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A quick poll...

Started by Vanya, December 10, 2008, 06:49:24 pm

What should I do to make portraits and sprites match better?

Make portraits match sprites' colors.
3 (30%)
Make sprites match portraits' colors.
2 (20%)
I'm too lazy to give an opinion.
5 (50%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: December 15, 2008, 06:49:24 pm

Vanya

December 10, 2008, 06:49:24 pm Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Vanya
You guys ever notice how the portraits' colors almost never match the colors used in their sprites?

I'm going to fix that for my hack. However, how should I go about it?
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Dormin Jake

December 10, 2008, 07:16:34 pm #1 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Dormin Jake
It seems to me like portrait colors are a little more washed out and sprite colors are more vibrant, does this sound more or less right?

If so, I'd personally rather have the sprites better match the colors of the portraits, as I think portrait colors are generally a little more realistic.  Then again, it's often difficult to tell between the palettes of certain units, and I think the Hokuten in particular would be even less distinct from Ramza's little guerrilla army, so do what you think would be best.
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Cheetah

December 10, 2008, 07:26:18 pm #2 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Cheetah
Oh about adding an option to leave it as is? I feel like this design choice was done for a reason.
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Jacob31593

December 10, 2008, 07:29:54 pm #3 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Jacob31593
the portraits are bigger allowing for a more accurate level of detail and shading that you cant really do to a sprite because its so tiny, i'de just leave it as it is

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Vanya

December 10, 2008, 10:26:31 pm #4 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Vanya
Often the colors are completely different. Using similar shades in both is easy and usually looks better.

For example, Agrias is blonde in her portrait, but her sprite is a red-head.
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Suih

December 10, 2008, 10:48:54 pm #5 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Suih
Honestly her sprite is pretty blonde to me.

Zozma

December 11, 2008, 01:49:18 am #6 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Zozma
i donno, except for the obviously wrong color with Aliste

most sprites/portrait combo's look fine

the portraits all fit a washed out scheme but its still obvious that they belong to the sprites they represent... if u had another option id say dont change
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Jacob31593

December 11, 2008, 05:18:44 am #7 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Jacob31593
Quote from: "Suih"Honestly her sprite is pretty blonde to me.

Vanya

December 11, 2008, 10:56:05 am #8 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Vanya
Put her next to Weigraf, Algus, Mutadio, or even Dycedarg and then tell me she doesn't look at least strawberry blonde. And her portrait has waaay lighter hair.
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Suih

December 11, 2008, 03:12:02 pm #9 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Suih
Quote from: "Vanya"Put her next to Weigraf, Algus, Mutadio, or even Dycedarg and then tell me she doesn't look at least strawberry blonde. And her portrait has waaay lighter hair.
Yeah, she is strawberry blonde. But that's blonde, not red. Nice work contradicting yourself. :P

Vanya

December 11, 2008, 04:40:24 pm #10 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Vanya
Strawberry blonde =/= blonde.
'Strawbery blonde' is between 'blonde' and 'red', which is why it's called 'strawberry blonde' and not 'blond'.


If you want to get precise, Agrias' portrait has light blonde hair and her sprite has light orange hair like a real carrot-top.
Islude's portrait has grey-brown hair and his sprite has brown hair.
All of Delita's portraits have dark brown hair, but his sprites all have reddish-brown hair.

The point is that the color in the portraits do not match the sprites. If the differences were uniform from character to character I wouldn't mind and say they represent paintings. However, they aren't even close to uniform. Most characters portraits have completely different shades of color that aren't even close to present in the sprite and vice versa. Like most games the character designer and the sprite artist(s) are not the same person and it is plainly obvious here as it was in most earlier Final Fantasies. I've always hated that. This case is fairly easy to fix though.

 -_-
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Cheetah

December 11, 2008, 08:19:49 pm #11 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Cheetah
Well if you really want to do it I would recommend having the sprites changed to match the portraits.

And Vanya is right about Agrias' hair, it has an odd red tinge for the sprite.
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Vanya

December 12, 2008, 01:02:55 pm #12 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Vanya
The female Knights are even funkier. ^_^
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