Making Human Units behave like Special Monsters.

[Timbo]

In order to have a 4th type of chocobo I need to swap the Chocobo and the Dragon monster families around. I could use Razele's the first X monsters are mountable hack to make Chocobo's mountable again, but that would essentially force me to make every monster except for the Hydra family mountable. This is not acceptable.

Here is my question:

Can I re-apply Razele's Job X is mountable hack multiple times to make each of my swapped chocobo's mountable again?

[Philogosten]

Why isn't all monsters mountable acceptable? I never have seen the AI mount any creature so I don't understand the problem.

[Choto]

I don't think it's as simple as that. I haven't looked at the code but it likely just makes an exception somewhere for that certain class. Meaning if you reapply it over and over you'd just be rewriting the same code and only the last one that is applied would stick. I don't understand why you would need to swap the dragons and chocobos though. You should be able to just choose the chocobo monster graphic/palette in FFTPatcher, and then use Razele's hack to make that job mountable. I could be mistaken though since I never actually tried doing that.

[Timbo]

I just figured out a solution. I'll make my special chocobo replace the holy dragon job. I'll use the japanese tools to swith the purple dragon formation with the chocobo one and bam, mountable chocobo!

[3lric]

Why isn't all monsters mountable acceptable? I never have seen the AI mount any creature so I don't understand the problem.

It looks like shit, because the CYOKO Sprite Type is built for this. MON Type is not.
Not to mention, mountable Bull Demon? Yeah... No

[Timbo]

My idea doesn't work. I was running off of the assumption that the Formation sprites were using full images instead of palletes. I was wrong and I'm screwed. Does anybody know how to make a human type unit behave like a monster type unit (Not be able to use equipment/rsms/job wheel) Because honestly, I'm out of ideas?

[Eternal]

For the record, mounting Behemoths and Dragons is hilarious.

[Timbo]

I think it's awesome. Could you imagine the faces of all the doucebags on chocobos when you roll up on 'em on your Behemoth.

[RavenOfRazgriz]

Here's what you do:

Add your Chocobo Sprite to the slot where the Chocobo Sprite normally is in ShiShi, as I assume you gave the Chocobo Sprite a 4th palette for your 4th Chocobo.

Move the Archaic Demon to the Job slot below the Ultima Demon.

Make your Chocobo Job in the slot the Archaic Demon used to be in.  Give it the settings M. Portrait 86, M. Palette 3, M. Graphic 1.

Replace Archaic Demon's Formation Screen data with the data you want to use.

Use hack to make new Job mountable.

This "should" do what you need to do, or at least get you close enough that you can figure the rest out on your own.  The four Chocobo Jobs don't need to be in concurrent order since the only things determined by that are Eggs and Mounting, the former of which wouldn't happen for your 4th Chocobo and the latter of which the ASM fixes.

[Timbo]

My patch is attempting to add new monsters to the game, so I've all ready relocated the ghosts to the Elidibs and Archaic/Ultima Demon slots.

I'm going to try to use UW Entries to link a different portrait to job 9B instead. I just hope it works like a special monster job.

EDIT:
I'm pretty it works, but just in case it does not I better ask. One of my patches goals is to expand monsters moving ghosts and skeletons out of the base breeding set and into the special monster realm and moving other critters into their space. Skeletons spriteins are basically human sprites minus a few animations. So, using a human job slot should be okay right?

EDIT:
By the way, I almost forgot. Thanks for the help.

Condensed by Elric

[3lric]

Jack of all Trades, you've been here long enough to know we have an Edit button,
bumping threads by double or triple posting is not allowed.

[Myrmidon]

woot! I'm useful!

3D: Knight (Undead) - 9B: Sword Skill
3F: Archer (Undead) - 9C: Charge
42: Wizard (Undead) - 9D: Black Magic
44: Time Mage (Undead) - 9E: Time Magic
46: Oracle (Undead) - 9F: Yin-Yang Magic
47: Summoner (Undead) - A0: Summon

all of these humans are coded as special monsters - no Job Wheel access, and can't change equipment/skills.

[Timbo]

I'd like to add that Using them for RAD jobs causes big time glitches too.