?
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Post by: CidIII on December 26, 2008, 05:16:46 pm
Correct :D
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Post by: Curu on December 26, 2008, 05:41:25 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"Curu

Lasting Dawn is making an interesting patch but they want to turn "Axes" into Claws for their new monks

im guessing you would be able to draw them quite well. would you be willing to give it a try?

http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtop ... 1&start=20 (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1551&start=20)

 That would be a tricky widget, while yes I can make them It's a matter of getting them to animate properly.

 And replace axes? You FIENDS. You can't replace axes, they are my precious.
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Post by: Zozma on December 26, 2008, 06:09:59 pm
i wouldnt replace axes :D

ideally he wants to replace bags, but they animate differently...
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 26, 2008, 06:44:21 pm
So animate the claws like axes but put the in the bags slot.
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Post by: Zozma on December 26, 2008, 06:44:57 pm
we dont know how to change the animation type yet tho... but thats the idea
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 26, 2008, 06:45:48 pm
Hmmmm maybe Zodiac or Sentinel will be able to make a hack for you.
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Post by: Skip Sandwich on December 26, 2008, 07:31:54 pm
easy thing to do would be to simply REMOVE the bag animations, leaving just the base punching animation that goes on underneath the bag animation frames. it might not be ideal for claw weapons, but would work perfectly for gauntlet/cestus type weapons.
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Post by: Zozma on December 26, 2008, 08:00:03 pm
ye could make the claws thrusting in appearance...
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Post by: Curu on December 26, 2008, 08:56:14 pm
A step in the right direction would be getting my hands on the animation frames.
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 26, 2008, 09:02:42 pm
I'm with Zozma brass knuckle style claws are more of a punch that a slash.
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Post by: Zozma on December 26, 2008, 09:09:41 pm
this is the exported bmp

its WEP.SPR in battle.bin
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Post by: Curu on December 26, 2008, 11:02:58 pm
I think Final Fantasy 4 is a pretty cool guy.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Cecil1.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Cecil2.png)
He kills bombs and doesn't afraid of anything.

 There, it is done, now begone from my sight lest I have my guards remove you.
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Post by: gojoe on December 26, 2008, 11:05:55 pm
ok i had too much to eat. this time i did shit myself in awe
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Post by: CidIII on December 26, 2008, 11:07:32 pm
Holy christ!

Are you a robot?

Regardless, you ARE amazing !
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Post by: Archael on December 26, 2008, 11:07:43 pm
Quote from: "Curu"I think Final Fantasy 4 is a pretty cool guy.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Cecil1.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Cecil2.png)
He kills bombs and doesn't afraid of anything.

 There, it is done, now begone from my sight lest I have my guards remove you.

I think ur a pretty cool guy

lets have sex
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Post by: Zozma on December 26, 2008, 11:07:49 pm
omg! hah thats wicked
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Post by: CidIII on December 26, 2008, 11:09:35 pm
I already asked she doesn't like butt secks
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Post by: Zozma on December 26, 2008, 11:11:09 pm
lol thats not a motivator haha
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Post by: Curu on December 26, 2008, 11:15:24 pm
Quote from: "CidIII"Holy christ!

Are you a robot?

Regardless, you ARE amazing !

I MIGHT be.
But no, what I really am is a dark secret.
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Post by: CidIII on December 26, 2008, 11:23:39 pm
Lol.

Now, all we need is a sprite that is the same caliber as that portrait. According to Voldemort mine sux
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Post by: Curu on December 27, 2008, 12:23:41 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Cecilbat1.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Cecilbat2.png)
No sir, Mr.officer, I sure don't know how fast I was goin'
Can you let me off with a warnin'?
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Post by: CidIII on December 27, 2008, 12:25:21 am
Nice mam'. Nice.
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Post by: Archael on December 27, 2008, 12:26:46 am
what in the fuck

WHO ARE YOU!!!
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Post by: CidIII on December 27, 2008, 12:31:41 am
She is a god sent here to make us all feel inferior.

Keep up the good work on the sprites though :D
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Post by: Curu on December 27, 2008, 12:35:39 am
I AM VENGEANCE! I AM THE NIGHT! I! AM! Curu.
A 21 year old Caucasian homosapien female of south Georgian decent.

Also, your forum does not believe homosapien is a real word.
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Post by: Vanya on December 27, 2008, 12:36:18 am
Holy crap that looks awesome!!!! Freakin' amazing!! o.O You must be a demon-cyborg-alien!! ^_^
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Post by: Archael on December 27, 2008, 12:38:04 am
Quote from: "Curu"I AM VENGEANCE! I AM THE NIGHT! I! AM! Curu.
A 21 year old Caucasian homosapien female of south Georgian decent.

Also, your forum does not believe homosapien is a real word.




A/S/L?

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Post by: CidIII on December 27, 2008, 12:40:02 am
I've been addressing you as a 'he' this entire time I'm sorry  :oops:

I shall go back and edit all my posts, in order not to anger the sprite goddess!
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Post by: Curu on December 27, 2008, 12:40:21 am
That's a silly question when you just quoted the answer.
You card.

Quote from: "CidIII"I've been addressing you as a 'he' this entire time I'm sorry  :oops:

I shall go back and edit all my posts, in order not to anger the sprite goddess!

