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Post by: Zozma on October 27, 2009, 04:45:43 am
Okay,

Would someone of decent skill level be interested in doing a head transfer for me? Attaching Lede's head or the dancer head and hair, to Agrias' body.

why don't i do it? i rarely have any time to devote to spriting anymore..
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 27, 2009, 06:38:17 am
Oh sure Sir Zozma.
Let's see what I can do.
I'll try my best. I know you can really finish this quick.
We'll help, just take care of other things. :)
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Post by: Zozma on October 27, 2009, 11:20:24 pm
thanks ^^

The palette should use Lede's dress color for the Agrias uniform.
(why do i want a Holy Knight Lede? ) youll see i guess
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 28, 2009, 09:41:08 am
Sure. I have finished the sprite.
I just have to change the palette. :)

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Here's the complete sprite. Edit it if you want to.
This is your request, after all, Sir Zozma.
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Post by: Zozma on October 28, 2009, 11:26:39 pm
wow that turned out better than i expected, she looks good as a holy knight! lol

thanks so much! looks great
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 29, 2009, 01:53:23 am
Yeah she looks great. :)

Here's an update with the palette.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 29, 2009, 04:15:39 am
Yeah, she looks great. Does she changed job in Remix? ^^
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Post by: Zozma on October 29, 2009, 04:29:48 am
yeah actually the palette does look better this way.

2 things i would change, i actually think its better to keep the long part of her hair all the way to the back. and the other thing, her head on the main forward diagonal frame (stopped), i think you should be able to see all of her shoulder armor, none covered by hair.

Other than that it looks perfect! and you should submit it to the site submission page.

and yes, I suppose you could say she "changes jobs" but the reality of my plans for her are a plot organized by Agrias to assassinate Delita. She will basically take Balmafula's story spot, hired by the church to spy on Delita and later bought out by Agrais who will take him down.

(Delita never encounters Lede or Celia in the game, therefore he is not aware of what she is capable of.)
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Post by: Aquablack on October 29, 2009, 04:39:40 am
Delita's not the only one plotting eh?  I like your plans, I was wondering what was gonna happen there since Balmafula joins your party, right?
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Post by: Zozma on October 29, 2009, 04:43:22 am
yes, balmafula loses her place in the story after the time that orlandu normally joins up (if you recall balmafula, olan, and orlandu are all in that grainery thingy hiding orlandu). instead of orlandu, she joins there along with olan

I might make one of the story battles include her as a guest like perhaps the church scene where you have to kill zalmo.

(hmmm, i wonder if she would look good with shoulder length hair in the back....)
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 29, 2009, 04:45:11 am
Ah, I see. Interesting Sir Zozma ^^
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Post by: Aquablack on October 29, 2009, 04:48:34 am
Cool, the recruitable roster of special characters can always use some more spell casters in my opinion.
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Post by: Zozma on October 29, 2009, 04:51:16 am
lol yeah
you really get plenty of spell casters in my patch for sure
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Post by: Zozma on October 29, 2009, 05:11:58 am
okay, great work

Now for a little customization

what do you think of this haircut?
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Post by: Aquablack on October 29, 2009, 05:18:53 am
Hmm, the haircut looks pretty good, though the uncovered shoulder seems a bit flat for some reason.
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Post by: Zozma on October 29, 2009, 05:21:42 am
i would imagine, i only filled it in
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 29, 2009, 05:23:46 am
That haircut is great ^^
And yes, her shoulder, though perhaps its because of only two colours for her cloth, as you can see from Agrias originally.
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Post by: Zozma on October 29, 2009, 05:26:33 am
the main reason i though of cutting the hair tho, somehow, the long hair overlapping the front (when it's lede) looks odd. even if she kept the long hair i think it needs to go behind the shoulder.

but anyway, a girl with this haircut might be neat
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Post by: Aquablack on October 29, 2009, 05:29:39 am
Yeah, the hair over the shoulder doesn't reflect the sprite at all.  I think the portrait should look fine with long hair going down the back, your redone Agrias portrait looks fine that way.

