Razele's ASM Hacks

[Kokojo]

Razele is not here anymore ;.;

[Vanya]

Not to mention that it would be a lot of work to add even basic ASM stuff to the patcher, and I'm pretty sure melonhead isn't gonna do that.

[Atma]

yeah, i figured it was asking a lot.  i'm not sure of what kind of skill and talent everyone here has.  it's just... if there were a way to make r/s/m abilities easier to edit for less skilled people or just more user friendly, then we wouldn't have to keep relying on Razele's skillz.  it just seems like it's more worth coding an editor than individually doing custom codes for every person who wants to do something a little bit different.  i'm not being demanding, i'm in no position to ask or tell anyone to do all this work, it just seems more logical to me.  

[SilvasRuin]

That's essentially the same amount of work that is already done if not even WORSE.  Your solution is not a solution.

[formerdeathcorps]

Plus, 457 comes with a tool for you to make your own ASM hacks.  Not only that, some of the pre-made hacks in 457 can be readily customized, even if you don't know much ASM (all you need is a hex editor to compare to the original to figure out what certain numbers do).

[Atma]

@SilvasRuin
I do realize a lot of work has already been done, this topic alone is only coming up on 2 months and it has 40 pages now!  the reason i say it may be the logical way is if this much work has been done withing this short amount of time alone, think of how much more it would be for a few knowledgeable people to keep doing things the way it's been, by request.

...BUT...

since formerdeathcorps mentioned, a lot of the hacks can be edited, i see that it's not worth doing what i'm suggesting.  i'm still getting my head around all this stuff and seeing what's what.  now i'm gonna look into editing the hacks that have already been made.  wanna make a few tweaks  

[Kokojo]

Jan 01, 2009

That's one year, sir.

But yeah. Razele was doing amazing an amazing job...then he vanished.

[Atma]

HAHAHA, o m g... i can't believe how dumb i am.  Jan. '09

[Pickle Girl Fanboy]

Plus, 457 comes with a tool for you to make your own ASM hacks.

?????
Tell me more.

[formerdeathcorps]

All you need to do is edit the existing XML files to add in whatever personal ASM hacks you made.

[Vanya]

You just have to figure out the details of the hack yourself.

[Skip Sandwich]

quick question about the oil weak to fire, float weak to wind hack, does the float weak to wind bit only affect the status effect float, or the movement ability as well? has anyone tested this?

[Vanya]

The status effect as far as i know.

[formerdeathcorps]

Just tested air render (wave fist flagged as air elemental).  Dealt half damage to a steel hawk (halve wind), so I know it's elemental.  However, regardless of whether a unit has float from the movement ability or the TM spell, the double damage is not applied.  Did he accidentally bundle the status hack with oil so that float only doubles damage when a unit has oil and float?

[Vanya]

It's possible. It's easy to test, though.

[formerdeathcorps]

Just tested this.  That wasn't the case either.  The float hack just doesn't work and likely wasn't included.  Personally, I'd rather see undead = weak to holy instead of float = weak to wind.

[Vanya]

Are you applying it via the ASM patcher thingy or are you doing it through straight hex editing?

[formerdeathcorps]

Application via orgASM.  The oil part of the hack works fine, though.

[Vanya]

Try verifying that the 2nd part applied correctly with a hex editor just in case.

[Atma]

hmm, i've tried using the oil status effect, but i don't think it's making the unit weak vs fire.  was the issue with float/wind the same as oil/fire?  as in did they both not work?