Blue Mage Job Thread

[DarthPaul]

I never said it was more tactical than the Mercs setup just that as a concept it is a strategical move to breed what you need to get the moves you need for the blue mage.  Though Mercs is gonna make you work for the moves you learn which of course gives it the edge in awesomeness over a Blue Mage in vanilla or a standard patch.

[kinneas123]

I say give Calm Spirit or Clam Spirit or whatever it's called, in the vein of Big Guard and the like.  Perhaps change it so it adds protect and shell and slap a steep mp cost/charge time on it.

EDIT: Oh wait, you're doing Calm spirit.  Nvm.

[Suih]

hmmm

I'm seeing alot of damage skills

Yeah, we need a lot more support skills.

[LastingDawn]

Then what might you suggest Suih?

[DarthPaul]

Do you have eye gouge in there LD?

[LastingDawn]

If it's 1.3's Eye Gouge, I see no reason why not! Good idea, DarthPaul.

[Archael]

good skill

[Shade]

Yes its because it owned Agrias.
Malbaro breath! ( cant remember true name of it.)

[DarthPaul]

Just thought it was a great support skill.

[The Damned]

Yes its because it owned Agrias.
Malbaro breath! ( cant remember true name of it.)

Bad Bracelet/Bad Breath and I would say no to this, even though I have on my Blue Mage (but only because I've nerfed the living hell out of it and didn't really have any other non-superfluous options).

I don't really see people why people keep saying that we Blue Mages need Defensive/Support options oh so badly when they historically have had maybe 3 max even when they had more than 16 skill slots.

Outside of maybe having a bit more status (like Eye Gouge for Goblin Punch) and maybe taking Kinneas suggestion of a Big Guard/Mighty Guard approach with Woodwomen, I don't really see the need to have anything supportive besides Choco Cure and something from a Woodwoman.

[DarthPaul]

Yes but having a ton of attack options really gets redundant especially when there are so many support options to choose from.

[The Damned]

Not if all of the said attack options do different things, but we'll just have to agree to disagree.

(Besides, there's not that many monster support abilities from vanilla. There's probably not even a double digit number. There's Choco Cure [which we already have], Choco Esuna, the three crappy non-Leaf Dance spirits that Woodwomen have [and I guess Spirit of Life, which restored HP in vanilla...?], Gather Power [which is broken], and, what, Please freaking Eat?

That's not very many, especially when half of them are shitty.)

[DarthPaul]

Lol then we'll have to make some new ones.

[The Damned]

Looking at that list, I surprisingly forgot Oink, which is actually pretty damned good (and debatably broken), and Marlboro's Lick.

I seriously think that's it though.

[Setzer]

Well..
Since in Mercenaries we cant invite monster, get Oink would be next to impossible.

[boomkick]

Like said before, i dont believe that there are many healing abilities except for those of the trents.

[Setzer]

Traditionally, Blue Magic just have 1 Healing Ability, White Wind (Choco Cure), and 1 Buffing Ability, Big Guard (I Dont Know, Maybe one of the Spirits).

And I agree, there are a lot of Damage Abilities there. I would take out Cat Kick, Wave Around, Triple Attack and Spark. They dont even seems like Magic.
I think Bad Breath, Goblin Punch, Death Sentence and Blaster would be better choices, since some of them are Blue Magic in other FFs and will make the Blue Mage versatile, as he is in other FFs.

[Shade]

I planned to make patch with blue mage and first thing that I thinked was elements. You want to have them all have them unique way of using each of them. +those skill that setzer said

[LastingDawn]

Goblin Punch is an over used formula by this point, It's just a Shock-esque formula. Cat Kick is now just like it is in 1.3 which is a spell interrupter. Triple Attack is unique that it is a physical attack which can hit like a breath attack, therefore basically a two range physical attack with only a "Saber".

Death Sentence is a broken ability in FFT since the enemy ignores the afflicted from thereon out. I have one plan for it, but it will be unique to that class and thiatclass only.


I can't deny Blaster, good idea. I think I'll replace Wave Around with it.

[Archael]

Cat Kick.... very strong