Edit: I agree, I'd like to see a female character with that cut, seems more assassin like than long hair to me anyway.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 29, 2009, 05:36:04 am
Yeah, long hair to the back should be good. And I agree with Aqua, I think short hair may look better for assassin ^^
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Post by: Zozma on October 29, 2009, 05:36:22 am
i tested the sprite and its put together pretty well, the only thing is with the attacking animations the long hair doesn't connect properly to her head

(it might be easier to fix giving her the haircut too..)
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Post by: Aquablack on October 29, 2009, 05:41:02 am
I'd go ahead and give her the haircut then, I think it could help differentiate her from her assassin costume.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 29, 2009, 05:43:15 am
Yeah, try haircut. See if it looks better compared with the original.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 29, 2009, 08:10:38 am
Quote2 things i would change, i actually think its better to keep the long part of her hair all the way to the back. and the other thing, her head on the main forward diagonal frame (stopped), i think you should be able to see all of her shoulder armor, none covered by hair.

Hmm.. the 2nd one is easy to do. I'll change that.


Quotei tested the sprite and its put together pretty well, the only thing is with the attacking animations the long hair doesn't connect properly to her head

Expecting this. Lede is a type 2 sprite, and agrias is a type 1. I haven't fully know what's the differences between types, and I only
get to use (most of the time) type 1 sprites. I think I have to test it too.


@plans
Interesting!
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Post by: Orlandu on October 29, 2009, 01:50:55 pm
i think... her neck a little too long, don't you think so too? maybe her shoulders are too steep or what.. just my 2 cents.
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Post by: Aquablack on October 29, 2009, 02:07:49 pm
Its probably the lack of hair on the shoulders making her neck seem so narrow, since it covers them in the original portrait.

Necks in Tactics seem really long overall anyway, just look at Ramza's Ch 1 portrait.
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Post by: Orlandu on October 29, 2009, 02:31:25 pm
Quote from: "Aquablack"Its probably the lack of hair on the shoulders making her neck seem so narrow, since it covers them in the original portrait.

Necks in Tactics seem really long overall anyway, just look at Ramza's Ch 1 portrait.

try comparing her with your avatar  :more:  :more:
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 29, 2009, 06:57:25 pm
Okay. Here it is.
Neck isn't long, it's the outfit.

Already edited the portrait.
This is almost done.
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Post by: Zozma on October 29, 2009, 08:18:21 pm
much better, it definitely looks better behind
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Post by: Zozma on October 29, 2009, 10:24:18 pm
Mike you should submit this sprite at 98% completion

(the bugs with the attacking animations hair connection to the head is the only thing not done)

another sprite added to the main page :D
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 29, 2009, 10:59:10 pm
The attacking animations are fixed and done, Zozma. :P
Okay, sure, I'll submit it once I have the urge to do so.
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Post by: Zozma on October 29, 2009, 11:12:39 pm
i can submit it for ya if u want to. it usually takes about 3 or 4 submissions before he updates the page
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 29, 2009, 11:34:05 pm
Sure Sir Zozma thanks! I'll be out for atleast 3 days, so that will help. :)
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 30, 2009, 02:04:13 am
Yes, much better Mike ^^
Well done and great job ^^
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 30, 2009, 07:19:03 am
Wait, there's a problem with the lowest left face animation.
I'll have to fix it first.

I'll just be the one to submit it sir Zozma. :)
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Post by: mav on October 30, 2009, 08:26:14 am
Very nice. The sprite looks solid and the portrait looks perfect. This definitely deserves to be submitted--I can foresee many people using it in their patches.
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Post by: Kagebunji on November 01, 2009, 12:35:52 pm
This is a very good sprite, great job.