Don't particularly care what I am addressed as, I am horribly used to it in a sad sad way.
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Post by: Vanya on December 27, 2008, 12:51:28 am
Quote from: "Curu"I AM VENGEANCE! I AM THE NIGHT! I! AM! Curu.
A 21 year old Caucasian homosapien female of south Georgian decent.

Really? My fiance is a descendant of Pyotr Ivanovich Bagration! And she is an artist, too! ^_^
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Post by: Curu on December 27, 2008, 12:55:29 am
Quote from: "Vanya"
Quote from: "Curu"I AM VENGEANCE! I AM THE NIGHT! I! AM! Curu.
A 21 year old Caucasian homosapien female of south Georgian decent.

Really? My fiance is a descendant of Pyotr Ivanovich Bagration! And she is an artist, too! ^_^

American Georgia, not Russia Georgia. Even though it's technically not Russian anymore.
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Post by: Vanya on December 27, 2008, 12:58:27 am
Meh, close enough! ^_^
Either way you're very talented!
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Post by: Suih on December 27, 2008, 01:00:01 am
Are you a Photoshopper by any chance?
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Post by: Curu on December 27, 2008, 01:02:23 am
I OWN photoshop but I use MS-Paint when pixeling.
Photoshop I use for actual art or when I need a custom palette, or need to stick transparency in for instance.
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Post by: Suih on December 27, 2008, 01:04:07 am
So much MS Paint spriters here, it brings a tear to my eye. :D
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Post by: Curu on December 27, 2008, 01:06:51 am
I cannot tell if this is a good or bad tear.
If it's a bad tear, your sorrow is delicious.
If it's a good tear, I'm hungry.
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Post by: Suih on December 27, 2008, 01:07:43 am
It's a good tear. :O

"Your sorrow is delicious."
That's so poetic. xD
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Post by: Vanya on December 27, 2008, 01:12:35 am
Not all of us stick to MS Paint. I use NeoPaint and Paintshop mostly. On rare occasion I'll use Photoshop. But never MS Paint. ^_^
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Post by: Curu on December 27, 2008, 01:14:33 am
Quote from: "Vanya"Not all of us stick to MS Paint. I use NeoPaint and Paintshop mostly. On rare occasion I'll use Photoshop. But never MS Paint. ^_^

YOU SICKEN ME.
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Post by: Zozma on December 27, 2008, 01:16:52 am
i just use paint too. only use other stuff for changing color limits and stuff
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Post by: Vanya on December 27, 2008, 01:17:01 am
*TEARS*

Why!! =(

NeoPaint has everything MS Paint has plus lots of advanced features!!

As an extra added bonus, it isn't free so I get to pirate it!! ^_^
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Post by: Archael on December 27, 2008, 01:17:33 am
Quote from: "Curu"I cannot tell if this is a good or bad tear.
If it's a bad tear, your sorrow is delicious.
If it's a good tear, I'm hungry.


Perhaps you didn't hear me.





A/S/L?

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Post by: Suih on December 27, 2008, 01:38:55 am
Congrats, Voldemort has killed this thread. xD
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Post by: Zozma on December 27, 2008, 01:39:32 am
NOOOOO!!
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 27, 2008, 01:55:09 am
Lolz I'm of north Georgian decent.
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Post by: Archael on December 27, 2008, 02:00:13 am
Failure to comply with the mandatory A/S/L? input will result in a catastrophic failure of this system and the Matrix as you know it.






A/S/L?

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Post by: Curu on December 27, 2008, 02:16:57 am
21 AND A HALF/Female/Hiram, Georgia

ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?
ARE YOU?
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Post by: Archael on December 27, 2008, 02:45:38 am
mod delete this plz
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Post by: Archael on December 27, 2008, 03:09:19 am
Quote from: "Curu"21 AND A HALF/Female/Hiram, Georgia

ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?
ARE YOU?


(http://i39.tinypic.com/6f328p.png)

Kinda, but I already have too many women. Sorry!

Now get back on topic and keep making sprites.
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Post by: Dormin Jake on December 27, 2008, 03:21:45 am
Amazing artistry abounds here, I do declare.  Please, tell me what I can say to stroke your ego to the maximum, because that it where it belongs and I enjoy grovelling in praise of artists.

Also, got any examples of non-pixel art?  I need as many reasons as I can get to lavish enough admiration to start pushing the boundaries of creepiness, because that's just the sort of human being I am.
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Post by: Curu on December 27, 2008, 03:31:18 am
I'm'on BREAK.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/BBL.png)

Be back later with progress and new stuff.
Now get out of my office.
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Post by: Archael on December 27, 2008, 03:36:33 am
Curu you should take a look at Mercenaries Warder and Arbalist job sprite ideas

those are two which no one has even dared to tackle yet

(and effephoenix vanished without ever finishing warder)

:\
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 27, 2008, 11:52:31 am
Curu if your gonna barricade yourself in my office at least give me my rum.
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Post by: LastingDawn on December 27, 2008, 12:49:58 pm
It is true that no one has stepped up to the challenge... but... not to overload the plate, do you think you could just do a portrait of...

Don't worry about the Warder and Arbalist, someone will get to them eventually.

