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Could all those healing formula affected by elementals?

Started by scbw1234, July 15, 2014, 11:26:27 am

scbw1234

Say Holy elemental Cure 1 would heal more if strengthen.Is that possible?

Glain

You'd have to ASM hack the elemental routines to modify healing.  They only modify damage, IIRC. 

This is something I've thought about hacking in, but it's also weird... would it apply to absorb/half/cancel/weak too?  That would mean that half or cancel on an element would actually be a detriment if you were healed by something of that element... (and what would happen with absorb?)

Edit: Grammar is too hard, apparently.
  • Modding version: Other/Unknown

Pride

Depends on how you would do it Glain. The Elemental Boost routine is separate from the others so you could add it in without having the absorb and the like.
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Check out my ASM thread. Who doesn't like hax?

Glain

Oh, yeah, you could definitely just edit the Strengthen routine.  I was basically just raising the point philosophically, i.e. does it make sense to do it just for Strengthen but nothing else?
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nitwit

Quote from: Glain on July 16, 2014, 12:29:55 pm
Oh, yeah, you could definitely just edit the Strengthen routine.  I was basically just raising the point philosophically, i.e. does it make sense to do it just for Strengthen but nothing else?

http://ffhacktics.com/wiki/Weapon_Element_Strengthen
This is tangential to OP's question, but how hard would it be to add the routine above to these two formulas?
http://ffhacktics.com/wiki/07_Heal_%28Weapon%29
http://ffhacktics.com/wiki/06_AbsHP_%28Weapon%29

I'm guessing that I could add it in the same way that the elemental strengthen routine is used in the Magic Gun formula.
http://ffhacktics.com/wiki/04_Magic_Gun

Do the two "Zodiac Calculation Already covered under weapon XA" comments in 07 Heal (Weapon) indicate that those four lines of code are both redundant?

In response to glain, I looked at the wiki and it seems that there are a lot of routines related to elements.

Everyone wants to do it their own way.  If all four of the elemental damage alterations are separate, then that allows everyone to do their own thing.  I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I think that this is a good thing.

I'd like a long rambling discussion on elements, but only if OP is okay with a topic hijack.

@ Glain:
Looking at the formula for 0C Heal F(MA*Y):
http://ffhacktics.com/wiki/0C_Heal_F%28MA*Y%29

I see that it already calls elemental strengthen
http://ffhacktics.com/wiki/Elemental_Strengthen

but I don't understand how this routine which it calls
http://ffhacktics.com/wiki/Magical_XA_*_YA

doesn't allow elemental strengthen to occur.