And Zozma, are you in need for some other sprites??
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Post by: Zozma on November 01, 2009, 03:46:12 pm
well, i need a sprite of Agrias dressed as a princess. but she doesn't have to have attacking animations
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Post by: Kagebunji on November 02, 2009, 08:57:57 am
Only head swap will do? I can work on it.
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Post by: Kagebunji on November 02, 2009, 09:27:54 am
I tried to add Agrias Redone head instead of normal Agrias, does it look better?

(http://i38.tinypic.com/2ighso7.png)
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Post by: LastingDawn on November 02, 2009, 04:26:49 pm
Hmm, it does look much more... Princessy, in a way.
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 02, 2009, 04:50:06 pm
Maybe a pallete change for Agrias, she still looks a bit like Ovelia.
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Post by: mav on November 02, 2009, 05:12:39 pm
Obviously it doesn't look exactly like Agrias (thanks to that brilliant new hairstyle), but I suggest using Agrias's blue shades for the cape/shawl thing. New hairstyle, skin, and palette will get the job done, so good luck man.
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Post by: Zozma on November 02, 2009, 11:19:49 pm
well the only thing is, i think something that says AGRIAS is lost when you change her frontal hair...

I was thinking more along the lines of this...
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Post by: Cheetah on November 02, 2009, 11:38:11 pm
I don't know how subtle you want it to be Zozma, but hardly anyone is going to notice those changes
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Post by: Zozma on November 03, 2009, 12:16:14 am
the only thing i think is really off is the front

without the Agrias body, its not much like agrias...

im referring to the agrias redone head..
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 03, 2009, 12:23:37 am
Yeah, hard to notice. if you look it just a glimpse, no difference but if you look at it closer, you'll notice her front hair changed to Agrias's.
If changing her back hair too? Will it work?
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Post by: Zozma on November 03, 2009, 01:10:33 am
its not even really so necessary to use ovelia's dress, i could simply use a white version of agrias knight uniform but would like a more "made up" portrait, like some pearls in her hair or something
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 03, 2009, 01:23:40 am
Hmm...yeah, perhaps. Though have to give her uniform abit princess look. Hmm...
And yes, her portrait definitely needs remake ^^
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Post by: Kagebunji on November 03, 2009, 09:16:06 am
I will do palette later, no worries I wanted to do it from begining but I wanted to show my idea. IMO Agrias Redone head looks good, very princess-like as LD said, and everyone will see portrait on wich there will be Agrias face, and as storyline progres, gamers will know that Agrias is now a princess. I really think there is no problem with this head.
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Post by: GeneralStrife on November 27, 2009, 11:41:36 pm
I don't know if this is appropriate, but i kinda redid your lede in honor of the redid agrias sprite. same concept.

This is my first attempt at changing a sprite. i tested it fully

EDIT: Fixed the singing frame...but does it matter since shes a girl?
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Post by: Kagebunji on November 28, 2009, 04:40:54 am
You missed one singing frame.
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Post by: Zozma on November 28, 2009, 07:21:43 pm
It would matter if she had the "steal heart" skill

also the portrait, the long hair should fall behind her shoulder as it somehow looks odd going straint down like that since its coming from the back of her head as is
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Post by: GeneralStrife on November 28, 2009, 09:01:22 pm
Hmm..i forgot about steal heart....but i dont know..ive never messed with portraits beyond color...i guess it wouldnt be too hard.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on November 30, 2009, 06:11:46 am
What did you change there, Gen.Strife? The portrait?
The latest version was already good, imo. (on the 2nd page)
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Post by: Kagebunji on November 30, 2009, 09:01:24 am
He changed breastplate.
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Post by: GeneralStrife on August 22, 2010, 07:04:35 pm
Quote from: "GeneralStrife"I don't know if this is appropriate, but i kinda redid your lede in honor of the redid agrias sprite. same concept.

This is my first attempt at changing a sprite. i tested it fully

EDIT: Fixed the singing frame...but does it matter since shes a girl?
hehehe i remember when i did this, i would submit it but i didnt do much and i dont know if mike is around anymore or if he would let me since he never submitted it