(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh189/koala_knight/SampleScholarDude-1.png)
Young gentleman Hedin from FFT: Mercenaries?
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 27, 2008, 12:58:50 pm
Lolz your plate is truly filling up you can keep the office I'll take a cubicle.
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Post by: Jacob31593 on December 27, 2008, 01:43:37 pm
lol no girls on internet you guys
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Post by: gojoe on December 27, 2008, 02:16:30 pm
why does arch want an interspecies relationship? you should really stick to your own wyvern kind
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Post by: Jacob31593 on December 27, 2008, 02:40:32 pm
for those of you unaware, arch is the one in the green dress
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 27, 2008, 02:53:54 pm
Yea we where aware Jacob but stop spamming this topic already.
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 27, 2008, 03:04:23 pm
Finished what?
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 27, 2008, 03:09:46 pm
Nowhere near except able yet.
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Post by: Curu on December 27, 2008, 05:05:45 pm
Quote from: "LastingDawn"It is true that no one has stepped up to the challenge... but... not to overload the plate, do you think you could just do a portrait of...

Don't worry about the Warder and Arbalist, someone will get to them eventually.

(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh189/koala_knight/SampleScholarDude-1.png)
Young gentleman Hedin from FFT: Mercenaries?

 Knowing specific details on his face and hair if any would be helpful.
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Post by: Curu on December 27, 2008, 10:26:13 pm
This one was a tricksy hobbitses.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Hedin1.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Hedin2.png)
As you can see there is 3, why? The far left one was the original version, sadly however it had far too many colors (26 I believe.), so I had to consolidate them down, thus the two next to it are the results.
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 27, 2008, 10:28:15 pm
Wow I like her, nice use of LOTR reference.
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Post by: BeoulveBlack on December 27, 2008, 10:29:12 pm
wow, i guess we get our hands on another excellent spriter...i better 'up my game' as they say
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Post by: gojoe on December 27, 2008, 11:58:54 pm
hey curu, can you make me a portrait for this?

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm294/gojoechris/fft_worker_7.png)
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Post by: Cheetah on December 28, 2008, 12:07:13 am
That portrait looks great. Definitely fits into the FFT style quite nicely. The only additional feature of the character that you might want to know is that there was an idea bouncing around of giving him glasses.
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Post by: Curu on December 28, 2008, 12:27:48 am
Quote from: "gojoe"hey curu, can you make me a portrait for this?

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm294/gojoechris/fft_worker_7.png)

Why has Ramza gutted Worker 8 and made a nest inside it?
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Post by: gojoe on December 28, 2008, 12:59:38 am
Quote from: "Curu"
Quote from: "gojoe"hey curu, can you make me a portrait for this?

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm294/gojoechris/fft_worker_7.png)

Why has Ramza gutted Worker 8 and made a nest inside it?

it was a joke i made coz i tried a few ideas for the warder sprite and arch said no to all of them and said something about worker 8 so i had the brilliant idea of melding my love of hit and miss jokes with my photoshop butchering

BTW, here's a real pic of Voldemort
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm294/gojoechris/wyvern1.jpg)
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Post by: LastingDawn on December 28, 2008, 01:36:15 am
Terrific! He doesn't look as young, or as Algus like as I had feared! Great work, Curu! Also the look on his face, is very knowing, I think it looks a bit like Balmafula's expression, really this is a great addition!
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Post by: Curu on December 28, 2008, 01:55:27 am
No problem, LD.

BONUS ROUND.
Special delivery for a "Darthpaul." Anyone here named "Darthpaul"?
No, I'll just leave this here then... Nobody steal it... I'm watching you.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Paul.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Paul2.png)
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Post by: Archael on December 28, 2008, 01:58:40 am
5*
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Post by: Zozma on December 28, 2008, 03:07:47 am
haha that one fits DP allright
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Post by: Cheetah on December 28, 2008, 03:15:00 am
Maybe now DP will stop changing his avatar all the time haha.
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 28, 2008, 11:45:35 am
Wow thank you this is better than anything I have come up with before your are like our spriting goddess.

@Cheetah yea this works for me changing avatar soon.
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Post by: CidIII on December 28, 2008, 12:27:03 pm
Holy crap, you're awesome Curu.

I <3 U.  :wink:
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 28, 2008, 01:08:17 pm
Indeed I didn't even have to ask and I got an awesome avatar.
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Post by: gojoe on December 28, 2008, 01:29:41 pm
if i may throw another helping of request on your plate, i need a new avatar....badly, with hair kinda like the generic male kinghts only dark brown and a beard that follows the chinline kinda like zozoma's but without the points at the mouth. and blue eyes. anything i may have left out is up for your creative discretion
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 28, 2008, 01:35:16 pm
A request from gojoe.........wow.

We haven't seen ya around man where have ya been?
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Post by: Kyousukeee on December 28, 2008, 01:52:33 pm
Hey nice work with the avatars Curu xD
I'm looking forward to see more nice stuff ^^
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Post by: Kokojo on December 28, 2008, 02:30:05 pm
Definitively, Curu is awesome.

Make me an avatar, please ^^?
Galagros-based, with free tweaks limitations  ?
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Post by: Jacob31593 on December 28, 2008, 02:38:15 pm
dam it im the only one who hasnt made a request yet, ok ok i'll have an order of one portrait depicting Raziel from Legacy of Kain and a small fry, thanks
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Post by: CidIII on December 28, 2008, 02:45:39 pm
Making avatar requests is lame. Make them yourself, I'd rather see usable sprites. Or Sprite Jack them like I did.

So should I put the Dark Cecil portrait with my dark knight sprite sheet or not cause it sux?
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 28, 2008, 03:57:15 pm
Quote from: "Jacob31593"dam it im the only one who hasnt made a request yet, ok ok i'll have an order of one portrait depicting Raziel from Legacy of Kain and a small fry, thanks

I didn't make a request either I just mentioned that I was working on an avatar and boom Christmas came a little late. :D
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Post by: Curu on December 28, 2008, 05:15:21 pm
SUDDENLY....
PEOPLE.

 Ahem, anyway, sorry to burst this rapidly expanding catastrophe impending bubble but requests are on hold for more important matters. For now focus is going on assisting folks like Lasting Dawn with their own patches.

 So, NO SOUP FOR YOU.
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Post by: CidIII on December 28, 2008, 05:17:41 pm
Told yah, nubs.
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 28, 2008, 05:18:58 pm
Nice use of Seinfeld reference.  And seriously guys make a Curu request thread that she could ignore for crying out loud.
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Post by: Srekciv on December 28, 2008, 06:28:45 pm
Hi Curu, your stuff rocks! Do you do any professional/commercial sprite work?

that Cecil looks exceptionally badass!
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Post by: Curu on December 28, 2008, 06:38:48 pm
Quote from: "Srekciv"Hi Curu, your stuff rocks! Do you do any professional/commercial sprite work?

that Cecil looks exceptionally badass!

 No, I do not. I'm not good enough for that.
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 28, 2008, 06:41:32 pm
Other than when people help me I'm not one to shower greatness but you are a Square quality spriter, which brings our total to 5 It think.
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Post by: Soahd on December 29, 2008, 03:49:59 pm
Awsome work!I cant wait to see your future sprite.
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Post by: Zozma on December 29, 2008, 10:06:39 pm
how's that project going for you curu? having to make a huge arm on one side?
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Post by: Curu on January 11, 2009, 12:30:30 am
WISE FWOM YOO GWAVE.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Narili1.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Narili2.png)
Yeup.
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Post by: CidIII on January 11, 2009, 12:47:31 am
HOLY!

*bows down to the sprite goddess*

This is for the Iron Giant right? It is quite good  :D
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Post by: Cheetah on January 11, 2009, 02:50:44 am
That is mighty freaking sweet. Is this for your original project, Iron Giant, or something else? Makes for a good Golem I think.
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Post by: Zozma on January 11, 2009, 09:59:50 am
the iron giant doesn't have a face like that at all, its something else
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Post by: Zalge on January 11, 2009, 10:35:20 am
Supa Fly
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Post by: Vanya on January 11, 2009, 12:17:57 pm
Very nice. ^_^
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Post by: gojoe on January 11, 2009, 01:11:24 pm
since i've seen curu's stuff i haven't stopped jizzing in my pants, its actually kinda hard to even move
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Post by: Curu on January 11, 2009, 03:40:53 pm
The Iron Giant portrait has already been done.
This is something else, as Cheetah put it, in relation to my original project.
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Post by: BloodyBlade on January 19, 2009, 01:56:15 am
Who the SHELL is this Curu character?

A 21/White/Female/Georgia girl coming into FFHacktics and posting WICKED SICK sprites....

Give this girl a torch. For now on, I am calling you Queen Curu. Alright?

Not gonna droll over you like some of these guys around here. Welcome to FFH m8! Perhaps you can make me a sprite whenever you have time.
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Post by: CidIII on January 19, 2009, 05:48:48 am
Nope, sorry BloodyBlade, she's already making me 14 custom sprites.
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Post by: Angel on January 19, 2009, 07:17:16 am
Quote from: "BloodyBlade"Not gonna droll over you like some of these guys around here.
It would appear that you already have. :p
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 19, 2009, 09:37:12 am
Quite.
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Post by: Zalge on January 19, 2009, 11:26:50 am
I concur.
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Post by: BloodyBlade on January 19, 2009, 12:48:11 pm
Quote from: "superjupi"
Quote from: "BloodyBlade"Not gonna droll over you like some of these guys around here.
It would appear that you already have. :p

OBJECTION!
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on January 19, 2009, 01:34:54 pm
Holy crap...  I leave this place for six months and some hotshot spriter comes in and makes everyone poo in thier pants.  And proceeds to make me poo in my pants.

Don't knock the "professional spriter" comment, Curu.  Your sprites are in the general area of wicked awesome with a cherry on top.  I thought Zoz and I were good, but you take spriting crown.  If Square knew about you, you'd probably get a job straight away.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to change my underpants.
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Post by: BloodyBlade on January 19, 2009, 02:51:22 pm
Damn, is it that good? Got you guys shitting on yourself?

Its ight... Could been better
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 19, 2009, 03:07:07 pm
Kuraudo is back and changing his pants, nice.
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Post by: BloodyBlade on January 19, 2009, 03:23:00 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"Kuraudo is back and changing his pants, nice.

He gonna have to because apparently this Curu human is wearing the pants now. But meh, you must be a gift from God to these users Curu.

I am not buying it.
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Post by: Curu on January 19, 2009, 03:37:18 pm
Are you supposed to be buying something?
I was not aware I was selling a product.
The populace of this forum have little reason to think I'm just so awesome, I'm decent at best, if they want something to mess themselves over they should go look at sites like Pixeljoint. Granted I'm not posting my normal works but I have no reason to do so here.
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Post by: BloodyBlade on January 19, 2009, 03:43:32 pm
QuoteI'm decent at best

I stop reading right here. These users dont know what decent is.
I'll admit, you got skill but needs more work.
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Post by: Curu on January 19, 2009, 03:54:51 pm
You're welcome to point out what you dislike and why, as well as suggesting how you think a piece can be improved upon. Something that tends to only happen within a network of my friends who are better artists than I am. As I told Superjupi I was a chef before I was an artist but I do look to find ways to improve when I can.
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Post by: Archael on January 19, 2009, 04:01:28 pm
Quote from: "Curu"You're welcome to point out what you dislike and why, as well as suggesting how you think a piece can be improved upon. Something that tends to only happen within a network of my friends who are better artists than I am. As I told Superjupi I was a chef before I was an artist but I do look to find ways to improve when I can.

You never answer my Spam Bait topics about you so you already failed a long time ago.

Love,

-Arch
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Post by: CidIII on January 19, 2009, 04:03:45 pm
Yeah, we've been waiting for two weeks for you to answer us. :(
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Post by: Srekciv on January 19, 2009, 04:04:23 pm
That last portrait you posted reminds me of the golem boss in Vagrant Story.

No one at pixeljoint is creating FFT style stuff as sweet as you can. So your awesome in my book.
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Post by: Curu on January 19, 2009, 04:04:45 pm
I-
I'm sorry, Voldemort. I'll try harder next time. NO.
NO DON'T HANG UP THE PHONE.
NO, PLEASE.
.....
Just another cold night for me Disgaea 3 then.
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Post by: Archael on January 19, 2009, 04:11:21 pm
Quote from: "Curu"I-
I'm sorry, Voldemort. I'll try harder next time. NO.
NO DON'T HANG UP THE PHONE.
NO, PLEASE.
.....
Just another cold night for me Disgaea 3 then.

*hangs up the phone*


*calls EA*

*busy*

*calls Rain4H*
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 19, 2009, 04:16:37 pm
*Picks up phone*

*Cranks calls Curu*
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Post by: Cheetah on January 19, 2009, 04:17:15 pm
Kuraudo! How you been man? You need to get caught up on all the happenings, especially the Chronicles of Kanbabrif.

Curu what is your Pixeljoint account name? I would be interested to see more of your work.
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Post by: Curu on January 19, 2009, 04:23:57 pm
I do not have a Pixeljoint account, I rarely ever display my work outside of people in project circles. I suppose I could potentially put a few up here but I'd have to dig them out of my ever cluttered HD.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 19, 2009, 04:24:59 pm
Glad I'm not the only one with a cluttered HD. :D
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Post by: BloodyBlade on January 19, 2009, 04:51:03 pm
lulz cluttered HD.
Cant be organize these days huh?
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Post by: Curu on January 19, 2009, 05:02:00 pm
Organization is for suckers.
Anyway...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Phantoon-1.png)
Has an animated version but I cannot post it. Based off Super Metroid's Phatoon for a fan game a friend wants to make.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/TokenExamples-1.png)
Tokens to be used in another game, they're rushed because they were never meant to be perfect, just to get the point across.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/fdffsdsdfg.png)
Snippit of another boss I was sharing with someone, I cannot post the completed creature.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Dragon-1.png)
2 years-ish old? Something like that. Done for a friend as a present. I am horribly un-pleased with it now, I never bothered to give the "Fire" illumination on the things flesh among several other problems.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Barreldog2.jpg)
Accidentally uploaded as a BMP, so photofail jpeg'd it. 2 ish years old as well, never gonna finish obviously. Was working on it on an oekaki.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/windclawexample.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/windclawexample2.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Narghsdjd.png)
3 or so years old. WAAAAY BACK WHEN I used to frequent a forum and SOMEONE (calling themselves Windclaw) was doing Megaman Zero edits. Well he posted that bland looking short sprite you see in the second image and asked for pointers, and other things. I whipped the larger sprite up, posted it ,explained what I did, how he could do it too and learn a lot in the process... WELL HE EXPLODED INTO A FIT OF E-RAGE and frankly I ignored him from there. There is a lot wrong with the sprite anyway, especially the muscle structure, it's overall too squished, the pose is too stiff and the arm muscles are just ALL wrong.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Riopng.png)
Present to a friend in their art style, nothing special.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/ect2.png)
Little metroid smilies I made 5? 6-ish years ago, I CHEATED on these for the transparent effect in the center, I must now burn myself in ritual repentance.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/cicsopng.png)
 Made the large sprite, decided it was too big to be practical, made a smaller sprite, decided I hated both, dropped them into a pit. 4 or 5 yars ago, so I used A LOOOT of references for it.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/BackDropenhance.png)
 First EVER attempt at doing sprites 100% from scratch. I was proud of myself.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/NamiWhiteMageSheetshowcase.png)
I hate them now but they're where I truly began.
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Post by: Srekciv on January 19, 2009, 05:07:30 pm
Wooo cool beans! I especially love the metroid smiles lol
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Post by: Zozma on January 19, 2009, 05:09:26 pm
hey curu, i can think of no one better to do portraits, U know agrias original portrait? is there any way you can make her look more glamerous

like have some pearls in her hair, and the blue on her outfit white.

see she finds out later in my patch that shes the "princess" so i need a portrait reflecting that. the hair should stay close to the same as her sprite would only be recolored... you interested? XD probably too busy but still hehe..
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Post by: BloodyBlade on January 19, 2009, 05:49:00 pm
QuoteOrganization is for suckers.

One of the reasons this world is full of shit
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Post by: Dormin Jake on January 20, 2009, 03:04:36 am
Quote from: "BloodyBlade"One of the reasons this world is full of shit
What's with all the ho-hum animosity?  Turn frowns upside downs!

 :)

It is fun.
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Post by: Angel on January 20, 2009, 06:12:23 am
Quote from: "Curu"[humble words]
As artists, we are our own worst critics. We see the flaws buried deep within our works that all but the trained eye will gloss over*, so the humility tends to come naturally. You have a good eye for color matching and balance, and the ability to accurately emulate another artist's style with original work is a nice skill to have, which you can pull off convincingly.

I do remain curious as to the degree of your culinary talent, however, after boasting that you are a better chef than artist. :p

* Unless the work really is of mediocre caliber, as is the case with my own pixel art. </hypocrisy>
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 20, 2009, 10:51:23 am
My thoughts exactly the worst part about being the artist is the fact that you drew it and you know where all of the flaws are.
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Post by: Cheetah on January 20, 2009, 01:13:27 pm
Cool stuff. The metroid smilies are awesome lol.
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Post by: BloodyBlade on January 20, 2009, 02:02:13 pm
Anyway Curu, when you get finished with working with the other users on this forum I got just one sprite I want you to make if possible.

Seeing how there are no Black people in this game, (fuckin racist bastards) could you make me a black sprite?
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on January 20, 2009, 02:27:16 pm
I'm not sure the game is racist.  If you made a game with a psuedo-feudal Japan flare, you probably wouldn't be asking where all the Latino characters were.  So for the pseudo-medieval European game, you probably wouldn't place too many black people in there either; they could be there, but few and far between.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 20, 2009, 03:04:12 pm
Indeed the timing of this game is before races really started to mix with each other.
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Post by: Curu on January 20, 2009, 09:32:50 pm
Quote from: "BloodyBlade"Anyway Curu, when you get finished with working with the other users on this forum I got just one sprite I want you to make if possible.

Seeing how there are no Black people in this game, (fuckin racist bastards) could you make me a black sprite?

 I can do it but I need more info than just what race they are.
However yes, it will have to wait until I get other things out of the way.
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Post by: BloodyBlade on January 20, 2009, 10:23:18 pm
Quote from: "Curu"
Quote from: "BloodyBlade"Anyway Curu, when you get finished with working with the other users on this forum I got just one sprite I want you to make if possible.

Seeing how there are no Black people in this game, (fuckin racist bastards) could you make me a black sprite?

 I can do it but I need more info than just what race they are.
However yes, it will have to wait until I get other things out of the way.

Ok, Ms. Curu. Sprite this character whenever you have the time:
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r97/bcourtney_photos/The%20Boondocks/000-101-02-riley-3_4-front.jpg)[/img]
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Post by: Zalge on January 20, 2009, 10:30:06 pm
Quote from: "BloodyBlade"
Quote from: "Curu"
Quote from: "BloodyBlade"Anyway Curu, when you get finished with working with the other users on this forum I got just one sprite I want you to make if possible.

Seeing how there are no Black people in this game, (fuckin racist bastards) could you make me a black sprite?

 I can do it but I need more info than just what race they are.
However yes, it will have to wait until I get other things out of the way.

Ok, Ms. Curu. Sprite this character whenever you have the time:
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r97/bcourtney_photos/The%20Boondocks/000-101-02-riley-3_4-front.jpg)[/img]
Nooooooz! Joo must sprite me! I provide picture =D
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 20, 2009, 10:31:51 pm
BB is that a Boondocks character?
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Post by: BloodyBlade on January 20, 2009, 10:34:51 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"BB is that a Boondocks character?

Damn Right! Riley Freeman!
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Post by: LastingDawn on January 20, 2009, 10:35:40 pm
Riley, haha! Though I think Tom or Granddad would be a much more awesome sprite. But as for there not being any black people in the game... what of Bolmna, Cecil? He's black and he's very high ranking in the bueracracy, his title in the PSP version is Baron Boromna, or something similar.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 20, 2009, 10:43:34 pm
I thought Bolmna was black I just didn't want to sound retarded.
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Post by: Zalge on January 20, 2009, 10:45:49 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"I thought Bolmna was black I just didn't want to sound retarded.
NONONO!!! HES PUERTO RICAN! xD
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Post by: BloodyBlade on January 20, 2009, 11:04:03 pm
He isnt playable in the PSX version. IIRC he only has like wat, 3 lines?
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Post by: Zozma on January 20, 2009, 11:04:21 pm
bolmna? too pale
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Post by: Bastard Poetry on January 20, 2009, 11:28:55 pm
Quote from: "BloodyBlade"He isnt playable in the PSX version. IIRC he only has like wat, 3 lines?

Yeah, but those three lines make him greater than most characters in FFT.
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Post by: BloodyBlade on January 20, 2009, 11:38:37 pm
Since when a black guy just talks and receives no action? Thats some BS right there. But he didnt die right? You know some games are... "Black guy goes down first."
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Post by: Zozma on January 21, 2009, 01:17:45 am
look, i found bolmna's event color palette, and based on that and the small portion of sprite he actually has normally, he would be half at most. based on the portrait? thats a diff story

ill probably make his skin tone darker for my patch tho
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Post by: Zozma on January 24, 2009, 04:46:31 am
u know wut, if Curu makes a good riley portrait ill work on the sprite :P
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Post by: Archael on January 24, 2009, 10:53:24 am
Quote from: "Zozma"u know wut, if Curu makes a good riley portrait ill work on the sprite :P

TBH work on sprites anyway

because:

I've yet to see a sprite from curu

only portraits

I mean, yes her portraits are good, but an actual sprite is not only harder, it takes longer, and is way more tedious

the actual sprite is WAY MORE important than the portrait, however good it may look


that and Curu isn't on the forum much, not compared to the rest of us

so just continue spriting normally loeleul
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Post by: MagiTek v1.0 on January 24, 2009, 11:50:28 am
You idiots all sound pretty racist right now, truth is during the time that's supposed to be taking place there were -NO- black people, Africans had yet to be taken over to Europe, so they aren't being racist by putting none in, furthermore as my old Lierature teacher always said "it's only racist if that's what you make of it", which is generally true especially in this conversation.
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Post by: Zalge on January 24, 2009, 12:13:16 pm
Quote from: "MagiTek"You idiots all sound pretty racist right now, truth is during the time that's supposed to be taking place there were -NO- black people, Africans had yet to be taken over to Europe, so they aren't being racist by putting none in, furthermore as my old Lierature teacher always said "it's only racist if that's what you make of it", which is generally true especially in this conversation.
Magi, you need to stop calling everyone idiots in every other post =P
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 24, 2009, 12:36:09 pm
I agree with MagiTek and I don't mind the flinging of the word idiot as it is just a word you know.
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Post by: Archael on January 24, 2009, 01:19:29 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"I agree with MagiTek and I don't mind the flinging of the word idiot as it is just a word you know.

yeah he is in the true correct here
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Post by: CidIII on January 24, 2009, 01:41:44 pm
Quote from: "MagiTek"You idiots all sound pretty racist right now, truth is during the time that's supposed to be taking place there were -NO- black people, Africans had yet to be taken over to Europe, so they aren't being racist by putting none in, furthermore as my old Lierature teacher always said "it's only racist if that's what you make of it", which is generally true especially in this conversation.

That's probably the dumbest thing I've read on here yet. School FTW
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 24, 2009, 02:56:56 pm
What about it was dumb?

EDIT I understand Ivalice and Europe are different, but Ivalice is very clearly a medieval world.
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Post by: CidIII on January 24, 2009, 03:08:28 pm
Yes, of course there were -NO- black people in Europe, yeah sure.

I'm not sure when this game takes place, I'm guessing somewhere around the 'Hundred Years War', I know it takes place in Ivalice, but it is obviously based off of an actual event.

Even then there is evidence they were being brought to Europe to work as laborers. The Ottoman Empire had African slaves.

That's not what makes the post dumb, though, it's because she is suggesting that Africans lacked the capability of walking from Egypt/Middle East into Europe. Obviously, there were black people in Europe.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 24, 2009, 03:15:43 pm
On a side note I never thought about the tie in to the actual hundred year war.

Which would mean Ivalice would be the french as they lost. (If my facts are correct)

As for black people of course they were there but there was probably not a significant amount.

Of course the ottomans would have African slaves they were right next to Egypt. (Just stating not trying to start anything)
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Post by: Dormin Jake on January 24, 2009, 05:08:50 pm
Ivalice =/ Europe, period.  Based off of, sure.  But if creative license can result in summoned monsters, magic, moogles, and Lucavi demons, then surely some slight pigmentation differences are not out of the question.  By the same token, there should be no strict requirement that such changes actually show up.  I love diversity, but one shouldn't be upset by its absence in a Japanese RPG, seeing as how the Japanese often seem to create some semblance of ethnic homogeny in their games.  

Why all the debate though?  If adding more racial diversity to our sprites will increase the amount of spriting going on around here, we should do that!  That's what this board is for, no?  The more options, the more creation, the richer this community's output.  Who cares if Riley Freeman doesn't quite make sense in FFT's setting, it would be fucking sweet to have him anyway.  Though I'd prefer Huey.
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Post by: Archael on January 24, 2009, 06:06:39 pm
Everyone who is pointing out the time period / region that FFT is based on is correct.

That is why you also see the majority of them with light hair, and not dark hair color.

It's not because the game is racist, or the devs are racist. I assure you the Japanese have little reason to want to include racism in FFT, and I am pretty sure that is not the reason why the majority of FFT characters are Caucasian.

If you have a problem with this, then your racism-detector is probably on way higher alert than it should be, perhaps because of insecurity / racial identity issues you yourself might be having.


GO TO JAIL.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 24, 2009, 06:57:45 pm
^Win and that is final and also Dormin makes a sound point.
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Post by: CidIII on January 24, 2009, 08:24:47 pm
Ivalice does pretty much equal Europe.

I'm not saying anyone is racist here, but saying that Europe had no black people is retarded.

I for one could care less if there were any black people in FFT.
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Post by: Zozma on January 25, 2009, 04:07:15 am
I like to have a variety in my game. And i'll add in what i think is cool.
I don't care what was in europe or squares version of ivalice.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 25, 2009, 07:48:07 am
I think Zozma just summed up what the general consensus should be.
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Post by: Archael on January 25, 2009, 10:22:52 am
Quote from: "CidIII"Ivalice does pretty much equal Europe.

I'm not saying anyone is racist here, but saying that Europe had no black people is retarded.

No one's saying Europe didn't have black people.


But if you make a game based on a region's time period where the vast majority of the population was Caucasian, you'll probably make most of your characters Caucasian to get the point across of what time period and place in the world you are trying to represent.

How the hell do any of you misconstrue that as racism?

I am from Puerto Rico, there's tons of black people here, as well as all the other colors you can think of.

I hate racism as much as anyone, but lately I'm seeing the "RACIST" accusation card being thrown around alot for no good or valid reason other than "because I can get away with it".

It isn't cool to randomly accuse shit / people of being racist, especially when it's obvious that racial demeaning is clearly not part of the intent (in this case, FFT Dev's intent). It's not cool, it's not funny, it's not in style, and it will not make you feel any better about any insecurities you might have for belonging to any particular race.

It just makes you look like an insecure idiot.

ProTip: FFT is not racist.
The people who are on red alert for the slightest sign of possible racism are the true racists, because their own massive insecurity concerning their race leads them to jump out and blindly attack at even the slightest chance to pull out the race card.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 25, 2009, 01:56:27 pm
Quote from: "Archale7"ProTip: FFT is not racist.
The people who are on red alert for the slightest sign of possible racism are the true racists, because their own massive insecurity concerning their race leads them to jump out and blindly attack at even the slightest chance to pull out the race card.

Finally someone who shares my point of view.
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Post by: BloodyBlade on January 25, 2009, 08:06:06 pm
Lady Curu, how goes the spriting? Update us of your work so far...
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Post by: Kenshin72 on January 26, 2009, 06:55:52 pm
WTF darthpaul? You changed your name?
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Post by: Archael on January 26, 2009, 07:31:44 pm
Quote from: "Kenshin72"WTF darthpaul? You changed your name?

you get a custom title for doing special stuff

(zodiac gives them out)
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 26, 2009, 10:01:27 pm
Yea Zodiac seems to be adamant towards me for some reason.
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Post by: BloodyBlade on January 28, 2009, 11:03:05 am
DarthPaul owns in posting!
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 28, 2009, 05:25:02 pm
How so?
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Post by: Zozma on January 28, 2009, 07:02:08 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"How so?

by doing that ^ :)
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 28, 2009, 07:18:56 pm
Oh ho touche!

So how goes the patch Zozma.
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Post by: Zozma on January 28, 2009, 07:26:50 pm
its going fine. im not working on much lately due to setting up for a house party im throwing this weekend, but ive pretty much revamped all the monsters to be similar to 1.3. (regular chocobo's with choco ball? yea u can easily get raped in battles.
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Post by: BloodyBlade on January 28, 2009, 07:55:27 pm
Where is Curu?
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Post by: Zozma on January 28, 2009, 09:44:11 pm
curu has gone into hiding1
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Post by: BloodyBlade on January 28, 2009, 11:48:34 pm
Voldemort troll her away! Damn you Voldemort. He got out of his cage. I thought I had him lock in the basement.
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Post by: Kagebunji on May 19, 2011, 11:57:27 am
I look at the topic, and see how different the forum was once. Way too much pressure on good spriters and females. Now it is very different, heh.
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Post by: LastingDawn on May 19, 2011, 01:30:30 pm
As it should be Kage. This is just a remnant of a darker time and were we more compassionate and less pushy we may never have lost this individual of great talent.
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Post by: Kagebunji on May 19, 2011, 01:51:04 pm
I know, and I like it more now too.
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Post by: Celdia on May 19, 2011, 04:02:12 pm
Should just Archive this thread. Its out of date and Kage you should know better than to necrobump something over 2 years old.
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Post by: LastingDawn on May 19, 2011, 05:28:13 pm
Eh, it's not as if he was just saying "Bump!" he was saying something of value to the conversation and the state of things as they were then and are now. As such I don't feel as if it would need archived for any reason.
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Post by: GeneralStrife on May 19, 2011, 06:59:08 pm
Quote from: LastingDawn on May 19, 2011, 05:28:13 pm
Eh, it's not as if he was just saying "Bump!" he was saying something of value to the conversation and the state of things as they were then and are now. As such I don't feel as if it would need archived for any reason.

Yeah..
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Post by: Kagebunji on May 20, 2011, 09:38:38 am
Who knows, maybe Curu will come back anyway, so locking her thread is kind of a bad move. Like LD said, I was just comparing state of the forum.
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Post by: Mando on May 20, 2011, 01:28:21 pm
I Am with celdia on this. It needs to be archived. Perhaps not locked but archived. Plus if curu did comeback we don't need a post reminding how big of asshats people can be. Let it be a fresh new start.